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Anonymous No. 1009076

It's over

Anonymous No. 1009077

AI is still too flawed and limited. 3D Artists still have time but they need to get off the corporate teat and make their own thing. That and I'm sure that's a cherry picked sample from like a thousand abominations.

Anonymous No. 1009081

IT HASN'T EVEN BEGUN

Anonymous No. 1009084

>>1009076
I wonder if you showed this to a neanderthal if he'd coom himself to death.

Anonymous No. 1009086

the solution isnt fighting or giving up. you will have to merge with the ai.
its the solution to the imprecision of ai. a human hand that guides the system, and the system which is a whole hollywood studio in a box that can crunch the work for you.

Anonymous No. 1009092

>>1009076
Based, I embrace total AI porn simulation, I hope it will be as euphoric, addictive and mindbreaking as possible so that coombrains get removed from society and genepool, shoved away into basements in some warehouse hooked on IV and cumming the lifeforce away out of their bodies. Maybe we can hook some sort of battery on them to further capitalize as their bodies get turned into biofuel to run porn simulation and nutrients to feed comatose frail bodies of other coombrains

Anonymous No. 1009093

>>1009076
There's a thread for that: >>1006395

Anonymous No. 1009094

>>1009076
It’s not even sexy, get lost. At least perverted artists know how to make it sexy enough to get banned on 4chan.

Anonymous No. 1009095

>>1009076
are tiktok dances and walk cycles going to be the "1 girl, big boob" pinups of AI videos?

Anonymous No. 1009096

>>1009095
>AI can only do insanely basic shit
And this will probably remain the case for over a decade...I need these retarded 3D artists that are attached to the corpo teat to get made obsolete even faster.

Anonymous No. 1009098

>>1009076
I have to admit that looks better than most coomer 3d shit

Anonymous No. 1009101

embrace the tool
>AI CANT [X]
on its own no,but as these tools are further developed you will be able to have more and more control over what it produces.
you will be a movie director for you art eventually,the AIs your crew.

Anonymous No. 1009102

>>1009076
post wires

Anonymous No. 1009108

>>1009076
that sure is a pornographic superstimulus.

Anonymous No. 1009110

>>1009098
>>1009101
No it’s not, guy is not banned from 4chan which means it’s bad. Real sexy scenes will get you banned here.

Anonymous No. 1009112

>>1009098
I don't like the style but it does look good. AI breakthroughs are always initially demonstrated on unbeliavably boring normie shit, like prehistoric muh Michelangelo art or disney barbie nonsense.

Anonymous No. 1009115

>>1009110
It's not pornographic, why would they ban him?
>>1009112
That's because you can't do anything else, they are heavily censored. But I must admit I like the peach Nintendo/Disney mix but it may be my faggot millennial side talking.

Anonymous No. 1009124

>>1009115
>It's not pornographic
Not all nudity is pornographic, and not all pornography has nudity

Anonymous No. 1009126

>>1009124
>Not all nudity is pornographic

You have such a limited mind anon. Once you start explore the limits of your coomand of reality
the things that constitutes pronography will expand far beyond your feeble horizons.

Where you now hold but a dripping faucet there could exist a great hose that carved grand rivers.

Anonymous No. 1009288

>>1009076
I'm pretty sure that's just using the diffusion model as a glorified renderer.
Meaning the animation is fed into it using a pose controlnet, same for face, body and background.
It's still the same amount of work to do if you have the assets at hand.

Anonymous No. 1009364

>>1009076
The "more advanced" this shit gets the less worried I am that it's gonna lead to the advent of any major changes. Spam flooding social media is obviously the upper limit of what chatbots, image generators, video generators and now game/3D generators are useful for.

