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Anonymous No. 16494691

New Glenn - Edition
Prev >>16492592

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Anonymous No. 16494696

proof that being a space youtuber has no value unless its for spacex

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Anonymous No. 16494697

1st for wood spacecrafts.

Anonymous No. 16494701

>>16494696
more like phillip slop haha

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Anonymous No. 16494704

>>16494696
If they erected 1/5th of a SRB half as often as SpaceX flings a flaming steel garbage can into the pacific then maybe people would pay attention
Side note, arguing with autistic oldspace boomers in his comments is very fun (<--- you can do this too)

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Anonymous No. 16494705

>>16494691
I am forgotten

Anonymous No. 16494708

>>16494705
why is it silver? are they abandoning carbon composites and switching to steel? if so its so over for neutron kek.

Anonymous No. 16494709

>>16494708
Nah lol that was the mk1 design. It was originally metal.

Anonymous No. 16494710

>>16494702
wqhy does it look so real? whichever cg artist made this is goated.

Anonymous No. 16494711

why does the orion capsule need a heat shield at all anyways

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Anonymous No. 16494715

>>16494711
Most scientists agree that astronauts should be reusable.

Anonymous No. 16494718

Throw Muskrats in the LEO brig

Anonymous No. 16494719

>>16494713
humiliation ritual

Anonymous No. 16494721

Simply alter the properties of the vacuum around your ship to increase the speed of light, that way you're never trying to exceed it

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Anonymous No. 16494725

I hate Elon so much

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Anonymous No. 16494726

>>16494710
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/gR9QNQ

Anonymous No. 16494727

>>16494726
incredible stuff

Anonymous No. 16494728

>>16494725
body shaming is bad.

Anonymous No. 16494730

>>16494715
but you would have to fly them at least 10 times to make economic sense, though

Anonymous No. 16494733

>>16494721
based false-vacuum drive CHAD

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Anonymous No. 16494738

Zhuque-2E Y1 in about 50 mintes

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Anonymous No. 16494741

>>16494726

Anonymous No. 16494743

>>16494696
>>16494713
Starship/Orion is such an absurd arrangement it hurts my brain.

Anonymous No. 16494744

>>16494741
>American astronaut height-mogging the chinaman
lololol

Anonymous No. 16494745

>>16494741
oh right that's a soviet. I'm tired.

Anonymous No. 16494746

>>16494725
>>16494728
Leftists invented "body-shaming is bad" so they could monopolize it and then use it on people they hate.

Anonymous No. 16494751

>>16494743
Artemis is proof that the product of an organization always looks like its org chart.

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>>16494725

Anonymous No. 16494760

ZQ-2E Y1 launch success

Anonymous No. 16494765

>>16494760
The payloads are Guāng chuán 01&02

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Anonymous No. 16494773

https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1861597277141500317
>We got another ZQ-2E at next month.

Anonymous No. 16494776

Japan mogged

Anonymous No. 16494777

>>16494771
>>16494773
The Chinese are extremely strong and confident.

Anonymous No. 16494781

>>16494760
>>16494771
>>16494773
why should i care about this

Anonymous No. 16494782

>>16494773
holy crap. this better be a rainy day or fog

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Anonymous No. 16494788

>>16494773
"Land Your Dream In Space"

I'm always impressed by western cultural dominance.
Like, could you imagine an american rocket, launching in america, for american customers, plastered with chinese characters?
Insane.

Anonymous No. 16494791

>>16494777
China's trying really hard but I can't escape the feeling they're spinning their wheels. 50% of their launches are still old style hypergolics, and the rest are split pretty evenly between new cryogenics and solid fuel designs. The LM-5/6/7 were supposed to replace the 2/3/4s but they've been flying for a decade and they can't seem to compete on cost or cadence. Now they've got dozen new rockets in development all competing for the same spot in the launch market.

Anonymous No. 16494794

>>16494782
kek
I'll give you a hint, it rhymes with fog...

Anonymous No. 16494795

>>16494782
never been to China anon? lol
LA used to be like that before emissions standard were a thing

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Anonymous No. 16494796

>>16494786
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1861601051599884612
https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:5105271127605290?from=old_pc_videoshow

Video

>all competing for the same spot in the launch market.
It is a Starlink sized spot, however.

Anonymous No. 16494797

>>16494791
>all competing for the same spot in the launch market.
They're not actually competing

Anonymous No. 16494798

>>16494786
Remember that Zhuque-2 is the first methane-fueled rocket to reach orbit and deliver a payload. Starshipbros...

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>>16494796

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>>16494788
Their whole dress and fashion is European in origin, even their political leadership dress themselves in the way of white people. The cultural domination is so thorough most people never even stop to think about it.

>The suit's origins trace the simplified, sartorial standard established by the English king Charles II in the 17th century, following the example of his one-time host King Louis XIV's court at Versailles, who decreed that in the English Court men would wear a long coat, a waistcoat (then called a "petticoat"), a cravat (a precursor of the necktie), a wig, knee breeches (trousers), and a hat. The paintings of Jan Steen, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, and other painters of the Dutch Golden Era reveal that such an arrangement was already used in Holland, if not Western Europe as a whole.
>The current styles, founded in the Great Male Renunciation of the late 18th century, sharply changed the elaborately embroidered and jewelled formal clothing into the simpler clothing of the British Regency period, which gradually evolved to the stark formality of the Victorian era. In the late 19th century, it was in the search for more comfort that the loosening of rules gave rise to the modern lounge suit.

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Anonymous No. 16494807

>>16494798
*technically* the only operational Methane fuelled launcher right now

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>>16494807
not so fast

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Anonymous No. 16494812

>>16494807
starship took a plushie payload to a 50km x ~200km orbit on flight 6
try again bugman

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Anonymous No. 16494815

Succesful S2 restart and deorbit burn.
T0 at 10:00:03.304 UTC+8
Satellites are "LEO constellation technological demonstrators"

>>16494812
>didn't separate
ohnonono

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Anonymous No. 16494818

>>16494815
chinese pebbles......

Anonymous No. 16494822

>>16494721
luminiferous aether is back in style

Anonymous No. 16494824

>>16494817
what fucked up lens is this

Anonymous No. 16494827

>>16494809
won't launch this year
guaranteed

Anonymous No. 16494828

As far as I can tell, upcoming Chinese megaconstellation launches :

11/30 CZ12 Guowang batch 1 (according to an announcement back in august)
12/02 C26A Qianfan batch 3
12/15 CZ5B Guowang batch 2 (polar)
12/2nd half CZ8 Qianfan batch 4

Anonymous No. 16494830

>>16494828
astroonomers: "we dont have a problem with these"

Anonymous No. 16494832

>>16494812
it was 150km x 5 km after the relight actually

Anonymous No. 16494838

>>16494794
>>16494795
the road is wet you retards

Anonymous No. 16494839

>>16494781
this is almost certainly going to become the Chinese Falcon 9

Anonymous No. 16494840

>>16494839
>15 year old technology
we sleep

Anonymous No. 16494841

>>16494840
but it's methane

Anonymous No. 16494846

explain what's different between rockets now and rockets in the 60s?
the closest we ever got to an SSTO was the Atlas missile and the most efficient main engine ever built was the RS-25 shortly after the moon landings.

Anonymous No. 16494847

>>16494846
RS-25 is a 1970s hangar queen exactly like the F-14 Tomcat's engines. Raptor is an insane upgrade in mdot and thrust/area for only about 15% less Isp which is why Starship doesn't need SRBs.

Anonymous No. 16494848

>>16494830
Do astronomers and the media ever realize that getting rid of Starlink also means hindering Ukraine and their war efforts? Are they unironically in favor of that? Don't wanna get political, just pointing out that you can't nationalize Starlink to aid Ukraine, and at the same time have a night sky clear of any satellite so that astrooonomers can take pretty pictures, it's contradictory.

Anonymous No. 16494851

cut my penus off
this is my last resort

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Anonymous No. 16494858

>>16494846
SSTOs are retarded in a world where you can build reusable TSTOs

Anonymous No. 16494860

>>16494701
more like philip sls

Anonymous No. 16494863

>>16494725
for you this is the bad timeline

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Anonymous No. 16494864

>no visual of landing

Anonymous No. 16494865

Another successful Starlink launch, so boring it went unnoticed.

Anonymous No. 16494868

>>16494854
you have anal autism

Anonymous No. 16494869

>>16494696
Sloss doesn't exactly advertise himself, it it wasn't for his presence on that Artemis discord I wouldn't even know about his channel (which is actually pretty good for keeping tabs on the Artemis program).

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Anonymous No. 16494870

>>16494868
How could you tell?

Anonymous No. 16494873

>>16494854
Kute

Anonymous No. 16494874

>>16494854
is she holding a marshmallow and starship torch?? kawaiiiiiii

Anonymous No. 16494875

>>16494854
thank you, anon

Anonymous No. 16494877

Chima is freaking incredible

Anonymous No. 16494878

>>16494877
who's Chima?

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Anonymous No. 16494879

>>16494878
You know what I meant

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16494880

>>16494879
你是什么意思?麻烦你讲人话。

Anonymous No. 16494881

>>16494878
It's a LEGO thing

Anonymous No. 16494882

>>16494879
but i don't tho

Anonymous No. 16494883

>>16494880
>chink chonk
not spaceflight

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16494885

>>16494883
neither is "chima" whatever the fuck that is

Anonymous No. 16494886

>>16494885
wtf the fuck is wrong with you? retard

Anonymous No. 16494888

>>16494877
true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Eewd8TEWE
>>16494878
a vtuber

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Anonymous No. 16494890

https://x.com/sbarky38/status/1861583637679882472
Important post in the history of rocket girls

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how far we've come

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>>16494697
What is the next novel spacecraft material?

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Anonymous No. 16494900

Fuck the fog

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Anonymous No. 16494902

>>16494697
comfy 90s rockets

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Anonymous No. 16494906

>>16494890
GO BACK TO BLUESKY SBARKY AND NOW I KNOW YOURE THE SPESS POSTER TOO

Anonymous No. 16494907

>>16494906
schizo!

Anonymous No. 16494908

>>16494854
I wish I could draw

Anonymous No. 16494909

Spessposter and clearfag are the same person btw (sbarky)

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Anonymous No. 16494910

>>16494904
>He took us to the Moon is what he did. He was a brilliant engineer. And in this house, von Braun is a hero. End of story!

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Anonymous No. 16494911

>>16494909
what is spess

Anonymous No. 16494913

>>16494897
looks like steel will remain the champion for a long time

Anonymous No. 16494914

>>16494909
all me btw

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Anonymous No. 16494919

>>16494909
Clear is my oshi, but I don't post her, thats someone else.

spehs

Anonymous No. 16494920

>>16494890
Anime was a mistake

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>>16494895
I still think about how much of a non-event flight 6 felt like. Like it's cool, but I was mostly interested in how the ship will do during entry heating. Remarkable how fast it started seeming ordinary and unexciting that it's coming down from space and doing a crazy flip. I suppose flight 8 will be the next special one with the potential tower catch

Anonymous No. 16494925

>>16494897
Obviously it will be cast iron. It will further Musk's vision of minimizing production time by casting the entire fuel tanks and the plumping in them all in one go. Once they reach the larger diameter in future versions the added mass of the cast iron wouldn't matter.

Anonymous No. 16494927

>>16494919
>the iss is the size of a building in an oneill cylinder
we have a long way to go

Anonymous No. 16494928

>>16494906
>a bunch of twitter artists delete their accounts and move to Bluesky thinking they can't opt out of AI training
>they fell for a lie and destroyed all their efforts building a following for nothing

The cherry on top, besides the fact that Bluesky has no traffic, is that as soon as lefties designated it their new safe space it was flooded with reports of CP.

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Anonymous No. 16494930

>accidentally looked at the sci catalog

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Anonymous No. 16494935

>>16494927
We've gained more ground in the last 2 years of starship, fuck, the last 2 months of OFT 5 and 6 than the last 20 years.

Anonymous No. 16494940

>>16494935
what happens if one of those just stops spinning, wouldnt everything be fucked?

Anonymous No. 16494942

>>16494900
They were testing ship FTS and picked a foggy day on purpose

Anonymous No. 16494944

>>16494940
>what even is conservation of angular momentum?

Anonymous No. 16494945

>>16494940
Please describe a scenario in which the whole thing "just stops spinning"

Anonymous No. 16494946

>>16494945
>>16494944

uhhhh idk... i didnt really think the post through. i was like huh if the engines making it spin in space stopped that would be really bad but then remembered it would keep spinning and they wouldnt run unless they needed to accelerate it anyways... haha

Anonymous No. 16494949

>>16494946
Kindly graduate high school before continuing to post

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Anonymous No. 16494950

>>16494949
im 24 lmao

Anonymous No. 16494951

>>16494921
flight 7 will be the make or break for heatshield doomerism. If the flaps still have issues with burn through it's over

Anonymous No. 16494959

>>16494950
My condolences

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>>16494935
Those mountains will not look natural, only an artist can help guide the soulless engineers. Otherwise they will look like this.

Anonymous No. 16494967

>>16494944
WOT EEF UR BLOOD SUDDENLY TURNS INTO CUM????

Anonymous No. 16494968

>>16494951
Your skin contains much more melanin than normal people have

Anonymous No. 16494970

>>16494967
sorry meant for >>16494940

Anonymous No. 16494976

Nothing is happening

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>>16494967
I'll bleed cum and cum blood.

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>>16494946

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Anonymous No. 16495004

> imagine the task of having to monitor liquid hydrogen as it flows through a few miles of pipeline—which is what NASA had to do in preparation for every Shuttle launch, when hundreds of thousands of gallons were transferred from a holding tank to the launch pad for fueling. In the Apollo days, detecting a flame from one of those leaks was accomplished by using the “broom” method, whereby workers would take a broom and walk around with the head stretched out in front of them. If the head began to burn, there was a leak.

Anonymous No. 16495005

>>16495004
I hate hydrogen so much its unreal

Anonymous No. 16495006

>>16494858
Once again
"A marginal reusable SSTO is a great reusable TSTO’s upper stage."

Anonymous No. 16495007

isn't starship block 3 going to basically be a SSTO?

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Anonymous No. 16495010

AEIOU Yoneda was selected by JAXA for lunar astronaut operations
https://x.com/astroayu/status/1861621562547343844

Anonymous No. 16495011

>>16495010
old hag

Anonymous No. 16495012

>>16494807
Is Vulcan-Centaur not operational anymore or something

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>>16495005
yet hydrogen atoms are the commonest atoms in your body. curious....

Anonymous No. 16495014

>>16495004
the broom method was and still is used for finding steam leaks on ships

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>>16495014
how will this be done on Mars? no wood for brooms

Anonymous No. 16495019

>>16494751
It's just a typical NASA program, they decide on the vendors and steps and whatnot at the beginning
And never change a fucking thing over the next decade

Anonymous No. 16495022

>>16495012
Technically not certified for any of its near future payloads

Anonymous No. 16495024

real question what's the plan for base heating for a moon or mars base? Considering water would be a luxury so steam is kinda out.
Ammonia heat pumps look like a good option considering the wide temperature swings on Mars and ammonia's good properties in a wide variety of extreme conditions.

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>>16495004
>if the broom began to burn
>that means the H2 was already invisibly burning
hydrologgs is just not worth the Isp

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>>16495024
>Considering water would be a luxury so steam is kinda out
nigga what? no one is building a base where water is scarce

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Anonymous No. 16495029

>>16495026
True, but it is worth the heat capacity

Anonymous No. 16495030

>>16495028
ok get water on the moon wise guy
it's gonna be as close to 100% recycled as possible

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Anonymous No. 16495032

https://x.com/torybruno/status/1861735732798165356

bruno necroposting lol

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>>16495032

Anonymous No. 16495035

>>16495030
>Get water on the moon
Okay
>Polar Resources Ice Mining Experiment 1 (PRIME-1) is a robotic NASA experiment that is designed to search for water ice on the Moon at a permanently shadowed location near Shackleton Crater, close to the lunar south pole. The 36-kilogram (80 lb) PRIME-1 payload is scheduled for launch on a Falcon 9 in January 2025 as part of the Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) program on the Nova-C IM-2 mission.

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Anonymous No. 16495037

what even are half of these

Anonymous No. 16495042

>>16495030
>>16495035
Plus the new Chinese data that regolith is loaded with hydrogen from the solar wind, as well as oxygen in mineral form.

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>>16494691

Anonymous No. 16495045

>>16495032
>Elon tweeted in 2021
>Kuiper awarded in 2022
>Bragging about it in 2024
Lmao

Anonymous No. 16495049

>>16495010
cute!

Anonymous No. 16495052

>>16495032
Some prospective buyer must have brought up this old tweeter thread in the ULA aquisition sale meeting and triggered Tory

Anonymous No. 16495054

>>16495052
well it mentions the F35 so Tory or someone else could have just searched through Musks posts mentionin F35 and he was reading some quote tweet or something, who knows

Anonymous No. 16495056

>>16495032
lol the tweet is deleted now

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>>16494854
did you draw this? very cute. I was thinking of trying it myself
>>16494909
no I'm the clearfag and I'm not sbarky(I like xer art though)

Anonymous No. 16495072

>>16494725
they should call him a poopyhead and be done with it

Anonymous No. 16495073

>>16494909
sfg is like 3 people anyways, who cares

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Anonymous No. 16495074

SpaceX cheesecake when?

Anonymous No. 16495077

>>16495058
Jessie looks like a potato there. Why is dvach so obsessed with her?

Anonymous No. 16495078

>>16495077
>potato for scale

Anonymous No. 16495081

>>16495058
lmao are they going to have cowboy hats during Flight 7?
shitposting IRL during every test launch from now on

Anonymous No. 16495083

>>16495081
>clear with a cowboy(cowgirl??) outfit
HNGGGGG

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Anonymous No. 16495087

So get up, get, get, get down
NASA PPO is a joke in yo town

Anonymous No. 16495092

>>16495087
damn, urf is nasty

Anonymous No. 16495094

>>16495087
uhh yeah those are aliens and this is a cover story
RELEASE THE GENOME

Anonymous No. 16495095

>>16495087
very shamefur

Anonymous No. 16495099

>>16495074
I hate this casual sexism in oldspace stuff.

