🧵 Paid lessons worth it?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 01:32:06 UTC No. 1004278
Also the introduction and guide's readme.txt link and images are broken.
I assume paid lessons have the advantages of showing the workflow, but I guess time-lapses also works?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 01:56:01 UTC No. 1004279
if you want a lesson in blender follow the man Andrew Price
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 02:10:18 UTC No. 1004280
>>1004278
Yes but not for blender
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 03:43:39 UTC No. 1004283
>>1004278
No, courses are a "scam" by more experienced artist to monetize their skills in a competitive industry where getting employed is next to impossible
If you need to follow a course, pirate it, don't fall for the grift
>>1004280
Not just Blender, not even limited to 3D
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 04:00:44 UTC No. 1004287
>>1004283
>Not just Blender, not even limited to 3D
you dont know what you are talking about. Paid in person courses where you have to 1) produce 2)deliver on time in front of a class 3)explain your work 4) answer critiques are infinitely valuable.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 04:07:52 UTC No. 1004288
>>1004287
So, are you selling or did you fall for it?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 04:11:13 UTC No. 1004289
>>1004283
>No, courses are a "scam"
How do you learn then?
Forcing yourself through 5000+ hours of trial and error hoping for a decent result?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 04:49:02 UTC No. 1004290
>>1004278
When it comes to independent learning, you'll probably follow a guide for a little bit and then go and do your own thing. Which is why youtube tutorials are better.
Paid online art classes can be good if you want to copy that specific teacher's style. In-person is good if you lack discipline and interest.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 05:32:07 UTC No. 1004293
>>1004283
Yes dipshit, people monetize their courses because they spend their time on it, none of what you said disproves their usefulness. Sour grapes much?
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 10:43:34 UTC No. 1004302
Paid lessons are not worth it unless they are from a renowned industry professional, and even then, you can probably find their course or others for free online.
>>1004283
>No, courses are a "scam" by more experienced artist to monetize their skills in a competitive industry where getting employed is next to impossible
>If you need to follow a course, pirate it, don't fall for the grift
Double correct
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:53:05 UTC No. 1004304
>>1004302
heres the rub : you NEED to do in person courses with strict deadlines and presentations and critiques and explanations of why you chose to do X. Courses over the computer are completely worthless.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:10:53 UTC No. 1004314
>>1004302
>and even then, you can probably find their course or others for free online.
I know plenty of trackers and piracy sites, the problem with Blender piracy is that courses are either VERY outdated or behind very exclusive private trackers.
It's not easy to pirate good, modern blender courses.
Anonymous at Mon, 30 Dec 2024 16:22:07 UTC No. 1004315
pierrick´s courses can be found on telegram easily, dannymac´s sculpting course is on kemono, and those ae version agnostic. if you want something basic, just pick the latest one for the version you´re using and call it a day, you don´t need high quality just to be told what keys do
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 22:16:05 UTC No. 1004426
>>1004315
what telegram?
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 22:51:56 UTC No. 1004431
>>1004426
It’s a scam, most pirated videos can be easily found online. Anyone who suggests looking at unsafe social networks is probably going to scam you.
Anonymous at Tue, 31 Dec 2024 23:25:36 UTC No. 1004435
>>1004431
the only videos you need to look at are free ones on youtube
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:05:05 UTC No. 1004443
>>1004278
I once spent 200$ in numerous courses during covid lmao what a fucking mistake once I got into cgpeers and then telegram. I will never spend another dime on course even it means going to college for it. It's all a scam.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 02:19:16 UTC No. 1004444
>>1004278
not this one, that's for sure. the course itself is unfinished and they don't cover rigging. what good is a character if you can't move it, or worse slap on a shitty auto rig that breaks everything you worked to make? fuck that.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 04:10:23 UTC No. 1004450
I'm currently right now pirate 60 Blender courses, from places like CGCourse or Coloso.
Anonymous at Wed, 1 Jan 2025 12:33:23 UTC No. 1004461
>>1004443
Yeah, but I've known of cgpeers for years but I haven't seen them open invites lol
Anonymous at Sun, 5 Jan 2025 01:49:18 UTC No. 1004715
>>1004278
courses provide higher quality learning than free content from youtube. but there are places you can get a lot of courses for free (online courses club, rutracker, telegram groups). if you're gonna pay for a course, make sure it's something you actually want. specifically, is the artists style something you're really interested in? if so then it may be worth it.
also note that a lot of wingfox and coloso courses are in korean/japanese/chinese, and the subtitles are not always that great so can be difficult to follow. it's not much of an issue if you got the course for free, but if you're paying for it you'd expect actual good subtitles. it's honestly absurd how awful they can be at times.
i would not recommend courses from other sites like skillshare or udemy, those are often very basic or provided my amateur grifters, the quality of which will be no better than what you can find for free from youtube.
lastly, there are some courses that will use a base mesh or daz presets. these are definitely not worth your time. make sure they course will actually show you the process of sculpting the figure from the absolute beginning without making use of shortcuts that will teach you nothing.
