Anonymous at Wed, 8 Sep 2021 23:23:34 UTC No. 849440

Even in the virtual world, girls cant look straight to your eyes OP. sad

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Sep 2021 23:31:48 UTC No. 849443

>>849440

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Sep 2021 23:32:52 UTC No. 849444

It can work. Especially in older PS2 games.
OP is deep in the uncanny valley though and borderline nightmare fuel.

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Sep 2021 23:37:07 UTC No. 849445

>>849434
>>849443

this hits right in the uncanny valley

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Sep 2021 23:49:42 UTC No. 849446

>>849444
>>849445
>uncanny valley
>nightmare fuel
really? i don't think she looks bad, in fact she looks really well done.

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Sep 2021 23:51:16 UTC No. 849447

>>849440
>>849445
is she better with blue hair?

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 00:16:30 UTC No. 849449

>>849434
muh dick

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 00:36:41 UTC No. 849450

>>849446
>i don't think she looks bad
I think it's a cultural thing.
People who grew up in the 00s and 10s tend to easily accept designs like this while older generations seem to have completely different standards and are not acclimated to that type of shit and maybe never will.

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 01:09:53 UTC No. 849456

>>849450
wrong, op here gen x industry dinosaur and think this looks pretty good for being a real time render

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 01:58:27 UTC No. 849469

>>849447
her skin almost feels too reflective/transparent. i can see all of her pores, with real people i can't. i don't know if this helps.

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 02:57:24 UTC No. 849477

>>849434
I think you should kill yourself Dilbert.

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 05:21:12 UTC No. 849494

>>849434
Part of the appeal of stylized characters is that one aspect of them is exaggerated. What part of your model do you want to exaggerate? Its not obvious enough for this model.

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 06:13:52 UTC No. 849502

>>849450
Yeah, I don't think she's uncanny at all either. Maybe it's the eyes?

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 07:19:56 UTC No. 849523

>>849434
it can potentially work, but not if it's hopelessly overdone like in your example. her eyes are easily 50% larger (probably more) than normal.
10%? 20%? i can see such (intentional) "mistakes" making a model more interesting, but i also believe if it's pulled off correctly, then a non-trained-person won't be able to tell which part the inaccuracy lies in.

tl;dr: cheat only so little that people can't tell you did
also here's an unrelated picture of a cute girl in tights because this is an imageboard after all

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 08:48:37 UTC No. 849541

>>849447
eye whites should be fully white or the eyes look too uncanny

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 08:54:00 UTC No. 849544

>>849541
it would look uncanny if they were fully white, eyes are flesh colored

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 08:56:37 UTC No. 849546

>>849544
you're the blackest retarded gorilla nigger

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 09:13:46 UTC No. 849547

>>849546
based

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 09:34:55 UTC No. 849550

>>849541
>fully white
what a racist

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 10:32:10 UTC No. 849560

Disregarding all the racist bollocks above I believe anon is correct in that the sclera should be a lot whiter.

I often see eyes with a lot of reds around the corner like that in game art, and I've used this myself at various occasions.
Thing is in the absence of the really advanced fine shading that happens in the eyes you either gotta
add a lot of extra 'faux shadow mesh' type geometry (Final Fantasy XIII is first time I happened upon this technique)
or write special shaders in order to blend the sclera and the eyelid in a believable manner.
Your eyelids are very thick and cast occlusion type shadows from any ambient light in the environment you're in.
At the same time your eyes are covered by a film of fluid that is very reflective and you can see your own eyelid and eyelashes reflected
in the eyes, darkening the perimeter further. Unless you're rendering some really fine GI and supersampled raytracing that wont be enough to pick it up from a distance.

So in the absence of going down a shading rabbithole to fix it a simple and effective hack is to just exaggerate the redness around the corner of sclera (GTAV models for an effective example)
This makes the eye look more properly shaded at a glance and as the eye moves around it still looks more natural than like having a burnt in shadow on the sclera
that will look unnatural as the eye moves.

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 11:08:04 UTC No. 849565

>>849434
Good job op.
>>849523
>Blah blah blah
>Some fat ugly hoe
Kys

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 13:52:54 UTC No. 849593

>>849565
based

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Sep 2021 17:16:06 UTC No. 849623

>>849541
>can't tell the difference between hue, saturation and value
Also imagine thinking OP is the actual artist when it's viral chink art. State of this board.

