Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 19:54:58 UTC No. 878432

>>878431
70 dollars for literal copy and paste

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 20:01:26 UTC No. 878433

(most) games are not art. this is acceptable.

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 20:31:11 UTC No. 878436

>>878431
Game devs are overworked for shit pay, people forget that CEOs like Kotick pocket the majority of the money

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 20:36:07 UTC No. 878437

>>878436
>ctrl+C
>ctrl+V

many games like this. From software games are all like this.

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 20:41:12 UTC No. 878439

>>878437
i like older games more, but it's common for them to constantly redo new games

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 20:54:34 UTC No. 878442

>>878439
from software, like the twitter embed in op, does not even change the animations from game to game

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 21:01:46 UTC No. 878443

>>878431
People who have never made anything in their life seething about things they don't understand.

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 21:08:41 UTC No. 878445

>>878436
>majority of the money
I highly doubt Kotick is getting most of the revenue at Activision.

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 21:39:41 UTC No. 878449

PS4 Held em back. We will have mid gen games for another two years.

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 22:13:13 UTC No. 878455

>>878431
I mean, isn't that kind of a good thing that it's the same?
I've never played either of these games so I can't comment on that, but when I buy a sequel to something, I'm just looking for more of the first but just "better".
I mean, I'd be pissed if they fundamentally changed how Monster Hunter worked, or if it didn't re-use monsters and animations I internalized after thousands of hours hunting them. Or even if some of my favorite weapon models didn't make a return.
I guess MH is a bit of a different thing, but games doing more of what they've already done just isn't an issue for me. As long as they put the work in to make it a bit different but still keep what I enjoyed about the first.

Unless the sequel is somehow less of a game than the first. Then I have an issue. With the first, it's understandable a good chunk of development is spent refining the engine, art direction, workflow familiarization, and all that jazz, so there's noticeably less time to fill up a game. But if you have all that done, and then go in to make a sequel and somehow it's not "bigger and better" despite building on the work you've already done and STILL HAVE, then that's fucking embarrassing.

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 22:13:22 UTC No. 878456

>>878431
Most gamers have no clue how games are made, it doesn't make sense to redo a perfectly good animation since that means more time for other aspects of the game. Fallout New Vegas was only as good as it was because they could save time reusing assets from Fallout 3 rather than make everything from scratch.

Anonymous at Thu, 27 Jan 2022 22:46:14 UTC No. 878459

>>878442
they do, they just tweak them. more importantly, from isn't owned by sony.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 00:40:32 UTC No. 878483

>Forbidden West and StBotW are expanded copy pastes of the last games
WHOAAAA
Who would have seen that coming?

Next you will tell me that for Persona 5 Royal, it's like you don't understand how milking work.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 00:49:05 UTC No. 878484

Monster Hunter and Smash does this a lot

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 08:59:41 UTC No. 878592

>>878437
That's Japanese so it's immune to criticism.

Shhh

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 12:29:58 UTC No. 878600

>>878456
this
you'd have to spend extra money getting the mocap girl to do it again but different for a thing most players will not even notice

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 15:09:59 UTC No. 878624

>Mario jumps on Goomba in Mario
Bros
>Mario jumps on Goomba in Super Mario Bros
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 16:58:14 UTC No. 878656

>>878431
What a stupid thing to point out. What is this? Did this guy think he had a gotcha moment? Sure buddy let's see you make a unique animation for every single conceivable ingame action. Go on.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 20:35:47 UTC No. 878690

>>878656
They condition people to act like this with claims of "next gen" graphics and animations whenever they make a new console.

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 21:23:55 UTC No. 878703

I hate gaymurs. I see people bitching now about arrow explosion effects because “they look like 2d sprites”. No shit? Do people think explosions in games have full volume or what?

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 22:34:34 UTC No. 878727

>>878624
kek

Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jan 2022 23:21:39 UTC No. 878732

>>878600
God I want a mocap girl to read instructions off the screen and do anything I want her to.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jan 2022 00:27:05 UTC No. 878740

>>878432
>70 dollars for literal copy and paste

It's a fucking sequel. It's literally the same fucking character. Why on earth would they make all-new animations for every action?

When has that ever been normal to do? What would even be the point?

To shut up some turboautists?

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jan 2022 02:20:27 UTC No. 878753

Gamers have no standards. This will sell millions.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jan 2022 05:19:18 UTC No. 878775

>>878431
I mean... they`re kind of right. They just release a the same shit under a much steeper price tag

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jan 2022 05:37:33 UTC No. 878777

>>878775
Do you think cars change how they look over time?

