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Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 08:20:18 UTC No. 840588
Can someone experienced or even novice explain to me what made this look so horrible?
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 08:21:10 UTC No. 840589
>>840588
non existent compositing
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 08:21:39 UTC No. 840590
>>840589
What do you mean?
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 08:30:32 UTC No. 840593
>>840590
The girls all acted in a green-screen background, everything else is CG or raw footage.
The dude who composed the scene is unbelievable incompetent.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 10:30:14 UTC No. 840597
the physics are all wrong
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 10:40:33 UTC No. 840598
>>840588
so this is the power of hollywood...
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 10:48:05 UTC No. 840600
>>840588
the acting is horrible, the green screen looks like shit, and that's not how the bodies work in a explosion, the whole physics in the movie are retarded.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 11:29:20 UTC No. 840601
These movies are storyboarded and directed in pre vis, and all the vfx and compositing is outsourced to third world companies.
The first unit team just lazily shuffled the actresses through the green screen process.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 12:41:58 UTC No. 840608
>>840588
Technically it looks fine. But the explosion and the pressure wave are physically completely wrong. In real life, the hot gases would move far faster than your body. You would be entirely engulfed by them before the explosion managed to instil any momentum on you. In fact, an explosion that small would probably not impart much momentum on you in any case. So what would happen is that the explosion would occlude your body, and a while later your burning and screaming body might possibly drop back into view outside the gas cloud. Also, your hair and clothes would start moving far faster than your body. Now it just looks like you're tethered to something and physically janked away just before the explosion.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 13:02:27 UTC No. 840611
Marvel has a boner for single light sources so they can do more work in post. That shot only matches 1 studio light 1 one environment light. So youre missing all the blue overcast tones etc.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 16:29:17 UTC No. 840619
looks cheap
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 16:31:18 UTC No. 840621
Looks like a tokusatsu
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 16:51:10 UTC No. 840626
>>840621
play power rangers song and this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwb
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 17:07:50 UTC No. 840628
>>840588
The first major thing that stands out to me is that the lighting of the scene is different to the lighting of the characters.
Marvel should have known about this before shooting the scene.
This is what causes the major disconnect between the characters and the environment.
If the scene had more outdoor oriented lighting (as others have already stated), the scene would look much better.
The physics of the explosions could have also been better done although, that may have just been a fault of the writers' incompetence rather than any cinematography errors.
also this thread doesn't really belong on this board.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 18:28:31 UTC No. 840635
>>840588
Feminism.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 18:34:44 UTC No. 840636
>>840635
this
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 20:18:32 UTC No. 840650
>>840628
>also this thread doesn't really belong on this board.
It absolutely does. /tv/ doesn't have a technical/filmmaking thread ever and there are zero boards here that deal with filmmaking. The shot is all vfx and I would argue that we need to break down more things here. This board fills many different hats that 3D is involved in.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 21:11:20 UTC No. 840654
>>840628
>also this thread doesn't really belong on this board.
>3DCG
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 21:13:38 UTC No. 840655
>>840588
Jesus Christ these are some Mortal Kombat 2 Annihilation SFX.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 22:13:38 UTC No. 840664
>>840654
MORE LIKE
>3DPD
ZING!
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jul 2021 23:22:43 UTC No. 840673
>>840608
this
People notice physics mistakes INSTANTLY. Doesn't matter if they're cognizant or not, it's all instinctual. This is why most people don't believe NASA videos from space though they don't know why.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jul 2021 00:16:44 UTC No. 840681
>>840673
>why most people don't believe NASA videos from space
>most people
Wait, what?
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jul 2021 00:35:44 UTC No. 840684
>>840588
no sense of force from the blast- she just floated away with little burns etc.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jul 2021 00:45:50 UTC No. 840686
>Lighting doesn't match.
>No shockwave from the explosion
>No displacement of body from explosion
>Perspective doesn't match
>No atmospheric distortions
>Awkward camera angles
Top it all off, the shots are dumb. This looks terrible, and I normally think Marvel does a very acceptable job.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jul 2021 00:51:13 UTC No. 840688
When was this shot? Could it have been due to some covid-related bullshit?
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jul 2021 01:41:53 UTC No. 840694
>>840688
Yes and no and no and yes. There's always an excuse and there's always a deadline. There's always a budget excuse and there's always a budget excuse in general. I think they just cheapened out by giving it to a 3rd party across the seas (because the 3rd party bid on the lowest cost for the filmmakers--you have to remember that filmmakers are notoriously cheap as fuck even though it's a billion dollar budget) but I'm not going to lie and it's going to piss off everyone; the average audience who watches this could give a fuck less about the shot. The ones who do clearly work in the industry and care but in reality, when you have a deadline, you just pump out shit. The ones who really care either don't work in the industry and don't understand deadlines or they are so butthurt that a billion dollar industry just wants to pump out shit to the masses and as long as the shot is clear and conveys what the production department wants; no one else gives a fuck. And I say that in the nicest way possible. I'm willing to bet that the people in this thread complaining don't and have never had a real job in vfx and are too fucking dense and dumb to separate reality from filmmaking.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jul 2021 10:35:17 UTC No. 840747
>>840694
So how many rupees did you get paid?
