Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 07:23:12 UTC No. 864029

>>864028
oh boy a pirate thread
quick anons what would you name your shoulder parrot

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 07:40:34 UTC No. 864030

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO WASTE YOUR TIME WITH BLENDER LIKE US AAAAHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME TON ROOSENDAAL I'M GOING CLOSED SOURCE

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 07:46:25 UTC No. 864032

being reminded that substance is now guilt-free pirate material was amazing, no regrets mateys

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 07:52:23 UTC No. 864033

>purposefully cracked by developers themselves
>they leave in bugs that hard crash and slow down operations
>backdoor your system, you're almost guaranteed to be on a list somewhere in the world
>this unarguably doesn't happen on normal versions, tested across hundreds of setups and versions
Enjoy your cuckware I guess lmao

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 07:53:18 UTC No. 864034

Pirate "chads" with year old sloppy seconds LMAO

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 08:17:28 UTC No. 864037

>>864034
v2022 is also available.

>>864033
schizo, been using 3ds max and zbrush like this for 10+ years never had issues. i don't use them for commercial purposes anyway, just modding.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 09:36:10 UTC No. 864044

>>864033
>only one person can crack a program
Typical braindead reddit consoomer

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 09:40:13 UTC No. 864045

>>864033
>he fell for the propaganda

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 09:51:07 UTC No. 864048

>>864028
*locks you to Windows 10+ in your path*

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 10:04:13 UTC No. 864050

Get a job.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 11:47:38 UTC No. 864070

>>864032
>substance is now guilt-free pirate material
couldn't have said it better

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:45:09 UTC No. 864092

>>864050
I have one - still pirating.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:51:27 UTC No. 864093

>>864033
>purposefully cracked by developers themselves
how nice of them but I rather take the other ones.
>they leave in bugs that hard crash and slow down operations
Implying the legit vanilla version is better and copy-protection never ever slows down operations, right?
>backdoor your system, you're almost guaranteed to be on a list somewhere in the world
Not even the NSA can access my offline workstation(s).
>this unarguably doesn't happen on normal versions, tested across hundreds of setups and versions
>unarguably
You're an insufferable gay retard with an huge open backdoor where commercial companies regularly shove their dick in, in hundreds of setups and versions probably.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 15:30:48 UTC No. 864102

Are those cracked zbrush versions stable?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 16:51:22 UTC No. 864122

>>864029
blender

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 18:03:33 UTC No. 864132

>>864102
You'll get into using certain zbrush workflows where you encounter random crashes and timebombs and then you might get some hard system freezes. Really, the thing about paying for zbrush is that its physically hard to pay for it in that they dont accept debit cards

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 18:42:40 UTC No. 864137

>>864028
a smarter pirate would become a questionable citizen when they go for infinite trials

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 19:03:25 UTC No. 864139

>>864028
Mfw i was just an average wagey gamer...

Your move.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 19:30:22 UTC No. 864142

>>864139
You will never be an artist.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 20:54:22 UTC No. 864156

>>864028
>a year
ZBrush is a perpetual license, though. They say that upgrades are free for a year and beyond that up to the sole discretion of Pixologic, but I've gotten every update free since I purchased it 5 years ago. They're one of the few decent software companies left.

Fuck Autodesk though, pirate the shit out of 3DS Max.

>>864032
Same for me. If it's Autodesk or Adobe, they can get fucked. If it's a smaller company that sells perpetual licenses and frequently updates while the devs engage with the community, I'm willing to pay for it.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 21:01:50 UTC No. 864157

>>864156
>ZBrush is a perpetual license, though.
nope.

Zbrush is $40/mo rental. Most people here cant afford $900 USD up front and choose to rent.