Anonymous No. 1009395

>>1009288
This is KlingAI, there's no video to video there, it's likely image to video, where you provide a starting frame, and the AI takes it from there based on your text prompt. These days you can easily match this locally as well. All you need is a 24GB VRAM nvidia GPU, and something like this is very simple to do using WanVideo2, with the only cost being electricity, which is negligible, considering the load is no different from rendering frames on a 3D application. Something comparable to this takes roughly 5 minutes to generate on my 4090, although I'm limited to 24 fps locally, and roughly 4 seconds, compared to the 5 seconds seen in this one.

Anonymous No. 1009397

>>1009395
I think is up to 10 seconds, I'll try your method

Anonymous No. 1009399

>>1009395
so you are telling me I can locally make videos about Colombian women licking their feet covered in pasta sauce locally? I was anti ai unit now, consider me a changed man

Anonymous No. 1009401

>>1009395
Why is there a time limit? Does it have to generate the whole thing within its "short-term memory" or "context"?

Anonymous No. 1009403

>>1009401
It's limited by your VRAM basically, and by the model to some extent. I guess you could technically continue the shot from the last frame and combine them in some other program, but it won't have the context of what happened in the previous shot, so it will be hard to maintain continuity. So longer cuts are going to be difficult to do.
>>1009399
Yes, if you have the hardware. If you can afford the upcoming recently leaked 96GB RTX 6000 PRO, you can do even higher res/framerate/longer content. Of course that's probably going to cost around 10k at least. Right now these things don't support multi gpu setups properly, so a high VRAM single GPU is required. Or at least I'm not aware of any way to combine VRAM for this purpose at this time. You can offload some secondary stuff to a second GPU, which does help offset some of the load on your main GPU, but the video model itself can be only loaded on a single one.

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Anonymous No. 1009407

it's to test the latest and greatest in image generation llm interfacing and see if we can generate a turn around for a real person

WOW... but could be better

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Anonymous No. 1009408

WOW, better
we hit the safety filter once, but understandable.
let's go on

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Anonymous No. 1009409

oh no

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Anonymous No. 1009410

it's an llm we can just correct it and do bett...

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Anonymous No. 1009411

fine i'll roll it back myself
okay, it's lost the likeness a little but...

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Anonymous No. 1009412

oh my...

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Anonymous No. 1009413

oh no...

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Anonymous No. 1009416

>>1009414
Unless you're doing assets for a game, why would you even waste time generating a 3D model, when you can just directly have one of the better video models output finished footage instead?

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Anonymous No. 1009417

>>1009416
why would i settle for pathetic realism when i can bask in the glory of pic-related
stylised SOVL

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Anonymous No. 1009418

>>1009417
I mean, if you really want to have that style, there's nothing stopping you. Here you go!

Anonymous No. 1009419

>>1009418
Wow we're living in the future and it's blinded me like the sun
Thanks friend

Anonymous No. 1009435

>>1009418
>>1009417
>>1009414
AISAMA i kneel...... finally 3d modelling has been democratized... billions will generate

Anonymous No. 1009436

>>1009435
I love democracy

Anonymous No. 1009450

>>1009395
>Something comparable to this takes roughly 5 minutes to generate on my 4090, although I'm limited to 24 fps locally, and roughly 4 seconds, compared to the 5 seconds seen in this one.
Oh that's bad. How often do you need to refine the prompt and cherry-pick examples till you've got something that's remotely viewable?
Also control nets aren't img2img that more directly controls the diffusion model. I'm pretty sure that this klingai thing does something similar to what I described in the background, perhaps using a language transformer to pick an animation to feed into the controlnet.
The only difference here is they reduced creative control to make it normie accessible.
There's no other way to ensure temporal consistency because the model can't keep a context long enough, just too much data.
Also I'm pretty sure this cloud service uses datacenter GPUs 80GB H100s and such. If you're able to produce similar results on a consumer graphics card bring it. I highly doubt it though

Anonymous No. 1009451

>>1009407
That's would be pretty decent actually if it were an actual 3D mesh and not an img2img filter.

Anonymous No. 1009467

It was good while it lasted.