Anonymous No. 16495100

>>16495058
Why does Kate Tice look 2 to 3 points sexier on stream than she does off?

Anonymous No. 16495101

>>16495087
What if Urf life just exists everywhere?

Anonymous No. 16495104

>>16495087
AYYLMAOS CONFIRMED, MARS COLONIZATION CANCELLED, FELON TO PRISON, etc etc

Anonymous No. 16495105

>>16495087
Actual paper here: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/maps.14288

Anonymous No. 16495106

>>16495100
>anon learns about makeup and hairstyling

Anonymous No. 16495108

>>16494696
Just be a hot girl with millions of dollars! People don't want to hear about Space, they want to hear about your outfit and the food you ate that day.

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Anonymous No. 16495109

Soyuz roll out

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>>16495109

Anonymous No. 16495111

>>16495109
why does the train run under a tunnel?

Anonymous No. 16495113

>>16495105
>>16495087
Their argument is basically
- terrestrial bacteria form rods and filaments
- the size distribution is consistent with the size distribution of a single species population of bacteria
- they see evidence of growth in the sample
- if the sample had contained the bacteria the whole time, they should have seen more of them and they wouldn't have observed a growth (increasing organism count) and a death phase (decrease in organism count)

Anonymous No. 16495115

>>16494696
hearing about the (bureaucratic) minutiae of SLS and Artemis is boring
SLS is obsolete, expensive, never flies and should be cancelled

Anonymous No. 16495116

>>16495109
blizzard launches are kino

Anonymous No. 16495118

>>16494696
What must be wrong with this guy that he chooses to devote his life to reporting on this piece of garbage?

Anonymous No. 16495119

>>16495106
but the beaner doesnt look any better with all that makeup.

Anonymous No. 16495121

>>16495077
>Why is dvach so obsessed with her?
they see a woman there and they go like crazy

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>>16495032
>perhaps you missed the kuiper award?

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>>16495099
No you don't, nobody does you fibber.

Anonymous No. 16495126

>>16494708
>>16494709
Fyi: good carbon layups have better specific strength than aluminum (and a hell of a lot better than steel), but as a practical matter, it is much harder to have very thin carbon parts. It means that for a lot of applications, if you go with carbon, you end up being way overbuilt while if you had gone with aluminum you are closer to your target strength.

>t. compositesfag

Anonymous No. 16495127

>>16495032
he's a fucking snake, i tell you hwat

Anonymous No. 16495129

Completely reset my PC after 8 years, feels good

Anonymous No. 16495130

>>16495129
>8 years
holy shit anon

Anonymous No. 16495131

>>16495087
i want that fag who said every trip into and out of an airlock on mars for any reason would require 2+ hours of cleaning to apologise. Contamination is inevitable

Anonymous No. 16495132

>>16495087
That will literally be 10 billion dollars plus tip. Spacecraft sterilization is one big expensive scam.

Anonymous No. 16495133

>>16495129
that poor machine

Anonymous No. 16495135

>>16495130
Endless gb's of shit memes I saved for whatever reason. A lot of applications and shite too, my D drive had 300gb of stuff on it despite uninstalling every game and deleting everything I could think of. C drive was about 300gb/500 but that was mostly system and OS bloat.

It's a little smoother but 1070, I7700k, some MSI board and all I've replaced over the years was RAM, twice. AMD mongs seem to replace their PC's every two years, I love this PC. Spilt cola, cider and piss on it probably 10 times in total, still works a charm. Probably haven't dusted it often enough, maybe 3 or 4 times. It's pretty loud, I think it game me tinnitus but I'm used to it now.

Anonymous No. 16495139

>>16495135
Midway through summer I got a 10tb drive and a new CPU cooler, so my friend and I took my PC apart to give it a cleaning during their installation. After five minutes of trying to dust it gently we gave up and just brought it outside, a few minutes with the leaf blower and it was clean as brand new.
I don't know why I never did it before, it was so much easier and faster.

Anonymous No. 16495140

>>16495135
Nice build, I run the same problem with storage, I'm sure that at least 50% of everything in my PC is stuff that I gaslight myself into believing I'll read/post later
>1070 almost a decade old already
oh God

Anonymous No. 16495146

>>16495140
It is slowly getting caught out by newer and updated games. Probably functionally running medium settings on dayz and similar games. It's been absolutely brilliant. Looking at the equivalent todays card is so expensive, I can't actually afford one, would settle for a xx50 or xx60 whatever they're on now.

Just delete it and don't look back. I was really attached but I don't post much on 4chan these days and most images were just there, having to sift through for the ones I did use. I saved my giga basedjak folder though, that is dear to me.

>>16495139
It's only a few connection points anyway, they're robust. I was goiung to clean mine after spilling stuff but if it is working, I see no point.

Anonymous No. 16495149

>>16494904
armchair historian thumbnail looking ahhh

Anonymous No. 16495150

>>16495037
Ceres, Gravity, Hyperbola, Jeilong, Kinetica, and Kuaizhou are all solid fuel sino-minotaurs, but some of them have liquid fuel successors (mostly falcon 9 clones) coming as later iterations. Zhuque (currently ZQ-2) is the only one that's pulled off the transistion. Long March is the brand name Chinese rocket.

Anonymous No. 16495162

>>16494854
Exquisite work.

Anonymous No. 16495168

>>16495149
armchair historian asks underage girls for pics of their feet. hes been doing thatfor years. he is notorious for it and somehow its not a controversy.

Anonymous No. 16495172

>>16495168
source?

Anonymous No. 16495174

>>16495172
I made it up

Anonymous No. 16495177

>>16495174
damn :(

Anonymous No. 16495182

Spaceflight?

Anonymous No. 16495184

>>16495172
i knew him in highschool. he was a clown then and is a clown now.

Anonymous No. 16495187

>>16495168
lmao what is with /sfg/ and slandering youtubers baselessly, first Isaac Arthur now this guy

Anonymous No. 16495191

>>16495187
You're not going to like the rumour about Scott Manly then.... two words; child and rapist.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16495192

I heard anon sick cocks

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16495194

>>16495149
Nigger ass

Anonymous No. 16495202

>>16495194
>>16495184
>>16495177
>>16495174
>>16495172
>>16495168
>>16495149
fuck you

Anonymous No. 16495203

>>16495187
Trump won, we can just make up anything now and they slurp it up.

Anonymous No. 16495212

Anonymous 23 minutes ago No.16495182

Spaceflight?

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Anonymous No. 16495215

>New post notifications for SpaceX
>Falcon/starlink/shit

Anonymous No. 16495219

>New post from Elon Musk
>10 in the last minute
>politics
>politics
>politics
>emoji
>government
>emoji
>emoji
>government
>government
>emoji
>emoji politics

Anonymous No. 16495220

impressive that we've made reusable first stage flight to leo as routine as a commute to work

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Anonymous No. 16495222

>>16495220
all I can think about is how much sooner this level of reliable LEO cadence could've been established given the amount of time we've been doing spaceflight to LEO so its less impressive a bit

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Anonymous No. 16495224

>new post from Anonymous on /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
>chinkshit rocket

Anonymous No. 16495226

>>16495100
1. you're reacting to her vibrant and youthful energy which beams from every movement and glance. 2. Angles matter.

Anonymous No. 16495227

>>16495113
to be fair that does makes sense

Anonymous No. 16495228

>>16495100
the real Kate Tice is dead
you're seeing her hologram

Anonymous No. 16495229

>>16495139
people say to not use air compressors or vacuum cleaners but i do it regularly and everything is......

Anonymous No. 16495230

>>16495219
you forgot xAI starting a games studio

Anonymous No. 16495232

>>16495219
He's audience captured. He's put his eggs in the trump basket, which gets him the fervor and support of MAGA. But if he ever slows, or goes against them, it will all evaporate. He's walking a very thin line.

Anonymous No. 16495233

>>16495227
haven't you heard anon? All scientists are lying frauds. You can only trust your fellow anon from www.4channel.org

Anonymous No. 16495237

>>16495191
His daughter rapes people?
How sad when a father loses control of their child

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Anonymous No. 16495238

>new post from Anonymous on /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
>tranime reaction picture

Anonymous No. 16495244

>>16495238
>complaining about anime while posting AI
Kek

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Anonymous No. 16495245

>2024
>still calling it tranime (post 2016 election tourist buzzword)
/qa/ lost, sharty lost, go back

Anonymous No. 16495246

>>16495245
>>16495244
>>16495238
>>16495237
fuck you

Anonymous No. 16495247

>calling a classic Baroque era masterpiece painting AI

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Anonymous No. 16495248

>>16495244
I laughed.

But there's really not much to talk about. Elon is clearly checked out until IFT 7, more interested in vidya and twitter shitposts. Not much else to discuss.

Anonymous No. 16495249

>>16495248
>Elon is clearly checked out until IFT 7, more interested in vidya and twitter shitposts
he just like me fr fr

Anonymous No. 16495255

>>16495246
t. Scott Manly

Anonymous No. 16495256

>>16494802
Makes me wonder how fashion will develop on a future Mars colony. Early on of course it will probably be utilitarian jumpsuits and the like, but eventually people will want more formal stuff for other occasions. Also need to figure out what kinds of cloth/fabric will be possible to make on Mars - will make make sense to have cotton plants in the green houses, or will everything be synthetics? How long before someone manages to ship some sheep to sheer for their wool? (Also gets you mutton and milk too, which is nice).

Anonymous No. 16495260

>Clear is able to do collabs with Mitsubishi now
wtf

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Anonymous No. 16495265

>>16494802
>Their whole dress and fashion is European in origin, even their political leadership dress themselves in the way of white people.
lmao
You will never be British, Pierre/Hans/Ivan/Tayden.

Anonymous No. 16495271

>>16495256
>Cotton
Not cotton, that's too water intensive it'll probably be something like hemp or linen if natural fabrics are grown.

Anonymous No. 16495277

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
·
6m
And next year, Falcon is aiming for >150 flights!

Anonymous No. 16495280

>>16495233
i have heard this akshually. the flat earthers are the most reliable.

Anonymous No. 16495281

>>16495277
aim close miss close

Anonymous No. 16495295

>>16495227
It makes sense, but making sense is the lowest possible standard you could have for proof.

1. The argument makes sense. In other words, it's not incoherent nonsense.
2. The argument's position is consistent with the evidence.
3. The argument demonstrates that alternative explanations are unlikely.
4. The argument demonstrates that alternative explanations are impossible.

This paper manages 1 and 2 easily and attempts 3, but it's not convincing or exhaustive.

Anonymous No. 16495296

>>16495280
right right, this so called modern ""Scientist"" changes his or her opinions like underwear - every few months. And we're supposed to beleive them??? menawhile us flat earth chads will forever believe in the one true truth!

Anonymous No. 16495297

>>16495087
The sheer will and determination of earth life to exist wherever it can…
Impressive, really.
Are we any different? We (humans) are trying to colonize the moon and mars—natural habitats that clearly aren’t suited for us yet we are determined anyways lol

Anonymous No. 16495298

>>16495295
>but it's not convincing
so in other words, what you're saying is... it doesn't make sense... Ironic.

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Anonymous No. 16495299

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm9NodjNGY8
>[Comparison Video] 2nd Stage Motor for Epsilon S Rocket (E-21) Combustion test 2024.11.26 VS 2023.07.14

Anonymous No. 16495300

>>16495297
>We (humans)
And how many of ((us)) are there left by now? Must be no more than a few million on this gay planet

Anonymous No. 16495302

>>16495298
No, it makes sense. It's unconvincing because it seems to make a lot of assumptions, which makes it a weak argument.

Anonymous No. 16495308

>>16494691
Why can't the spaceships be golden? Plain white is boring, and they're spending a lot money in them anyways.

Anonymous No. 16495310

>>16495296
how could i have ever doubted them!?!

Anonymous No. 16495312

>>16495308
White actually serves a purpose

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Anonymous No. 16495313

Debris

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16495319

>>16495312
Which is?

Anonymous No. 16495320

>>16494930
I feel the pain, let me guess.
You are an adult who "knows whats up" through real academic and work experience in science/engineering/technology, and feel like this place is infested with teenagers?

Anonymous No. 16495321

>>16495319
Thermal control.

Anonymous No. 16495322

>>16495312
Which is? (Wrong answers only)

Anonymous No. 16495325

>>16495321
Oh. That's a shame.

Anonymous No. 16495326

https://x.com/Arianespace/status/1861730974481977724
>FLIGHT VV25: LAUNCH POSTPONEMENT
>Due to the need to conduct further precautionary checks and activities on launcher preparation and finalization, the VV25 launch, originally scheduled for December 3, 2024, from Europe’s Spaceport, in Kourou, French Guiana, is postponed. The impact of these add checks is today estimated in the range of one day. The new launch date will be confirmed by Friday November 29. The launcher and its passenger, the Copernicus Sentinel-1C satellite, are in stable and safe conditions.

Oh no

Anonymous No. 16495329

>>16495326
BERGER'S

Anonymous No. 16495331

>>16495322
rocket makers are racist

Anonymous No. 16495332

>>16495322
they are conducting a test on how dirty the air and space are. its kind of like when you put on a white cotton glove to test for dust after your servants claim to have cleaned the mantle piece etc.

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Anonymous No. 16495334

>>16495329
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/4736
It could be worse. This classified thing was supposed to launch sometime in late 2021

Anonymous No. 16495335

>>16495322
they don't bother painting the rocket because they know it will just blow up once it hits the roof, where do you think stars come from?? thats right they're just holes into heaven
god won't be happy. it will end up just like tower of babel!

Anonymous No. 16495353

>>16495187
If Isaac Arthur didn't want to be slandered he shouldn't have eaten poop in the first place

Anonymous No. 16495355

>>16495353
poop proof?

Anonymous No. 16495360

>>16495355
it came to me in a dream

Anonymous No. 16495362

>>16495360
this guy dreams about fat men with speech impediments eating poop

Anonymous No. 16495364

>>16495362
Very sad

Anonymous No. 16495365

>>16495313
ship or booster?

Anonymous No. 16495366

>>16495362
it is what it is

Anonymous No. 16495367

>>16495365
ship https://x.com/interstellargw/status/1861832392882663568

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Anonymous No. 16495385

Starship v3 prototype

Anonymous No. 16495393

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPBSzyuX_Ak
>Flight 7 Updates, Ship 26 Scrapped! Starbase Flyover Update

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Anonymous No. 16495399

Forward bulkhead for Haven.

Anonymous No. 16495401

>>16495256
A major thing that they want to produce locally very early on is space suits. Normal clothes might be some chunk of the spacesuit assembly line, with formal wear literally being spacesuit derived instead of military uniform derived

Anonymous No. 16495403

>>16495320
No I just don't have schizophrenia

Anonymous No. 16495409

>>16494809
Yes we know you like to take it slow mr bezos, no need to remind us.

Anonymous No. 16495410

>>16495224
>chinkshit rocket render
ftfy

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Anonymous No. 16495414

https://x.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/1861868979087876277

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>>16495414

Anonymous No. 16495416

>>16495399
>alumimeme

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>>16495415

Anonymous No. 16495420

>>16495418
It's fun to stay at the YYYY

Anonymous No. 16495422

>>16495416
Nothing wrong with aluminum.

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>>16495415
sorry space fags generally, but thats been debunked. clearly a fake.

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Anonymous No. 16495426

How hard would it be to build a Sea Dragon? or even just a half scale version (~200t to LEO) isn't being dirt cheap & easy the whole point of the concept?

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Anonymous No. 16495430

>>16494906

Anonymous No. 16495431

>>16495415
can these guys stop copying space x

Anonymous No. 16495433

>>16494919
we need to start with the Stanford Torus in LEO
the O'Neill Cylinders can wait until we have mass drivers on the moon

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Anonymous No. 16495438

>>16495433
>Stanford Torus in LEO
it'd reenter too quickly and it's too heavy even for mature starship. they're for HEOs

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Anonymous No. 16495439

>>16495418
>So many women
Yeah I bet that launch mount is going to end up looking worse than the one from flight one.
Rocket lab is so fucked lmao

Anonymous No. 16495440

>>16495299
Impressive that they keep blowing up like that considering it's the same shit they use on H-3.

Anonymous No. 16495441

>>16495414
toy rocket, toy launch pad

Anonymous No. 16495443

>>16495244
I'm pretty sure that image predates AI

Anonymous No. 16495444

>>16495439
regular concrete could probably withstand their toy rocket

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16495445

>Vindman is on the payroll of Ukrainian oligarchs and has committed treason against the United States, for which he will pay the appropriate penalty
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1861820349270335817
/k/atamites, your response?

Anonymous No. 16495447

>>16495445
back to pol

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16495450

>elon is starting an anti-woke video game company
he's saving one industry at a time

Anonymous No. 16495451

>>16495450
source?

Anonymous No. 16495452

>spaceflight general

Anonymous No. 16495455

>>16495450
To keep it space related, he should either buy the Kerbal Space Program IP, or direct his new game company to make a similar game. Would be a good way to get younger people interested in Space Flight, and the iterative development process you do in those sorts of games would be great for getting budding engineers in the right mindset before joining SpaceX.

Anonymous No. 16495458

Kerbal troonflight program 2 is a cucked game play the original

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Anonymous No. 16495462

There is an oddity that I have been wondering about for a while now.

Pic is an example of intelsat, but it is something I have seen in several satellites now in LEO or GEO. Why does the eccentricity cycles? I would understand if orbits circularize due to drag, or orbital perturbations would make these graphs wonky, but no, they almost consistently show a cycle in which a satellite circularizes and then elliptices(would that be the correct word?) and I can't wrap my head around the how is that possible with such symmetry, and so constantly.

Anonymous No. 16495465

>>16495455
>competing with games that have decades of development history

starting a new game company now without a gimmick is idiotic

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16495470

>>16495451
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1861801046949191686

Anonymous No. 16495473

>>16495462
>anon cannot comprehend Hall-effect thrusters on what is likely a SSL 1300 bus

Anonymous No. 16495474

>>16495462
nobody cares incel.

Anonymous No. 16495476

>>16495450
>>16495470
oh boy, I hope he makes a real spaceflight simulator in 4K 60fps, I hate those kerbal things with a passion. And yes, I have seen Juno: New Origins, formerly known as SimpleRockets2. However, it still lacks several things, and it feels more like an amateur project.

