Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 19:14:37 UTC No. 859209

>>859206
what do u mean?

blender has a great modeling system, literally one of the few workflows where blender isn't terribly behind industry tools.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 19:17:43 UTC No. 859210

>>859206
Why not use both? if some things are easier in one program, do what you need to do and then go back to blender again.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 19:35:38 UTC No. 859216

>>859209
>what do u mean?
Look at the video it used a time stamp 11:00

>what do u mean?
>where blender isn't terribly behind industry tools.
I literally can not bridge geometry like this. Sure you can create faces (when blender feels like it) however this is all I then would need to deform the created faces and add extra cuts to make them behave normally and this takes time, extra ways of creating geometry that are not in blender. .

>where blender isn't terribly behind industry tools.
Out of curiosity in what areas is blender behind and in what areas is it not behind ? In your opinion ?

>>859210
>Why not use both?
I will not stop using blender however the more I learn about what Zbrush can do I see what insane amount of time and money was sinked into Zbrush.

>some things are easier in one program
I’m a modeler so I do not give a shit about the other things.

>Why not
I did say that blender looks like MS Paint of 3D modeling and I stand by this. At first I was dismissing the other benefits like the ability to dynamically changing the resolution of a cylinder since I was thinking this is only fancy nonsense (you just decide the geometry you need in advance like a real man !).

Look at blenders bevel tool and this bevel tool.
Blender can not copy the exact beveling on other parts, Zbrush can.
See why it is MS Paint ?

You literally can not bridge geometry like this in blender. You can connect things vertex by vertex and then do something with this or hope some auto tool lets you do this (in only 20% of cases) however this level of fluid bridging is not possible.

In blender 3D objects are flimsy connections of vertexes that if opened and fucked up like this will fuck themselves over and even the repair tools (who are hidden BTW) can not un fuck this then you need to fix this by hand. You need to in advance be aware of this.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 20:48:14 UTC No. 859227

>>859216
wht the fuck are you on about?
>I will not stop using blender
i didnt tell you to stop using Blender, i told you to use both. if something bothers you that much to do in one program, then use the program that dont bother you...

>’m a modeler so I do not give a shit about the other things. then why are you bitching about this one thing? Have you looked for an addon that can do this one specific thing?

>Why not
>I did say that blender looks like MS Paint of 3D modeling
wtf are you even responding to here?
Is this thread just another schizo ploy to start a software war you can mastrubate too?

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 21:22:03 UTC No. 859235

>>859227
>wht the fuck are you on about?
Watch the video.
>wtf are you even responding to here?
Prove that you can not draw anything you want in MS paint or drop this subject.

Also answer this question:
>where blender isn't terribly behind industry tools.
Out of curiosity in what areas is blender behind and in what areas is it not behind ? In your opinion ?

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 21:32:42 UTC No. 859237

>>859235
you are the only one that keep bringing the whole MSpaint thing when NO ONE is saying anything about it.
Yes i understand what is happening in the video i understand that it takes longer to do it in Blender. But if that is such a fucking problem for you, use Zbrush, get a addon that does that specific thing or make that addon yourself.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 21:36:02 UTC No. 859238

>>859206
mmmh, i am shure the bridge tool in blender kinda works similar. select 2 loops, bridge them and then adjust the resolution and curve. shure, there are some nuances that work different, but i dont see a big problem here.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 21:40:46 UTC No. 859239

>>859238
Post video demonstrating it in blender.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 21:41:11 UTC No. 859240

>>859206
?

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 21:42:43 UTC No. 859241

>>859237
>you are the only one that keep bringing the whole MSpaint
YES.
Because you literally can do everything in MS paint only it will take more time, you don't need to have layers to draw.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 21:43:49 UTC No. 859242

>>859240
I did not know blender can do that, now show hot to do the rest of what he is doing in the video.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 21:45:41 UTC No. 859243

>>859242
bevels? blender has that as tool and as non destructive modifier too

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 21:53:04 UTC No. 859247

>>859206
I have no idea about Zbrush but lost at.
>Save Ztool, muh Ztool, Ztool
Is it really that fucked kek?

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 22:00:49 UTC No. 859249

>>859247
Not OP, but a blendlet that recently bought Zbrush when it was on sale.
Menu, tools, saving, navigation. its so fucking obnoxious to use.
But the sculpting. its so smooth and nice to use.
So the way i do it to keep my sanity is to use GOB addon to move my sculpts back and forth with a click from Zbrush so i keep my interactions with the menus to a minimum.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 22:06:44 UTC No. 859252

>>859247
Conceptually Zbrush was made by a contrarian german that labeled everything highly unconventionally.
Like it's made to just piss you off even when you know what you're doing.
Much like a car where you steer the vehicle with the gearstick like a joystick and switch gears by flicking the steering wheel left or right.
With some familiarization you can drive it no problem but it'll still keep pissing you off someone went out of their way to set it up like that.