Anonymous at Sun, 5 Jan 2025 01:53:15 UTC No. 1004716
>>1004431
>Anyone who suggests looking at unsafe social networks is probably going to scam you
one telegram group i've used is named course busters. it's absolutely not a scam.
Anonymous at Sun, 5 Jan 2025 11:54:07 UTC No. 1004741
>>1004716
Sounds like a scam affiliate, of course people will look at other people’s opinions and tell them which is a scam or not. Telegram is the only one that 100% scam people. Nothing can be proven, it’s like 4chan but without the mods. Discord without mods. Telegram users are leaving for a reason and that’s the problem with their scam, police that can collect data is never going to be something scammers will use. Only dumb scammers who don’t believe in technology will get arrested. So stop using Telegram it’s a wasteland with nothing to gain or lose.
Anonymous at Wed, 15 Jan 2025 00:30:00 UTC No. 1005430
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXm
>half the footage is from other channels
>low quality ai references
>even the blockout reference image is ai generated and lopsided lmao
>the "retopology" is triangulated for some reason, indicating he just ripped a game model and pretended he made the topology (also either too lazy or too dumb to de-triangulate it)
>bizarre texturing process
imagine, IMAGINE buying blender courses in 2009+16. ishygddt
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 21:31:32 UTC No. 1005711
there's one course I'd be interested in watching for blender, this one
https://blendermarket.com/products/
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 23:40:04 UTC No. 1005728
>>1005711
There is already a leaked/pirated version of this. I had it once.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jan 2025 23:55:23 UTC No. 1005732
>>1005728
good call, found it, maybe my renders won't look like shit now
Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 01:52:43 UTC No. 1005736
Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 08:08:02 UTC No. 1005751
>>1005736
Its on ru
Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 08:55:32 UTC No. 1005755
>>1005751
Can you at least type the full name? I have no clue what tf is ru
Anonymous at Sun, 19 Jan 2025 12:29:47 UTC No. 1005761
>>1005755
It’s a Russia version of Pirate Bay but with higher chance of being hacked. There’s no official name because it keeps changing for obvious reasons.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 05:30:11 UTC No. 1007568
are there any good courses for just fundamentals of modeling? specifically poly or box modeling from beginning to advanced levels. i feel like so many tutorials i find are just retarded follow alongs with little to know explanations of anything or very basic beginner stuff
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 06:32:34 UTC No. 1007574
>>1004289
>Forcing yourself through 5000+ hours of trial and error hoping for a decent result?
isn't that how most people do it? it's basically this but you also gotta learn how to use your tools, hoard useful tips and just copy a some aspects you find interesting until you develop your own substance
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 06:49:21 UTC No. 1007575
>>1007574
there are ways to speed up that process such as learning to use fundamentals and tools effectively but finding a good place that teaches that is tricky
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Feb 2025 23:57:58 UTC No. 1007626
>>1007568
honestly i've come to the conclusion that modelling can't really be learned well by following a tut. you just gotta try it out. learn to use quad draw and use that to block out your figures. i think it's a good start because it lets you build a silhouette from different profiles so you can use references if you want. but as far as tutorials go, idk it's not really helpful to follow them. there are too many ways to model something. the best approach is situational.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:06:15 UTC No. 1007787
>>1004279
>Andrew Price
If after following his tutorials you still need more tutorials you were following them wrong and you should watch them again until you understand everything
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:19:48 UTC No. 1007789
Bottom line: it's up to you to figure it out. Even if someone shows you, you still need to "get it" and "make it yours". Courses can help, but they cost. Figuring it out yourself can be difficult, but it really just depends. No good answer. I would say the hands down best way to learn anything is to be an underpaid apprentice.
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:22:17 UTC No. 1007790
>>1007789
>be an underpaid apprentice.
work for free for Andrew Price
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Feb 2025 11:49:19 UTC No. 1007843
>>1004278
if it shows you the skills you want but don't have then it has value. it is a shortcut from RTFMing and making mistakes to get you 80% of the way of competence.