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๐งต japanese vs western philosophies
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jan 2022 23:34:42 UTC No. 877723
Is more important to be like american styles which are technically impressive but totally unremarkable or should I take the japanese pill of shittier skills but memorable designs?
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jan 2022 00:06:05 UTC No. 877729
give me an S
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jan 2022 00:58:10 UTC No. 877737
The real answer is to do whatever the hell you want. Both sides are capable of making pure gold and making absolute trash. There's no need to choose a side.
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jan 2022 15:42:06 UTC No. 877821
I thought the thread said "japanese vs western pedophiles"
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jan 2022 21:55:49 UTC No. 877877
>>877723
The Japanese method is based, look at old video games. The Japanese ones always visually hold up better than western ones. Being an artist is a more important skill than being some technical wizard.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:04:34 UTC No. 877905
>>877723
Not a single non-Japanese person can imitate their style. Not one. You can always tell when some westerner is just copying a style.
So, anon, it doesn't matter what path you decide to take because there's no real choice for you. You can't imitate the anime artstyle therefore you're stuck on using the western one.
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jan 2022 01:13:57 UTC No. 877907
>>877905
That's racist.
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Anonymous at Tue, 25 Jan 2022 19:50:28 UTC No. 878045
Anonymous at Sat, 5 Feb 2022 22:03:19 UTC No. 880383
>>877905
Koreans are pretty good at copying Japanese style.
Anonymous at Sat, 5 Feb 2022 22:39:03 UTC No. 880392
>>878045
I feel like a lot of these are just western products, but sold under a different name by those same western companies (or just licensed) in an effort to break into the Japanese market more than anything.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Feb 2022 01:53:45 UTC No. 880427
>>877905
>Not a single non-Japanese person can imitate their style
Most, but not ALL.
This might blow your mind, but there are tons of American cartoons that were made by Japanese (like Inspector Gadget, American Rabbit, etc.) and nearly every American cartoon is drawn and animated by Koreans.
Anonymous at Sun, 6 Feb 2022 22:30:19 UTC No. 880678
>>880383
They have similar genetics.
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Feb 2022 00:28:38 UTC No. 880703
>>878045
>the beatles
>the tokyo beatles
kek
Anonymous at Mon, 7 Feb 2022 04:28:59 UTC No. 880733
>>880392
moron, the chart basically shows that JP is just a copious hack who uses leftovers bootleg and resell them as their brand
And yet somehow there is a unique flair in their product version, while not always necessarily good.
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:04:48 UTC No. 881754
Anonymous at Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:10:36 UTC No. 881755
>>881754
you will never be japanese
Anonymous at Sat, 12 Feb 2022 01:53:26 UTC No. 881782
>>881755
technically, he could be naturalized Japanese
Anonymous at Sat, 12 Feb 2022 05:11:26 UTC No. 881806
>>878045
Clock Tower was such a good game that I will give it a pass.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Feb 2022 15:33:26 UTC No. 882057
>>878045
I am not even sure what you are trying to say with this post. Takara is pretty much Japanese Hasbro and Takara has licensing rights for Hasbro products including the ones by Milton Bradley. Toshiba, at one point, also had rights to sell GE products. Chipstar is just a competing product, it's not like Pringles can put a right on putting potato chips in a can and Pringles is still sold in Japan alongside it and other canned chip brands.
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Anonymous at Sun, 13 Feb 2022 16:11:52 UTC No. 882061
>>882057
It doesn't even matter whether it was licensed or not, people like >>877905 and >>881754 perceive it like unique Japanese thing that "not a single non-Japanese person can imitate". They can "always tell when some westerner is just copying a style" while turning completely blind when some jap is copying western style.
Not all stuff here is licensed btw, Hello Kitty, easily the single most recognisable Japanese character, is a literal rip-off
https://www.cbr.com/sanrio-hello-ki
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Feb 2022 18:51:24 UTC No. 882119
>>882061
I think showing a bunch of pictures of bootlegs doesn't really prove much. You can still tell what kind of person drew the said drawing even if it is a bootleg. The way that people draw is partially related to their culture and view on the world. It's extremely hard to describe it, and it really depends on the artists, but stuff like linework, the way they draw the face, the way they color, etc. is telling and has a sort of pattern to it. I feel the only way to fully understand some of the details if you want to mimic the art more accurately is maybe actually living in Japan for a while. I noticed after living in Japan for 2 years that my own art style changed a bit, and I feel these changes do reflect on my change in perspective after moving. This is unrealistic advice though, and I think it is better to try to work with your own limitations rather than against, and make something unique that says something about you.