It's not just some assbackwards interface. Oh the ass is there allrite but it's labeled 'face tool'
but it's not located where you expect the face nor ass to be, it is in the armpit. Only this armpit is located at the back of the third knee.
It's that kind of experience.

Anonymous at Sat, 30 Oct 2021 22:13:42 UTC No. 859253

>>859242
>has no knowledge about blender
>watches zbrush tutorial with trivial features
>bLeNdEr iS MsPaiNt oF 3d!

get a grip faggot

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 00:41:17 UTC No. 859289

>/3/ is so fucking stupid that even when they come to the right conclusion (you need zbrush, blender by itself ain't enough) it's for the wrong reasons

with that being said, if you want your brain melted check out Id tech straight up poly modelling the doom slayer in zmodeler.

https://youtu.be/7sEr-VMTR4g?t=18492

Ultramasochists

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 00:52:19 UTC No. 859293

>>859249
>bought zbrush

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 00:56:45 UTC No. 859295

>>859293
if you got the money you do it eventually just for the convenience of the updates, I pirated zbrush for years then got it legit because why not, it's a one time purchase with free updates and I use it every day.

I would still of course recommend all people new to zbrush pirate it to get a feel on it.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 00:57:18 UTC No. 859296

>>859293
yeees. very good. i bought it with mooooneeeey. because i have a surplus amount of it so i can afford it.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 00:58:31 UTC No. 859297

>>859296
i have a surplus amount of money and i'm still not handing over a single penny to any of those fucks.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 01:01:57 UTC No. 859299

>>859297
the fucking state of this place.
If you use Blender that is wrong, need to use industry standard.
But if you buy that is also wrong. Have to pirate it.
Piss off.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 01:06:45 UTC No. 859300

>>859299
zbrush is the only software I don't pirate, subs can get fucked.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 01:12:27 UTC No. 859301

>>859296
I have a surplus of sperm but that doesn't mean I'll be cumming everywhere

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 01:21:31 UTC No. 859303

You should be modeling procedurally, in slowdini.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 02:33:20 UTC No. 859317

>>859242
>I did not know blender can do that
It's painfully obvious that there's a lot of things you don't know.
So pretending that your lack of ability is the fault of the program is fucking retarded.
You've probably fucked around for a month and suddenly thing you know everything about the program and can make a solid judgement about its capabilities, but you've barely scratched the surface.

Come back in a year and then try complaining.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 05:05:40 UTC No. 859367

>>859317
>Come back in a year and then try complaining.
Oh did you get angry ?
Show all the features that the video shows.

>Come back in a year and then try complaining.
LOL Sorry, NO you show me the tutorials that talk about these options in blender.
>b-b-b-b-b just spend more time in blender
Bullshit ! Show where I can learn about these hidden features.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 05:30:17 UTC No. 859368

>>859299
blender is a good modelling tool... im still not going to pay for zbrush and substance though

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 05:41:46 UTC No. 859370

>>859240
OP gruesomely BTFO

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 05:49:33 UTC No. 859371

>>859367
>spitting on the more knowledgeable in an esoteric artform instead of heeding their advice
you're not making anyone want to teach you lmao

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 06:04:06 UTC No. 859372

>>859289
>if you want your brain melted
OK my body is ready show that.
>doom slayer in zmodeler.
I think literally everyone knew the nu-doom shit was modeled in zbrush the fact that all mechanical parts look like they are made out of playdoo by a retarded 3 year old and look like shit says this.

I have no idea why anyone bring up trash like nu-doom as anything good. Or modeled good.

I'm sorry what was supposed to melt my brain ?
Some fagots clicking around in zbrush while sucking one others dick how pro they are ?
Boolians ? Since ages in blender.
>HERP DERP you can not make an ngon
If you use the voxel remasher in blender you get the same thing, only nice quads.

>boolians on top of boolians
I'm sorry was this supposed to impress anyone ? This is literally basic blender stuff. This impress no one and only makes Zfags look even more retarded then they are.
Yes Zfags you should be ashamed that your shit software does not have proper layers or objects and you think layering boolians on top of one another is an accomplishment, Do you do something as retarded as going Ztool++, Ztool, Ztool--? I have seen a fagot literally abuse hide object to delete something and did not realize everyone is laughing how retarded this is in blender you can simply hide or delete objects you have this list of objects you can manipulate and press an eye icon to hide it from view or press the delete button to delete it. Do not pretend Zbrush UI is not fuckend beyond belief and needs a serious overhaul. If you are not having 3 layers of boolians on top of one another in blender in your model you should reconsider stopping to use blender or 3D.

And all the shit he shows is nothing more then boolians used for decorations.

Also YIKES, Like 40 minutes after your time stamp the idiot clumsily stumbles trying to add a boolian to a model, YIKES.