Anonymous No. 16495478

>>16495473

If these were stationkeeping maneuvers, wouldn't they align perfectly with a straight altitude line? Also I have seen these on hypergolic engines too, like the ones from the Russian Yantar bus.

Anonymous No. 16495482

>>16495438
>it's too heavy
build it one piece at a time
put it in a slightly higher orbit

Anonymous No. 16495488

>>16495462
it varied by such a small amount over quite a long time

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Anonymous No. 16495489

>>16495299
これは試験のために

Anonymous No. 16495490

>>16495465
You are retarded

Anonymous No. 16495492

>>16495470
>too many game studios are own by massive corporations
>uses massive corporation to make another game studio
>using AI
I have little hopes for what ever games they produce

Anonymous No. 16495495

>>16495488
Yes, but... why? It could also vary randomly due to perturbations, but no, it is a cycle, and I thought it was stationkeeping but then inactive decaying objects also do that cycle.

It's just very weird.

Anonymous No. 16495497

>>16495489
RIP

Anonymous No. 16495500

>>16495455
>They just straight copy what ever flight algorithms are used by SpaceX into the game
>every other company and nation still to dumb to use it for their rockets

Anonymous No. 16495504

>>16495495
Flyby Anomaly
Do not investigate further

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Anonymous No. 16495506

Timeline of BAS

Anonymous No. 16495510

>>16495414
sir, this is the spacex fan general

Anonymous No. 16495514

>>16495495
moon have anything to do with it?

Anonymous No. 16495516

>>16495506
its smart that they are using the same module format, but do they really need to jump straight into a large station?

Anonymous No. 16495519

>>16495516
you think 1 module a year is something outrageous ?

Anonymous No. 16495522

>>16495519
why does it take 7 years to get those things up there? why not one every 2 weeks for example? why does almost everyone think in such sloooooowww moootiion?

Anonymous No. 16495526

>>16495522
you don't hate oldspace enough
you may think you do, but you Don't.

Anonymous No. 16495528

>>16495522
these agencies like to play things out for 20+ years in the future to guarrentee lucrative careers
after that they are retired and who cares

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Anonymous No. 16495531

>>16495526
>>16495528
yeah ok, it's not just me then. oh well, so long as they get something done its better than nothing i suppose.

Anonymous No. 16495532

>>16495530
it was pretty classy really. i wouldn't have minded being forced to keep away from all those icky humans either.

Anonymous No. 16495537

>>16495024
electric resistive

Anonymous No. 16495538

>>16495530
Futura font chads rise up

Anonymous No. 16495539

>>16495087
PAN FUCKING SPERMIA CONFIRMED

Anonymous No. 16495540

>>16495538
I'm just a simple Noto Sans man.

Anonymous No. 16495542

>>16495024
lots of pushups and burpies. will also help with the effects of lower gravity

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Anonymous No. 16495544

>>16495539
You did trust the plan, didn't you?

Anonymous No. 16495546

>>16495542
I hate cardio

Anonymous No. 16495548

>>16495537
baseboard heaters?
what is this the 70s?
are you forgetting the temps can swing from well below zero to almost 100 degrees?

Anonymous No. 16495550

>>16495548
baseboard heaters and fiber insulation

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>>16495297

Anonymous No. 16495559

>>16495546
space might not be for you im afraid. cardio is officially part of having the right stuff.

Anonymous No. 16495562

i hate prebreathing.

Anonymous No. 16495564

>>16495548
You can have heating strips in the central air system. I have baseboard heaters and it's completely fine, it's the most common heating method where electricity is cheap and heat pumps aren't fully reliable because it gets too cold.
The moon is similar
>are you forgetting the temps can swing from well below zero to almost 100 degrees?
No, that's exactly why you can't use heat pumps (that and the vacuum). Heat strips have no restrictions you can just stack them if you need more heat. Electricity will be infinitely cheaper than gas since you don't have to import it. I don't really see another way

Anonymous No. 16495569

>>16495564
if they use nuclear power its going to be a non-brainer

Anonymous No. 16495570

>>16495559
I'm just gonna upload my mind into a buff tesla optimus,

Anonymous No. 16495571

>>16495570
good luck with the expanded and rigorous psychological testing regime anon

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Anonymous No. 16495572

>>16495564
I was just reading about how the ISS does it and they use ammonia heat exchanger loops
so I'm sure they'll have presence especially on the moon

Anonymous No. 16495573

>>16495562
What about rebreathing?

Anonymous No. 16495574

>>16495564
we can use heat pumps, we just need to pump the heat into underground boreholes, which causes a phase change in the underground ice and then we slurp up the delicious delicious water and slowly collapse our foundations

Anonymous No. 16495575

>>16495572
why would you need that
just circulate the air
the moon is the heat sink

Anonymous No. 16495577

oh, are we on Luna right now

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Anonymous No. 16495580

>>16495570
I want to be an Adrian Barbeaubot.

Anonymous No. 16495581

>>16495544
He has Marxist phenotype

Anonymous No. 16495583

>>16495581
cool it with the antisemitism

Anonymous No. 16495585

>>16495024
Solar heat thermal mass storage using random shit like gravel. No need for heat pumps when you have an entire goddamn sun shining right at you in a vacuum. Heat it up during the day using surface heat exchangers and a simple coolant loop, warm yourself with it during the night. You don't even need much becauae you're in a vacuum and regolith is a great insulator too. There's basically no temperature swings below half a meter depth either.

Anonymous No. 16495587

>>16495572
here's the paper if anyone wants to read it
https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/473486main_iss_atcs_overview.pdf

Anonymous No. 16495590

we need agnostic first and second stages. that way if your first stage gets grounded by the faa then you can still launch on someone else's first stage.

Anonymous No. 16495592

>>16495587
NOBODY WANTS TO READ YOU STUID BLOG, INCEL

Anonymous No. 16495599

>>16495592
they will call you an incel, but never why

Anonymous No. 16495600

>>16495592
you eat paint chips as a kid?
that's NASA approved oldspace tech chud
better take off your hat and show respect

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Anonymous No. 16495608

>>16495581
He was a good Yorkshire lad, not a trace of 4 by 2 in him

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Anonymous No. 16495613

so i guess we gotta go to spacexmasterrace for discussion on reddit now? threads get removed if trump is involved in any way.

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Anonymous No. 16495616

>>16495613
Musk should buy reddit

Anonymous No. 16495619

>>16495613
time for spacexloungelounge

Anonymous No. 16495621

>>16495613
average /sfg/ regular

Anonymous No. 16495622

>>16495613
I haven't been on reddit since 2014
what's your malfunction?
what could even draw you there

Anonymous No. 16495623

>>16495590
Need a universal stage diameter and docking mechanism for that to start. Starship wont do it because the diameter is at least 3x too small. Maybe in 20 years when galaxyship exists it will make 64m the universal stage diameter. whoever wants to send a surface base directly to pluto will make a custom stage to go on top.

Anonymous No. 16495624

do youtubers avoid trump in their spaceflight videos? i bet its a trigger word for some of them.

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Anonymous No. 16495625

>>16494904
Based

Anonymous No. 16495628

>Falcon's 375th overall landing
lmao

Anonymous No. 16495629

>>16495628
soon
New Glenn first landing

Anonymous No. 16495637

>>16495629
Dude, get some shit into orbit first before you start having delusions of grandeur.

Anonymous No. 16495639

>>16495562
postbreathing EVA suits

Anonymous No. 16495640

>>16495628
>SpaceX: 375
>Rest of the entire world combined: 0
lol

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16495643

>>16495640
>>16495628
well its a useless party trick soo....
unless you are going out of your way to ruin the nightsky for astronomers.

Anonymous No. 16495648

>>16495640
no client could ever make use of so many launches

Anonymous No. 16495652

>>16495643
>useless party trick
the funny part is that there are actual retards that say this without an ounce of irony lol

Anonymous No. 16495653

>>16495613
I dunno m8 have you tried not being a fucking redditor?

Anonymous No. 16495656

>>16495652
when f9 booster first landed the takeaway from normies was exactly that. it was seen as a disgusting waste of money to show off by those few who even knew about it

Anonymous No. 16495661

>>16495656
I'm glad that they'll always be observers to history and have little to no effect on anything in spaceflight

Anonymous No. 16495672

>>16495656
That reminds me of
>Schrödinger's SpaceX: SpaceX is a fraud and NASA did it all decades ago already, but all the hard work was done by the engineers, and they are the ones who should be credited. Did I forget to say that SpaceX is still a scam? Yeah, also, the engineers did all the work, not Musk.

Anonymous No. 16495680

>>16495613
>leldit
you get what you fucking deserve

Anonymous No. 16495681

>>16495613
>discussion on reddit
Literally why are you even trying? Why punish yourself by going to that god forsaken website?

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Anonymous No. 16495683

>>16495616
That is too toxic to fix, even for Elon.
But definitely he should get MSNBC for the lulz.
>Must Sell Now Before Christmas

Anonymous No. 16495684

>>16495683
>That is too toxic to fix, even for Elon.
Simply shutting it down would be worthwhile.

Anonymous No. 16495685

>>16495613
>spacexmasterrace
unironically a decent subreddit, one of the few remaining places along with sfg that doesn't suffer from EDS

Anonymous No. 16495686

>>16495684
And risk ANOTHER great migration? have you forgotten about tumblr?

Anonymous No. 16495688

>>16495686
they're already here

Anonymous No. 16495692

>>16495686
If they can be convinced to join блycкий, maybe that might work.

Anonymous No. 16495694

>>16495692
oh yeah, I forgot about that place for a second lol

Anonymous No. 16495700

>>16495683
That's exactly what people said about Twitter, but it's turned around nicely. Reddit's problems are wide-spread but they're far from unfixable

Anonymous No. 16495705

>>16495688
we still have the discord. the moderation team is quite good at detecting redditors

Anonymous No. 16495708

fags

Anonymous No. 16495710

>>16495705
Can I have an invite link? My name is Rupert#4952

Anonymous No. 16495715

>>16495710
sent :^)

Anonymous No. 16495728

what do you guys talk about anyways in the discord

Anonymous No. 16495739

>>16495426
I haven't followed in a while. Is that real? Very likely not, judging by the condition, but just maybe I missed something cool.

Anonymous No. 16495740

>>16495613
>leddit
Commies run the site and they hate Musk

Anonymous No. 16495741

>>16495739
>concept render
https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1861832848958771535

Anonymous No. 16495742

>>16495739
that's a rendering for what they plan to do in the future

Anonymous No. 16495744

>>16495740
according to /g/, reddit loves musk

Anonymous No. 16495746

>>16495744
Its called gaslighting trannies. Nothing that comes out of communists mouth can be trusted to be true except that its true lies. Often opposite is true.

Anonymous No. 16495754

>>16495744
Reddit used to love Elon, now they hate him.

Anonymous No. 16495755

>>16495728
gay anal sex tips

Anonymous No. 16495757

>>16495755
nah we save that for the IRC

Anonymous No. 16495759

according to /g/, reddit loves cock

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Anonymous No. 16495761

>>16495755
ass-to-ass is the kino refuelling procedure, I don't care what others say

Anonymous No. 16495765

>>16495728
The joke is that it doesnt exist. Think cubic kilometer. Or Clears supposed womanhood

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Anonymous No. 16495766

>>16495761
>those leg compartments
i want all starships to have legs at all times. I dontgive a fuck about the saved mass. fine, land it with the catch points onthe twoer, but still have legs!
my non aestetics justificationis that having legs gives you emergency deorbit capability over anywhere where there is land. andif the DODever want to do point to point with starship then it needs legs.

Anonymous No. 16495769

>>16495766
how heavy would starship legs would be anyways? as a comparison, falcon 9 legs supposedly weigh around 2 tons in total.

Anonymous No. 16495771

>>16495766
>>16495769
the 2 issues are design and rapid reusability if I'm not mistaken, it's just more convenient to catch with the tower.
for now at least, since they'll need legs to land on Mars

Anonymous No. 16495773

>>16495769
HLS legs will probably be so much heavier than F9 legs, by a long shot

Anonymous No. 16495778

porn

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Anonymous No. 16495779

someone finally did it
long range rc cars, boats and planes will soon be more viable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmj0qeOVcsk

Anonymous No. 16495781

>>16495773
hls only has to land under lunar gravity so why would the legs be heavier?

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Anonymous No. 16495784

>>16495771
when we get legs I hope they go for something more unorthodox like picrel

Anonymous No. 16495787

>>16495784
having the forward kegs stowed on the back like that is clever

Anonymous No. 16495788

>>16495544
Trust the plan? I. AM. THE PLAN.

Anonymous No. 16495789

>>16495784
That feels pretty risky when launching.

Anonymous No. 16495790

>>16495787
I've been enamoured by this design ever since I first saw it, I can almost see the legs unfolding mid fall like a switchblade

Anonymous No. 16495791

>>16495784
I swear I've seen here some Starship render with insect-like legs, can't find it right now

Anonymous No. 16495794

>>16495789
not really, the legs aren't protruding that much, and the forward legs would probably be thinner IRL

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Anonymous No. 16495795

Your days are numbered, Old Space fags.

Anonymous No. 16495797

>>16495794
Even if the starship doesn't need all the engines to lift from mars, the two large ones are pretty close to the three inner raptors. I wouldn't want to rely on them for repeated landings.

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Anonymous No. 16495802

>>16495797
just space them out a little more

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Anonymous No. 16495805

>>16495795
No anon, Elon won't bid to cancel SLS
(but they could be forced to get new contractors)

Anonymous No. 16495806

>>16495781
approximate mass of HLS at landing is 300 ton, which weighs only 50 ton on the moon, but still has momentum of 300 ton, therefore stronger legs will be needed for non-perfect final burns. Falcon 9 dry mass is around 22 ton.

Anonymous No. 16495808

>>16495790
the 6 legs is good too for the redundancy. it would be very risky having a 4 leg design and expecting every leg to deploy perfectly after a 6 month coast

Anonymous No. 16495810

>>16495806
>mass of HLS at landing is 300 ton, which weighs only 50 ton on the moon, but still has momentum of 300 ton
am i the only one that has trouble really getting mass/gravity differences?
it feels really weird to even think about

Anonymous No. 16495812

>>16495806
300? Wow that's heavy.

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Anonymous No. 16495815

Clear

Anonymous No. 16495816

>>16495815
small and cute!

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Anonymous No. 16495819

>>16495791
this one?

Anonymous No. 16495820

>>16495815
>clear made it
/sfg/ didnt
are we even trying? we're the euros of the spaceflight community, arent we?

Anonymous No. 16495821

>>16495815
kek, clear haters seething

Anonymous No. 16495822

>>16495815
what satellite is that

Anonymous No. 16495824

>>16495613
NOOOOO NOT MY HECKING TRUMPERINOS!!! NOT THE GAD-ANGLE GOOD BOY TRUMPEROONIES!!!

Anonymous No. 16495825

>>16495824
>new video with elon dropping new info
>jannies: thats insaaaaaaaane
>jannie turns on video
>sees trump
>face turns bright red in rage
>immediately locks thread and bans the OP
hmmmmmmmm

Anonymous No. 16495828

>>16495822
Quasi-Zenith Satellite System

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Anonymous No. 16495838

>>16495825
>Dropping new info
>The 500th explanation of the belly flop for normalfags

Anonymous No. 16495842

>>16495806
>still has momentum of 300 ton
wtf are you talking about lol, it isn't going to do a hoverslam

Anonymous No. 16495862

>>16495728
there were two different discords, nobody posted in them and each was deleted within the month

Anonymous No. 16495864

>>16495838
Damn, you fucking dumb, bro.

Anonymous No. 16495871

please report this POS waste trash to DOGE

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_cgTVTwu4nw

Anonymous No. 16495874

>>16495842
he meant inertial mass

Anonymous No. 16495880

>>16495871
Nice anon thanks for sharing

Anonymous No. 16495881

>>16495871
>ai generated fireplace

Anonymous No. 16495888

>>16495871
>official government aislop

Anonymous No. 16495890

>>16495871
Why a horribly failing, incredibly behind schedule, and amazingly overpriced Boeing rocket and not Starship?
Serious question for NASA. Why would they ruin Christmas like this?

Anonymous No. 16495891

>>16495779
ooh cool

Anonymous No. 16495896

>>16495613
Link to video? I can't seem to find that

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Anonymous No. 16495897

>>16495890
Solids sound more aesthetic them liquid engines. And that's a fact

Anonymous No. 16495899

>>16495613
I get all my information from Reddit, so this is dishartening

Anonymous No. 16495900

>>16495896
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytrtFsXRXGY
Skip to 4:20 unless you want to hear bimbos talk about their outfits and the food they ate today. It's tolerable on mute, if you're into the fetal alcohol syndrome kind of look.

Anonymous No. 16495902

>>16495897
we still have better quality higher framerate views of one SLS launch than we have for six Starship launches. fucking crazy

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Anonymous No. 16495903

>>16495902
Can't FIFO elon sadly.

Anonymous No. 16495904

>>16495902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvHY6imbUBo ?

Anonymous No. 16495907

>>16495900
I was promised new information. Curse you anon for making me listen to femoids blab about their day >>16495825 for two seconds of elon repeating stuff I already know.

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Anonymous No. 16495909

>>16495900
Sort comments by new for a laugh

Anonymous No. 16495911

>>16495904
>no tower views
>no drone views
>no buoy views
All we got are third party trackers and highly compressed X piss streams

Anonymous No. 16495912

>>16495900
I already saw that. The part with Musk and Trump was cut very short. I wanted to see more of their reactions

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Anonymous No. 16495914

>>16495912
Yeah, that's all there is. It's just MAGA retards shilling for trump's granddaughter's youtube channel.

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Anonymous No. 16495917

>>16495779
Project bob should be up your alley
https://www.projectbob.xyz/

Anonymous No. 16495920

>>16495907
There was several pieces of new info, you probably should watch it again without fixating on the zoomer jailbait.

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Anonymous No. 16495927

>>16495920
>There's several pieces of new info
>Posts none
>Give the video another view please!
No. Shill your travel blog somewhere else.

