Anonymous at Sat, 18 Dec 2021 05:43:45 UTC No. 870607

You can render using your CPU or GPU. Depends on the render engine.

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Dec 2021 05:46:09 UTC No. 870608

you just HAVE to have AT LEAST a Nvidia® GeForce™ RTX 3090, AND the latest Intel® Core™ i9-12900k

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Dec 2021 06:45:25 UTC No. 870613

>>870604
It doesn't need to be powerful TO render.
Really, it's just a factor of how long you want to wait. You can render on a shitty laptop and spend all night doing it, and still come out with a render just as clean as if someone who used their 3090 and took 30s. All that matters is time.

Obviously there's a bit more too it than that, like having enough memory to actually render your scene, but if you're using CPU, it doesn't matter as much since, if I understand it correctly, if you don't have enough RAM for something the computer will start using HDD space in place of it but at a slower rate.
One thing I will mention though, is you're probably not going to be able to render animations. Not because the computer can't handle it, but because you'll be an old man by the time you actually finish rendering it all.


Of course, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention using rendering farms. If you use one, it doesn't matter how powerful your laptop is or isn't. All that matters is everyone else's (if you're using a distributed renderer). If you're using Blender and want to go that route, SheepIt is completely free. You basically use your PC to render other people's stuff when you have downtime, and build up credits to use when you want other people to render your stuff. It's kind of like banking all that time it would take to render it on your own, and doing it while you're not using your PC. With the added benefit that when you send it off to render, you can still use your PC since other people are doing the hard work of rendering.
Even a crappy PC can contribute since they try to weight things to where everyone gets a fair share even with crappy hardware.

Basically, there's a lot of options to put your work out there, even if you've got a shitty laptop.

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Dec 2021 06:51:46 UTC No. 870615

>>870604
>>870613
Another tip too that I used to use back when I was in your shoes... If you can't spend the time rendering out enough samples to clear up the noise, render out a few images that are noisy but with different noise seeds, and then overlay them on top of each other with different opacities.
So you'd have your base layer at 100%, one on top at 50%, the next at 33%, another at 25%, and if you need another, one more at 20%.
Basically, the layer opacity is divided by n, where n is which number layer it is (1/n). 1/1 (base, layer 1), 1/2 (layer 2), 1/3 (layer 3), 1/4 (layer 4), 1/5 (layer 5).

Since the noise seeds are all different, it should even things out and smooth everything. Obviously it's got diminishing returns, and it won't solve all your issues, but if you get a good render with low samples and have noise or fireflies that you can't get rid of with clamping, it sometimes helps.
Using denoising tools if your software has it can work too. Though I don't know how it works on low-end hardware. And it doesn't work miracles either. It's surprisingly good at resolving things at low samples, but it also still looks pretty mushy.
The opacity trick is a good way of keeping samples low, but also keeping things crisp.

Hope it all helps anon.

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Dec 2021 07:07:42 UTC No. 870620

>>870604
Depends what you're rendering and how long you're willing to wait.

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Dec 2021 11:11:52 UTC No. 870637

>>870604
Depends on the software and what you're trying to render. A lot of modern renderers use Optix to render faster with better denoising algorithms on newer NVidia GPUs. More cores are better for rending on the CPU because you can utilize more threads for tiled rendering. In terms of RAM 16GB is good enough for most tasks anything higher is overkill unless you're doing CAD work or using Blender since Blender doesn't use the HDD when you run out of RAM it just crashes.

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Dec 2021 19:10:15 UTC No. 870692

>>870604
you could do realistic renders and the whole shabang just get ready to optimize the fuck of the scene
Astartes managed to render his project merely off a 1070 in 3 months
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7hgjuFfn3A

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Dec 2021 00:10:09 UTC No. 870737

>>870692
>3 months
This looks like something you can render in 3 minutes on Unreal Engine.