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Sep 2021 01:46:04 UTC No. 849685

>>849623
This one looks sooo much better

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Sep 2021 02:01:38 UTC No. 849686

>>849685
thats a real woman you absolute retard.

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Sep 2021 02:02:40 UTC No. 849687

>>849686
OOOH...

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Sep 2021 02:06:48 UTC No. 849688

>>849687
>Olga Grinzel
if you absolute need it.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Sep 2021 05:26:44 UTC No. 850382

>>849443
Empty eyed bug is empty eyed and bug even in 3D

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Sep 2021 05:45:08 UTC No. 850387

>>849686
>i have never had real world contact with a woman in my life

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Sep 2021 06:25:41 UTC No. 850391

>>849447
cringe

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Sep 2021 06:26:51 UTC No. 850392

>>849686
cringe 2

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Sep 2021 21:03:47 UTC No. 850808

>>849434
I don't like this particular example. The proportions would be fine if the skin and eyes were just less textured. I think her philtrum is a little low as well, her mouth should be moved up a scooch.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Sep 2021 08:37:29 UTC No. 851652

>>849434
>>849443
A waste of time when they never make it for porn

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Sep 2021 11:29:51 UTC No. 851671

>>849445
You have no fucking idea what UV is, so i assume you're another tourist from /v/.
This image is not deceiving you, or attempting to, it is clearly stylized.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Sep 2021 16:52:32 UTC No. 851700

>>851671
>This image is not deceiving you, or attempting to, it is clearly stylized.

That kinda reveals it's you don't understand what the so called 'uncanny valley' is (and abbreviated UV wth man?).

The idea of the uncanny valley is the observation that as something moves away from cartoon territory and is on the trajectory towards the photorealistic
it's audience appeal dips despite gaining in complexity and requiting more attention and skill to pull it off.

It forms said valley because it dips in appeal despite gaining realism until it passes the floor of the valley and then starts to increase in appeal again.
The idea is you have to be extremely good to reach high on the uphill across that uncanny valley before any attempt at realism will start to pay off.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 06:52:03 UTC No. 851825

>>851700
im afraid this >>851671 zoomer is correct, you boomers are stuck in an era where it was understandable for your generation to feel that uneasy feeling of staring at something unappealing, but zoomers invented something that moves the UV further then you realized, its called stylized art, get with the times grandpa.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 11:09:38 UTC No. 851887

>>851825
I'm sad to report I am a millennial. The uncanny valley wasn't made up by them boomers(1946-1964), it was made up by a dude of the 'Greatest Generation' (1901-1927).
This Japanese robotics professor who coined the term back in the 70's.

Our interpretation as it exist today prob comes from the special effects people in Hollywood who popularized the concept as it relates to the visual arts.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 12:07:18 UTC No. 851897

>>851887
>I'm sad to report I am a millennial.
sure thing boomer.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 12:49:16 UTC No. 851906

>>851825s
Fuck off kiddo

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 12:56:53 UTC No. 851910

>>851897
There are no boomers on 4chan, the youngest boomers would be 57 this year ffs.
Like I know you're one of them memcore parrot fucks that only echo memes to get a rise out of people.
That you use that word because you think it's funny how all the right people think you're retarded if you use it, but damn son.

There has to be some kind of limit.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 13:26:12 UTC No. 851917

>>851910
>There are no boomers on 4chan
have you been to /pol/?

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 13:47:24 UTC No. 851922

>>851917
Those are bots and russian govt backed trolls using american IPs

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 14:07:02 UTC No. 851924

>>851922
take your meds boomer.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 14:58:43 UTC No. 851935

>>851924
it was a joke you twat, why would anyone even use /pol/ when it's a shitty echo chamber that does nothing useful, it's pretty much reddit's r/politics but the other side of the coin

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 20:17:04 UTC No. 851983

>>851917
>have you been to /pol/?