Anonymous No. 16495930

>>16495920
>without fixating on the zoomer jailbait.
cannot be done

Anonymous No. 16495931

>>16495927
why dont the chinese ever have music on their station?

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Anonymous No. 16495935

space force classified info is getting leaked

Anonymous No. 16495937

>>16495935
do you have a link to these guides? milguides tend to be full of good shit

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Anonymous No. 16495943

>>16495937
i dont. everyone is being skittish about linking to the leaker.

Anonymous No. 16495946

>>16495935
Another 15 years coming up.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16495947

>>16495937
https://t.me/donleaksus

Anonymous No. 16495948

>>16495947
can you just download any of the particularly interesting pdfs and then post them

Anonymous No. 16495950

>>16495948
i dont have telegram

Anonymous No. 16495952

>>16495935
Death penalty for top secret leakers

Anonymous No. 16495954

>>16495952
Everything about Mossad should be leaked

Anonymous No. 16495957

Flight 9 equipment starting to show up btw. Assuming Flight 7 goes well, meaning Flight 8 is orbital and ship catch, what does Flight 9 entail? Real payloads? It wouldnt be ship reuse clearly.

Anonymous No. 16495958

>>16495920
Kai isn't a zoomer, she's too young. She's alpha

Anonymous No. 16495959

>>16495947
>>16495948
>>16495937
ohononononoo you guys are going to federal prison

Anonymous No. 16495960

>>16495958
Alphas are literally iPad kids, max 13 years old. You are retarded. Early zoomers are 25 tops. Im mid zoomer and still border closer to millenials in culture than the rest of the late zoomers

Anonymous No. 16495961

>>16495958
>Kai isn't a zoomer, she's too young. She's alpha
hnnnnngggg plap plap plap

Anonymous No. 16495966

>>16494897
ultra high molecular weight polymers

Already in the top tier of rad shielding behind aluminum and ahead of water IIRC

Anonymous No. 16495978

>>16495054
Elon is one of the few men in the world who has the right to throw shade at the F-35, but he hasn’t done it the correct way yet.

Spoilers: a perfected ISR constellation would make tracking aircraft easy and negate the main benefits of stealth planes.
SpaceX is obviously in a prime position for handling this scenario.
However Elon, dense as ever, seems to be ranting about how the “government is dumb and corrupt and full of ULA snipers and I should be in charge of spending!”
What he should be doing instead is beating Lockheed at their own MIC scare-monger game and explain to the public and Congress that in a hot war scenario with China it’s not unlikely their fancy B2’s and F-35s could be tracked by future Chinese ISR sats.

Anonymous No. 16495980

>>16495978
>Elon, dense as ever
Imagine what he would have become if he had your brains.

Anonymous No. 16495983

>>16495960
Ok zoomer

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Anonymous No. 16495988

>>16495980
Elon is either holding back or not even trying.
He’s thrown shade at the F-35 but with earther-tier concern trolling factoids.
He should go big picture and outright say space is the next evolution of warfare and that planefags will be jobbers by the end of the century.

Anonymous No. 16495990

>>16495978
lol what do you think starshield does?
it does a lot more than they say
not to mention the air force footed a lot of the early starlink bill

Anonymous No. 16496000

>>16495988
How would that serve his interest

Anonymous No. 16496001

>>16495988
Stupid cat

Anonymous No. 16496002

>>16495958
nah she's a zoomer
alpha isn't till 2010

Anonymous No. 16496003

>>16495988
perhaps he can't say that outright or thinks there is going to be some kind of backlash that hurts the starship programme short term
you know the air force has already contracted them for earth-to-earth delivery, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a bunch of other shit too at least in the concept phase

Anonymous No. 16496005

>>16495988
why is this cat Skyrim

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Anonymous No. 16496013

I was rereading the "surface to orbit" page of Atomic Rockets and noticed that the infrastructure, heat management, and power delivery/conversion costs of the non chemical launch options get completely retarded long before you get to 200 ton payload vehicles, let alone multiple of them a day, except for boomboom Orion, which has... other problems. Starship being so fucking big and able to use its own cryogenic propellant for cooling and chopsticks for RTLS/restack beats every proposed alternative that doesn't rely on fringe physics. Focusing on reducing expended dry mass instead of reducing wet mass was SpaceX's first great contribution that almost nobody else has internalized.

Anonymous No. 16496029

>>16495957
probably just more practice on ship catch, maybe flying propellant transfer hardware in preparation for the demo in summer.

Anonymous No. 16496033

>>16496029
Prop transfer hardware would be so fucking cool. Man I really want this bird to be done already so we can see the cool as fuck ship sex fluid transfer

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Anonymous No. 16496034

>>16496033

Anonymous No. 16496080

>>16496013
Not using an aerospike is spacexes biggest mistake.

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Anonymous No. 16496087

I’m thankful for American superiority in aerospace, the NASA worm, the apollo Lunar Module, and space exploration technologies corp

Anonymous No. 16496088

>>16494897
Zinc

Anonymous No. 16496095

>>16496087
looks kind of disgusting ngl

Anonymous No. 16496096

>>16496095
literal slop
When mass autism gone, we will we get actual food in space

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Anonymous No. 16496097

>>16494713
I can't believe it actually happened lmao

Anonymous No. 16496100

>>16496033
imagine the rocketgirl sex

Anonymous No. 16496109

>>16496080
Needlessly expensive for the intended architecture. I hope Stoke succeeds with their shieldspike.

Anonymous No. 16496110

>>16496080
>aeromemes
kek

Anonymous No. 16496120

>>16496097
Is Starship going to just going to orbit moon and they will use the elevator to get down? Would save some delta-v I guess.

Anonymous No. 16496121

https://x.com/Tesla_Optimus/status/1862116407594377698

new hand

Anonymous No. 16496122

>>16496121
Is this one also controlled by a jeet?

Anonymous No. 16496131

>>16495037
Long March = names of CASC's liquid propellant rockets
Jielong = names of CASC's solid propellant rockets, except Jielong-2 which was renamed Long March 11 for some reason
Ceres = names of Galactic Energy's solid propellant rockets
Gravity = names of Orienspace's rockets
Hyperbola = names of iSpace's rockets
Kinetica = names of CAS Space's rockets
Kuaizhou = names of CASIC's rockets
Zhuque = names of Landspace's rockets

Anonymous No. 16496137

>>16496121
How much compute Optimus needs? If you don't need a huge datacenter and can run them just from Mars they seems to be better than rovers for exploration, just send a bunch of them with human tools and instruments and a vehicle to drive around, seems to be less expensive and more flexible than trying to make sure a rover is 100% fail safe. One Optimus malfunction? let's just use another mass produced optimus to use the tools and instruments to complete the mission. Also you can gain some experience on what humans could do on mars before SpaceX sends real humans to the Mars and makes a more realistic mission design.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16496140

>>16494791
>they can't seem to compete on cost or cadence
What's that supposed to mean? CASC is fully transitioning to cryogenic propellants because they're cheaper to handle than hypergolic propellants. The reason for the low cadence so far is because CASC fucked up the transition process for some reason we don't know, so it was a lot slower than it should've been. However, long delays are hardly unprecedented in aerospace. It might've been that CASC has been bleeding labor and expertise to all the new space start-ups over the last 5-10 years.

>Now they've got dozen new rockets in development all competing for the same spot in the launch market.
That's probably not much more than their market will be able to accommodate, because they have an immense demand for launches.

> they're spinning their wheels
I don't get that impression at all when I see their rapidly changing market structure and the great range of products their companies have in the pipeline. Keep in mind that the lead time for a new large rocket with new engines developed from scratch is usually 7-10 years or more, and that CASC's kerolox rocket lineup would have been considered state of the art only 10 years ago

Anonymous No. 16496141

>>16494791
>they can't seem to compete on cost or cadence
What's that supposed to mean? CASC is fully transitioning to cryogenic propellants because they're cheaper to handle than hypergolic propellants. The reason for the low cadence so far is because CASC fucked up the transition process for some reason we don't know, so it was a lot slower than it should've been. However, long delays are hardly unprecedented in aerospace. It might've been that CASC has been bleeding labor and expertise to all the new space start-ups over the last 5-10 years, causing turnover of certain key personnel and internal organizational disruptions

>Now they've got dozen new rockets in development all competing for the same spot in the launch market.
That's probably not much more than their market will be able to accommodate, because they have an immense demand for launches.

> they're spinning their wheels
I don't get that impression at all when I see their rapidly changing market structure and the great range of products their companies have in the pipeline. Keep in mind that the lead time for a new large rocket with new engines developed from scratch is usually 7-10 years or more, and that CASC's kerolox rocket lineup would have been considered state of the art only 10 years ago

Anonymous No. 16496144

>>16496121
>>16496137
>>16496122
each degree of freedom you add to a robot joint adds an exponent to the price. guaranteed this hand costs about 100k. there is a reason theystarted off simple. Complex is expensive as hell and drains the battery even quicker. Humanoid robots being useful for anything, let alone exploring worlds, is a pipe dream until battery tech gets at least 10x better and price of manufacture comes down at least 10x. not happening soon. AI also needs to 10x in competency but thatmay happen this decade so there is 1 point in favor of robots.

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Anonymous No. 16496147

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyappa_arm

Anonymous No. 16496149

>>16496144
>>16496147
Compare this simple R/C arm vs CanadArm

Anonymous No. 16496169

shut the fuck up

Anonymous No. 16496171

>>16495506
Can we sell them the ISS?

Anonymous No. 16496172

>>16496169
Happy Thanksgiving!
Elon is making everyone work 12 hours today. We have to get to Mars.

Anonymous No. 16496173

Turkey tueseay

Anonymous No. 16496174

>>16495522
The modules are of increasing technical dificulty. They would never start launching if they tried to make a long duration sapce station in one go, but making a pressure vessel with some consumable oxygen is doable in 4 years.
>>16495516
A big station is easier than a small station in terms of life support.

Anonymous No. 16496183

>>16494788
They probably hope to receive orders from foreign customers as well, and so design their marketing slogans with that audience in mind

Anonymous No. 16496186

>>16494848
Most people around the world don't care much about some slavic slog-out in some eastern European backwater

Anonymous No. 16496187

>>16494828
So the USSF assessment that CZ-5 is highly economical was probably correct? It's apparently economical enough to perform the most mundane type of LEO trucking

Anonymous No. 16496192

>>16495516
They are going from a small station to a large station, by gradually turning the small station into a large station.

Anonymous No. 16496194

>>16495522
Someone needs to build those things, and those people are usually the same people. It's more economical to have a small production capacity that builds 1 item per year for 10 years, than it is to establish a massive production capacity that builds 10 items in 1 year and then shut it all down for 9 years until you need it again. It's not like they're in an extreme hurry anyway.

Anonymous No. 16496195

SHUT THE FUCK UP

Anonymous No. 16496196

happy tirkey frieay

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Anonymous No. 16496197

CR-9BR?

Anonymous No. 16496198

>>16496197
>more paper rockets from china
we sleep

Anonymous No. 16496199

>>16495815
What is clear holding? A paper doll?

Anonymous No. 16496201

>>16495819
no not this one you fucking idiot.

Anonymous No. 16496202

The contract for the CZ-10 mobile launch tower has been signed
https://weibo.com/6861836076/P2mshw0qQ

Anonymous No. 16496205

Why didn't you retards tell me to invest in Rocket Lab?

Anonymous No. 16496206

>>16495808
you could even use the inertia of the flip maneuver to reliably extend them, a perfect design

Anonymous No. 16496207

>>16496171
Why would they pay? Couldn't the Russians just disconnect the Russian segment, if the Russian segment wasn't so old and worn down anyway that there is no point to do it

Anonymous No. 16496215

>>16496201
Hey! no need to be an ass about it

Anonymous No. 16496217

I rap3
>>16496201
cats ni**a

Anonymous No. 16496218

>>16496205
common sense skeptic did but youwere too much of an idiot to listen to him.

Anonymous No. 16496219

>>16495909
The actual text is
晓梦随疏钟,飘然蹑云霞。
因缘安期生,邂逅萼绿华。
秋风正无赖,吹尽玉井花。
共看藕如船,同食枣如瓜。
翩翩坐上客,意妙语亦佳。
嘲辞斗诡辩,活火分新茶。
虽非助帝功,其乐莫可涯。
人生能如此,何必归故家。
起来敛衣坐,掩耳厌喧哗。
心知不可见,念念犹咨嗟。

It’s a shitty translation (adds elements not in the original, makes no attempt to preserve the meter, leaves some words untranslated, etc.) but translating Chinese poetry to English is a fool's errand anyway.

Anonymous No. 16496221

>>16495978
He doesn't want to give the government weapons

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Anonymous No. 16496223

cz 12 went vertical

Anonymous No. 16496225

>>16495935
Well I am checking the channel and I can't see a fucking thing.

Anonymous No. 16496237

who else here watches ghetto gaggers?

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16496241

>>16496237
bro what

Anonymous No. 16496244

>>16496241
i watch it during falcon launches to pass the time

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16496250

>>16496244
it should be called bleached desu

Anonymous No. 16496260

Homer hickem. literally cant think of a dumber name. dude must be dumb as dirt

Anonymous No. 16496263

>>16495909
The guy is writing poetry to a foreign princess. I can't laugh

Anonymous No. 16496265

so is the next launch woody or was it some weird ritual they were performing?

Anonymous No. 16496272

>>16496250
penile rupture

Anonymous No. 16496278

>>16496265
according to a NSF vid it was from some random birthday party or something

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Anonymous No. 16496281

>not all spacex and blorigin
>fucking asteroid and lunar mining memes
>blorigin is somehow on par with spacex
>no mention of commercial space stations
atleast they recognize stokes work i guess.. god these people are fucking retarded

Anonymous No. 16496284

>>16496281
>commercial space stations
lmoa

Anonymous No. 16496285

>>16496284
if they wanted to highlight non spacex progress thats where you would go since you want hardware results instead of powerpoint rockets or muh h3. or to the obvious satellite manufacturers but those are boring i guess.

Anonymous No. 16496286

>>16496281
Why is BO always mentioned in the same breath? Is it a self perpetuating meme among journalists who just repeat shit? Is Bezos paying for the recognition (like in the air and space museum)? Is it to pretend SpaceX isn't special? I don't understand

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Anonymous No. 16496287

>>16496284
hmofa

Anonymous No. 16496288

>>16496281
stoke? the bill gates funded company?

Anonymous No. 16496289

>>16496281
It's from Bloom(((berg))) and TV.
Anyone more than 4 years old knows those are both entities that cannot be trusted. They are designed to suck money from (You), and always have been. They love to promote pump-and-dumps, why do you think they play this game?
But, Stoke is based.

Anonymous No. 16496290

>>16496286
either BO is paying for the promotion or journalists are desperate to try and prop up BO as a champion trying to defeat the (((evil))) elon. or both.

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Anonymous No. 16496291

>>16496197
They're still finalizing the design. It's interesting that they're still talking about using hydrogen. It's like the LM-9 designers are stuck in a halfway state between Starship and New Glenn

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Anonymous No. 16496292

>>16496281
Why do they always forget to mention?

Anonymous No. 16496294

>>16496207
In rupees lmao

Who cares just an excuse to get ride of the thing.

Anonymous No. 16496295

>>16496281
there's all kinds of hardware stuff they could cover, and not just vast and axiom, but rocketlab, intuitive machines, oneweb, even stuff like leolabs. strange that a business rag is focused on concepts instead of actual businesses.

Anonymous No. 16496296

>>16496291
I suspect they want both. The slide directly says thirty 200 tons methalox, so I guess a hydrolox second stage refuelable on the Moon.

Anonymous No. 16496297

>>16496292
they did mention it for until a few years ago

Anonymous No. 16496298

>>16496297
It's called the battle of the billionaires

Anonymous No. 16496301

>>16496292
>Virgin galactic
Did any of the breakup footage ever leak or are we stuck with what the NTSB published

Anonymous No. 16496302

happy humpday

Anonymous No. 16496303

>>16496201
hey, you are not me, I was the original anon.
>>16495819
That image is not the one I was looking for. The Starship I'm talking about had some pretty unrealistic legs, and they look like those from a cockroach. Also, they extended outwards, while gradually tapering off.

Anonymous No. 16496304

>>16496295
they focused on the general concept of mining in space why cant i just throw out a significant concept as well? and btw intuitive machines payload fucking tipped, oneweb is an outdated meme constellation when starlink exists, and rocketlab shouldve been next to spacex instead of blorigin so youve got multiple category errors there for ‘up and coming hardware’

Anonymous No. 16496305

>>16496301
i feel like it could be FOIA'd

Anonymous No. 16496307

>>16496303
Fuck yourself. first I have to deal with the doctor giving me bad news about my dose and now you impersonating me. Professional gaslighter BEGONE.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16496310

>>16496308

rape me

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Anonymous No. 16496311

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1862173418726248677

How many months is Musk going to be checked out?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16496312

>>16496291
What about the design is new?

They want three versions: a two stage version with a reusable first stage, a three stage version with a reusable first stage and a hydrolox upper stage, and a two stage fully reusable version. This is the same as before, or...?

Anonymous No. 16496313

>>16496307
Don't wanna get off-topic here, we can sort this out in the discord.

Anonymous No. 16496314

>>16496286
who do you think *owns* the press? Hello!

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Anonymous No. 16496315

>>16496303
>like those from a cockroach
closest one that I can think of

Anonymous No. 16496316

>>16496314
He was unironically talking about journalists in that tweet.

Anonymous No. 16496317

>>16496291
What about the design is new?

They want three versions: a two stage version with a reusable first stage, a three stage version with a reusable first stage and a hydrolox upper stage, and a two stage fully reusable version. This has been the same since 2023, or...?

It makes sense to have a conservative option, because the Starship concept is still unproven, especially the economics of it.

Anonymous No. 16496318

>>16496304
>intuitive machines payload fucking tipped
so what? starship blew up multiple times. and just like spacex, intuitive machines has more on the way. and yeah, oneweb is outdated, but it hasnt really been available as a service yet either, so its hard to say if its a flop for sure or not.

Anonymous No. 16496320

>>16496287
chat is this real

Anonymous No. 16496322

>>16496311
diablo is very casual friendly, whereas path of exile is for hardcore players. its entirely possible that elon thinks that the game isnt for him, drops it, and goes back to his businesses. or he could become an addict.

