Anonymous at Mon, 20 Dec 2021 20:13:47 UTC No. 871073

>>871063
Once cryptos become outlawed it'll return to normalcy. At somepoint the environmental cost in conjunction with the fact that cryptos are the foundation for everyting to contraband to drugtrade to blackmail of entire communities thru ransomware will ensure a global crackdown.

In the meantime we can take comfort in the fact AAA gaming keep failing anyways and has a 10 year dev cycle between notable titles.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Dec 2021 20:26:54 UTC No. 871078

>>871073
>Once cryptos become outlawed it'll return to normalcy. At somepoint
any definite point in time when you think this will happen ?

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Dec 2021 20:48:28 UTC No. 871082

>>871078
>Any definite point in time when you think this will happen?

Within this decade all the effects of late state capitalism will have ramped up to the point the consumer base is destroyed.
Because mass unemployment and billions of unecessary people whoms jobs all have been replaced by algorithms and robotics.
As we're looking at a 'everywhere is Detroit' scenario we'll prob decide we can't keep doing what we're doing right now.

An economy that is then pivoting away from consumption of products will have no room for cryptominers.
Whoever owns actual production as this happens are the ones that dictates what happens next.
But cheap gaming will be needed as one tool to help keep the masses preoccupied by spending large swats of time
on low-cost harmless activities. Who ever governs will need distractions/stimulation to keep all the useless people docile.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Dec 2021 21:27:53 UTC No. 871087

You will have to pay more but make it last longer. If pc ports were actually optimized you wouldn't need expensive hardware. The big bottleneck now is the 4k meme and bad raytracing. I have a 1070 and can play 99% of games at 1440p on high. It's always the bad performing games like Cyberpunk and Crysis 1 that only cause problems.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Dec 2021 21:32:15 UTC No. 871088

>>871087
Who gives a shit about vidya, rendering will always be more important than if your GPU can run some broken AAA game. At least as far as doing /3/ is concerned.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Dec 2021 21:36:38 UTC No. 871089

>>871088
every single pixel of every single frame of vidya is rendered

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Dec 2021 23:14:43 UTC No. 871100

>>871073
lolno

for starters, they already blacklisted some crypto like monero. The reason being because it's completely private. Other types of crypto like ETH/BTC are less private than a credit card since everyone can view your transactions online. Including the services that your wallet is connected to. It's impossible for it to be used for money laundering or crime.

Second, politicians don't give a fuck about environmentalism. Otherwise, they wouldn't fly on private jets and eat steak dinners while taking money from the fossil fuel industry. If you've been attentive, then you'll that they weaponize it against non-NATO countries

>>871063
People will adapt by creating optimized renderers and tools that will offset the costs of GPUs. No politician is going to regulate toys for the sole purpose of displaying 8k furry hardvore.

There might be a Renaissance of NPR/stylized art
>>871082
there will never be a collapse, that is a cope

people either tolerate or leave the conditions that they're in.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Dec 2021 23:16:38 UTC No. 871101

>>871063
Although slightly true that it will be a while until prices go down, a lot of what you are saying and has read is very pessimistic and downright false paranoia. You're acting as if people/companies can't buy any GPU's at all and that's just not true at all. Are they super inflated in price to the point of being ridiculous? For sure. Is it dumb to buy that expensive? For sure. Are some people still going to buy the cards and keep producing 3d/vfx/film/game dev? Yes they are.

Anonymous at Mon, 20 Dec 2021 23:22:39 UTC No. 871104

>>871082
>Within this decade all the effects of late state capitalism will have ramped up to the point the consumer base is destroyed.

We've been in 'late stage capitalism' for nearly three quarters of a century. How fucking long are you planning on waiting?

Crypto will be killed by its exponentially increasing energy demands, simple as that.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Dec 2021 05:06:32 UTC No. 871146

>>871089
You know for a fact that's not what I'm talking about you chud. Semantics will get you nowhere.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Dec 2021 05:49:05 UTC No. 871151

>>871146
>chud
Fuck off and dilate somewhere else tranny garbage

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Dec 2021 06:39:38 UTC No. 871163

>>871151
Right, because if you lose in an argument online, it must be because the other person must be a tranny and not because you're just retarded.
In either case you lose.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Dec 2021 18:31:50 UTC No. 871248

>>871163

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Dec 2021 20:19:39 UTC No. 871268

>>871063
The reason prices will not go down is because there is new technology for gpus involving lasers and not silicone, they are cashing out the most of it. They are afraind of losing money and are waiting for the new tech to hit the market. Also the amount of watts the new gpu uses is retarded, and i think gov got involved cause going from 125W to 250W involving millions of users will overload the grid and the energy price is already high.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Dec 2021 20:30:57 UTC No. 871272

>>871268
Draining the earths resources to simulate reality and create imaginary bullshit. What a time to be alive. We'd already be on mars if they'd thrown everything at nuclear. Doesn't make the right people any money though.

Anonymous at Tue, 21 Dec 2021 22:01:39 UTC No. 871297

>>871272
this is 4chan anon, you don't have to use euphemisms to refer to rich jews

Anonymous at Thu, 23 Dec 2021 13:17:58 UTC No. 871651

>>871268
>The reason prices will not go down is because there is new technology for gpus involving lasers and not silicone, they are cashing out the most of it. They are afraind of losing money and are waiting for the new tech to hit the market.
fake, and gay

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Dec 2021 03:48:52 UTC No. 871961

>>871063
Idk i just bought 3090 on release because I actually make money with 3d. Sucks if you just started in 2020-2021, but everyone else have no excuse to be poor.

