Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 00:24:47 UTC No. 858929

>>858895
They're not. Most things most people wants to do can be accomplished perfectly reasonable on AMD hardware.
Even if you find the competition is better in some parameters how is that "shit" ?

I've been perfectly happy on AMD for the last ~20 years. I have no brand loyalty.
Just so happens everytime I've built a new rig AMD has had the best bang/buck going during my shopping window.

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 02:59:42 UTC No. 858948

>>858929
>Even if you find the competition is better in some parameters how is that "shit" ?

many CG software literally doesn't even support AMD lmao, go back to /v/

>>858895
Nvidia actually researches and puts money into the pro market, AMD doesn't, what else can you say?

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 04:07:29 UTC No. 858954

>>858948
>many CG software literally doesn't even support AMD lmao, go back to /v/

All the ones I've used for the last 25 years certainly do. Which are these 'many' of which you speak?

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 04:27:13 UTC No. 858956

AMD makes crypto mining cards that happen to be usable as shitty video game adapters

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 04:46:16 UTC No. 858957

>>858954
The ones Nvidia bullied into relying on CUDA.

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 04:56:45 UTC No. 858959

>>858954
Arnold GPU
V-ray GPU
Karma XPU
Redshift
Embergen

+ lots of software that "supports" AMD doesn't work right with it like substance painter (glitchy as hell)

tldr: back to /v/

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 04:57:00 UTC No. 858960

>>858957
Do people really have to worry about hardware if they're doing CGI tho? How many people really render something substantial at home?
Haven't been into offline rendering since the early 2000's.
If you work highend VFX or CGI surely your studio has workstations and a renderfarm and you don't even think about the hardware.

I pivoted to realtime since before CUDA existed so I've never been bottlenecked even at times I've had only weak hardware availible.
You can make graphics for the most elaborate AAA production on hardware that can't even run the game you're making it for.

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 04:58:28 UTC No. 858961

>>858959
So CGI then. Are you actually doing stuff like that on your own hardware outside a studio?

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 05:06:14 UTC No. 858963

>>858961
uh yes I do make use of my computer to render images. I have personal projects.

Is your point that AMD is at good at 3d as Nvidia as long as you don't make anything? I mean I agree...

>>858960
I use unreal engine most of the time, guess what it works better on nvidia cards. The only reason to ever not buy a nvidia card for 3d work is if you are some sort of hopeless contrarian, you unnecessarily lock yourself out of some options while also receiving worse performance back, amazing.

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 05:19:35 UTC No. 858965

>>858963
>The only reason to ever not buy a nvidia card for 3d work is if you are some sort of hopeless contrarian
Or, you know, because it's cheaper. Or because it runs on macOS. Or because you use a CPU renderer. Or because you use it for tasks other than CUDA rendering, you hopeless contrarian.

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 05:26:36 UTC No. 858967

>>858963
>Is your point that AMD is at good at 3d as Nvidia as long as you don't make anything? I mean I agree...

You're really knocking over them strawmans there, good for you anon putting such retarded words in my mouth you can easily defeat.

What I am saying is i can drive the interface of any DCC with several million polygons on display and edit 4K maps with ~hundred layers
no problem on my 5year old midrange AMD machine I keep at home.

If every now and and then I have to bake something on CPU that takes a few minutes to finish what is that too me?
I can stretch my legs or go make coffee or something.

I just don't see the scenario where you must sit and render elaborate scenes on a single machine at your home using expensive top of the line cards
when you can complete heavy renderstask in seconds connecting to a proper renderfarm. Unless.... Are you like a daz coomer or something anon?

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 05:32:30 UTC No. 858968

>>858965
>Or, you know, because it's cheaper.

not currently

>Or because it runs on macOS.

lol

>Or because you use a CPU renderer.

which you wouldn't need to if you had a nvidia card.

>Or because you use it for tasks other than CUDA rendering

which tasks are AMD cards better at? you can't name one, they don't exist.

>>858967
it's nice that you want to defend your purchase but every single thing you do with 3d will be faster or better with an equivalent nvidia card, be happy with your purchase now that you've got it but when it's time to buy a new card you are simply an idiot to not buy a nvidia card. It will perform better in every single software, the benchmarks are out there, this is hard objective truth.

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 05:38:10 UTC No. 858970

>>858968
Thank you, Paid Nvidia Shill #86032. I'll be sure to purchase an Nvidia™ RTX® Quadro® graphics card for my next computer based on your comprehensive and unbiased testimony.

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 05:44:56 UTC No. 858972

>>858970
and here the contrarian reveals themselves, as if I didn't know all along.

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 05:54:22 UTC No. 858973

>>858968
>it's nice that you want to defend your purchase
>be happy with your purchase now that you've got it

That's the thing right there. I don't care if I'm on AMD, Nvidia or anything else anon, what I do care about is fanbois being fanbois.
Like I can tell from your typing how you feel insulted when someone uses the "wrong brand" of equipment. It's just fucking silly anon.

I work realtime as I stated and for me obsessing about having the most bleeding edge hardware available just isn't a factor.
If a PC can run the game I'm working on it'll be capable of anything I need it to do.

>The porsche owner worships the badge of his garagequeen while the race driver laps him in a shitbox with mismatched tyres.

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 06:35:32 UTC No. 858978

>>858973
>Like I can tell from your typing how you feel insulted when someone uses the "wrong brand" of equipment. It's just fucking silly anon.

I have an AMD processor, I love AMD. You are still an idiot if you buy an AMD gpu for CG work.

You're making it so much more complicated than it needs to be, one is simply objectively inferior for CG work.

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 07:18:20 UTC No. 858981

>>858978
I never said I love AMD, you said I love AMD and that I am an idiot for buying what was the best value for my purposes at the time.

Can't you see how you're being an absolute ridiculous fanboi for airing such notions?

>You're making it so much more complicated than it needs to be, one is simply objectively inferior for CG work.

No it's not anon, same way a Porche GT3 RS isn't a simply objectively superior car to your daily driver
if all you need is to go 60mph on the freeway running regular errands and sit at stop lights during a daily commute.
For this it's expensive hot and loud and what it can do isn't necessarily something you'll ever ask of it.

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 08:48:21 UTC No. 858986

AMD doesnt even offer value cards anymore, they used to be budget competitor for JEWIDIA but since the crypto bullshit they went full jewish and didnt lower prices back even after the crash.
AMD now is basically NVIDIA with less features and performance for basically the same price.

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 09:54:57 UTC No. 858990

>>858986
Can't wait for the day governments realize the immense threat unregulated currency pose and crack down on it's legality.

In a decently ran universe anyone running a cryptofarm would've been reaper droned for enabling ransomware and contraband.

Anonymous at Fri, 29 Oct 2021 10:03:16 UTC No. 858993

AMD actively fucked over the Octane devs.
Octane was working on an AMD port and needed AMD to get certain things done on their end.
Initially AMD was along for the ride but at some point they just stopped responding and the project died.

AMD unveiled Prorender some time later.

There's a reason why Octane and Redshift both have native Metal versions that run on AMD cards but no win/linux equivalent.

Whoever's been running this part of the AMD operation has been mismanaging it for years and quite frankly, unless they turn up at the doors of these companies and pay for the ports, no one should bother.