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Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:18:04 UTC No. 859592
Why are there so few women in 3d cgi? In theory seems like art should be right in their alley.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:40:58 UTC No. 859595
It's technical and pretty objective (well, it's not like 2D art is not objective, but blatant bullshit won't fly as easily in 3D as it does in 2D).
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:43:54 UTC No. 859598
Idk, it’s probably too technical for the majority of them. I notice a lot of them in sculpting, texturing and stylized fields of 3D where there is the most creativity involved. Modeling and other more technical fields are full of wannabe male engineers.
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Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:46:13 UTC No. 859600
Because you literally have to throw your life into years of hard study. The unknown- the quest for the knowledge of How; chopping deeper into the technical jungle. Conquest of the mind..
Hell, look at the scientists, mathematicians, sculptors, painters- all throughout history. I don't mean this is a way that is sexist- obviously "society structure" plays a part- But I think that biologically, women do not seek the same raw conquest and the hunt within the sea of unknown that manifests male. These traits, they stem from our mating instincts. In modern day, this even applies- But with layers and layers of abstraction between the quest and that primal sex drive- to the surface mind, this is not apparent. And some will not even allow themselves to dig far enough into their mind to prove this sole reason behind the struggles they undergo
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:48:29 UTC No. 859601
>>859592
It's more technical than other forms of art, I guess. They're fairly present in drawing/writing/acting/etc. There are also plenty of female vocalists, instrumentalists and performers, but very few composers or sound engineers.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:51:09 UTC No. 859602
>>859600
But never forget- When you're losing sleep over some task or objective- Remember to laugh at the nature of it all- and power on forward. Because that's what we do
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Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 13:54:21 UTC No. 859603
>>859598
Pretty much. Every time you see a behind the scenes video, the concept artist behind a model is a girl and the rigger is a sweaty asian neckbeard.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 14:06:34 UTC No. 859605
>>859592
Um ever heard of The Patriarchy chud?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 14:20:39 UTC No. 859607
The Patriarchy is desigenuously gatekeeping them with gaslighting and dogwhistles.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 16:09:08 UTC No. 859620
>>859592
why do so many polls suggest there is something wrong unless everything is divided evenly 50/50?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 16:32:25 UTC No. 859624
>>859620
its not a poll its youtube video statistics from some blender tutorial.
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Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 18:35:11 UTC No. 859635
>>859620
A consequence of the mental disease called equality of outcome.
As statistics have shown again and again, quite ironically: the more egalitarian a society is, the more natural gender expression becomes statistically visible.
If the majority or 50% of 3D artists in western society are not female, then the females don't want to, or have other reasons for not choosing to be a 3D artist. Simple as that.
>>859624
that statistic is off by a magnitude of order
see pic related. (shows the US)
source:
https://www.zippia.com/3d-artist-jo
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 18:49:25 UTC No. 859638
>>859635
>Unknown 6.4%
how does that happen?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 18:51:59 UTC No. 859639
>>859624
>>859635
i never implied theres something wrong with it, just asked for a reason in such a big disparity
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 19:09:22 UTC No. 859643
>>859638
imprecise public data
>>859639
This thread gave you the right answers, there is not much more to say about it unless you dive deep into personal experiences of individuals.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 19:47:24 UTC No. 859648
>>859592
the game is rigged from the start
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releas
"Sex Difference On Spatial Skill Test Linked To Brain Structure"
>Men consistently outperform women on spatial tasks, including mental rotation, which is the ability to identify how a 3-D object would appear if rotated in space. Now, a University of Iowa study shows a connection between this sex-linked ability and the structure of the parietal lobe, the brain region that controls this type of skill.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 20:41:03 UTC No. 859659
>>859592
3D art is technical. Women can't into that.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 21:20:05 UTC No. 859669
>>859659
THIS.
it's not related to brain structure or shit. Simply, working with the UI in Autodesk Maya can make any woman want to kill herself
*us men too*.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 21:25:30 UTC No. 859671
>>859638
Gender idiocy.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 21:55:01 UTC No. 859673
>>859592
It's unusual for women to be hardcore nerdy about anything that requires a huge investment of time to the detriment of all other fields of life.