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Anonymous No. 1009473

I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords.

Anonymous No. 1009479

>>1009473
You know full well as everyone that corporate America will only limit the AI to poor people like you. What you are is nothing but test subjects who work for free. You’re not helping, you’re making things worse.

Anonymous No. 1009485

>>1009479
Local models is a thing boom boom

Anonymous No. 1009491

>>1009479
open source will make their attempts worthless
corporate America is dead and rotting,not to mention full of leakers

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Anonymous No. 1009523

>>1009450
I didn't mean to imply that you can match resolution/framerate or shot length possible with the paid services, using consumer grade hardware. I was more talking about content. As for cherry picking, it's not hard to get something that looks nice and somewhat close to what you wanted, but it does still require a lot of generating if you want something closer to your exact needs, unless you have some sort of a controlnet setup, but I haven't really seen workflows for that for Wan at least, unless you count video to video.

So it's clearly not production ready yet, but it's getting there. Compare this to what it was just a year ago, and the difference is massive.

Here's an example using image to video with Wan2.1, with the first frame of the OP video as source, generated with a 4090 locally. There's nothing too fancy here, a prompt and a negative prompt, a couple loras to exaggerate breast jiggle, 24 fps, total 120 frames, 512x512 res, then upscaled x1.5 + frame interpolation to 48fps. Total generation time: 10 minutes.

Anonymous No. 1009526

>>1009523
I tried some wan2.1 stuff yesterday for the first time but it annoys me that there's no preview of the shit it's doing. I only have a 3060 so I definitely want to see what direction it's going since it's a colossal waste of resources to let something cook for half an hour only to find out it's not what you had in mind at all, or it absolutely shat the bed and either only shifted the image a tad and that was it or spazzed out with glitches.
if there was a preview you could stop it and try a new config just like with the still images.

Anonymous No. 1009528

>>1009526
Definitely a problem with video gen, yes. Personally I do tests in 256x256, to see if my prompts are doing even somewhat what I want them to do. Of course, doing that covers your bases only partly, as it won't show you expressions properly or other details like that, but it's better than wasting 5+ minutes only to find out it wasn't even near to doing something resembling your original intent. I honestly wouldn't bother with local video gen, without a 4090, or at least a 3090. Even a 4090 I feel is just barely enough.

Anonymous No. 1009583

This entire thread has nothing to do with 3D, you stupid niggers. These are generated clips that look like badly lit 3D models as a style choice.

Anonymous No. 1009588

>>1009583
AI relates to everything, since it's set to replace every single job on the (current) market. Why wouldn't we discuss topics that threaten our 3D careers? And if you think AI does not threaten your 3D career, your either naĂŻve or delusional.

Anonymous No. 1009592

>>1009588
I mean that's true but why not go to another place for discussing ai, do you think that since ai will replace us all we can't have boards dedicated to a subject?
That's ridiculous.
There's people who still talk about horse racing, we should go and talk about cars instead? What about portrait painting, why not just post photography.
Why don't we just talk about AI and that's all.

Anonymous No. 1009595

>>1009592
What? No. We're talking about AI here, to discuss it with other 3D artists from that particular viewpoint, instead of some random people who know nothing of 3D. As long as the topic relates to 3D, why wouldn't it be welcome here? Just because it's about AI, doesn't mean it's not also a 3D related discussion. You can talk about cars in a horse discussion board if it relates to horses as well, for example if someone is asking for advice on what's the best vehicle to get for transporting your horse, and so on. Or for painting, someone could be talking about photo reference, and what things should be taken into account, when taking photographs to be used as reference for your paintings later on. Surely this isn't hard to understand?

Anonymous No. 1009598

>>1009588
It would be off topic to discuss AI chatbots here too. In reality you’re a stupid nigger who mistook 2D animation for 3D because the prompter added ”3D” in his prompt. This has nothing to do with 3D

Anonymous No. 1009599

>>1009598
it's moving pixel all the same

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Anonymous No. 1009604

the issue with AI is that even while good, the novelty effect goes away.

