Anonymous at Fri, 3 Sep 2021 22:45:05 UTC No. 848428

It's hard to practice anatomy with just one hand, anon. Please understand.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Sep 2021 22:54:18 UTC No. 848432

>>848426
mommy

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Sep 2021 22:58:13 UTC No. 848434

>>848426
How does one get good at anatomy modeling?

also here's my amazing hands, no need to critique it, but I'm sure you understands

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Sep 2021 23:00:24 UTC No. 848435

>>848434

Don't worry anon, you will make it. Those hands will soon be on someone's chest. keep it up.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Sep 2021 23:25:29 UTC No. 848438

>>848434

cgpeers some good anatomy courses and sculpt along whilst looking at anatomical breakdowns.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Sep 2021 23:29:35 UTC No. 848440

>>848438
I wasn't aware I would have to be as familiar with the muscular structure as a doctor would be. I've made a grave mistake.

Anonymous at Fri, 3 Sep 2021 23:45:16 UTC No. 848446

>>848440
not a doctor, you only care about the ones that lead to changes in form/silhouette or articulate the surface in some way.
Knowing anatomy means you can not only create good looking sculps you can rig and articulate them correctly.
Good coomer bait comes from only breaking shit for effect. (no internal organs, bulges) not from crappy sculpts or poor joint articulation.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 00:15:51 UTC No. 848451

>>848446
What are some terms I should search for to learn how to understand how skin would deform along with the muscles? As in, the muscles have their deformations, but the skin on top would cover certain details in certain circumstances. If that makes any sense.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 01:54:08 UTC No. 848461

how do you guys get good at sculpting with a mouse and keyboard?
is a tablet necessary?

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 02:13:12 UTC No. 848469

>>848446
>not a doctor, you only care about the ones that lead to changes in form/silhouette or articulate the surface in some way.
i.e. most of them

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 02:15:58 UTC No. 848470

>>848451
skin conforms to muscles so learn muscles
after you nail that down everything else will fall into place
also don't skip bone structure, you won't understand musculature without understating the skeleton; learn them both at the same time

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 02:21:38 UTC No. 848471

>>848461
How do you draw without a pencil? U should do poly modeling if you dont have one

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 02:26:12 UTC No. 848472

>>848471
I do this atm because mouse sculpting seems like a waste of time

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 04:07:06 UTC No. 848477

3d allows us to go beyond anatomy, why imitate nature when you can perfect it?

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 07:16:06 UTC No. 848495

>>848477
But anon, without anatomy how would we know what breasts are?

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 11:52:16 UTC No. 848515

>>848477
>why imitate nature when you can perfect it
not knowing that art is just an imitation of nature is what every ngmi thinks

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 12:14:19 UTC No. 848520

>>848426
>Why do 3d artists and beginners avoid anatomy?
its a rite of passage

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 12:42:05 UTC No. 848523

>>848426
that shader is perfect
i wish i could learn how to make something similar...

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 12:43:30 UTC No. 848525

>>848426
Source of OP's image?

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 12:58:58 UTC No. 848526

I've been drawing my whole life- actively teaching myself new techniques and mediums to express- I have done loose, sporadic study of anatomy over the years- But I am self taught, so feel like I lack a lot of the granular knowledge and true "correct" way the human body is designed. I have strong grasp on how the human figure overlaps on itself when depicted in 3d spaceand find it comes natural to draw this overlapping form to great result- This is one thing that 3d does not really help for me- It is more of a burden to match a 3d viewport/character pose than it is for me to just draw it from imagination. My mind's eye is skewed, imprecise on the way things should look. I found my visual language through trial error time and ignorance. and I really like that about my illustration. I don't seek error- But I know that when I try to use heavy reference or trace overs or anything, it feels very distant from what my work is at my natural
I just worry sometimes about truly learning anatomical form- I started study again this summer with 3 books that I've begun working through- I don't want it to steal my imperfect drawing

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:14:26 UTC No. 848529

>>848426
muscle + fat. is nothing man
compared to everything else there is in a body
plus we only look at the surface and how it moves/change shape
Even after knowing everything, you'll still use references.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:23:01 UTC No. 848531

>>848438
Not that anon, but is there any course you recommend?

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:26:33 UTC No. 848533

>>848477
>why imitate nature when you can perfect it?
>>839450

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 13:52:56 UTC No. 848538

>>848426
They go into 3D thinking it's easier than drawing. toplol my keks.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 14:43:36 UTC No. 848548

>>848426
Source?

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 15:18:30 UTC No. 848551

>>848426
>anatomy
>ugly anime eyes picrel

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 15:24:04 UTC No. 848552

>>848525
>>848548

No, practice your anatomy and research skills instead of jerking off.

Hint:

>jap
>twitter

there ya go.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 15:43:17 UTC No. 848557

>>848426
>Why do 3d artists and beginners avoid anatomy?