Esp if there are no interactions or recognition for what you're doing before you approach the apex of skill.
Also 3D is this kinda boundary between art and engineering an handles precise geometry and spaces.
Spatial reasoning is an area where females as a whole score significantly lower than males as a whole on average.
So you the deck is both culturally and genetically stacked against you to make a 3D artist characterbuild if you picked woman as your gender.
Sure you can spend extra points in Intelligence while maybe lowering your Charisma or roll a special trait that displaces your subclass basestats.
But I mean why? If you wanna play 3Dartist you might just build a pure compromised neckbeard who is immune to BO and comes with a dick that points straight to success.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 21:57:15 UTC No. 859674
>>859673
wh... what did you say?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 22:14:48 UTC No. 859675
>>859673
What about trannies? They are overrepresented in programming / scripting crap but not in 3D it seems.
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 22:47:21 UTC No. 859677
>>859635
>If the majority or 50% of 3D artists in western society are not female, then the females don't want to, or have other reasons for not choosing to be a 3D artist. Simple as that.
Then HR tries to hire more females to solve this "problem".
Anonymous at Mon, 1 Nov 2021 23:32:27 UTC No. 859681
>>859592
3D is surprisingly still pretty niche as a hobby even though it continues to get more mainstream as a mediun. Women generally don't adopt into things until they've become popular enough as a means to strengthen a community around them. With that said there are some women who do get into it but are obviously outliers like Jean Bolte who actually helped enhance 3D.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 00:48:31 UTC No. 859698
thread full of incels and weirdo 'nice guys' who think they're actually feminists
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 02:35:12 UTC No. 859718
>>859698
Nobody here thinks they are a feminist as this is a stupid position.
Let me be a 'nice guy' mansplaining it for your piss-poor functioning shit-for-brain.
Feminist isn't meaning what it implies, it is rather a verbal trojan horse.
People who call themself feminists are either ignorant about the fact it is nothing but a political power struggle or they are believing that woman are superior and should have all the power (them included), or they are stupid males who think they gain favour from woman.
People who mean well and try to help others and who have an ounce of intelligence have long stopped referring to themself as feminist and prefer other terms to describe their activity as "feminist" is totally misleading and useless, except for dog-whistling and virtue signalling.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 02:43:03 UTC No. 859719
>>859673
Quality post. Visiting /3/ today was worth it.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 02:44:22 UTC No. 859720
>>859677
It is not a "problem" and it can't be "solved", only way to get 50/50 numbers would be to force females to do it.
The only thing HR is doing is undermining the success of the business by hiring subpar workers like with everything related to the equality of outcome ideology. Its simply delusional to think that this is desirable, productive or leads to success.
Sure giveaway that the goals of this ideology aren't the well-being of people but rather a deliberate systemic sabotage.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 06:52:11 UTC No. 859741
>>859592
Ah, I bet the 1.9% are troons, mostly
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 07:24:13 UTC No. 859744
>>859720
To steelman the position a bit, their reasoning is that women not getting into programming/engineering/other technical fields is down to socialization and stereotypes rather than innate biological differences, and if we could get more women interested in the fields with social engineering, the gap would narrow and society would therefore become more just.
The list of things we could do in service of this goal ranges from inoffensive "girls can code too, coding is cool!!" school programs, to propaganda tactics like changing every illustration and stock photo to a black woman, to making workplace cultures more female friendly (because of the notion that women contribute a different perspective and are thus worth restructuring "bro spaces" for), and eventually to outright fucking hiring underqualified women and hoping that doesn't backfire.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 08:12:20 UTC No. 859754
>>859718
lmao, write me another essay, incel
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 10:42:32 UTC No. 859761
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 10:49:12 UTC No. 859763
>>859744
>To steelman the position a bit, their reasoning is that women not getting into programming/engineering/other technical fields is down to socialization and stereotypes rather than innate biological differences, and if we could get more women interested in the fields with social engineering, the gap would narrow and society would therefore become more just.