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Feb 2022 19:22:43 UTC No. 882121
>>882119
I don't have the experience but my crackpot theory is that having to learn, for years, to write kanji in a precise stroke order may have something to do with it
Anonymous at Sun, 13 Feb 2022 20:25:04 UTC No. 882136
>>882061
Seethe & Cope, white devil
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 00:10:46 UTC No. 882172
>>882136
i hope your country gets nuked again
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 00:12:03 UTC No. 882173
>>882172
joke's on you, he's actually an American weaboo
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 00:16:58 UTC No. 882177
>>882061
All those designs are different. Is this autism.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 00:34:28 UTC No. 882184
>>882119
>>882136
The Chinese make similar bootlegs, would you defend them like that? You won't, because you're a mentally-ill weeb.
>inb4 anime website
I FUCKING KNOW
I WANT TO LEAVE
I'M HERE FOREVER
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Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 01:05:46 UTC No. 882189
>>882177
>All those designs are different
Yeah- sure they are.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:30:15 UTC No. 882270
>>882121
I was going to say, I feel Japanese art is more calculated, and I think you're probably onto something there since it is recommended to write Kanji in the correct stroke order with as much clarity as possible.
>>882184
If a Japanese person drew it, you can still most likely tell that it is from a Japanese hand, like you can a Chinese hand. I am not defending bootlegs, I am saying that it doesn't matter if it is a bootleg. It is not impossible to completely mimic the style accurately though, it just takes knowledge of the little details that most people would not normally think about.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 13:03:15 UTC No. 882272
IMO western games like Doom and Quake from Id Software are more influential.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 13:59:29 UTC No. 882275
>>882189
Different lineweight, different proportions, different clothes, different colors, different details.
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Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 14:50:38 UTC No. 882278
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:08:52 UTC No. 882280
>>877723
>>877905
There's no such thing as asian magic, they use the same techniques as the west.
The reason why some western artists fail at copying the anime style is because they want to head straight into stylization without knowing how to simplify or break down realistic art.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:15:08 UTC No. 882283
>>877723
>japanese pill of shittier skills but memorable designs
You will never surpass the Japanese at doing art. For example western comics are polished art, the epitome of the work of 3 people. Manga's are half assed sketchings of some guy. Manga's are across the board more artistically impressive than western comics. This is what western artists fail to understand: a mangaka's true skill is far greater than what he publishes. Look at comic conventions where season talented artists have to draw quickly with no help from an software, editor, inker, or colorist. Now look at what a mangaka can do in the exact same amount of time. The time it takes for Jim Lee to draw some 60$ sketch is the same amount of time for Kim Seung Gi to draw something that resembles cover art worth somewhere close to 1000$.
Again, the Japanese are superior in every conceivable way at art. This is a cold fact. You will never, ever, ever manage to even get close to the talent of a mediocre mangaka. Accept this and full embrace the western style.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:28:28 UTC No. 882285
>>882283
> Jim Lee
> Kim Seung Gi
Why you choose two Koreans to represent Japanese and the western artists?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:51:28 UTC No. 882288
>>882283
>Manga's are half assed sketchings of some guy.
Only doujins, mainstream manga like DBZ or Naruto have assistants.
>Look at comic conventions where season talented artists have to draw quickly with no help from an software, editor, inker, or colorist
They use software too lol
>Kim Seung Gi to draw something that resembles cover art worth somewhere close to 1000$.
They use ref
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Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 15:56:49 UTC No. 882289
>>878045
Can't blame them for taking something and making it better instead of inventing the wheel from the beginning. Why waste ressources?
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 17:34:34 UTC No. 882299
>>882285
Because Jim Lee is top tier artist from the US who defined the western comic look and KJG was exposed to the western market and did presentations at cons. There are zero actual mangaka's that care about comic book conventions so not many examples.
>>882288
>They use ref
KJG... references... AHAHAHAHA!
western artist: I used this reference of an AK-47 and it took me 1 hour to draw it on paper by looking at the reference.
KFG: I saw an AK-47 once and now I can perfectly render it in 2 minutes flat from every angle.
>They use software too lol
They don't at conventions u retard lol. That was the point of using drawing booths at conventions.
Anonymous at Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:19:55 UTC No. 882308
>>880427
How did you not only miss the point of that post, but also manage to equate it to an entirely irrelevant point of your own?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Feb 2022 21:42:36 UTC No. 882666
>>882308
>irrelevant point
Seemed pretty relevant to me. Why not?
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Feb 2022 21:48:18 UTC No. 882667
>>882275
>Different lineweight, different proportions, different clothes, different colors, different details.
I usually prefer Japanese art, but even I can spot the obvious similarities and plagiarism.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Feb 2022 22:57:05 UTC No. 882686
>>882667
You are too good for this board, enlightened one. Please return to the realm of reddit.
Anonymous at Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:31:07 UTC No. 882708
>>882686
lame shitpost
Anonymous at Wed, 16 Feb 2022 14:01:33 UTC No. 882866
>Western product
>:C
>Japanese product
<8D