Nah. /pol/ really isn't part of 4chan, it's a containment board for the worst of us to minimize our exposure to the scum that thrives there. A wasteheap of undesirables disguised as imageboard.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 22:11:16 UTC No. 851996

>>851983
based
gas all /pol/ untermensch scum

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Sep 2021 23:55:40 UTC No. 852011

>>851983
>>851996

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 00:21:02 UTC No. 852016

>>849440
Haha. That's cruel but funny lol

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 01:16:51 UTC No. 852018

>>852011
come up with something more creative for once, this one's old

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 01:21:28 UTC No. 852021

>>852018

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 01:35:21 UTC No. 852026

>>852021

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 01:40:56 UTC No. 852028

>>852026

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 13:09:56 UTC No. 852100

>>851700
>copy pastes some shit

I can use Google too motherfuckler, that doesn't change the fact that OP's pic does not trigger any UV (UV bitch) its clearly STYLIZED, it's not cheaply deceiving the viewer like an half assed Daz render. It's doll, it's clearly a doll.

Now fuck off back to /v/ and make a another thread on how "normals" and "PBR" ruined vijagaymes

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 15:15:59 UTC No. 852128

>>852100
You're clearly the one from /v/ here anon using uv of all terms as an abbreviation. To actual t/3/pots uv already means something else you know.
The uncanny valley is not about "trying to deceive you" it is about how you induce this creepy feeling in the observer
as you begin to introduce lifelike elements into something dead and artificial.

> It's doll, it's clearly a doll.

Yeah, and dolls are an excellent example of the uncanny valley, lot of people are very creeped out by dolls and their blank stare glass eyes.
People are not esp afraid of child sized dolls because of 'Chucky', 'Chucky' is a thing because people fear creepy big dolls that look like they could come to life.

Mannequins is another great example, even the abstract ones in clean plastic find their ways into all kinds of games and film as a stock horror props.
Only their limb ratios and overall posture is realistic yet even them set off fear for the uncanny in lots of people.

Obv stylization or obv non human features is not enough to avoid this effect, it kicks in as soon as you start render the human form under any sort of realistic light conditions.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 15:26:58 UTC No. 852133

>>852128
This.
A quick example, those japanese ultra realistic sex dolls are fucking creepy. I don't even know how people fuck these.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:02:24 UTC No. 852144

>>852133
Remember when the internet first became aware that 'Real Dolls' was a thing. Me and my buddy googled our way to some videos of people fucking them
and it was like these weird dude who played horror film type music and clearly tried to give off the vibe he was fucking a corpse.
So some of them are prob people with necrophiliac fantasies getting their rocks off. Others pretend they get to rape someone who's drugged/unconscious and that type of shit.

Then ofc there ware people that are just super awkward,weird and shy who wants to experience having sex (as if)
but is too afraid of being naked together with someone else who can judge them.

I'm a very curious person but after some time of looking into it I determined it was one of those things that files under things you don't really want to know.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 17:12:00 UTC No. 852173

>>852100
Uncanny valley has just become a midwit synonym for "I don't like this aesthetic". Is pic related uncanny valley? It should be, seeing as it's closer to realism than OP, without ever passing for a genuine photo. But my guess is your brain doesn't freak out over it.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 17:17:22 UTC No. 852176

>>852173
It is uncanny.
Look at her porcelain, poreless skin, her completely clean and tiny wrinkle-less face, compared to the body.
She looks like lord farquaad on the first pic. And his model wasn't uncanny like this one.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 18:21:11 UTC No. 852200

>>849469
you can when you watch high definition footage on 4k. its the weirdest thing.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 18:22:47 UTC No. 852201

>>849523
low IQ take. OPs pic obviously goes for appeal, not realism. Real women have no appeal.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 22:07:22 UTC No. 852261

>>852176
>It is uncanny.
the fact is that the gaming industry is moving towards this kind of stylization, many animation studios are doing the same, many asian countries are adopting the style in ops image... what does that say to you? it says to me that the uncanny valley window has moved and your insistence on calling this uncanny valley is just outdated, maybe you should try and keep up in the industry with those outdated terms boomr

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 22:28:21 UTC No. 852268

Look way better than realistic designs. You don't get as much uncanny valley feeling from them. They look non-human enough to not look weird when they don't move and behave in a realistic way.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 22:31:58 UTC No. 852269

>>849443
Obviously she's a paid actress.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:03:44 UTC No. 852272

>>852176
Depending on the distance you cant see pores on peoples faces.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:54:55 UTC No. 852279