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jan 2022 07:50:41 UTC No. 878785

>>878777
so you are saying there is no point in buying these games anymore? I agree

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jan 2022 12:02:56 UTC No. 878813

>>878777
the cars arent even capable of having damage to them, like they can in the Matrix Demo, a FREE demo

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jan 2022 12:12:49 UTC No. 878818

I wish more game developers would reuse stuff. Reuse the fucking meshes and animation. Back in late 90s, the holy Westwood reused the fuck out of the internals of their games (rules.ini), to the point where faction from a game would be referenced as faction from previous game. Your fps flopped? Reuse the assets and do a moba.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jan 2022 14:22:29 UTC No. 878841

>>878813
if you are driving properly you should do all you can to avoid crashes
there's no need to implement complex physics for the few who need to entertain themselves by breaking the law

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jan 2022 14:34:44 UTC No. 878842

>>878841
there is no damage in the game, when even the free demo made by a handful of coders in their free time could do it for the Matrix Demo. Forza is absolutely not next gen.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jan 2022 14:51:06 UTC No. 878844

>>878431
Isn't this an expansion? Expansion packs have always reused stuff from the base game. Starcraft, Diablo, TES, Doom, and more. Pretty much since the beginning. Not sure why the reuse of stuff would be a problem unless Forbidden West is a new, stand-alone game.

Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jan 2022 21:22:10 UTC No. 878908

>>878844
>unless Forbidden West is a new, stand-alone game.
It is.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jan 2022 02:20:41 UTC No. 878955

>>878908
No kidding? I see the AAA game industry continues to devolve.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jan 2022 03:09:18 UTC No. 878959

>>878955
I've not played either game, but who really cares?
If people like what's going on in the first game, just add more to it for a second one. They don't need to re-invent the wheel every time. They've got a fuckton of assets and animations and stuff that they don't need to re-make, which gives them more time to focus on more important things like the gameplay and story. I mean they won't, but less work that needs to be done on assets is more time to work on other things. Or just shit out the game faster.

If the game has a number attached to the title instead of a subtitle though (i.e. Game: 2, instead of Game: Subtitle), there better be a big change and they better re-invent the wheel.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jan 2022 07:24:34 UTC No. 878992

>>878841
Fuck off, we had car damage since even ps1 games. This is whole heartedly laziness. When you copy paste shit you have time to refine the shit you copy and pasted.

Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jan 2022 10:49:42 UTC No. 879005

>>878959
Are you aware there are more than 4 people working on the game? Do you seriously think if a 3d artist in a team has less tasks, gameplay programmers and game designers will have more time for their tasks? Please be a bait, we’re not on /v/, I expect at least somewhat knowledgeable people here.

Anonymous at Mon, 31 Jan 2022 07:35:41 UTC No. 879150

>>878436
>people forget that CEOs like Kotick pocket the majority of the money

You have no idea how companies work do you, retard?

Anonymous at Sat, 5 Feb 2022 18:48:14 UTC No. 880349

>>878437
Shitty bait

Anonymous at Sat, 5 Feb 2022 19:09:21 UTC No. 880351

>>879005
If they have to hire less artists for less assets, they can hire more and/or better programmers for more and/or better code.

Anonymous at Sat, 5 Feb 2022 19:13:33 UTC No. 880354

>>878777
yes you fucking dumbass quit bootlicking these corpocucks and their shitty games already

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:13:44 UTC No. 881756

>>878437
>game is based
>do the same for the other games
i see no problem, fromsoft continues to be based

Anonymous at Fri, 11 Feb 2022 23:17:44 UTC No. 881758

>>878775
wait wait wait wait HOLD UP
you mean to say that the exact same car looks THE EXACT same in 3 different games? next thing you're gonna tell me is that it's that way in real life too and everyone doesn't have a totally unique car that looks different?

Anonymous at Sat, 12 Feb 2022 01:52:20 UTC No. 881781

those artists need a better manager

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Feb 2022 17:48:39 UTC No. 883196

>>878841
>remove the fun
shittiest bait ever

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Feb 2022 19:13:46 UTC No. 883204

>>878992
Agree with you in principle BUT you're ignoring one important fact here.
If these games use the original brand name they often have to make extensive contracts with the manufacturer and many of those don't want to see their cars getting trashed and destroyed. It becomes a clause in the contract and this is why in many games there is no real car damage.

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Feb 2022 03:28:09 UTC No. 884760

>>883204
Shut up retard, car damage is a key mechanic in forza

Anonymous at Sun, 27 Feb 2022 05:36:35 UTC No. 884774

>>884760
Damage simulation, yes (i.e. engine damage, fucking up suspension).
But you're full of shit in terms of car damage visuals. At most you'll get a bumper falling off, but the rest is just scratch decals.
Show me a car in Forza becoming a crumpled can after you hit a wall at 200mph, and maybe I'll believe you.