Anonymous at Sun, 19 Dec 2021 00:19:46 UTC No. 870738

>>870737
what is this autism, back off

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Dec 2021 00:47:46 UTC No. 871122

>>870604
people were rendering images like that 20 years ago, it just took 20x longer than now. if you have a decent modern computer, you should be able develop real-time 3d comparable to to any video game can you play on the same pc, or you can render more complex scenes by whatever factor, and it would just take the same factor in time. eg: if your rendering is 100x more computational than 1 frame of a video game, then it will take 100 times as long to render than that 1 frame would in a video game.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Dec 2021 03:59:10 UTC No. 872811

>>870604
68

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Dec 2021 14:26:24 UTC No. 872877

>>870692
>13 minutes video
>3 months on 1070
Seems okay, I thought it would have taken a bit longer

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Dec 2021 15:06:59 UTC No. 872885

same question here OP

im thinking of buying a Lenovo Ideapad Gaming 3 (15ARH05)... some have experience w that?

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Dec 2021 18:03:43 UTC No. 872910

>>870604
Pic related was made on something weaker than a low end mobile phone.
If you're a beginner learning the basics is perfectly fine on a toaster.

If your PC can somewhat run games it can be used for 3D rendering, only some more modern real-time features might not work great depending on the graphics-card.

Anonymous at Fri, 31 Dec 2021 07:42:18 UTC No. 873016

>>870738
>He hasn't heard about Tamers

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jan 2022 18:07:04 UTC No. 873460

>>870607
You can combine both.
You can combine GPUs too.
>>870604
You need memory, 8gb is the bare minimum.
I bought a rtx3070 and i am not impressed by its performance.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jan 2022 18:37:25 UTC No. 873465

>>870738
He's right, 2D rendering is getting caught up by 3D real time, see Unreal 4's HDRP pipeline.

Anonymous at Sun, 2 Jan 2022 19:09:02 UTC No. 873467

>>873460
>I bought a rtx3070 and i am not impressed by its performance.
Really. That's what I was going for when they become cheaper. Compared to a 1070 it must be better right.

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jan 2022 23:46:52 UTC No. 873716

>>870604
dude, I'm learning and I'm having fun using my 11 year old PC. If you're a noob, you don't really need a quantum computer for this shit. All that changes is the render time.

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jan 2022 00:11:11 UTC No. 873721

You need at least a 75 MHz CPU with 40 MB of RAM and 1 MB of VRAM. That's what I was using when I got started in 1999.

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jan 2022 01:57:28 UTC No. 873730

Laptop if you want to pretend to be a 3d artist in starbuck coffees or uni library.
PC if you want to save money and still have a powerful machine and be able do actually do something.

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jan 2022 03:14:44 UTC No. 873744

>>873730
>PC if you want to save money
should we tell him?

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jan 2022 10:18:54 UTC No. 873773

>>873467
Ram is a factor i didn't thing about when i got it. When maxing you vram Daz fall back to cpu and if you deactivate the fall back you get nothing. Also it is more comfortable than a 1080. But you get used to it quik. I plan to get so.ething with more punch and more ram. Multi gpu rendering seems unavoidable if you're into quantity, like a renpy game.

Anonymous at Tue, 4 Jan 2022 19:06:56 UTC No. 873850

>>873744
I just upgraded my pc, same screen, same keyboard, same power supply, same ssd, same case.
Have fun laptopfag, probably you're a fan of apple computer ?

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jan 2022 03:57:13 UTC No. 873964

>>870604
okey instead of all the autistic people in here I will give an actuall anwser.

just get the best gaming laptop you can find for your budget spend atleast 1500 and you will be fine. if you want something good you are looking at 2500 dollars. dont spend over 3000.

To give you some persoective: A frame of a pixar movie takes them 24 hour to render so they spends months rendering their Movies with supercomupers.

Once you know what you actually want to do you can consider things like hooking up multiple computers in to a render farm or renting one online etc.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:20:38 UTC No. 873966

>>873964
>To give you some persoective: A frame of a pixar movie takes them 24 hour to render so they spends months rendering their Movies with supercomupers.
you're being dishonest

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jan 2022 07:50:59 UTC No. 873984

>>873850
fuck off cris

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jan 2022 11:32:06 UTC No. 874012

>>873964
>don't listen to these autistic cunt
>Listen to my autistic rant instead.
You suck dick right?