1/2

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 06:05:12 UTC No. 859373

>>859289
>>859372
2/2

Yea the auto sharpen from base mesh is cute however it has the trademark retarded play doo look that Zbrush gives.

They should delete this video from youtube and re-upload it to porn hub and tag it under
# dick sucking circle
# Zbrush

Because its the same shit of
>Hey look at what cool stuff I modeled
>NO I will not show how I modeled it simply look at the finished model
>Here let me make pokes that I undo to show you the model, let me quickly undo them.
>Let me awkwardly add this one detail in here

No one is fucken watching this 7h and 30 minute bullshit in hopes of seeing something useful. Oh and I was watching it at 200% and I wish there was an option to watch at 400% since its still slow as fuck.

>VR goggle modeling
YAWN, a 12 year old child can do this in blender. I can fucken model you VR googles in no time in blender.
>Let me skip to the next step where I do not show any of my modeling only talk about it.
Waist of time !

I’m OP and shit videos like this made me laugh how retarded Zbrush is. You obviously never modeled in anything that is not Zbrush in your life.

I stopped watching this shit video from 5:08 to 6:00 WAIST OF TIME !

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 06:09:58 UTC No. 859374

>>859371
>>spitting on the more knowledgeable
YES.
>instead of heeding their advice
OK you showed me the rest of the things in blender and I eat my hat.
If not you managed to find 1 (ONE) thing of all of them blender can do.

>HAHAHA you asking me to show how to do the rest is literally spitting on me
>Ha if you ask people to teach you people will never teach you.
Cool story. Show that or you are proven wrong.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 06:11:27 UTC No. 859375

imagine if /3/ had a schizo filter

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 06:25:36 UTC No. 859376

>>859374
Not even the same anon, kek. People give you solid advice and you ignore it, I mean, if you think you're actually better than the people who are handing you free advice (gold when learning), post your work. If we're amazed, we're btfo, but I know you won't because you haven't made anything worth posting.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 06:31:59 UTC No. 859377

>>859375
>imagine if /3/ had a schizo filter
We don't deserve it. This is the hell we made for ourselves.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 08:31:38 UTC No. 859384

>>859367
If you actually are serious then be specific about which parts you think are impossible in blender I'll attempt to prove you wrong, but I'm not gonna spend hours recreating his video in blender for a troll.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 08:50:42 UTC No. 859385

>>859375
/3/ IS the schizo filter.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 08:51:45 UTC No. 859386

>>859384
>I'm not gonna spend hours recreating his video
It is only 10 minutes from 11:00 to 20:00 He can simply extract and cut easily there. Sure I can do this in blender only it will be longer.

> I'll attempt to prove you wrong
Thanks the point is not that blender can not do this, blender can only it takes longer to do this and is not this level of fast.

>for a troll.
I'm not a troll and I love to know how to do this in blender.

Try to show me this in blender
https://youtu.be/UJ1-UfKfzh0?t=806
Half cylinder on the side of a cube in seconds.

https://youtu.be/UJ1-UfKfzh0?t=839
Poping out a copy like this

https://youtu.be/UJ1-UfKfzh0?t=924
Cutting holes like this.
Especially how he just created a circle on it there.

I know how to do it in blender however it will take x5 more time and steps.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 09:00:10 UTC No. 859389

>>859386
In the previous posts you were literally asking to be shown how to do it, no where did you said you thought it could be done just it would take longer. You were implying they couldn't be done in blender.

Can zbrush create complex materials like blender can?
Can zbrush do motion graphics and vision composition like blender can?
Can zbrush do any video editing?
How's zbrush animating going? Tell me is it faster to animate in blender or zbrush?

Don't claim you aren't a troll when it's clear you are.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 09:17:04 UTC No. 859393

>>859389
>You were implying they couldn't be done in blender.
Read the OP post

>Sure I can do whatever he is doing in that video however it will take me x20 times longer.
>Is blender the MS Paint of 3D software ?

You literally exposed yourself. This is in the last line of OP.

>You were implying they couldn't
VS
>Sure I can do whatever he is doing in that video however it will take me x20 times longer.

Can you even read words ?

The MS paint example is perfect remember as long as you can move vertices and connect them you can model anything only it will take a long time. For example you can manually create gradients in MS paint only it will be x2000 slower then in GIMP. Blender is not this level of hardcore however doing this takes time and if you are modeling something this adds up.

>a troll

I still want to see how you can do it in blender I love to learn new skills and if I’m a retard who never learned a faster way then show it to me sanpai.