Anonymous No. 16496323

>>16496316
wasn’t it “powerful people”? That makes the most sense in the context of the full exchange of do “powerful people” want free press.

Anonymous No. 16496324

>>16496315
Yes! That's the one, thanks anon. Quite a surreal design lol

Anonymous No. 16496328

>>16496317
Its got a new name? I don't know if the last time we saw LM-9 slides it had a 10.6m or a 10m diameter. This could just be the same design we saw last time with some incremental finalizations and a new label. LM-10 did this exact same dance before it got official approval.

They're probably just showing it off to try and get some more support for the project from the central government. It's not a bad time for it with Starship making a lot of headlines.

Anonymous No. 16496329

>>16496323
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1000560049389907969

Anonymous No. 16496332

>>16496329
>2018
I remember it like it was yesterday... And apparently it's 6 years ago?

Anonymous No. 16496333

I'm still asshurt that F9 isn't fully reusable.

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Anonymous No. 16496336

I went to the national space museum today

Anonymous No. 16496339

>>16496336
Ah, an angloid. I used to live on the street directly opposite that museum. Sad sad state that our country has to put american ballistic missiles in our national space center.

Anonymous No. 16496340

>>16496333
Think about how crappy and expensive to operate F9 is going to be by the standards of 20 years from now.
The future is looking bright.

Anonymous No. 16496344

>>16496339
Cheer up, lad, things could be much worse. Also, if all goes well, you could have your own SpaceX vs BO within the UK in just a couple of years lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyrora

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Anonymous No. 16496354

>>16496344
>Orbex
The company was founded in 2015 as Moonspike Ltd., with the goal of crowdfunding a private spacecraft mission to the Moon.
>Skyrora
>The Skyrora CEO and founder is Volodymyr Levykin, previously the COO of an AIM-listed online dating company Cupid plc.

Anonymous No. 16496356

fags

Anonymous No. 16496357

>>16496354
>The maiden flight of Prime is expected to occur in 2025, subject to the availability of Space Hub Sutherland and a Civil Aviation Authority launch licence.
>The Skyrora XL is a three-stage orbital launch vehicle under development with nine hydrogen peroxide–kerosene engines of the same type used in Skylark L. Hot-fire tests of the first stage are scheduled to take place no earlier than late 2024.
we'll see

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Anonymous No. 16496358

>>16496339
It was literally all "look how cool the USA and USSR were" with splatters of "we could have been cool too!"

I really enjoyed it though, it's a year pass so I'll go again soon. Packed full of kids though. I hated that.

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Anonymous No. 16496363

This was goofy. It was a concept for gemini which inflated into a paraglider instead of splashing. The reason was "we can't call the navy everytime a capsule lands".

Someone had a lot of fun designing that.

Anonymous No. 16496364

>>16496356
they are called cigarettes.

Anonymous No. 16496365

>>16496364
>won't be able to smoke inside the moonbase
Ah dammit

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Anonymous No. 16496370

EVA suit designed in the 40's by a pair of British schizo. It literally has a cape too.

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Anonymous No. 16496372

>>16496365
this is the only cigar-shaped object I want. we still have time

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Anonymous No. 16496378

>coworkers start talking about space again
This raises my blood pressure.

Anonymous No. 16496380

>>16496378
what do they say

Anonymous No. 16496381

>>16496370
>>16496375
Would it have worked? Did they even know vacuums were a thing back then?

Anonymous No. 16496383

>>16496378
show them your power level, anon

Anonymous No. 16496384

>>16496311
It's over. Space is cancelled.

Anonymous No. 16496385

>>16496380
The usual, "we should fix Earth before going to Mars", "I just don't see the point".

What really gets me is when they start talking about facts on planets or moons, because I know more than them. It just really irritates me for some reason even if they say nothing wrong.

Anonymous No. 16496386

>>16496378
Civilize the normies anon

Anonymous No. 16496389

>>16496385
>"we should fix earth"
>"we should, but we wont, so now its time to leave"

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Anonymous No. 16496390

>>16496378
share the word of Our Lord

Anonymous No. 16496391

>>16496378
>>16496385
Why are you blogging about this shit again? Go back to crystal cafe, dumb bitch.

Anonymous No. 16496392

New Glenn launching this weekend
>The FAA issued three Class 1 NOTAMs on Nov 26th for "Space Ops".
>Airspace Restrictions around Cape Canaveral on Saturday, Sunday, and Monday (Local Time).
>First window is Friday, Nov 29th 11:40 PM to 4:31 AM Local (or the 30th 0450 to 0931 GMT)
>Second window is Saturday, Nov 30th 11:24 PM to 4:05 AM Local (or the 1st 0424 to 0905 GMT)
>Third is Sunday, Dec 1st 10:58 PM to 03:39 AM Local (or Dec 2nd 0358 to 0839 GMT)

Anonymous No. 16496395

>>16496392
nice

Anonymous No. 16496397

>>16496389
lol, it's always the same. poverty, hunger, wars, etc are only issues when talking about space. the rest of the time they forget about them, and go back to consume their hollywood, football, videogames, f1, fast food, etc. maybe we could stop all those multi-billion dollar industries, and feed the poor with that money instead? watch out how they'll get angry at you lmao

Anonymous No. 16496398

>>16496375
>temperature regulation cape
holy sovl, britain should have been the one to dominate spaceflight instead of jewmerica

Anonymous No. 16496400

>>16496392
God I hope so.

Anonymous No. 16496401

>>16496392
not happening, fuck off

Anonymous No. 16496404

one day blue origin will be launching starlinks and then you'll all be sorry

Anonymous No. 16496405

>>16496370
by far the most soulful bit of British space hardware. what could have been...
>>16496358
I went there so many times as a kid due to living so close. I was a massive SpaceXister from the early days and have to admit, I was absolutely LIVID seeing an area dedicated to the fraud Richard Branson and his Virgin Galactic, but no mention of SpaceX and the then ongoing first F9 booster landing attempts.
>>16496344
I can tell if a company is legit or not based off the name, and these two are not making a working rocket, that I can tell you.

Anonymous No. 16496411

do we think that spacex would run their own commercial competitions for mars? they're going to need to build a starbase there too. could we see them put out contracts like nasa does to help spur the development of the colony?

Anonymous No. 16496413

>>16496378
Tell them you're thinking of going postal. Pretend not to know what it means

Anonymous No. 16496415

>>16496392
>Launching
Doubt. It's probably something like a static fire.

Anonymous No. 16496418

>>16496381
>>16496405
>>16496398
I think the early space exploration 'pioneers' were just retards. Supposedly one quoted "if it wasn't for the war we'd have landed on the moon already. As if the war and nazi scientists weren't the ones to make it happen.

Anonymous No. 16496421

>>16496411
That's probably how a lot Mars side price discovery will work. SpaceX would put out a general offer to buy anything locally for cheaper than shipping. This will likely be the foundation of the economy all the way up until self sufficiency

Anonymous No. 16496424

>>16496378
So what did you say to them? Or did you stay silent like a fag and decided to whine here?

Anonymous No. 16496427

>>16496378
When talking to coworkers I refer to Starship as "the new space shuttle" to make things easier.

Anonymous No. 16496428

>>16496392
would be nice but I doubt it, they haven't even static fired it yet

Anonymous No. 16496430

>>16496336
I've eaten lunch under those rockets
>>16496370
Oh is that new? I don't remember seeing it when I went last year

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Anonymous No. 16496444

>>16496392
>NOTAM just in case Blorgin conducts an unscheduled launch during a static fire

Anonymous No. 16496449

>>16496301
Not much of a conspiracy theorist, but there is similar footage for columbia which 'ends' 4 minutes before the breakup. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:STS-107,_final_moments_in_cabin_(Space_Shuttle_Columbia_disaster).webm

I have a sneaking suspicion that that isn't the case and the full length tape was destroyed in order to prevent a pr nightmare. NASA would have been forced to release it if they admitted it existed.

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>>16496430
I'm not sure, it was my first visit. It was super goofy and ridiculous but really cool. It was a great day, some great stuff. Full of kids which sucked. Kids don't care about space. Take them to indoor play areas instead.

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Anonymous No. 16496480

>>16496370
>ywn wear a moon cape

Anonymous No. 16496486

I AM THANKFUL FOR /sfg/

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Anonymous No. 16496488

Anyone else just spend hours looking at planets and moons in SpaceEngine?

Anonymous No. 16496490

>>16496488
no, I touch grass and look at the night sky instead.

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Anonymous No. 16496492

https://x.com/ots_min/status/1734379226155884822
Epsilon's second stage failure mode determined to be insulation damaged by melted igniter.

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Anonymous No. 16496493

I'm definitely gonna build my homestead on the shore of Kraken Mare. If it looks this good comfy with these crappy graphics, it must look heavenly in real life. Dragonfly can't come soon enough.

>>16496490
I'm just incredibly autistic.

Anonymous No. 16496496

new glenn was supposed to launch before 2020 btw https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/09/blue-origin-lc-36-cape-canaveral/

Anonymous No. 16496497

>>16496493
Contrary to popular belief in esefgee, you don't need an atmosphere to live a comfy life

Anonymous No. 16496511

>>16496286
Yes it's to pretend SpaceX isn't special. A straight analysis of how special they are would read like gargling Elon's balls to the haters, many of whom are Bloomberg subscribers.

Anonymous No. 16496513

>>16495322
so the tracking TV cameras can see the rocket better against the black sky.

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Anonymous No. 16496516

>>16496493
>Dragonfly can't come soon enough.
Agree fellow autist

Anonymous No. 16496518

We really need to start deifying Elon Musk

Anonymous No. 16496520

>>16496518
Let's call it the church of elooongation.

Yeah, I'm inspired today, no need to thank me.

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Anonymous No. 16496522

>>16496518

Anonymous No. 16496523

>>16496518
i thought we were already doing that?

Anonymous No. 16496524

>>16496418
>As if the war and nazi scientists weren't the ones to make it happen.
Britain was making jet engines before Germany, the two were basically on par in advanced weapons technology. It's just that Britain had no need to make meme vunderwaffe because it had air superiority.
Jets and rockets werent some hidden technology to Europeans. Even Russia was mass producing rockets during the war. If Britain had the funding ina space program to prevent brain drain then it would have been on technological parity with America and Russia in the 60s

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Anonymous No. 16496525

>>16496523
We need to build a temple

Anonymous No. 16496527

>>16496524
The first jet engine was built by a Norwegian called Williams Elling. He was way ahead of either Germans or UK

Anonymous No. 16496528

>>16496518
Cringe. Elon is just a man, and people should aspire to be better than that.

Anonymous No. 16496530

>>16496392
Dec 1st launch for kino 1 symbolism

Anonymous No. 16496531

>>16496518
so the EDS patients have something real to bitch about? no thanks.

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Anonymous No. 16496533

>>16496518
the messiah

Anonymous No. 16496538

>>16496518
all of elons ideas are bad besides spacex

Anonymous No. 16496545

>>16496538
tesla?
>inb4 "not his idea"

Anonymous No. 16496546

>>16496518
Elon is officially "The Great Elon Musk" in our official government documents. Once Elon starts landing Starships on Mars, he will be the Emperor of Mars.

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Anonymous No. 16496557

>>16496518
We have been

Anonymous No. 16496561

>>16496557
looks like a true rocket baron

Anonymous No. 16496569

>>16496545
>paying a subscription for something you already bought
>self driving car with internet connection
I assume he meant ideas though. Number of kids mattering more than raising the kids, same ideology as preserving humans on Mars, humans are totally fungible and no regard has been given to what daily life will actually be like. Same with hiring and firing like crazy, burning through young engineers. SpaceX is a miracle, but you can't push the formula any further than a rocket company. He needs to die before he can safely be regarded as anything more than an autistic man

Anonymous No. 16496572

>>16496569
Retard

Anonymous No. 16496573

>>16496546
>Emperor
Elon. The first Elon of Mars. As the father of rocketry foretold. The myth writes itself

Anonymous No. 16496580

>>16496573
>Elon Elon, The First Elon
seems legit

Anonymous No. 16496582

>>16496538
Boring Company’s not a flamethrower?

Anonymous No. 16496583

>>16494696
>starship updates
>Here's why the last booster landed in the ocean, here's new footage of the booster ocean landing, here's new renders of the moon version, here's a timeline for orbital refueling tests
>SLS updates
>they moved a big metal tank from horizontal to vertical with a crane. This is a big progress milestone in the way to the next flight, hopefully less than a year away

Anonymous No. 16496585

>>16496572
Why dumbass

Anonymous No. 16496595

>>16496585
Teslas are the best. The other week one fried 3 jeets when it locked itself and caught fire. Whats not to like, tranny?

Anonymous No. 16496599

Imagine being the guy to have sex with elon's trans son/daughter. THAT is a power move. Biden should arrange it.

Anonymous No. 16496601

>>16496363
We used to have a guy who would post the Rogallo wing Gemini every thread

Anonymous No. 16496603

>>16496601
Rogallo wing Gemini was an ancestor of the Space Shuttle
>ok we're landing with big drag rather than just parachutes in the nose
>maybe we could reuse the second stage as a service module?
>shit we need to put the heatshield on the side then
>so let's add some more aero surfaces

Anonymous No. 16496604

First humans have landed. A small housing structure is built for permanent colonization process. You are now tasked to finish the job and grow the colony, while also running SpaceX's forward moving plans.

What are your plans.

Anonymous No. 16496607

>>16496604
play diablo for 6 hours a day

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Anonymous No. 16496608

https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/1862252334778056717

Anonymous No. 16496610

>>16496607
It's hard to argue against what works.

Anonymous No. 16496611

>>16496604
Start making air mattresses.

Anonymous No. 16496612

>>16496608
Delusional

Anonymous No. 16496613

>>16496370
>British Interplanetary Society lunar EVA suit
I remember reading about this years ago. It looks weird to modern eyes but there's some surprisingly clever and prescient design and engineering ideas in it, especially when you consider that it was designed in the 1940's by amateur enthusiasts. I think it looks cool as fuck tee bee aych, like a space-knight.

It does have some things included that are dumb as fuck though. The big chest houses an airlock, so that an explorer can have a closer look at rock samples within his suit. Hope they enjoy dying of lung disease a few years later due to that dust getting everywhere, not to mention the risks involved with bringing an unknown mineral sample never before exposed to O2 into your small life-support environment.

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>>16496613

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>>16496604
Order a deep scan of the planet for stable lava tubes to seal up and live in.

Anonymous No. 16496617

>>16496613
>enjoy dying of lung disease a few years later due to that dust...
The asbestos-lined suit was already going to take care of that. Might as well get a closer look at some cool roggs.

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Anonymous No. 16496619

https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1862268518672093324

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Anonymous No. 16496620

Thoughts? The telescopes look ridiculous, I think I'll change them out when I unlock next deep space telescope. I'll try to put it onto the end of a module or start a new tree. There's the docking port with a basic ship as reference. I don't plan on having propulsion though, but I've got a lot of reaction wheels. Building will be a bit tricky, I plan to use RCS then remove the tanks and thrusters once docked. I was thinking of adding a load of tanks for refueling but I don't really see a point. I'm not sure what else to add, I probably need more mods to add anything functional.

Going to build a shuttle which I haven't before to help build it all but I'll stick most of it in fairings and reuse as much of the rockets as I can.

Anonymous No. 16496624

>>16496619
had to do a double take when I saw that

Anonymous No. 16496626

>>16496619
had to do a doubIe take when I saw that

Anonymous No. 16496627

>>16496620
a bit overkill overall but looks great, but why do you need static solarpanels below the main one?
>Going to build a shuttle which I haven't before
Oh boy, good luck lol

Anonymous No. 16496629

>>16496626
you thought it was Andrew Tate?

Anonymous No. 16496634

>>16496629
Who

Anonymous No. 16496636

>>16496627
I was going to place radiators but they looked gay when clipped together. I think the panels give it a better look instead of just the beams. Docked it all together will be fun, might get the breaking ground dlc. Apparently it's got pistons and a few other handy tools.

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>>16496518
>>16496557

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>>16496370
>>16496614
Imagine a pre-WW2 moon landing.

Anonymous No. 16496641

>>16496582
It's just a big torch

Anonymous No. 16496648

>>16496619
oh great now he's going to bitch about rubber in space too.

Anonymous No. 16496659

>>16496599
I think about this frequently. If I could think of a way to do it it would be my main goal right now

Anonymous No. 16496660

>>16496659
Me too, unironically. We should brainstorm.

Anonymous No. 16496670

>>16496639
Not a chance in hell. If it weren’t for WWII rocket technology in 2024 would look like rocket technology from 1955

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Anonymous No. 16496672

>>16496659
>>16496660

Anonymous No. 16496675

>>16496636
most ksp dlc's are decent, and the pistons are fun to play with (still should've been just part of the game instead of a money grab)

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Anonymous No. 16496677

>>16496670
>Not a chance in hell
Germany could've done it I bet.

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Anonymous No. 16496679

>>16496677
I know the silver bird is cool and all, but the nazis had cooler shit

Anonymous No. 16496684

>>16496613
>Hope they enjoy dying of lung disease a few years later
Send some random British coal miner and they will come back healthier than if they stayed in the mines.
>>16496614
Would this suit actually work if it was awarded the Artemis suit contract?

Anonymous No. 16496685

>>16496620
>Going to build a shuttle
Tip: They arent aerodynamically stable on reentry. Expect to spin out without heavy use of RCS. I went through so many shuttle attempts thinking I was getting soemthign wrong until realising that the irl shuttle wasnt aero stable on reentry either, because the tail is hidden from the airflow.

Anonymous No. 16496686

>>16496677
Without the war aggregat funding would have dried up with not much to show and nazi vanity projects would have taken the form of large buildings and terrestrial machines.

Anonymous No. 16496688

So what do we think? Did the Nazis actually make it to the moon during WW2?

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Anonymous No. 16496689

>>16496518

Anonymous No. 16496690

>>16496291
>>16496197
It's gonna be 100 tons to LEO, have no reuse, and will take another decade to fly.