"Why do beginners dont know this thing that takes years and years to master?"
I dont know, you tell me? Maybe the fact it takes around 3 years of full time study and practice to get even half decent at creating realistic forms, and like 5-10 to really master it.
Anatomy will be something beginners are always shit at.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 16:38:57 UTC No. 848572

>>848426
I'M GONNA COOOOOOOOM

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 16:42:38 UTC No. 848573

>>848552
There's lots of japanese people on twitter.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 16:44:54 UTC No. 848575

>>848552
I need the source so I can study it better. From what I've seen, it seems the guy who made that model is using a trick that no one in this thread seems to have noticed. Give me the source and I'll tell you what it is.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 17:05:29 UTC No. 848579

>>848557
someone fact check this please

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 17:36:50 UTC No. 848587

Who made the model in OPs pic? Reverse search finds nothing!

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 17:54:23 UTC No. 848592

>>848426
Because it’s hard and because it’s not as fun as drawing anime lolis

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 18:15:04 UTC No. 848597

>>848426
There's not really a whole lot of good courses for 3d modeling, unlike 2d art where you just read Loomis then add your own influences.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 18:41:42 UTC No. 848600

>>848426

Because many artists are lazy fucks. Just like musicians who won't learn music theory because they're arrogant enough to think they don't need it.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 18:42:47 UTC No. 848602

>>848461

You can't get good at sculpting with a mouse. Get a tablet. Wacom intuos are like $100 and are perfectly fine.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 18:51:42 UTC No. 848603

>>848575

https://twitter.com/N_YA_naishin

enjoy *cough*studying ahem.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 18:52:27 UTC No. 848604

>>848426
It's hard to find a source that's specifically for sculpting.

>anatomy for medical students
Infinitely more information than you need, many of the structures of the body don't meaningfully impact the visible shape from a normal viewing distance

>anatomy for artists
There's going to be a TON of time spent relating it to 2D via circles and shading and other stuff a 3D person is simultaneously going to know (if intuitively) while also have big gaps due to a lack of fundamental 2D drawing knowledge

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 19:21:16 UTC No. 848609

>>848603
why are the breasts connected like that?

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 19:38:15 UTC No. 848614

>>848603
>source was posted
>anon stays silent
We all knew he was full of shit about "muh trick", but I'm sure you knew that already

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 19:42:20 UTC No. 848615

>>848604
>hard to find
nice indirect request bitch you made me reply
ryan kingslien has a course on anatomy for zbrush fags specifically
anatomy for sculptors book (Uldis Zarins, Sandis Kondrats)
scott eaton everything
go gettem
you have no right to complain

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 20:31:24 UTC No. 848622

>>848609
You have more freedom sculpting them seperate.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 20:47:23 UTC No. 848627

>>848622
ah, makes sense. I see it's also done with the buttocks

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 20:57:05 UTC No. 848630

>>848426
I don't know where to start without having someone to tell me exactly what I have to study.

Anonymous at Sat, 4 Sep 2021 21:04:45 UTC No. 848631

>>848603
Thank you kind anon.

>>848614
Sorry, I only returned to 4chan now. I actually have a life. I shall now explain the trick, which is not that amazing anyway:

>>848609
>why are the breasts connected like that?
That's exactly the trick.

If you take a close look at OP's image, every part of the model is a separate object. The shoulders, the wrists, the breasts, the buttocks, the groin, the elbows, etc, everything is separated and not connected to the rest of the body.

Obviously, I know many people do it this way, but there are many others who don't and instead just "extrude" each new part of the body.
Others do start by combining multiple basic objects, but then they connect them to each other as soon as possible.

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Sep 2021 00:40:07 UTC No. 848661

>>848630
The thread just told you

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Sep 2021 04:28:22 UTC No. 848682

>>848426
someone get me this dudes matcaps

Anonymous at Sun, 5 Sep 2021 05:43:13 UTC No. 848687

>>848631
Was that a trick? Wouldn't most people here already know about that kind of workflow?

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Sep 2021 18:53:15 UTC No. 849200

>>848687

Op here. I'm still beg tier but here's the real trick.

>Get an accurate base mesh file.
>literally put it side by side while sculpting.
>Use shiny matcap to figure out changes in form.
>copy it as best you can.

I only pull out refs if I really need it.

Feels like cheating but who gives a fuck.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Sep 2021 10:00:14 UTC No. 851658

>>848615
I've downloaded Scott Eaton courses and I've been able to sculpt a good looking torso in a few days

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Sep 2021 10:12:53 UTC No. 851661

ryan kingslien is a talentless hack

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Sep 2021 11:01:48 UTC No. 851666

>>848440
Literally spend a few months lifting and browsing /fit/ and modelling humans will be super easy for you

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Sep 2021 19:20:38 UTC No. 851722

what makes the model in OP so appealing?