>Can zbrush
>video editing
>animating
>create complex materials
Jack of all trades master of none. I only care about modeling. I already need to split parts of a model into separate blend files then copy hard join them and import into the main model file.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:16:01 UTC No. 859398

>>859393
>I only care about modeling
>Compares a sculpting program to a modelling program
:^)
Fucking ESLs

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:33:29 UTC No. 859400

>>859398
>Fucking ESLs
Yet the criticism is valid.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 10:39:34 UTC No. 859401

>>859252
Based. This is exactly how I feel when using zbrush, especially when I just switched from a traditional package to get something sculpted for my bigger project.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 12:17:19 UTC No. 859409

>>859386
>>859393

STFU just take the loop tool add on and bridge faces shortcut and pls gtfo and make something

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 12:33:56 UTC No. 859413

>>859409
Show how you do it in blender.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 15:04:56 UTC No. 859432

>>859216
>You literally can not bridge geometry like this in blender.

...when i need a functionality that blender doesnt offer, i write an addon!

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 16:23:38 UTC No. 859440

>>859386

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 16:25:17 UTC No. 859441

the next one will be a paid lesson

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 16:31:17 UTC No. 859442

>>859440
bruh, you're gonna make his brain explode

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 18:10:17 UTC No. 859454

>>859440
Holy hell dude, I came to laugh at the troll not to get my mind blown

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 18:37:14 UTC No. 859459

>>859440
What is the second tool (boolean) you are using? Never seen it in blender

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 18:48:13 UTC No. 859461

>haha you don't now, why don't you doing the needful and show me?
why don't you kys, cris? just use the sqt

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 19:14:45 UTC No. 859465

>>859459
that's the add mesh that Dobarro did a year ago or so, I think it was added in the 2.9, I use also the snap to vertex and after that i do intersect bolean.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 19:54:22 UTC No. 859471

>>859440
is this on the default blender program?
wow

how come i never knew about this, i just subdivided faces and then used looptools to make them look like a circle, then extreduded dowm

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 20:03:54 UTC No. 859476

>>859471
>is this on the default blender program?
Yes that's 3.1 Alpha but vanilla blender 2.93 has those things too.

Anonymous at Sun, 31 Oct 2021 21:27:14 UTC No. 859493

>>859206
If u dont want to learn hardsurfsce in zbrush just import from blender, focus more on the organic shit

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 08:40:49 UTC No. 859566

>>859465
thank you

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 09:46:11 UTC No. 859573

>>859206
what is wrong with you people? the only thing you need to create masterpieces are the standard, dam standard, clay buildup and move brushes. that is literally it.

Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 20:39:11 UTC No. 859658

>>859573
Now he's gonna want a video from you showing EXACTLY how to do it.
Might as well do it for the specific model he needs too so he knows that it applies to it.

You know what, just make the model for him.

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 02:54:56 UTC No. 859721

>>859573
They think in numbers and tricks, they don't understand the "soul" of the object.

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 04:26:10 UTC No. 859727

>>859573
Lmao this dude isn't a clip curve chad

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:14:53 UTC No. 859766

>>859727
>clip curve
>>859573
Because I'm a blender user I exclusively model using parametric modeling and barely interact with sculpting tools if ever.

Parametric modeling is great if you are doing machinery and other things like this.

You tell me how using sculpting will work for replicating something like this.

Parametric modeling is a very CAD like way of creating objects.

Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 12:19:30 UTC No. 859777

>>859240
>>859440
Not the OP, is there a guide somewhere on similar tricks, workarounds, clever uses of simple tools to create more complex geometries ? Or is it just a matter of experience? I'm a beginner and this blew my mind, I'd have done that in at least 10x the time it took you

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Nov 2021 06:18:44 UTC No. 860350

Zbrush is unable to properly complete this function due to a shitty drm/crack

WHAT FILE DO I DELETE
WHAT DO I DISALLOW
WHY DOES IT KEEP CRASHING.

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Nov 2021 06:40:38 UTC No. 860351

>>860350
block it in your firewall

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Nov 2021 10:36:41 UTC No. 860375

>>860350
MS Paint doesn't have that problem :^)

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Nov 2021 11:02:47 UTC No. 860385

>>859777
Git gud is always the answer

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Nov 2021 11:26:46 UTC No. 860387

Blendchads once again vindicated

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Nov 2021 13:36:56 UTC No. 860405

>>859206
HA HA
>>859372
take your schizo meds
>>859373
same faggot
>>859393
schizo faggot

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Nov 2021 14:33:57 UTC No. 860412

>>860385
I know bro but there are some hidden gems of this kind on some obscure YT channels sometimes.

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Nov 2021 16:07:37 UTC No. 860439

>>860412
look up blender secrets

Anonymous at Sat, 6 Nov 2021 16:48:55 UTC No. 860450

>>860351
It was the GozConfig file that was fucking me
I actually figured it out not to long after the post.
Blocking the exe in firewall you still get crashes.
The GozConfig is in users/Public/pixelogic..
And not in the install location.
You have to set the GozConfig file to read only.