I understand their reasoning, but their conclusions are wrong and their strategies are retarded.
First, society becomes more just when woman do 50% of certain jobs?
I can actually accept the goal for justice, but If equality and justice where truly their core argument and motivation then why is nobody talking about reaching 50% females in waste collection?
Oh right. Equality and justice is only ever relevant when it is about prestigious, powerful, meaningful or well paid jobs and about how females can get the position they want, never about males doing shitty, dangerous and unhealthy jobs even if they don't want to.
They contradict their own reasoning with their own behaviour and pretend its not glaringly obvious - either they are absolutely retarded or have evil intend, either way they can't be trusted on top of the fact that their conclusion is still wrong since humans are not equal in ability and preference and never will be.
Also biological differences can be as strong in-between individuals of the same sex as they are in-between males and females.
Case in point, my father is a programmer and I don't have the brain for programming despite being the offspring of one. No amount of socialization and stereotyping will change that, not to mention that I am not willing and no amount of social engineering will change that either.
Why should any of that be different for females?
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 10:50:27 UTC No. 859764
>>859761
lmao, bruh look at these nerds writing paragraphs on 4chan's /3/ board
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:55:12 UTC No. 859772
>>859669
>Maya UI
>difficult
Nigger have you seen Blender? Fuck that shit.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 11:57:03 UTC No. 859773
>>859592
most women I've seen are either in higher-up lead or senior positions where they oversee pods or groups of artists, or spend most of their time touching up work sent in from outsourced 3DCG/VFX houses.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 14:01:25 UTC No. 859790
>>859772
Lol, Blender has a few single-row and single-column menus at the edges and one smaller right click menu. Meanwhile just pie menus in Maya are literally insane + a gigantic shelf on top and menus all around the viewport.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 18:19:18 UTC No. 859825
>>859772
>>859790
Yes, both UI's are far from perfect, but I have never seen an UI for an program with comparable complexity that had a perfect UI.
Name one if you have!
You are also both overacting and bitching like woman bleeding from their vagina.
Bitching about it is one thing, accepting and dealing with reality is the other. You are both stuck in a rebel phase.
I am using both Maya and Blender and I can switch from one to the other and start working immediately without hiccups and pain in my brain.
If you can use one but not the other than you suck. Simple as that.
>Meanwhile just pie menus in Maya are literally insane
Insanely fast if you know them and use them blindly just like pie menus except packed with more functions and accessible with less shortcuts.
>a gigantic shelf on top
Which easily can be turned off or given a shortcut to switch between on/off - just like the N or T panel in Blender. This is only a "problem" if you are a retard.
>menus all around the viewport.
There are 4 sets of different menus that all fill the whole width of the program - a testament to the fact that Maya has 10+ times more tools/functions than Blender.
Question smooth-brain, how would you make all these accessible if not with menus that are grouped by their disciplines?
Despite Maya being massive in comparison to Blender, I still can find stuff faster in Maya's menus, since the tools/functions are grouped logically and there are no modes that change visibility of tools or order of the menus. Its consistent.
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 19:40:59 UTC No. 859832
>>859825
take some blood pressure meds, they're just arguing over their preferred software lmao. that shit happens like once a day on here, it isn't that big of a deal
Anonymous at Tue, 2 Nov 2021 20:33:03 UTC No. 859843
>>859825
I have worked fine with 'difficult' UIs like Houdini, Lightwave or Softimage 3D. Also no prob with MAX or Maya. Strangely, Blender
s, Modo's and ZBrush's UIs never really 'clicked' with me. I'm a man for the record.
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Anonymous at Wed, 3 Nov 2021 01:02:28 UTC No. 859888
>>859592
girls can't do shit other than suck dick
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Nov 2021 05:16:14 UTC No. 859920
>>859843
Count your blessings. Had you preferred Blender's UI, you wouldn't be able to call yourself a man.