Anonymous at Sat, 25 Dec 2021 04:06:40 UTC No. 871964

>>871961
i make money with 3d as well, but i dont need a modern graphics card because my target is where the money is (mobile)

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Dec 2021 02:41:04 UTC No. 872134

>>871063

>Work
>Save Money and not buy porn, video games, weed, beer, cigars cigrettes like a faggot retard
>???
>Buy GPU PC whatever.

Not hard. Shit. When I was 15. I cut lawns for a few weeks to save up money to buy a PC with an 800mhz cpu, 64megs of ram and a 40 gig Hard drive with a 128meg Voodoo gpu and a 21 inch CRT monitor.

"You can't afford it. Losers told me"

I saved up and was playing the latest games and learning with Lightwave soon after.

Seething then, seething now.

Anonymous at Sun, 26 Dec 2021 03:55:05 UTC No. 872141

>>872134
A GPU costs more than a car. Saving is not practical.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Dec 2021 12:54:41 UTC No. 872865

>>871063
Well, ETH(2nd biggest coin) is going proof of stake. So maybe it'll go down. There's still RVN though, so fuck knows.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Dec 2021 13:24:22 UTC No. 872868

I live in constant fear of my GPUs dying on me.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Dec 2021 15:23:20 UTC No. 872889

I want to know how Nvidia are going to jew Intel.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Dec 2021 18:47:57 UTC No. 872921

>>871268
> new technology for gpus involving lasers and not silicone
You can't make fake titties with lasers, silly.

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Dec 2021 22:47:26 UTC No. 872958

>>871063
most of the price thing was not about cripto, was just of the pandemic shit which forced a reduction in human personnel in the production chain, from mineral extraction, through transportation, to production and distribution. It was just that, before that, price were lower and the existence of miners was... they were just there, it was not a massive problem since the production was normal and common users could get a gpu normally, with high prices only people who could afford inflated prices bought them, which were precisely the miners (mostly), and that is why we hear a lot from them during the pandemic.
When the shit ends, prices will go down, but slowly until the production chain recover their original rate, later, they will be more modest because we are going to have 2 new competitors in the market; Intel wich is already preparing their shit to be on the actual occidental market, and the Chinese who are starting to produce gpus on their own, and they will make the market more competitive, not now sadly, that's gonna take some years probably at least 1 or 2 for Intel

Anonymous at Thu, 30 Dec 2021 23:02:31 UTC No. 872962

>>871073
crypto is just a scapegoat
regardless, I wouldn't take anything /v/ says seriously

Anonymous at Fri, 31 Dec 2021 12:42:12 UTC No. 873046

A lot of people are saying now that the prices wont come down when the new series drops (40xx series) and we'll be looking at at least $4000 gpus. Even mainstream channels are saying this now.

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jan 2022 17:22:12 UTC No. 873669

>>871073
crypto is maybe 20% of the issue

most of it comes down to locking the entire worlds population inside for 2 years straight and making all white collar work from home

think about how many people have gotten into gaming in those 2 years, how many people needed to buy a computer (many normies just have phone and tablet/chromebook, only use PC at work) for WFH, and then the increased demand on servers for streaming. GPU production has actually increased ~25% YoY for the past 2 years straight, a greater YoY increase than we've seen in like 2 decades.

u gotta remember that massive inflation is an issue affecting every market/industry, there are additional tariffs from China now, and scalpers are trying to make money on anything they can

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jan 2022 17:29:09 UTC No. 873670

>>871073
>>873669
basically until we have more TSMC fabs and inflation gets under control, this problem won't go away regardless of the crypto situation

i would say 2025 is when it starts to get better, with the Houston TSMC fab going online and ideally a better team running the USA

if the lockdowns end by then i think WFH will have gone on for so long that it will become the norm, so computer demand will still be somewhat high in that regard

another thing to consider is that services like Stadia and Geforce Now pose significant additional silicon demand, especially prior to/around a new product launch (gotta advertise the RTX 3080 streaming service to pajeets)

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jan 2022 18:32:58 UTC No. 873675

>>871082
>le late stage capitalism smoothbrain
Ah. So crypto will never go away.

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jan 2022 19:01:30 UTC No. 873678

>>873669
the real issue is america's economic war against china
americans basically banned the whole world from buying or selling supplies to chink chip factories
new american owned factories will start working until 2023, but it will take some time to reach scale production, and the costs will be higher than the chink ones, because of salaries in the world's richest country

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jan 2022 19:14:23 UTC No. 873682

>>871297
>rich people are only bad if they're jewish
>>>/pol/

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jan 2022 19:19:35 UTC No. 873686

>>872865
they've been going proof of stake for half a decade, i have some doubts
[spoiler]at least chia farming never took off, then we'd be fucked for storage too[/spoiler]

Anonymous at Mon, 3 Jan 2022 19:48:19 UTC No. 873690

>>873678
yeah the lack of preparation for this war is the biggest issue, id be okay with it otherwise

people were talking about this being a problem many decades ago but nobody wanted to listen or do anything about it and liberals cant conceive of people having national interests that supersede profit

hopefully the USA spends retarded amounts in this kneejerk response and a lot of that money goes to american workers, would be nice to have a manufacturing boom (will probably just outsource everything to india instead)