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Anonymous No. 16496691

>>16496569
>humans are totally fungible and no regard has been given to what daily life will actually be like.
>hiring and firing like crazy, burning through young engineers.
>He needs to die before he can safely be regarded as anything more than an autistic man
I think I've heard this one before

Anonymous No. 16496692

>>16496685
Try building a big X-37B instead where the tail is in the airstream.

Anonymous No. 16496693

>>16496381
>Did they even know vacuums were a thing back then?
Yes lol

Anonymous No. 16496696

>>16496291
>>16496197
man these new designs look so ass, the soviets were the last ones with good sense of aesthetics

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Anonymous No. 16496700

>>16496381
>Did they even know vacuums were a thing back then
I think so. I actually have pic related, the brush attachment is hopelessly corroded but the motor still spins up when plugged in.

Anonymous No. 16496702

Anyone interested in mars colonization?

Anonymous No. 16496703

>>16496702
You'll have to start paying us for our ideas, elon.

Anonymous No. 16496705

>>16496608
FH with the extended fairing is going to look like a whole different rocket
What’s the lore behind it though? i.e. why has FH extended fairing been in the works for what seems like years and years yet it’s taking forever to show itself (besides that one deleted NASA photo lol)
What’s the freaking holdup

Anonymous No. 16496711

>>16496702
Is this your first time here

Anonymous No. 16496712

>>16496702
not really

Anonymous No. 16496713

>>16496702
yeah it’s alright

Anonymous No. 16496714

>>16496711
Is it true that only racist apartheid are interested in mars colony?

Anonymous No. 16496715

>>16496702
we should fix Earth first

Anonymous No. 16496717

>>16496702
Yeah but I want to be the only person who gets to live there, the rest of you keep out.

Anonymous No. 16496720

>>16496715
we should break earth even worse

Anonymous No. 16496728

>If all goes well on Flight 7 we'll be aiming for Flight 8 and first ship catch on the 20th.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1670176427407228931

Anonymous No. 16496730

>>16496728
Looking into this.

Anonymous No. 16496735

>>16496717
How about I take the notth pole and you have the rest or the planet. We can build a border wall around my region as well.

Anonymous No. 16496737

>>16496679
those are nice. starship looks like the real version of all of them, lets be honest.

Anonymous No. 16496739

>>16496728
Wtf I hate elon now

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Anonymous No. 16496741

>>16496735
NO! I NEED THE WHOLE PLACE TO MYSELF!

Anonymous No. 16496742

>>16496381
of course. in the other direction, guys had been working fine at many many ATM and coming back no problem. People were not dumb. The effect of varying pressures were well understood.

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Anonymous No. 16496748

>>16496742
Offgassing of materials in vacuum is still hard to predict without testing.

Anonymous No. 16496752

>>16496748
and vacuum chambers were also a thing

Anonymous No. 16496761

>>16496728
concerning

Anonymous No. 16496767

>>16496700
>dust is stored in the ball

Anonymous No. 16496772

>>16496333
>I'm still asshurt that F9 isn't fully reusable.

Second stage reuse comes with a massive payload penalty.

F9 is too small of a rocket to make the second stage reusable and still have a worthwhile payload to LEO.

This is why Stokes rocket is a joke even if they are successful with their second stage design.

Anonymous No. 16496777

>>16496772
Stoke's rocket is chubbier and uses higher Isp propellants (methalox 1st stage, hydrolox 2nd stage). They also admit it's basically a pathfinder for a larger system.

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Anonymous No. 16496780

Epsilon S motor failure album
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nvslive/albums/72177720322188708/

Anonymous No. 16496782

>>16496777
>pathfinder for a larger system
There's very little chance of this happening if Stokes fails 1-2 times. Money isnt infinite.

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Anonymous No. 16496787

When?

Anonymous No. 16496788

you think you hate nasa enough...
just wait till i finish making my next post

Anonymous No. 16496790

Spacegoy5 is back to arguing about Starship again. This time hes moved the goalposts from Starship will never be fully reusable to it has no market. What is wrong with these “people”?

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Anonymous No. 16496791

>>16496787
Free the nukes

Anonymous No. 16496792

>these drawings of Orion craft that are way too fucking small to make any sense

Anonymous No. 16496796

>>16496777
>Stoke's rocket is chubbier and uses higher Isp propellants

It is the same diameter and substantially shorter yet Stoke thinks they will manage 5 tons to LEO.

Anonymous No. 16496797

>>16496790
his type can only cope

Anonymous No. 16496798

Given that rockets are basically just legos spacex should put a falcon second stage inside starships payload bay and also out the top a little bit as a high energy alternative to orbital refueling.

Anonymous No. 16496799

>>16496796
LH 2 upper helps a low compared to a fat kerolox S2

Anonymous No. 16496801

>>16496790
>it has no market
People really just can't deal with the existence of Starlink at a conceptual level, can they?

Anonymous No. 16496802

>>16496798
Seven Electron rockets in a cluster, fully fueled.

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Anonymous No. 16496803

Fully reusable.

Anonymous No. 16496804

https://x.com/Pinboard/status/1861118698263613839
>There's no pre-cooked MRE type food in existence that is nutritionally complete and has a five-year shelf life, which is what you need for Mars.

[SAD NEWS] NASA can't figure out how to send food to mars
its actually over

Anonymous No. 16496805

>>16496803
u cant stack rockets vertically

Anonymous No. 16496806

>>16496791
These looks incredibly wasteful

Anonymous No. 16496807

>>16496787
Two weeks

Anonymous No. 16496808

>>16496790
it'll be so funny to see the meltdown when SpaceX land on the Moon and Mars

Anonymous No. 16496810

>>16496804
>nasa doesnt know about prepper food

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Anonymous No. 16496811

>>16496804
Just have that Steve guy consulting on making long-term shelf life MRE.

Anonymous No. 16496812

>>16496804
Are these people actually retarded?

Anonymous No. 16496813

>>16496810
doesn't count because reasons

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Anonymous No. 16496814

>>16496804
Incorrect.

Anonymous No. 16496815

>>16496799
It really doesn't for LEO, especially considering the high dry mass of the stage.

Anonymous No. 16496816

>>16496804
>There's no pre-cooked MRE type food in existence that is nutritionally complete and has a five-year shelf life
I'm almost sure that's not true

Anonymous No. 16496817

https://x.com/benjiunofficial
nice account anon

Anonymous No. 16496818

>>16496804
>"It's impossible to reach the New World, there's no food that lasts the trip!"

Anonymous No. 16496819

>>16496816
>>16496814
>>16496812
>>16496811
>>16496810
sorry but you guys are wrong
https://ift.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdfdirect/10.1111/j.1750-3841.2010.01982.x

NASA checked and nothing works, guess you won't be going to mars after all :(

Anonymous No. 16496820

>>16496819
see
>>16496818
Send them off with hardtack and multivitamins they'll be fine.

Anonymous No. 16496822

>>16496804
Freeze dried foods have shelf lives in the decades.

Anonymous No. 16496823

>>16496822
doesn't count

Anonymous No. 16496824

>>16496819
People at McMurdo station ate nothing but leftover expired food daily for a prolonged amount of time, just have the food freeze-dried or some shit and they'll be fine.

Anonymous No. 16496825

what they mean is DEI food doesnt survive and food that survives is racist

Anonymous No. 16496826

>>16496824
don't make me say it again >>16496823

Anonymous No. 16496827

>>16496819
>muh nutrition
the entire american population cannot be allowed to go to america

Anonymous No. 16496828

>>16496825
based

Anonymous No. 16496831

>>16496827
>the entire american population
bratty americans need ozempic correction!!!

Anonymous No. 16496834

>>16496831
Free with your order: heart failure!
>if you or a loved one was injured by Ozempic, you may be entitled to financial compensation

Anonymous No. 16496835

>>16496831
we can just bring ozempic to mars. problem solved

Anonymous No. 16496836

>>16496825
And you literally have no rebuttal

Anonymous No. 16496837

>>16496834
ozempic fixes heart failure tho

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Anonymous No. 16496842

>>16496837
See you in 5 years.

Anonymous No. 16496844

>>16496801
It seems not.

Anonymous No. 16496845

>>16496842
it's already been prescribed for 7 years

Anonymous No. 16496846

>>16496842
its been around for years like the other anon said
plus you know what else causes heart failure? being obese

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Anonymous No. 16496847

>>16496801
>NOOOOOO IT DOESN'T COUNT IF YOU EXPAND THE MARKET CAPACITY YOURSELF!!!
>YOU CAN'T JUST CREATE GROWTH WITH NEW TECHNOLOGY AND CAPABILITIES THAT CHANGE THE PARADIGM NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Anonymous No. 16496853

>>16496845
all the millions dead due to vaccine are actually dead due to ozempic

Anonymous No. 16496858

>>16496801
not really
the arguments always seem to escalate quickly as well. To the point now I consider most online Starlink haters to be paid fud or retarded.

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Anonymous No. 16496860

>>16496804
food can last indefinitely if its sealed and frozen
you need heat management systems if you're going to Mars anyway

Anonymous No. 16496862

>Starship lands on moon
>crisp HD feed
>"powered by Starlink" embedded in top right corner
It'll just feel wrong, you know, it's not meant to be that clean and high def

Anonymous No. 16496863

>>16496804
This is oldspace nonsense. You don't need "MRE type food" if you can send an entire kitchen.

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Anonymous No. 16496868

>>16496684
>Send some random British coal miner and they will come back healthier than if they stayed in the mines.
The norf would conquer the stars and rename space "up norf"

Anonymous No. 16496869

>>16496801
They also struggle with the idea that Starship launches will be cheaper for SpaceX to conduct than Falcon 9 launches (well that is the stated goal, and seems doable if they get 2nd stage reuses working fine, which also seems doable after the last few test flights). So SpaceX can use Starship to launch all the other satellites they currently get contracts for and make an even higher profit margin from it.

Anonymous No. 16496872

>>16496819
half of this paper comes down to mass autism
>all the additional processing to remove 10% more moisture to save 200 grams per crewmember per day (less than a ton saved for a 6 crew 2 year mars and back trip)
>vitamin/nutrition losses over time are a problem because you have to strip as much moisture as possible out of your packaged foodstuffs (which also breaks down vitamin content)

Anonymous No. 16496873

>>16496872
doing an apollo mission to mars is completely friggin retarded in the first place

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Anonymous No. 16496874

Someone has to be the first space rapist, and it ought to be me.

Anonymous No. 16496878

>>16496874
Jeff pls

Anonymous No. 16496879

>>16496874
>he doesn't know

Anonymous No. 16496882

>>16496702
no, in this general we are only interested in titan colonization
go back

Anonymous No. 16496884

>>16496874
You’re too late, I’m afraid.

Anonymous No. 16496887

>>16496787
Why is it colored like a chad

Anonymous No. 16496889

>>16496804
Starship is big enough to shut these idiots up.

Anonymous No. 16496891

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1862334414887260409

>Elon is spending Thanksgiving with Trump tonight in Florida.

Anonymous No. 16496894

>>16496891
He should spend it with his sons…

Anonymous No. 16496895

>>16496891
why not spending it with his sons?

Anonymous No. 16496896

New video on the private British space program
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hihn3DXqS10

Anonymous No. 16496897

>>16496891
He should be spending it with me...(his son...)

Anonymous No. 16496898

please do not talk about flight club in the /v/ elon shitpost thread

Anonymous No. 16496899

>>16496891
I hope he brought his sons

Anonymous No. 16496900

>>16496891
how is this spaceflight related?

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Anonymous No. 16496901

>>16496891
Elon x Donald when

Anonymous No. 16496902

>>16496897
*daughter

Anonymous No. 16496903

>>16496901
this post is extremely low quality

Anonymous No. 16496904

>>16496901
>archiveofourown
oh boy, the amount of hours I've spent on that site and fanfiction.net...

Anonymous No. 16496905

>>16496901
this is gay

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Anonymous No. 16496907

Rip out the FAA, root and stem.

Anonymous No. 16496908

A Japanese astronaut flew to the ISS, and he was really scared. Spacefright

Anonymous No. 16496909

>Trump wins
>every space company on the west coast that's actually doing things (i.e. not Astra or Gravitics) ramps up hiring
Get your applications in, anons. 4ASS must rise.

Anonymous No. 16496910

>>16496908
good one, anongpt

Anonymous No. 16496912

>>16496909
I should have bought some RKLB a month ago. I don't know if it's too late now to get in on some decent gains.

Anonymous No. 16496914

>>16496522
Top is AI, bottom has been photoshopped. Soulless.

Anonymous No. 16496915

>>16496912
>RKLB
go back

Anonymous No. 16496918

>>16496915
...in time, to buy more stocks. Yes! That's exactly what I want to do!

Anonymous No. 16496922

>>16496918
Stop being a degenerate, Elon would be disappointed...

Anonymous No. 16496923

>>16496907
Id like Starship to pull on my root and stem if you know what Im saying

Anonymous No. 16496926

>>16496922
Are you going to pay for my ticket out of this planet?

Anonymous No. 16496927

>>16496926
Just go into indentured servitude easy fix

Anonymous No. 16496929

>>16496927
it's not as bad as it sounds

Anonymous No. 16496934

The easiest way to get a ticket to Mars is you sign a contract that you work for basically free other than having your living expenses paid for on the colony where needed (basically slave labor) until the wages that you wouldve made at minimum pay make up for your ticket costs. This is literally just indentured servitude except for more skilled work and likely better conditions than 1600s imports had.

Anonymous No. 16496935

>>16496790
It'll just be eternal goalpost moving. Once they're actually regularly flying to Mars, these guys will just switch to okay they have a colony, but living on Mars sucks. I saw this video on Youtube one day, to be fair I don't know what this dude's stance on self driving cars was before, but he seems to have been proactive about complaining how self driving cars will ruin the ol' walkable cities. Most people still seem to be at the "those things will never work out" stage whenever someone mentions them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=040ejWnFkj0

Anonymous No. 16496936

>>16496934
Quick math, say ticket is $100k to cover the propellant cost + your food cost on the 7 month journey, and minimum wage is $7.50/hr and you work 50 hour work weeks every week of the year, you pay off that ticket in about 5 years time. Not too shabby to move to another planet, though ticket prices will likely be higher and you could also literally just sell all your posessions on Earth, $20k is the equivalent of 1 year of work. If its $250k per ticket, then thats about 13 years of work under someone elses jurisdiction.

Anonymous No. 16496938

>>16496936
Ok now do the math again, but this time, don't forget the taxes and interest.

Anonymous No. 16496941

>>16496938
You do it. I said quick math, faglet. You can do that shit

Anonymous No. 16496943

sfg - Slaves of Felon General

Anonymous No. 16496944

What if they send an astronaut to Mars and halfway through the initial 6 month journey there they get MeToo'd? Do you think they'd just go through with it anyway or would they cuck out and force them to return to Earth without landing so that people won't say the first person to step on Mars was a rapist?

Anonymous No. 16496945

>>16496943
Temporary slaves*

Anonymous No. 16496947

>>16496944
Why bother thinking about things that will never happen?

Anonymous No. 16496949

>>16496947
You're naive if you think something like this couldn't happen, especially if the politicization of space accelerates further.

Anonymous No. 16496950

How does the ISS purify braps? Also I want to see a fully automated farm system that takes the shit from the 0G toilet and puts it directly into the hydroponics farms

Anonymous No. 16496951

>>16496944
okay, shitposting aside, your post makes me wonder about a pretty realistic scenario: someone having a psychological meltdown during the trip or while on the surface. You know it's going to happen eventually. I suppose Starship should have enough Dv to make a flyby around Mars and then return to Earth orbit, be it LEO, highly-elliptical, etc. in case they decided to abort the mission while on route.

Anonymous No. 16496952

>>16496949
For the first man to Mars it wont happen therefore Im not thinking about or answering stupid questions on it. After, just send them to the Phobosian penal colony

Anonymous No. 16496953

>don't forget the taxes and interest
ticket copers are the worst
they don't want you

the only people they want are those whose talent demands appropriate compensation, experts, professionals
not tourists and refugees fleeing a problem they created in the first place

you can't paypig your way to Mars, and if this becomes fact it will spell doom for the entire project
that's the fastest way to absolutely ruin any potential colony, richfags throwing monopoly money around are the bane of Earth and they will kill Mars too if you let them

Anonymous No. 16496954

>>16496945
indentured servant

Anonymous No. 16496955

>>16496951
Crewed starships will have dedicated brigs.

Anonymous No. 16496956

>>16496953
I would have welding skills and work in mechanical engineering for a decade or two likely in the Starship program if all goes well, am I gonna make it? I would also have some moolah stockpiled

Anonymous No. 16496957

>>16496955
the big question is where do we put the mars penal colony? Marstralia

Anonymous No. 16496958

>>16496953
You sound like a communist or one of thise anti-capitalist troons. Who do you think is making the entirety of Mars living possible? Thats right the guy at the top of the heap of richfags. You think richfags going to Mars is a bad thing when that would pump massive money into the local economy and further goals of becoming independent. Youre just a retard that doesnt look at the big picture, take a course on macroeconomics and stay on Earth.

Anonymous No. 16496959

>>16496956
idk man, there will be a need for qualified construction crews to build necessary infrastructure to even begin setting up in the first place
maybe it could be done robotically, but these units have their limits and will need maintenance that I struggle to imagine happening without a human operator in the near future

here's my general thrust
if you want to use Mars as a base to develop technologies that would get the "SHUT IT DOWN" treatment on Earth, the VERY LAST thing you would want to do is let the people responsible for this mentality and embedded interests simply buy their way there

Anonymous No. 16496960

>>16496958
>pump massive money into the local economy

nobody needs your fake fucking fiat toilet paper funbux
they need skill sets, commodities, etc

Anonymous No. 16496961

>>16496960
all of that can be acquired with capital, communist scum

Anonymous No. 16496962

>>16496959
>>16496953
Back to /leftypol/, troon. You can have skilled workers AND investors imported, both drive economies ane Martian independence. Your communist utopia isnt happening on Mars any less than it is on Earth. Your axe wounds stench can be detected from 100 feet away.

Anonymous No. 16496963

>there is a literal communist trying to pitch the communist utopia workers owning muh means of production mars as we speak
glad /sfg/ sniffed this fag out QUICK, good work fellas.