>>852261
your mom is outdated
>>852272
Of course, im not saying she should be Spongebob with titties, it's just that its waaay to smooth. I don't even think its the pore thing, her face just looks too flat coloured and artificial.
The hair saves it though

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Sep 2021 01:40:12 UTC No. 852291

>>849434
i like stylized realism but i don't like it when they go with stylized proportions and full realism with the shader
there's a reason pixar never uses those texturingxyz style microdetails for their characters

and i don't like that particular character's face in the first place, regardless of shading

this is the kind of stylized realism that i like

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Sep 2021 04:19:19 UTC No. 852308

>>852291
>this is the kind of stylized realism that i like
i agree a bit, any other good examples?

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Sep 2021 13:04:22 UTC No. 852360

>>852291
that's basically the same level of skin detail just with motion blur

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Sep 2021 13:15:15 UTC No. 852362

>>852176
>It is uncanny
Yea you're right. Millions of people playing the game were suddenly struck by a guttural sensation akin to seeing an irl dead body.

Anonymous at Wed, 22 Sep 2021 14:23:13 UTC No. 852368

>>852362
Same as OP's pic, who's supposed to "le uncanny", you see many people barfing while looking at it?

Uncanny valley refers to deceivingly human but nor quite there, like a bad render, with bad lighting and a blank expression.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Sep 2021 01:21:11 UTC No. 853955

>>849434
>>849443
>>849447
I like it, how did you create this / what tools and workflow did you use OP? Would love to learn more about this.

Also, I personally think the blue hairs look better.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Sep 2021 02:02:57 UTC No. 853961

>>853955
not op, it's done by wang chen, no idea if he does tutorials
https://www.artstation.com/wangchen-cg

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Sep 2021 03:32:45 UTC No. 853973

surprised nobody mentioned FF7R, think they did a bang up job bringing the 90s look into modern PBR environments.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Sep 2021 03:34:04 UTC No. 853974

>>849686
She's just wasting that fucking milk

Anonymous at Fri, 1 Oct 2021 07:41:06 UTC No. 854189

that skin flap on the eyes is weird

post refs?

Anonymous at Fri, 8 Oct 2021 23:30:18 UTC No. 855717

>>849434
>>849443
>>849447
cute ( ꈍᴗꈍ)

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Oct 2021 17:21:30 UTC No. 856010

>>849450
I was born in 1995 and think she looks uncanny as fuck

Anonymous at Sun, 10 Oct 2021 22:32:24 UTC No. 856045

>>856010
its because you have 1 more chromosome.

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Oct 2021 01:23:37 UTC No. 856063

>>856010
i was born in 1975 and just fapped to her

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Oct 2021 08:59:49 UTC No. 856099

>>856045
*homosome

Anonymous at Mon, 11 Oct 2021 09:22:08 UTC No. 856101

It depends on models. Realistic models looks fine with any shader, unrealistic models with realistic shaders looks hideous unless it's the artist intention.

Anonymous at Tue, 12 Oct 2021 22:16:07 UTC No. 856369

Sometimes I don't know what to believe anymore.

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Oct 2021 15:48:16 UTC No. 858033

>>849434
That one's fine. It looks like shit when they try to put wrinkles and old woman skin on anime girls, they're supposed to be young teens/preteens

Anonymous at Sun, 24 Oct 2021 20:28:53 UTC No. 858067

>>849434
somethings off
i would go for something like riven from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF5Ddo9JdpY

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 03:25:47 UTC No. 859537

Getting body proportions correct in 3d is so hard

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 20:53:32 UTC No. 859661

>>853961
>32 days ago
Ah fuck, I'm so sorry Anon, I meant to come back and check for an answer but forgot.

>Link
Thanks! Any clue where I could go if that person doesn't offer tuts?

Anonymous at Tue, 9 Nov 2021 00:12:46 UTC No. 860935

>>851887
I hope you find your fem boy soon.

>>851897
I hope you find your burly bear man soon.

<3 <3 <3

Neither of you wanting to fuck Aki Ross or Alita.. DISGUSTING

Anonymous at Thu, 11 Nov 2021 01:29:01 UTC No. 861422

>>849434
The Square Enix approach is perfect, FF7R being the obvious standout, most Japanese studios do this, they just don't hit the same fidelity as Square Enix.