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Anonymous at Wed, 3 Nov 2021 05:26:30 UTC No. 859921
>>859592
Because if a woman wants t make money all you have to do is spread your disgusting meat flaps. If a man wants to make money he literally has to invent culture and build the world so he can afford to pay for that rank ass disgusting pussy.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Nov 2021 05:56:10 UTC No. 859922
>>859592
Because, according to all of the people touting "equality" in the workplace it's the patriarchy's fault they don't have an interest in it. You know, instead of them just not being interested in it in the same way someone isn't into a certain genre of music.
It's the fault of men that women don't find 3d art interesting. They're not allowed to have different interests if it means that some fields have a disproportionate amount of gender representation. They should be forced to work in 3d and STEM fields against their will to even the scales.
Should I keep laying on the sarcasm, or is that enough?
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Nov 2021 10:43:40 UTC No. 859941
>>859922
Yea, I hope this charade all ends before wwiii or we might just go extinct. Why can't we all just do what we want mannnnnnnnn.
Anonymous at Wed, 3 Nov 2021 22:18:04 UTC No. 859979
I think a lot of people's intro to 3D is coomerism (aka "Wow I can make these video game characters fuck without learning to draw!") and women are less horny
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Nov 2021 18:11:57 UTC No. 860059
>>859673
This is your brain on rpgs
Anonymous at Thu, 4 Nov 2021 19:22:50 UTC No. 860067
>>859648
Scientific proof on the existence of "girl inches". Also why girls thought I was taller than I actually was once I got jacked.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Nov 2021 02:40:33 UTC No. 860140
>>859592
It's tedious, technical, and you have to put in a lot of effort, so naturally repels females like the plague.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Nov 2021 03:44:14 UTC No. 860144
anybody else who actually works in the industry reading this thread and having a laugh.
Anonymous at Fri, 5 Nov 2021 04:31:29 UTC No. 860149
>>860144
certainly not you
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Nov 2021 02:33:58 UTC No. 860541
youre probably looking in the wrong place, animation is full of women, same for lighting and lookdev. fx and modelling not so much but there are at least 1 in 10. Ive found women gravitate more towards artistic detail work, while men usually like the technical side
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Nov 2021 06:05:56 UTC No. 860583
>>859673
I will now buy your light novel
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Nov 2021 07:25:47 UTC No. 862194
>>859605
This but unironically
The replies in this thread alone show why women wouldn't want to be anywhere near these people
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Nov 2021 07:48:22 UTC No. 862197
>>862194
>women are equal
>but the only thing preventing them from reaching their full potential are anonymous comments on a dead board
Men continue taking Ws.
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Anonymous at Mon, 15 Nov 2021 12:34:50 UTC No. 862225
>>859592
maximum misogyny of course
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:16:14 UTC No. 862228
>>859592
The cons imo:
Lower IQ curve then men, more midwit women with low level of self awareness.
10% smaller brains.
Not assertive break under pressure work.
Can't complete tasks without make guidelines.
Emotional and not logical.
The pros:
Pussy gives more dynamics into the work place men behave less ape like.
Very good at monotonic work can switch off brain and do the same task for long hours. ( See WW2 women for reference )
3D is much more technical like other anons said but I saw lots of women work on illustrations, concept, BG art.
Women good at supportive roles so lead professionals can be more productive also good pussy gives TRT boost
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Nov 2021 13:31:11 UTC No. 862229
>>862194
none of those people are in the industry anon
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 01:57:09 UTC No. 862327
There's plenty of women, if you consider trans women to be women(which they are) simple as.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 02:00:17 UTC No. 862328
>>859592
My ex gf tried to learn blender for creating characters and failed miserably. Women really can't do shit other than suck dicks...
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Nov 2021 02:56:08 UTC No. 862339
>>862194
Wanna know how I know you never read any of the replies in this thread?
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Nov 2021 21:58:42 UTC No. 863729
>>862228
you forgot the most important factor: women can get much better and easier jobs with much, much, much less effort easier than men.