Max is $250

480 + 250 = 730

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 21:05:32 UTC No. 864158

>>864157
>Most people here cant afford $900 USD up front and choose to rent.
Speak for yourself. I've never rented software in my life and have no plans to.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 21:13:19 UTC No. 864159

>>864157
autodesk doesn't even have the option of perpetual licenses, fuck em

Zbrush is worth it if you got the money and don't won't to make the "I'll totally buy it after I pirate it" excuse. Nobody ever buys the same software after pirating, they just hope to get hired and receive a license from their employer.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 21:27:47 UTC No. 864160

>>864156
>If it's Autodesk or Adobe, they can get fucked.
Let's not forget about Maxon.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 21:28:45 UTC No. 864161

>>864157
>Most people here cant afford $900 USD

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 21:29:46 UTC No. 864162

>>864160
>Maxon
Shit I haven't used Cinema 4D in nearly 10 years, what did they do?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 21:43:24 UTC No. 864164

>>864162
Should we tell him?

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 22:06:51 UTC No. 864174

>>864132
>hard system freezes
That's a hard pass

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 22:16:14 UTC No. 864176

>>864161
The main problem is that the costs pile up very quickly. If you're say an environment artist you're going to need at least 4 core programs. ZBrush, 3ds Max, Marmoset, Adobe Substance suite. That's a lot of money, and that's not even including the more niche stuff like S-tier cloth modeling. It was even worse in the past when UE4 cost money and they didn't have the Quixel shit yet so you also have to pay up the ass for good base textures (still do honestly). High-end PC prices are also insane right now (RTX 3090 is 3500 USD here). The other cards all have shit memory capacity and can't render light mapped scenes worth shit). 3080 Ti has barely enough memory but also costs a fortune. AMD has better capacity at lower prices but their cards lacks too many key software features from nJudea.

In the past you could more easily get away with using older software. I remember using 3ds Max 2010-2014 and old Photoshop versions for ages. But modern stuff has a lot of really useful features and integration that massively speed up workflow (for example the retopology stuff in Max 2021/2022 is so good you simply cannot do without).

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 22:43:15 UTC No. 864182

>>864028
Did they ever release a stable 2021 version? The ones I downloaded always crashed, so I pirated Marvelous Designer instead for clothes and kept my good ol' reliable 2019 version.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 23:08:06 UTC No. 864185

>>864176
>The main problem is that the costs pile up very quickly.
ZBrush is $40 monthly or $900 for life. So if you plan on using it for more than 2 years, better to buy it outright.
3DS Max $215 monthly, but the annual plan saves over 30% so is always preferable.
Substance is $20 a month without Stager because who gives a shit about Stager.
Marmoset is $300 for life
S-Tier cloth modeling from Marvelous Designer is $40 a month. There's also CLO3D for $50.

So the grand total if you buy ZBrush, Marmoset and rent the others (3DS Max on annual plan) is $3,620. The next year, you would pay $2,420 since ZBrush and Marmoset are paid off. Divide that by 12 and you have $200 a month for software. Less than a day's salary for an average 3D artist. And if you're employed, you're probably not paying for some of those licenses to begin with. But for hobbyists, the situation changes. All the stuff I wrote above is the reasoning for piracy, not against it. I can understand that, especially if you don't live in a country where these kinds of figures are even remotely feasible to pay.

As for hardware, that's an entirely different discussion altogether since it's a physical product hampered by supply-chain problems and scalpers. But yeah, shit's expensive. I got incredibly lucky by upgrading my PC just before the world fell apart.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 23:10:09 UTC No. 864186

>>864164
You could tell me or I could just look it up. I don't plan on buying anything from them.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 23:35:32 UTC No. 864191

Never paid for software in 20+ years. Suck it paypigs.

Anonymous at Tue, 23 Nov 2021 23:45:48 UTC No. 864195

>>864186
Anon....ever heard of redshift?

Anonymous at Wed, 24 Nov 2021 00:19:09 UTC No. 864202

>>864195
Fuck it, I'll just read about it myself since you can't get to the point.

Anonymous at Wed, 24 Nov 2021 08:35:54 UTC No. 864297

>>864195
redSHIT

Anonymous at Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:04:51 UTC No. 864315

>>864195
Octane is better from my experience

Anonymous at Wed, 24 Nov 2021 11:57:27 UTC No. 864346

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmZm8vNHBSU