Anonymous No. 16496964

>>16496961
no, you need labor to procure these basic goods
there's no place for the parasite leech do-nothing ownership class, sitting on their hands accumulating interest or leaning on the money printer button to keep their fake economy afloat for another election cycle

really making things work is not about throwing money at it
example, the untold billions of dollars wasted to lay fiber optic cable for rural people who need internet
nothing has been done
meanwhile, because SpaceX has cultivated TALENT and INFRASTRUCTURE they can already provide high speed internet through Starlink units

Anonymous No. 16496965

>>16496957
Thats called Phobos. Or just throw them in the Olympus Mons caldera

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Anonymous No. 16496966

>>16496882
Based TITANEAN

Anonymous No. 16496967

>>16496964
THEY DID THAT BECAUSE THEY HAD A FUCKING BILLIONAIRE BACKING THEM AND SHIT TONS OF OTHER PRIVATE INVESTORS THAT HELPED THEM THROUGH THE EALRY PERIOD OF UNPROFITABILITY YOU DUMB FUCK YOU NEED INVESTORS TO GET YOU THROUGH THE EALRY PERIOD OF INSTABILITY IN THESE RISKY INVESTMENTS GOD YOU KNOW FUCKING NOTHING BUT YOUR KARL MARX PROGRAMMING FUCK OFF COMMIE TROON
>inb4 seethe about all caps
i didnt want to turn off capslock

Anonymous No. 16496968

>>16496962
>>16496963
>investors imported

why
if the investors aren't working, they literally do not need to be there
investors aren't a useful commodity on Mars, so they do not need to be imported
simple as, they can sit back on Earth where they belong and reap the benefit of the patents from the inventions made as a result of the Mars project
paypig richfags are mad because what I say is true

>communist utopia
you have absolutely no idea what I believe

Anonymous No. 16496972

>>16496968
>why
do you expect people that start new companies to just hope the randoms they hire overseas to run things well, or that their workers wont just slack off and collect paychecks. why do you think everyone in business hates employees working from home.

Anonymous No. 16496973

>>16496967
>muh fiat

central bank fellating harlot
the precious metals we can procure from the asteroid belt will be worth infinitely more than your precious monopoly money because we can actually USE them for things

Anonymous No. 16496974

>>16496972
>their workers wont just slack off and collect paychecks
Investors of the kind you speak of are the MOST likely to be slackers, since they think their obligations are covered by their investment.

These are your eaters, your liabilities in a Martian context.
They are the ones most likely to skirt psychological profiling that would otherwise weed them out, because people are corrupt and they have the funds to pay them off.
What this means effectively is that these ticket purchasers, these people who bought their commission and rank, are singularly the most likely to be unstable.
The people who are going to be doing the necessary work on Mars will do these things right because their lives depend on it.

>everyone in business hates employees working from home
Their home is Mars, temporarily or not.
That's why they're there.
FFS, for them there's no difference between home and work. God damn.

Anonymous No. 16496975

>commie fell for the asteroid mining meme
way to expose yourself. i bet you idolize tyson chicken nuggets too

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Anonymous No. 16496976

>>16496923
what did he mean by this?

Anonymous No. 16496977

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>YUO CANNOT JUST INCREASE THE SUPPLY OF PRECIOUS METALS BY TOWING A BIG SPACE ROCK INTO NEO
>MY INVESTMENTS WOULD LOSE VALUE

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Anonymous No. 16496978

>>16496977

Anonymous No. 16496980

>>16496977
its literally cheaper to just mine it on earth

Anonymous No. 16496981

>>16496977
What is supply and demand

Anonymous No. 16496984

>>16496977
who are you quoting

Anonymous No. 16496988

>>16496981
something that is disrupted when the supply of a given commodity increases dramatically

case in point, the crash in the price of gold wreckig the economy after the Spanish colonization of the Americas resulted in a glut of the metal
it's worth noting that the price of gold increases as a function of the printing of paper money

>>16496980
for now maybe
that's going to change

Anonymous No. 16496996

>>16496988
>that's going to change
even starship won't make it cheaper

Anonymous No. 16497010

>earth mining will be cheap for half a century but my crystal ball of future sight says that after that aliens will use their alien tech to make it cheaper

Anonymous No. 16497013

>>16496929
It's a simple plan, just agree for you and your progeny to become a servitor clan on Mars and all expenses are paid

Anonymous No. 16497014

>>16496957
Criminals, hooligans, and ne'er-do-wells will serve their sentence in the Ice Mines.

Anonymous No. 16497022

anons ITT advocating for the imporation of richfag overseers to Mars unironically think they're the overseer in this equation
they want their indentured servant underlings to do all the work for them just because they paid for a ticket, sit back with their feet up giving meaningless orders all day, lazing about in their pods whilst robomommy makes them tendies and hotpockets

who needs to actually qualify and provide real services to the colony when you could just pay to play then sit around on your ass instead
lmao
as if they aren't getting airlocked by the real Martians whose skills are indispensable to colony operations
oh no, was there a little accident and coincidental electrical short meaning the surveilance equipment failed
oops, these things happen
and nothing of value was lost

oversight responsibility belongs to command and control, through communications section liaison, neither of which are available for purchase by anyone who does not meet qualification standards
sns
if you don't want your space employees being lazy because you aren't physically present to lash them, bother to hire people who will fulfil the terms of their contract in the first place
nobody needs you to micromanage colony operations, because you don't have the chops for it and will endanger the lives of personnel who are already at risk in a dangerous environment

Anonymous No. 16497025

>>16497022
I can smell the means of production bullshit in your words here. You literally just chudified your lingo to fit /sfg/ to advocate for communism on Mars and everyone saw through you. All of us here if we go would be the workers and not the investor, even then everyone knows capitalism is better than communism. Go convince your redditor friends you are talking to a brick wall.

Anonymous No. 16497027

>I think people should be paid fairly for their work, and any functional society has a compensatory exchange system of service and privileges. An independent Martian community will have to have these same basic obligations, and replacing this dynamic with nothing more than Earther fiat money will end badly.

COMMUNIST REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous No. 16497028

>>16496804
Even if that was true, why can't they just calculate the human nutritional needs and make a near perfect mixture of chemicals that fulfills them? Like what Soilent tried to do, but for real.

Anonymous No. 16497032

>>16497027
you can try to disguise your walls of text, but at the end of the day its commie bullshit yes

Anonymous No. 16497034

>>16496714
I don't think niggers should be allowed, if that's what you mean.

Anonymous No. 16497035

>>16496714
>only racist apartheid
No ESL too

Anonymous No. 16497037

>>16497032
Literally the only people I've ever heard defend fiat currency are communists, socialists, or bankers.
And you're one of them.
It follows that the only reason you react so negatively is because I am talking about patents and contracts, duties, precious metals, etc.
Classic case of someone accusing you of what they're guilty of.

Anonymous No. 16497039

>>16497037
Denounce Das Kapital

Anonymous No. 16497041

>if you defend capitalism, youre a communist
brainlet logic

Anonymous No. 16497042

"capitalism" is a communist buzzword
not a real ideology or economic system
you've elevated a hostile strawman as your idol

Anonymous No. 16497043

>NOOOOO YOU CANT MENTION CAPITALISM WHEN TALKING ABOUT COMMUNISM BECAUSE MY AXE WOUND STARTS TO ACHE
fucking jobless troon comrade. im so glad you will never be in a position of leadership and especially will never go to mars. hows the weather in portland btw i hope its terrible

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16497046

let me guess, you learned about "capitalism" existing as something people actually ever believed in from the public school system and how it's diametrically opposed to communism
how it's the system you currently live under, and that you enjoy a "free market"

and never stopped to think maybe the long march through the institutions ever reached you personally, or that price fixing, ridiculously massive and corrupt subsidies, and total government dominance of the market has been instituted for about a century now
what a poor deluded sap you are, continue worshiping the Federal Reserve as they rob you blind and force their debt on you

Anonymous No. 16497049

>>16497046
And there it is. Thanks for playing bud, make sure to use yoru dilator daily and good luck trying to convince >>>/pol/

Anonymous No. 16497050

>point out that only communists use the word "capitalism" unironically
>/sfg/ shits itself and starts screeching about trannies

sad
many such cases

Anonymous No. 16497051

>guys im totally a normal /sfg/ poster listen to my ideas on martian governance
>*blatant communism*
>fuck off commie
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CANT SAY THAT
>lol capitalism good
>NOOOOOOOO YOURE THE COMMUNIST

Anonymous No. 16497052

/sfg/ - Screeching Faggots General
you're all going on the no-Mars list, niggers. And I ever see you there you there, you'll be getting the airlock treatment.

Anonymous No. 16497061

/sfg/ - socalism finance general

Anonymous No. 16497070

Elon is a self confessed socialist. Mars base will be a socialist utopia. If it were capitalist, people would have to pay for their oxygen. I bet that's how bezos would run a Mars colony.

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Anonymous No. 16497075

>>16497070
reminder that you can't have a mars colony until after you first reach earth orbit

Anonymous No. 16497087

I'll gladly be an amazon courier on Mars for less than minimum wage.

Anonymous No. 16497092

>>16497075
Direct Ascent architecture when?

Anonymous No. 16497099

there are things you cannot buy with money
a ticket to Mars is one of them
deal with it

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16497102

You're stuck in a Mars hydroponics pod together for 6 hours whilst engineers fix the doors. It's sound proof and there are no windows. How do you proceed?

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16497104

>>16496183
Landspace actually used to have some contract with british and italian companies
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-04/26/c_138013404.htm

Doubt it's still a thing tho.
A lot of the early fundraising of the chinese newpace launcher companies, roughly before 2020, actually came from the west.

Anonymous No. 16497107

>>16496183
Landspace actually used to have some contract with british and italian companies
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-04/26/c_138013404.htm

Doubt it's still a thing tho.
A lot of the early fundraising of the chinese newpace launcher companies, roughly before 2020, actually came from the west.

Considering how the first chinese newspace launchers were made, it was basically western companies funding commercial LV applications of surplus chinese ICBM solid rockets.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16497108

>>16497102
>casually take shirt off

Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you okay? Wake up.
Stand up.
There you go, you were dreaming.
What's your name?

Well, not even last night's storm could wake you.
I've heard them say we've reached Morrowind, I'm sure they'll let us go.
Quiet, here comes the guard.
>This is where you get off, come with me.
You better do what they say.

>???
profit

Anonymous No. 16497109

>>16497108
hot

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Anonymous No. 16497110

>>16497108
Fuck off Todd

Anonymous No. 16497111

on a more serious note I get serious Red Mountain vibes from the dust storms on Mars

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Anonymous No. 16497120

>>16496689
It's cool.

Anonymous No. 16497125

>>16496934
>>16496936
Labor will be scarce enough that a company might cover the cost of the flight entirely. Also, the cost of everything on Mars with be super high due to operating conditions and shipping cost. This will extend to the labor market. You'll make $1000/hour but a bowl of ramen will be $600. Point is though Mars side wealth will make paying for an earth side obligation very easy.

Anonymous No. 16497126

>>16496973
>communist is an asteroid mining fag
same level of understanding of economics kek

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Anonymous No. 16497134

>>16497111
Dagoth Ur shall free the red planet from the offworld invaders

Anonymous No. 16497135

>>16497126
you not being allowed to paypig your way to Mars is not the same thing as communism

nobody owes you shit just because you can make printer go brrrrrr

Anonymous No. 16497139

>>16497102
He's unironically a convincing tranny face wise. You can always tell a tranny is a man by their face but this is quite hard for him.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16497140

>>16497102
sexooo plap plap plap get pregnant get pregnant!

Anonymous No. 16497141

Oi nerds
When starship lands on Mars (suppose a full refuelling in Earth orbit before it sets off) does it have enough propellant left to 1) get into mars orbit, 2) enough to set it on a course back to earth, 3) land back on earth? i.e. is ISRU a dealbreaker?

Anonymous No. 16497142

>>16497139
>he

Anonymous No. 16497144

>>16497141
1 yes
2 and 3 no

Anonymous No. 16497146

>>16497141
you can just bring extra starships that are tankers

Anonymous No. 16497148

>>16497144
Thanks
So a followup on that - is there any feasibility to refuelling in mars orbit with tankers from Earth which could avoid need for ISRU? Or would the tankers just not have the margin to deliver much fuel, even if they are sent on suicide missions and give up all their fuel to the returning starship? They would have to slow themselves down into Mars orbit without landing which may or may not be possible I guess

Anonymous No. 16497149

>>16497146
Yeah I think simply yeeting a few tankers is preferable to ISRU, at least early on, if at all possible.

Anonymous No. 16497150

>>16497148
Probably but you'd need a lot of suicide ships.

Anonymous No. 16497151

>>16497150
ISRU is a PITA though so the cost would be similar and not guaranteed to work well, depends on of they can get a reliable source of water
Interested to see how this fits in with Elon's timelines for a human mission because there doesn't seem to be an easy solution

Anonymous No. 16497158

Robotics and all the motors hydraulics etc on KSP breaking ground is awesome, so much fun.

Anonymous No. 16497160

>>16497151
>ISRU is a PITA though so the cost would be similar
Not in the long term which is how you have to think if your making a colony.

Anonymous No. 16497165

>>16497135
Elon has said he's selling tickets. That's really the end of the discussion.

Anonymous No. 16497168

Imagine being Elon's son. I'm a brainlet so I'd take being a security guard or cleaner for space x. Imagine if you were smart and his son. Holy shit.

Anonymous No. 16497169

>>16497165
He's arguing with reality more than he is comparing the cases. Clearly seething that he can't afford a ticket. It doesn't make sense why he's so passionate though. The alternative would be some kind of selection process, and he'd obviously be filtered by the mental health screening

Anonymous No. 16497181

>>16497151
ISRU is mandatory and the point is to create a permanent colony, not a one off boots-on-the-ground mission

Anonymous No. 16497203

Sir Lewis Hamilton says he wants to go to another planet, Tim Dodd provides him a lecture about Starship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ch5V6CxVBU

Anonymous No. 16497216

>>16497160
>>16497181
I know but Elon is talking about going there with humans in 4 years
There's simply no way that is possible by the sounds of it unless it is 1-way for now

Anonymous No. 16497221

>>16497135
Net worth is a direct measure of one's ability to create value. Selling tickets at a market-determined rate is clearly the most efficient solution to selecting for those with both the abilities and the willingness to build a Martian city.

Anonymous No. 16497225

>>16497203
>massively into space
>doesnt know the nameof the saturn v or its scale relative to starship
this is the depth of knowledge that qualifies a normie as being massively into something btw.

Anonymous No. 16497227

strap me to a rocket and point it at Mars. My body is ready.

Anonymous No. 16497229

>>16497216
?
of course its 1 way
When did he ever say anything else? We are going to mars...

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Anonymous No. 16497231

>>16497225
>Lewis flies in a Starship
>A New Glen is launching at the same time
>New Glen is faster and starts getting into orbit before Lewis
>Lewis crashes the Starship into NG so neither win

Anonymous No. 16497234

>>16497225
Hobbies are fashion statements, nothing more. Social brained normies spend their time socialising irl or online. No time to actually learn a topic. Also no desire.

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Anonymous No. 16497236

>"Saturn Five?"
>"That's a planet, right?"

Anonymous No. 16497237

I'm really into motorsport, I got to sit in the car, the what do you call it
F1
Yeah F1 car yeah it was cool

Anonymous No. 16497238

>>16497203
Genuinely embarrassing interview. He has absolutely no fucking clue about anything space related.

Anonymous No. 16497239

>>16497238
Are you saying that because he's black?

Anonymous No. 16497249

>>16497239
No, I'm saying that because he's Br*ish

Anonymous No. 16497251

>>16497239
https://youtu.be/RINHjxsPOEg

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Anonymous No. 16497252

>>16497238
The part where Tim started talking about warp drives to Lewis Hamilton for five minutes felt like a fever dream

Anonymous No. 16497255

>>16497249
how could bl&ck be british

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Anonymous No. 16497256

hopp wn?

Anonymous No. 16497257

>>16497225
Count yourself lucky if you’ve never been exposed to the massive amount of bullshit that Lewis Hamilton spews before. Absolutely hilarious he thinks he has what it takes to be a astronaut

Anonymous No. 16497261

>>16497255
They're not, just living someplace and wearing their accent doesn't make you one of them.

Anonymous No. 16497262

>>16496804
>NASA doesn't know about basic bitch canned food
PATHETIC
ACTUALLY LITERALLY PATHETIC

Anonymous No. 16497264

>>16497229
In the past he talked about people having the option to come back if they want
Is this no longer the case? To be fair this was a while ago

Anonymous No. 16497266

>>16497264
yes starships are coming back... you can come back if you would like..

Anonymous No. 16497270

>>16497229
when did he even say that it was one way? As far as I know, the current plan is to send the first crew with the goal of setting up the propellant plant, so that they have the chance of fuelling up the ships, and then coming back some months later. Of course, this depends on the ISRU setup working on the first try, otherwise they are gonna be "stuck" there until the next launch window.

Anonymous No. 16497274

>>16497270
Unless they decide at the last minute to send some additional starships containing just methane, and oxygen (beats me how they are gonna keep it insulated and cool). Another option is bringing lots of hydrogen instead, just in case, so that they can use it along with the co2 from the atmosphere to get ch4 and water (sabatier).

Anonymous No. 16497277

>>16494691
I miss the old /sfg/, here is too much offtopic [math]\unicode{x1F62D}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F62D}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F62D}[/math]

Anonymous No. 16497282

>>16497257
Redpill me on his bullshit spewing? I used to admire the guy whe he was a new upstart on the Mclaren F1 team but never saw interviews because I was like 10 years old at the time.

Anonymous No. 16497283

>>16497274
???
Thats not an option, if there is no water access on mars you can just die there and give up on the whole thing

>>16497270
its mars colonization, why would return be part of any sort of plan ?

Anonymous No. 16497285

Which moons are worthy of being called planets?

>Luna
>Galilean moons
>Titan
>Triton

That's it right? All of these are planets to me and I will call them that.

Anonymous No. 16497287

>>16497285
what planet is Galilean sir ?