Men are attracted towards skill-based jobs because this is how they can compete. Women don't need to do that.
It's already a risky decision to go for a job in tech or arts, for women it's straight up dumb, when you can make more money for sitting in front of an excel sheet effectively for 3 hours a day and browse the web for the rest of the day. And women get those jobs without university.
Anonymous at Sun, 21 Nov 2021 23:56:30 UTC No. 863757
>>862327
>if you consider trans women to be women
I don't.
>(which they are)
not by any solid scientific sex determination system, which is the only thing that counts, not your retarded feelings.
no xx chromosomes, no ability to give birth, not born with the right sex organs = not a woman
simple.
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Nov 2021 01:39:06 UTC No. 863766
>>859592
>Why are there so few women in 3d cgi?
Because it takes effort
Anonymous at Mon, 22 Nov 2021 23:43:45 UTC No. 863973
>>859592
men just have more of the autism for problem solving and technical shit than women so they dominate 3d and shit like programming
women are more autistic for creativity and self expression that's why they dominate the art field, men don't tend to get into that as much because its not as fulfilling for their technical autism most of the time
though 3d does require a person to have at least some desire to create and art does require some degree of problem solving and grasping technical things, not denying that
3d is for men who have that creative autism streak, art is for women who have that technical autism streak
this is them dabbling in a little bit of "each other's things", which i think is cute :)
tldr women are stupid men are BIG brain ooga booga
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 00:02:21 UTC No. 863977
>>859592
misogyny cuz
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 04:55:49 UTC No. 864008
>>859592
the obvious answer is that there are no CHADS dicking around blender worth a cock suck
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 06:04:50 UTC No. 864017
>>859592
You should ask FirstKeeper
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 06:17:24 UTC No. 864018
>>859592
3d is engineering and art in 1, it's like that lack of skilled drafstmen thing, a lot of people want to be the art, not spend hundreds to thousands of hours learning the kinds of technical skills you need to create technical art of any real value.
>>859635
They all work at grove street games or something?
>>859675
Most Pozer/dazphiles are trannies creating idealized female versions of themselves and posing them in sexual situations and getting off on it, this is whether they realize it or not.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 06:29:32 UTC No. 864021
>>859592
Idk man. But I'm working with a female 3d artist right now and her models are lacking... We are doing a game for PC and mobile and she doesn't seem to understand that low polygon counts are desired. Some hair styles assets she made have 50k triangles... some accessories like glasses that could use 1k triangles at most have 5k, some have random unwelded vertexes in places, uses Substance for textures and sends 2048x2048 completely black metallic textures, 2048x2048 full gray rough maps, she sent once a 70mb raw height texture...
I try to make suggestions but I guess I'm ignored. Out client doesn't seem worried about it.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 07:59:55 UTC No. 864036
>>864021
>I try to make suggestions
sounds like you're being a pussy about it.
Don't make "suggestions", throw the truth at her feet (that she is making stupid mistakes) and set her straight. This is not something subjective or artistic, its cold and brutal logic, either its right or wrong.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 08:17:31 UTC No. 864038
>>864021
you should state poly budgets before giving the task, not after.
including blank metal/rough is good etiquette to prevent ambiguity, as is sending in high-res outputs (engines often have a way to force max res anyway).
if she did have properly formulated tasks and repeatedly failed at meeting the geo/tex budgets, then sure, that's on her.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 11:30:47 UTC No. 864066
>>864036
I've stated several times in our meetings that 40k-50k triangles is too much specially for hair models. They made a test in mobile and loaded many instances of 50k models. Didn't seem to affect performance, so now the client is saying that we shouldn't worry about triangle counts.
>>864038
I'm not the one in charge. I've told them the budgets that I think we should use, but after that test they are ok with any poly count.
About the textures, what kind of ambiguity could there be? In my case if I will use a black or gray texture with no details I would use a smaller texture because there's no detail anyway.