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jan 2022 13:21:46 UTC No. 874023

- Look at me, I'm laptoooooping !
- Wow anon, It muss be so cool to be able to laptooop, I mean you can enjoy the full scale of computer technologies anywhere in the world.
- Yes, I can work on my laptoooop while I'm in the bus or at the cafe!
- Ho and you do 3d with your laptoooop rn?
- No, the whole thing will overheat if I try to do anything, I will have to wait till I go back home and plug it into my external cooler, I'm just pretending do work on my laptooop, you know the battery is quite weak, so I only watch blender tutorial. And when I come home I'm so pissed of by this small keyboard and this small screen and the noise of the tiny cpu fan trying to cool my shitty designed system , than I just watch netflix.
Laptooooooper are the most cucked people in the world AHAHAH !

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jan 2022 13:26:34 UTC No. 874024

>>874023
preorder a lappy with a 3080ti gpu and then we'll see who has the last laugh

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jan 2022 13:38:31 UTC No. 874030

>>874024
>and then we'll see who has the last laugh
yeah, Nvidia probably

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jan 2022 13:49:17 UTC No. 874031

>>874030
just because your experience with laptops is with hardware from 20 years ago doesnt mean the 3080ti equpped mobile gpus will follow the same shitty path.

Anonymous at Wed, 5 Jan 2022 18:18:12 UTC No. 874060

>>870608
ok

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jan 2022 02:20:50 UTC No. 875723

8GB or 16GB of RAM on a laptop is enough for *modeling*, correct? As long as I don't have 5 million polys or anything like that?

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jan 2022 02:50:43 UTC No. 875726

>>870604
Atleast a Motorla 68k and 1MB of RAM.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jan 2022 06:15:12 UTC No. 875739

>>874031
You must be retarded... there is no way a laptop can have the same performance as a desktop... the limiting factor is always power delivery... every component in that shitty box is made with power saving in mind, and because of that it suffers allot performance wise.

Anonymous at Fri, 14 Jan 2022 12:51:55 UTC No. 875784

[--------------]
this powerful

Anonymous at Tue, 18 Jan 2022 23:14:46 UTC No. 876788

>>870604
I got started in 2019 with an RX560 4GB and an FX-6300 with 8GB DDR3. Using Blender 2.8 with OpenCL GPU accelerated rendering, I could render a frame like that in maybe 30s-5min depending on how good my scene and render settings were. Being an amateur hobbyist, 99% of my computer time is being used to model shit and setup scenes. My render times are not what is slowing me down in 3D.

tl:dr
You can comfortably get started with a few years old office machine with an i5 with 8GB RAM.

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 05:23:06 UTC No. 878340

>>876788
>tfw you're a hobbyist too but you have no gpu
Recently ditched my old i5 7400 computer with 8GB of RAM. I was going to go all in on a new build, but then everything went to shit. I was originally going to get the 3900X that I found for a pretty good price, but then I thought maybe since I'm just a noob I should know my place and stick to a 5700G just in case. Little did I know that my foresight would save my ass, because my GTX 970 died on me literally months into the pandemic. If I were stuck with an Intel iGPU with that CPU I might've jumped off a bridge by now. I'm just patiently waiting to buy a GPU at a sane price... hopefully by late this year. I can't take this for much longer.

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:22:12 UTC No. 878379

>>870615
>If you can't spend the time rendering out enough samples to clear up the noise, render out a few images that are noisy but with different noise seeds, and then overlay them on top of each other with different opacities.

This nigga gets it

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 12:47:03 UTC No. 878384

>>878340
>>878382
You have my sympathies.
I know, I waited for a looong time to upgrade my PC and finally spent (wasted) a ton of money. I couldn't take it for longer.
I opted for the cheaper 3900X which when I bought it cost ~200 bucks less than the 5700G in December. I invested the money in the GPU. If I am lucky then a 16core might cost only ~400 next year so I can sell my 3900X and upgrade the CPU.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 13:33:11 UTC No. 878609

>>870604
At least 32 cores, bare minimum 16
At least RTX A6000, bare minimum gamer faggot cards with minimum 24GB vram
At least 128GB ram, bare minimum 64GB
At least M.2 SSD, bare minimum sata
No RGB shit or you're a tranny

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 13:34:12 UTC No. 878610

>>875723
Imagine thinking 5 million is "too much". your "art" probably looks like playdoh blender donut shit

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 13:35:43 UTC No. 878611

>>870608
>intel 12th gen
Enjoy your overheating power draining trash lmao. 13th gen master race.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 13:56:01 UTC No. 878615

>>878611
>forced windows 11
10 bros?