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jul 2021 12:54:45 UTC No. 840757
>>840681
NASA videos are a meme at this point, bro.
People who cope always say "it looks weird because we don't know how zero G looks like therefore it's probably not fake". Yet the zero G plane ride in Russia looks completely different than allegedly zero G videos from NASA.
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jul 2021 19:48:44 UTC No. 840785
>>840694
I have worked in vfx (on a few Marvel movies too) Marvel will change the scope of work in the final hours of the project, since the execs (who have the final say) will only really start paying attention and going to reviews during the last two months. Studios have more than enough time to make it look good (in my experience), but then it almost has to be done from scratch because they want to change the plate or some shit like that. The executives are the only ones to blame for shit like this (specifically Victoria Alonso)
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Anonymous at Sat, 24 Jul 2021 21:14:23 UTC No. 840806
>>840588
lighting. marvel enforces the smae lighting setup on all their films . All big budget studios are cowardly like this
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Jul 2021 00:24:18 UTC No. 840831
>>840588
The lighting of the CG background doesn't match the the live action footage. The shot 2 seconds in with the chick on top of a building was, for some mindboggling reason filmed with darker lighting that the shot of the first bitch in the smoke-filled street. (I have no idea who these characters are, I haven't watched a marvel movie since the mid 2000's)
Are you telling me that this is from one of their recent movies? The Boys looks 10x better than this.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Jul 2021 03:05:53 UTC No. 840852
>>840831
Bollywood films look better than this
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Jul 2021 03:45:44 UTC No. 840857
Bad lightning combined with a lack of soul
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Jul 2021 05:09:19 UTC No. 840865
>>840601
Indian and paki vfx
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Jul 2021 05:18:08 UTC No. 840866
>>840785
Why is always women.
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Jul 2021 05:43:07 UTC No. 840870
>>840852
Bollywood films have SOUL
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Jul 2021 13:48:50 UTC No. 841048
>>840593
how the fuck did this get past the supervisor?
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:06:58 UTC No. 841077
>>841048
the supervisor is an affirmative action hire
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Jul 2021 18:25:35 UTC No. 841083
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Jul 2021 22:29:10 UTC No. 841125
>>841077
he's a white guy, and the assistant supervisor is a nepotism hire (Coppola family)
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Bathroper at Tue, 27 Jul 2021 01:04:35 UTC No. 841149
>>840588
- greenscreen spill
- missing motion blur in bg
- matchmove bg is off
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Bathroper at Tue, 27 Jul 2021 01:07:10 UTC No. 841150
>>841149
>>840588
oops wrong frame but funny how it also applies to the next one :)
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Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jul 2021 01:29:49 UTC No. 841152
>>840588
They are getting bad across the board. I still cant believe they chose to showcase the reveal of the eternals team like this.
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jul 2021 03:11:34 UTC No. 841158
>>841150
>>841149
bet this is front a reshoot and they didnt take any hdri's
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Jul 2021 04:16:51 UTC No. 841163
It'll be ugly no matter what you do because the creatura and the crypt walker are fucking ugly to begin with.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Jul 2021 23:58:48 UTC No. 841499
>>841150
>Golden ratio
Bud. Please.
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Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jul 2021 12:24:25 UTC No. 841573
>>841152
man i've never been into capeshit but this is next level generic garbage. Why are they in idle poses?
Why are they perfectly spaced apart? Obviously from the perspective of a viewer who is looking at this as advertising they want to have some design aesthetic, but then why are they just standing awkwardly on a beach looking bored?
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jul 2021 13:37:41 UTC No. 841581
>>841573
they're not even trying anymore
Anonymous at Wed, 4 Aug 2021 12:13:09 UTC No. 842565
>>840588
The fucking physics of it all make no sense.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Aug 2021 09:27:09 UTC No. 842717
>>841152
COVID spacing. Can't have them can't the wuflu
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Aug 2021 14:36:12 UTC No. 842740
>>840757
The surface of the moon isn't zero g you dumbass
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Aug 2021 17:58:18 UTC No. 842776
>>841573
>>841581
Why would they waste budget on anything more than bare minimum mediocrity when the average person still watching capeshit at this point won't even notice? They'll only care about consuming product so that they're not out of the loop with their twitter friends, and are all caught up ready to be excited for next product.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Aug 2021 22:10:43 UTC No. 842816
>>840588
The composite itself falls under OK-ish.
The sim scale looks off in comparison to a human.
Anonymous at Thu, 5 Aug 2021 22:11:58 UTC No. 842817
>>841150
>golden ratio
you have to be 18 or older to post here
Anonymous at Fri, 6 Aug 2021 12:37:15 UTC No. 842906
>>840588
feminism