I don't know much but it seems to me that in a game you should use the least number of triangles that get you a good look for the models. Same for texture size. Specially since they want a mobile version too.
You're going to say that if the client said it's ok then it's not her fault, right? Well, I think you should care for your job, knowing that optimized models will perform better should be common sense for those making models for games.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 11:38:53 UTC No. 864067
>>864066
>I think you should care for your job
if you're her peer, not her supervisor, and the client is happy then care about your own work, not hers. all you're doing now is trying to make a co-worker look bad.
if she can't optimise for games, she'll very quickly run into clients who tell her to fuck off. whoever is employing the both of you is at fault here for not having any sort of budget.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 11:41:07 UTC No. 864068
>>864066
I'm not really defending her (esp unwelded verts and such), just saying your description is not clear-cut.
re:ambiguity, SP defaults to roughness 0.3 while Blender and Unity to 0.5. sub-16px textures may cause mipmap problems. such engine technicalities are not the artist's job, so it's best to err on the side of compatibility.
optimization is case-by-case and polycount may not matter as much as draw calls. if that's the case, caring for your job would be producing the higher fidelity model, rather than a more optimized one.
Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 12:12:24 UTC No. 864072
>>859592
Same reason why there are more male brick layers and other physical building jobs... its all inside the DNA.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Nov 2021 16:57:24 UTC No. 864417
because this sexist patriarchic industry is filled with toxic masculinity, which objectifies and oppresses female persons
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Nov 2021 17:01:10 UTC No. 864418
Things that are not a problem.
Anonymous at Wed, 24 Nov 2021 18:52:51 UTC No. 864434
>>859592
patriarchy
look guys i said it too now laugh haha what do you mean it wasn't funny the first 15 times
Anonymous at Fri, 3 Dec 2021 12:38:48 UTC No. 866690
>>859921
spoken like a true philosopher.
Anonymous at Fri, 3 Dec 2021 13:53:23 UTC No. 866707
>>859592
Omg how do you work this thing? Is this the make picture button? I thought blender was just for food you know isn't it so funky how they named it after a food thing.
Anonymous at Fri, 3 Dec 2021 16:32:01 UTC No. 866735
>>859592
Why Aren't There More Female Music Producers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ip
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Anonymous at Fri, 3 Dec 2021 17:42:23 UTC No. 866744
>>859592
Because they haven't been marketed to yet.
I guarantee you that in a few years, somebody will mass market an easy to use low-cost 3D printing setup and women will buy into the hobby making all sorts of little flowers and Christmas decorations and shit, they same way men endlessly print wizards and space marines.
Pic related is literally just a stripped down CNC machine that they painted pink, but it only costs 250 bucks and the software for it is super simple, so my technologically illiterate mom bought one and now she'll explain the difference between vector graphics and raster graphics (even if they don't know that's what they're called) to my sister-in-law who, also bought one.
Anonymous at Fri, 3 Dec 2021 21:28:45 UTC No. 866804
>>866744
To be fair, I even want one now and I can't even begin to think of a use for it.
Same with 3d printers.
I got a stand-mixer thinking I'd make a fuckton of bread with it, but only made like 3 loaves. I mean it's still useful, but I don't use it as much as I thought.
Anonymous at Sat, 4 Dec 2021 21:31:41 UTC No. 867094
>>863729
by that logic the decision to go into the arts is dumb since you should just go for money
but suppose that your "women can get free spreadsheet jobs handed to them without going to college" claim is true, then isn't pursuing the arts less risky for women because of a safety net
Anonymous at Sun, 5 Dec 2021 02:07:55 UTC No. 867151
>>867094
One of my friends was only in college so she could meet someone with a major that could support her for the rest of her life.
Like her goal being in college wasn't graduating, it was just latching onto someone and riding along through life like a fucking remora.
Turns out a lot of chicks were like that, especially in my major (graphic design). They'd just half-ass all of the assignments because they were just in college "for fun" as a stepping stone to living off someone else.