And It's similar to 2D shit.

Looks good, but is boring to me now.
I don't even care about 2D AI hentai because it looks the same, the same 5-6 poses.

The issue is that AI faggots wtihout art fundamentals can only prompt the same 5-10 poses and shit.

And while good, is like eating the same food every day for like 2-3 months.
You get bored of like the meat being cooked in the same way, with the same sauces and with the same recipe.

And you get tired after seeing 500 pajeets in In Indian spam AI art for 2 years and It just looks the same after a while.

Anonymous No. 1009618

>>1009598
You dense motherfucker. We're not discussing AI chat bots or AI video for that matter. We're discussing the effects AI has on 3D and 3D jobs, you absolute retard.
>>1009604
This is true, for now. In a few years, 99% of people won't be able to tell the difference between AI video and manually created video. Just like the majority can't tell the difference between better quality image gen and something made by an actual artist. It'll be idiots calling everything AI, even if it's made by a real person, just like what is happening with 2D art now.

Anonymous No. 1009623

>>1009523
>>1009588
It won’t replace 3D job, the stupid AI can’t do actual modeling without looking like glue and slime. It can’t replicate lighting well enough without people knowing because it doesn’t care about lighting theory. It can’t replicate not make anything new it just copys what is given. Buy a Ad stupid.

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Anonymous No. 1009625

>>1009623
Keep hoping for that. Meanwhile everyone with half a brain is preparing for the inevitable.

Anonymous No. 1009646

>>1009595
This is fucking ridiculous, dozens of threads with the word "it's over" is not a discussion, is spam, if I post a marvel image and I put "it's over" a few dozen times mods will delete it as spam, it doesn't matter how much cg was in the fucking avengers.
And to discuss what? Ai is about automating everything, you seriously need a dozen threads to discuss how to press the generate button?

Anonymous No. 1009649

>>1009646
reminds me of the /ic/ temper tantrums
>I entered a thread about things I didn't like??!!!
filter and ignore

Anonymous No. 1009654

>>1009625
It hasn’t build anything related to 3D, you’re the stupid one who has to wait 80 years for it to get on our level. You and me are going to be dead by the time they install animation on it.

Anonymous No. 1009662

>>1009654
>80 years
I know it's a exaggeration, but it's literally around the corner

Anonymous No. 1009673

>>1009649
I never said I don't like ai, I said that how many fucking threads you need to write it's over

Anonymous No. 1009696

>>1009662
You have nothing to claim, AI in 3D art is at a standstill. They can’t stop the AI from doing stupid things.

Anonymous No. 1009707

>>1009076
I just wish AI would get feet right.

Anonymous No. 1009806

>>1009696
>ai will never do x
how many times does this lesson need to be taught?

Anonymous No. 1009812

>>1009806
You don’t have evidence, we already seen all 3D AI models. None of them can achieve anything beyond gloo like sculpting. Noobs like you are better off buying fully rigged models instead of overly faked designs that can’t be altered.

Anonymous No. 1009822

>>1009812
didn't know you could see into the future anon

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Anonymous No. 1009823

>>1009812
>>1009822
Bros, please stop being retarded
https://github.com/Tencent/Hunyuan3D-2

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Anonymous No. 1009835

>>1009823
>You need pictures
>You need an artist
Bro do you hear yourself

Anonymous No. 1009864

>>1009076
Are there even websites that have cropped up that specialize in videos like this? rule34, iwara, danboro etc is like a desert. A handful of 2 second clips in the last three months.

Anonymous No. 1009868

>>1009864
there should be plenty on civitai

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Anonymous No. 1009882

>>1009868
Bad news, since the new regulations and model being filed with junk. The current models do not work as intended like older models. There’s less hentai, more negative type rules, badly created models and more.