Anonymous No. 16497289

>>16497283
It would be part of the plan to incentivise people to go there
Going there knowing it is one way with no chance of return, even if you want to go with the aim to stay there, is quite unpalatable to people
Also getting set up will be much easier if we can send some temporary teams to set some thing to work and then bring them back

Anonymous No. 16497290

>>16497028
I always wondered why athletese arent fed a perfect chemical mix rather than conventional food. When I asked teachers as a kid they would always just get mad at me and not explain why.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 16497292

Rumors are swirling about these two.... did elon take or give?

Anonymous No. 16497293

>>16497292
Elon is based so he fucked Kai.

Anonymous No. 16497294

>>16497292
>If only you knew how bad things really are...

Anonymous No. 16497295

>>16497290
Because they have access to normal fresh foods, which isn't when you are in space moving at ~20 km/s.

Anonymous No. 16497303

>>16497295
but you have greater control over their intake if you dont use foods. everything else is hyper optimised apart from the nutritional intake which is just random premade foods deemed to be healthier than others

Anonymous No. 16497305

>>16497283
>return be part of any sort of plan
elon has repeatedly said over the years that there's always the option of coming back, that this is not just a one-way trip.
>no water access on mars
by the time that the crew is on route, a good landing spot with significant presence of underground water/ice should have been chosen. if it's decided that satellite analysis is not good enough for measuring exact water composition, then there is the option of sending scouting rovers in the uncrewed ships one launch window before. of course, this would be the wise choice, but knowing spacex and elon, they might as well skip the rovers, or not waste any more launch windows trying to get everything 100% perfect before the crew arrival.

Anonymous No. 16497310

>>16497028
Why not cut out the stomach and intestines and just infuse the needed stuff wherever the interface is between stomach/intestines and the rest of the body? Would probably save some mass

Anonymous No. 16497311

>>16497310
I don't think we have the tech for that yet. And the astronauts probably wouldn't enjoy that. People still like eating food.

Anonymous No. 16497322

>>16497028
trust the plan anon, elon will eventually disrupt the food industry as well

Anonymous No. 16497323

>>16497285
Titania's roughly in the same order of magnitude of mass as Pluto.

Anonymous No. 16497325

>>16497285
The ones that are round, that includes Dysnomia of course.

Anonymous No. 16497326

>>16497305
my point is, there will be no consideration among people going there for returning, certainly not at the beginning, unless for health issues or something

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Anonymous No. 16497343

So we're gonna see Starship industry in the next decade right?

Starship fuel depot
Starship rocket launcher
Starship habitat for moon/mars/leo
Starship labs
Starship transport system from orbit to orbit
Starship telescope

Anonymous No. 16497345

>>16496901
god's righteous judgment on homosexuals when

Anonymous No. 16497346

>>16497343
>puerto rico flag

Anonymous No. 16497348

>>16497343
Ara araship

Anonymous No. 16497351

>>16497345
It can wait until after Peter Theil and Tom Mueller die.

Anonymous No. 16497354

>>16497323
Titania is just a rock.

Anonymous No. 16497358

>>16497282
He has a gigantic ego yet pretends to be humble, every ounce of his success has gone to his head, he lies constantly like about being interested in space, he complains all the fucking time during races about how shit his car is while his teammate wins the race in the same thing. He completely lacks the competency required to be an astronaut

Anonymous No. 16497362

>>16497346
That’s Ohio dumbass

Anonymous No. 16497365

>>16497343
People will complain that SpaceX has a monopoly and not acknowledge that they're the only spaceflight organisation that aren't completely fucking useless at this point

Anonymous No. 16497369

>>16497365
By 2030 there should be one or two other organizations that are competitive with 2023ish spacex.

Anonymous No. 16497372

>>16497369
name 5

Anonymous No. 16497374

>>16497362
aka the cuckeye state
they voted kasich

Anonymous No. 16497376

>>16497369
If Starship works then let's just fucking use it. They didn't fuck about making useless alternatives to the Saturn V to be "fair" or whatever. These other companies making shit rockets have already lost. Cover some other part of the spaceflight industry. The undercover aliens on our planet must be LMAOing @ our ass backwards technological progress

Anonymous No. 16497379

>>16497372
Firefly, ABL, RFA, Stoke, Astra

Anonymous No. 16497382

>>16497379
none of those companies will be doing 100 heavy lift launches a year
3-4 of them won't even exist

Anonymous No. 16497385

>>16497369
There wont be any company other than SpaceX that will be doing 100+ launches in 2023. At best maybe 20-30 launches from one company.

Anonymous No. 16497387

>>16497354
You're just a rock.

Anonymous No. 16497391

>>16497382
Good thing I was shitposting and the actual entities in the running are rocketlab, BO, and ISRO.
I won’t hear /sfg/ fud. Rocketlab and blue could well be launching 50+ heavy lift rockets in 2030, ISRO probably won’t top 15 flights a year but they should be launching humans by then.

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Anonymous No. 16497395

sparky

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16497400

>>16497395
Rape. Now.

Anonymous No. 16497401

>>16497372
If competitive with 2023SX you mean launch roughly 1000 ton to orbit (the mass that SX sent to orbit in 2023), with a strong satellite manufacturing capability

Certainly:
BO (that's "just" the medium term plan of 24 NG a year)
CASC

Possibly Rocket lab and Landspace+Hongqing if they get their way, both will probably field Medium RLV at the same time and both have proven satellite manufacturing capability with ambitious plans.

Other than that not much possibility
Stoke has potential for >100 launch rate by then but launcher too small and won't reach 1000t to orbit, also no plan of satellite manufacturing.
Can't see Relativity surviving, Firefly will probably survive through NG, the remaining main Chinese launcher companies will survive better but by default no single one will compare, landspace is the potential exception since they have their own large scale sat production plans that they're already flying rn.

ULA (Vulcan only by then) and Arianegroup (Ariane+Maia)'s most ambitious plan is still only around 500t a year. ULA doesn't make satellites and AG not meaningfully so, european space industry won't be able to make enough satellites.

None of european, korean, indian, japanese smallsat launcher have launcher large enough by 2030.

Russian and Indian space by that point may compare (sat production and launch capability) to 2020-2021SX, not 2023.

By that point SX will be launching between 10k and 100k tons to orbit.

Anonymous No. 16497402

https://www.thespaceshow.com/show/12-nov-2024/broadcast-4290-eric-roesch-esg-hound
Starbase is founded in original sin

Anonymous No. 16497405

>>16497369
SpaceX has a monopoly on talent.

Anonymous No. 16497414

>>16497402
Musk Derangement Syndrome on display.

Anonymous No. 16497416

>>16497402
I'm not watching an hour and a half podcast of esghound seething, is there a transcript?

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Anonymous No. 16497418

>>16497346
>>16497362

Anonymous No. 16497425

>>16497405
SpaceX talent burns out after a few years then the rest of the industry gets them for a big raise and 70% of the hours worked.

Anonymous No. 16497427

>>16496427
I sometimes clarify with "Elon's new Space Shuttle" if I want to rustle some jimmies

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Anonymous No. 16497429

Why does spaceguy5 follow this loli porn artist publicly?
https://x.com/anshindack

Anonymous No. 16497431

>>16497429
Turns out even idiots can be men of culture

Anonymous No. 16497433

>>16497429
One of us!

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Anonymous No. 16497434

>>16497429
BASADO
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Anonymous No. 16497437

>>16497429
wtf no way??!

basedguy5 more like

Anonymous No. 16497438

>>16497429
not as bad as Mack being horny on main desu

Anonymous No. 16497439

>>16496842
You know what the #1 cause of heart disease, and in turn the #1 cause of death of Americans is? Obesity you fat fuck

Anonymous No. 16497440

>>16497429
umm, based????

Anonymous No. 16497441

>>16497429
His reply is MTL isn't it

Anonymous No. 16497442

>>16495590
Dumbest post in thread
Hopefully you're joking, but it isn't funny

Anonymous No. 16497443

>>16497429
There's nothing wrong with following a loli porn artist, unless you're a deranged redditor

Anonymous No. 16497444

>>16497429
All previous 8 replies are samefagged

Anonymous No. 16497446

>>16497442
Dumbest poster in thread
Hopefully you're pretending, but it isn't convincing

Anonymous No. 16497447

All previous 997 replies are samefagged.

Anonymous No. 16497448

>>16497221
>Net worth is a direct measure of one's ability to create value.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
no
delusional richfags unironically believe their fiat funbux mean they're better people than others because they do not understand virtue
some of the most retarded and vile people I've ever met had lots of money, big houses, lots of expensive belongings
criminals and drug dealers make lots of money, pimps and human traffickers make dosh you wouldn't believe
is the Sinaloa Cartel suddenly a net positive for society just because they have billions of dollars
meanwhile people who do things that are actually most crucial for modern society to have some semblance of functionality, line workers, truckers, construction crews, plenty of them are barely scraping by because an extractive ownership class has artificially inflated the cost of living
pencil pushers, lawyers and bureaucrats working for the feds usually make more than them, and are actively a net negative and dragging everyone else down by imposing a labyrinthine system of stifling regulations and artificial barriers that only they are allowed to navigate

lmao you're simply wrong and do not understand what is truly valuable or how our financial system rewards corruption and those who are most willing to play ball so to speak
get some perspective
nobody thinks you're useful to society at large just because you have a six figure salary

Anonymous No. 16497450

>>16497448
>delusional richfags unironically believe their fiat funbux
stopped reading right there

Anonymous No. 16497452

>regular /sfg/ threads now gets as many posts as a Starship sticky

Anonymous No. 16497453

>>16496219
Plus the original rhymes and is composed of ten lines of ten characters each.

Anonymous No. 16497454

Before we hit page 10, everyone state your (You) count for this thread. I got 45 hits

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Anonymous No. 16497455

>>16496619
NIGGER

Anonymous No. 16497456

>>16497452
>3 days ago
>:skull

Anonymous No. 16497457

>>16497454
>1007

Anonymous No. 16497458

>>16497454
14, but two of those are from the fuck you poster. My posts are so garbage anons don't even bother replying to them ;_;

Anonymous No. 16497459

>>16496620
you need:
1. a space shuttle
2. ion thruster module for stationkeeping
less solar panels, you should not have quadrilateral symmetry on your solar panels
aside from that it seems exactly as stupid and pointless as every other space station

Anonymous No. 16497461

>>16497454
32

Anonymous No. 16497462

>>16497458
Point some of them out

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Anonymous No. 16497464

before stage reminder that PoE2 coming out next week

Anonymous No. 16497465

>>16496332
It’s possible you read it again in the meantime

Anonymous No. 16497466

>>16497463
Hold on, Clear! You can make it!

Anonymous No. 16497467

>>16496333
I believe the same company is working on a fully reusable stack to correct that issue.

Anonymous No. 16497468

>>16497458
Also there are multiple fuck you posters

Anonymous No. 16497469

>>16497462
oh, so you learn about my posting habits? I don't think so, fed.

Anonymous No. 16497472

>>16497469
If I were a fed I could just ask 4chan for all the info on you.

Anonymous No. 16497474

>>16497454
>>16497457
>>16497461
>>16497458
>counting replies
Are you guys that lonely?

Anonymous No. 16497475

>>16496370
A cape could be useful as insulation, right?

Anonymous No. 16497478

>>16497472
yeah, but where's the fun in that?
>>16497474
Yes. You may call it practice for the 6 month journey.

Anonymous No. 16497479

>>16497474
No Ive been busy at families house and studying for finals with roommates theres just nothing else to talk about in spess rn.

Anonymous No. 16497480

>2 sois interviewing each other

kek

Anonymous No. 16497481

>>16497475
a radiator. Make the cape a radiator, then you can stop worrying about heat and paint your suit whatever the fuck you want instead of the goyslop white.

Anonymous No. 16497483

>third soi wants some attention too


haha

Anonymous No. 16497487

>>16497481
You can't just skin Redditors and turn them into capes, anon.

Anonymous No. 16497489

I'm talking about >>16496619

Anonymous No. 16497491

>fourth soi being annoying for attention
rmao

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>5th soi just chilling

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>sext soi is a clearposter

Anonymous No. 16497497

>7th soi is hungry af

Anonymous No. 16497498

>>16497487
oh look at that, the fun police arrived

Anonymous No. 16497499

>>16497474
ctrl+f "(you)", no counting necessary

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Anonymous No. 16497500

Anonymous No. 16497501

>No posts are currently quoting you, loser.

Anonymous No. 16497502

>>16497500
lmaooo some1 send this to Elon he gon' love it

Anonymous No. 16497504

>>16497500
caught u elon :)

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Anonymous No. 16497505

Anonymous No. 16497506

>>16497505
i fw it

Anonymous No. 16497507

>>16497505
2017 BFR was the only one with wings right?
2016 didn't,2018-2019 had airbrake-flaps-legs and later only airbrake-flaps

Anonymous No. 16497511

>>16496977
Why bring it to Earth? Earth is the one place we already have too much mass.

Anonymous No. 16497512

>>16497492
Fuck off furfag.

Anonymous No. 16497515

>implying

Anonymous No. 16497518

>>16497441
Yes, or he thinks he can speak Japanese. But probably the former.

Anonymous No. 16497522

>>16496907
>Not anymore
>Proceeds to spend 2+ months not launching
What did he mean by this?

Anonymous No. 16497523

grow up

Anonymous No. 16497524

>>16497448
The market is an IQ test. You failed

Anonymous No. 16497526

>>16497500
lolled

Anonymous No. 16497530

grim

Anonymous No. 16497532

>>16497522
launch what? the ship is not ready

Anonymous No. 16497534

page 10 is never going to happen, if you are reading this you are actually in purgatory

Anonymous No. 16497537

>>16497534
that explains a lot, I certainly feel dead

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Anonymous No. 16497539

Russians accidentally leaked hypergolic propellant onto the station

Anonymous No. 16497541

>>16497539
the absolute state of roscosmos

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Anonymous No. 16497542

>>16497539
Quick, find a woman to blame!

Anonymous No. 16497545

>>16497539
why are they fucking like this

Anonymous No. 16497547

>>16496714
starship centaur please

Anonymous No. 16497548

>>16497539
holy fuck I hate snowniggers. Comical levels of incompetence

Anonymous No. 16497549

who will bring down ISS faster, spacex or russians?

Anonymous No. 16497550

>>16497549
I thought wanted to keep their old junk, with blackjack, hookers and vodka.

Anonymous No. 16497552

>>16497539
Isn't this poisonous? Isn't the fact that they're breathing this in an enclosed space a huge fucking problem?

Anonymous No. 16497556

>>16497549
Only Felon Husk wants to scam American taxpayers to destroy the symbol of international institutions that is the ISS.

Anonymous No. 16497557

how could a system be designed to leak propellant inside

Anonymous No. 16497558

>>16497557
Russians.

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Anonymous No. 16497560

>>16497539
Yes, this is the Russia that is developing new rockets and a space station, we promise-ski!

Anonymous No. 16497562

>>16497552
as far as I can tell the nitrogen tetroxide is worse than the UDMH and can be fatal at 50 ppm

Anonymous No. 16497565

>>16497557
make the system really enjoy the sensation of leaking inside so it doesn't want to pull out

Anonymous No. 16497568

https://youtu.be/zttqkhUYVNs
soyuz with faggot upper stage launching in 37 minutes

Anonymous No. 16497572

>>16497552
https://www.russianspaceweb.com/progress-ms-29.html#spill
They resealed the hatch right after opening it and activated air filtration systems on both the American and Russian segments to screen out any contaminants. Air quality registered as normal the next day and unloading cargo began the day after that.

Anonymous No. 16497574

>>16497568
It's nice seeing another launch out of Vostochny

Anonymous No. 16497580

>>16497454
1000, you're all just figments of my schizophrenic mind /sfg/ doesn't exist when I sleep

Anonymous No. 16497589

>>16496819
skill issue

Anonymous No. 16497590

>>16497568
T-5:00

Anonymous No. 16497591

>>16496874
the Russians were there first

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Anonymous No. 16497593

>>16497568
зaпycк!

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Anonymous No. 16497594

Anonymous No. 16497595

>>16497236
No he means Rhea, the fifth moon of Saturn

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Anonymous No. 16497598

>the mouse cursor in middle screen

Anonymous No. 16497602

>>16497598
Russia also sends their "video" footage in individual jpg images.

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Anonymous No. 16497606

>>16497594

Anonymous No. 16497609

>>16497429
I can't believe he's cheating on his wife with >nohooves.
Actually no I can totally believe that from this faggot.

Anonymous No. 16497611

>>16497598
my teacher used to do that at school
its nostalgic to me

Anonymous No. 16497615

>>16497602
Good downrange livestreaming is a lot harder than it seems. Russia has it easier than most since they have build ground stations eastward out of Baikonur, but polar launches north out of Vostochny don't have the same level of Soviet-era infrastructure

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Anonymous No. 16497621

>>16497606
Separation

Anonymous No. 16497634

>>16496943
strike the earth

Anonymous No. 16497658

>>16496951
having a meltdown during the trip is based
if they have a meltdown on the surface and they do something to endanger the rest of the crew you can just shoot them

Anonymous No. 16497676

>>16497134
what's wrong with OpenMW

Anonymous No. 16497684

>>16497594
>>16497606
>>16497621
Ziggers are so hilarious. Nobody wants to see your propaganda launch to fuck knows where.

Anonymous No. 16497685

>>16497524
the choice to participate in the market is an IQ test and you obviously failed

Anonymous No. 16497688

>>16497545
hundreds of years of downward selective pressure against competence (the Tzar kills them)

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Anonymous No. 16497691

Comparison of BAS with Tiangong/ISS

>>16497676
Worse base performances (tho it evens out when playing fully modded), lots of cool old mods don't work, also lots of small utility/quality of life mods.
Most people who heavily mod in depth, or have very specific setups don't use openmw.

Anonymous No. 16497695

>>16497691
>69 tons
nice

Anonymous No. 16497698

>>16497158
happy to know that you're having fun anon :)

Anonymous No. 16497702

>>16497685
>neet seething about capitalism in his favorite forum all day
Unbelievable what a pathetic loser you are

Anonymous No. 16497704

Someone stage

Anonymous No. 16497706

STAGING
>>16497705
>>16497705
>>16497705
>>16497705
>>16497705