Some took the courses seriously, and the ones that did were always really skilled, but 90% of them just stole designs and layouts from Google images and remade them and turned them in, yet somehow they always looked worse than the shit they stole.
I'm not really going to go into the ethics of it or anything, personally I find it wrong, but it's just how some live.
A little bit more on topic, however; I do think that the reason there aren't many women in certain fields is just because they don't have an interest in it, and no amount of forcing will get them to suddenly find a subject they're not into exciting. There doesn't need to be a 50:50 mix of genders in any field, there just needs to be a varying amount of perspectives to approach and solve problems. Ape together strong, and all that.
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 09:06:18 UTC No. 867535
>>859888
they can lie
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 09:13:00 UTC No. 867536
I'm trying to get the junior designer I hired into 3d. She has a decent sense of style and art Direction and diligently does the tutorials and tasks I give her. But the technical uptake is abyssmal, despite her not being an absolute brainlet.
I even waste time preparing small challenges, so she'd learn to deconstruct images from a technical point of view, by rendering visuals only with methods I know she has learned through tutorials I hand picked for her and she still struggles.
There is a certain barrier in the technical aspect that they just seem unable to pass without lots of time and effort.
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 09:26:10 UTC No. 867537
art was always about cooming and male fantasies, women can't coom you know
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 09:34:42 UTC No. 867538
>>867537
wrong, enter the fujo yaoi gay weebshit community
a good portion of ftm trannies are fujos, they'll go just as far to coom as a man would
not much 3d stuff in there but they definitely can be massive coomers
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Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 11:04:31 UTC No. 867544
>>859598
>full of wannabe male engineers.
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 17:52:06 UTC No. 867634
>>859592
>Why are there so few women in 3d cgi?
Answer: they don't have autism.
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 17:57:22 UTC No. 867635
>>867634
https://www.wctv.tv/2021/08/01/waku
now, how can we convince her to make soulless blender donuts
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 18:21:50 UTC No. 867639
>>867634
This is the real answer
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 19:08:07 UTC No. 867650
>>859592
it requires hard work and knowing how things work. women dont like that. they only like it when things are subjective so they can pretend, and intimidate people into thinking, their "work" has value even when it doesnt.
Anonymous at Mon, 6 Dec 2021 19:10:25 UTC No. 867652
>>859592
Wamen usually play in easy mode. Just be a 3/10, have an OF acc and spread your legs.
Dudd at Mon, 13 Dec 2021 17:40:07 UTC No. 869500
It's anectodal of course but majority of concept artists and 'soft' art are females. Most 'tech' art are guys. I work at a film studio and its pretty evenly split. Live in Montreal
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Anonymous at Mon, 13 Dec 2021 20:23:46 UTC No. 869529
>>859592
who cares? doesn't matter
Anonymous at Tue, 14 Dec 2021 03:59:49 UTC No. 869599
Bitches are stupid and are normal faggots. Also, the sky is blue.
Anonymous at Tue, 14 Dec 2021 20:44:58 UTC No. 869761
>>859659
>3D art is technical. Women can't into that.
Unironically this, women are shit at following any sort of structure, 3d art has rules and requires you to think critically to make what you want with the tools given to you and the restrictions of the program/constraints. That's not to say there aren't any women in the field but it takes a logical woman who isn't retarded(rule out most of the gender for this one kek) to do it. Its the same reason you don't see many female woodworkers - they do the form part well but function is hard for the female brain to grasp and 3d art is literally form and function together.
Its really not a bad thing either, not everything needs to be some diverse 50/50 split.
Anonymous at Tue, 14 Dec 2021 20:49:53 UTC No. 869764
>>859773
>or spend most of their time touching up work sent in from outsourced 3DCG/VFX houses.
Please fucking kill me now I was already racist before, but now I want to napalm the entirety of India and southeast Asia combined. It's been two years. Fuck outsourcing and fuck diversity hires with the fury of a thousand suns
Anonymous at Tue, 14 Dec 2021 20:52:33 UTC No. 869765
>>862194
t. faggot larper who doesn't actually work in the industry