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 00:28:13 UTC No. 851763

>>851722

Because it has easily recognizable forms which 99% of /3/ will never achieve.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 00:49:00 UTC No. 851768

>>848426
does solar plexus whatever means anything to zbrush?

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 03:15:38 UTC No. 851785

>>848434
literally just look at references and make a model that looks like the reference, what is so hard about that

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 05:49:51 UTC No. 851804

>>848426
Yes.

If I can, I avoid messing with a character's proportions unless they're supposed to be distended or weird-looking. I made a couple character models for GMod once, and the heads (they were bonemerged onto an invisible player base), in spite of their height matching up exactly how they should, looked tiny. I spent some time to make it look less weird, but it's still something daunting IMO.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Sep 2021 05:58:16 UTC No. 852725

>>848434
I've been practicing hand modelling and it's really hard for some reason. But when I model clenched fist, it's really easy. Why does it so hard to model standard hand?

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Sep 2021 06:46:27 UTC No. 852731

>>848426
anatomy takes many years to master, quit being dumb

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Sep 2021 08:08:26 UTC No. 852739

fuck. anatomy.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Sep 2021 08:42:07 UTC No. 852746

You don't need to care about anatomy.
Modelling a body is easy.
If you can't model a body by yourself, just download a body from smutbase or sketchfab and copy it.

I'm a mediocre 3D artist, I've never studied anatomy, and yet people have never complained about my bodies, in fact the body is the one thing people almost always say it's good.
It's the face and the hair that are difficult to model, and those are the things that get criticism.

So don't waste time learning anatomy. It's a meme designed to make 3D beginners waste time instead of actually practising 3D.

These are the things that are the most difficult ones and that you should invest time to learn:

Modelling (or Sculpting) Faces
Modelling (or Sculpting) Hair
Texture Painting
Skinning/Weight Painting

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Sep 2021 17:00:48 UTC No. 852800

>>848426
This photo is anatomically impossible to recreate in real life.

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Sep 2021 22:56:08 UTC No. 852849

>>852739
Got a link to the sculptor?

Anonymous at Fri, 24 Sep 2021 23:27:23 UTC No. 852850

>>852739
It only has to look pleasing on screen.

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Sep 2021 01:43:00 UTC No. 852877

>>852739
literally whats anatomically incorrect about this other than the stylised face

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Sep 2021 01:44:07 UTC No. 852878

>>851722
i feel like its the skin shader thing
it looks so soft and yummy you almost want to eat it

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Sep 2021 15:11:06 UTC No. 853026

Oh my God she's so hot I'm getting do hard what's the source anons I need more of her I need to coom please

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Sep 2021 16:21:03 UTC No. 853068

>>852746

H-how can you call yourself a 3d artist when you can't even make beautiful ass?

t. stem chad.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Sep 2021 16:12:42 UTC No. 853251

>>848600
amazing example fag
music theory is all about standards
which might not be useful at all if you make underground music

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Sep 2021 01:39:21 UTC No. 853765

I should have expected that coming here from /toy/ for anatomy advice would be a mistake. I'm trying to figure out how to make a knee with a realistic or better range of motion using a single joint instead of double joints and without creating a big bump on the back of the knee.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Sep 2021 05:07:47 UTC No. 853796

>>852746
Lets see the bodies anon

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Sep 2021 05:19:06 UTC No. 853797

>>853765
Just use magnets you fuck

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Sep 2021 06:20:47 UTC No. 853805

>>853797
Because that doesn't solve a single problem I'm asking about, you fuck.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Sep 2021 12:06:47 UTC No. 853858

>>853796

He can't I showed him my ass pic and he ran away.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Sep 2021 20:30:24 UTC No. 853915

Only faggots pursuits "muhnatomy".

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Sep 2021 03:56:28 UTC No. 853978

>>852878
that makes sense to me
also, the "roundness", it feels soft and approachable

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Oct 2021 15:12:09 UTC No. 855517

I am quite confident i am mad good at hard surface modelling, but anatomy on the other hand... if someone tells me to sculpt a human, i will ask them if they're insulting me lmfao.

But i have been practicing sculpting and studying anatomy, i have been avoiding it because OP is right desu, anatomy is quite scary. But im sure with enough time, i will be able to sculpt humans too. Dont worry bros you'll get there

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Oct 2021 15:54:34 UTC No. 855526

>>848631
Why is everything a separate object? How does that help. Maybe it works better for transposing?

Anonymous at Thu, 7 Oct 2021 19:17:33 UTC No. 855558

>>855526
Something like those breasts can be hard to make once they are attached to the torso.

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Oct 2021 06:05:01 UTC No. 857539

>>848426
alot of us fail and our sexy body ends up to be a monster from the uncanny vally

Anonymous at Thu, 21 Oct 2021 17:18:04 UTC No. 857618

>>848426
anotomy is pretty hard anon