Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 02:59:57 UTC No. 883615

>if you put in effort and care into your work it will look better
Yeh, no shit. But when you have 1000 assets to make for a game in current year and not 1999, your artistic integrity goes out of the window real fast.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 03:41:11 UTC No. 883617

>>883613
Low poly is the exact same as shitty indie pixel art.
He speaks the truth, but it's not like it's some lost knowledge. It's pretty obvious to anyone that looks at it without nostalgia-tinted glasses.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 04:13:10 UTC No. 883620

>>883613
>I developed a new art style that solved this problem for indies which saves huge amounts of time but looks unique and AAA
What was he talking about?

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 04:44:14 UTC No. 883626

>>883615
Okay but was the thing he was talking about exist?
>>883620
I was just going through 3 arhives for a separate topic and I found him talking about some kind of art that could make it so you could cheat the work.

https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/3/thread/789297/#789350

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 05:03:59 UTC No. 883627

>>883620
Hand painting normal maps or something.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 05:59:53 UTC No. 883631

>>883626
>does some magical art style exist that nobody except for some unemployed anonymous shitter on 4chan knows about, and makes your shit work instantly not shit
No.
>art that cheats the work
There are no cheats. No magic style that makes your amateur work look AAA. It's AAA tier work because they have a team of experienced artists, a large budget and time.

Imagine schizo vague posting about some special secret techniques, on /3/ of all places. This dude 100% has never had a job and has several mental illnesses.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 06:55:19 UTC No. 883636

>>883626
Anon, if you keep reading through that thread you will see how retarded/autistic/narcissistic the guy is, basically a basement dweller with an inflated ego and zero professional experience (as he implied by saying
>nor have I even released my first game
and also
>I am okay at C++ and HLSL, though I am no master at them. I am however quite good at Blueprints and creating game logic, datasets, etc, and yes, I have made the rough ground work needed for some mechanics already.
That would mean that he is exactly like you or me, as unexperienced as anyone else)
His point was
>I know a process that indies can use to reach AAA visuals... but I'll never tell
The statement is brutally ambiguous, I honestly think the guy didn't even know what he meant because there is a lot of visual styles that fit the category.
There is a """clue""" in the post because he said that indies only do "pixel art, 2D, and low poly" (which is not the case at all, a lot of indies do actual PBR oriented graphics, make stylized models or just use asset packs, I could say that those indies make a 50% or 60% of the market and are, quite often, overlooked, a massive generalization coming from a "130+IQ" guy)
but still, there are AAA teams that use those art styles, that invalidates the statement automatically, I would go further to say that AAA quality is as ambiguous as saying that there is a "middle ground" because we have seen some really shit games made by AAA devs.
I say the guy is just delusional and you are worrying too much about this imaginary "middle ground"
If you are concerned about the art quality of your games, I would say that the best is to try and experiment with an uncommon artstyle as art direction is what saves a game from looking "old" or "cliché"
Half-life, Outlast, Sonic, Mario, even FNaF have defined styles that people look back to and make games or any art inspired on them.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 07:31:04 UTC No. 883640

>>883613
>I have done good hobby shit that the industry won't ever think to adopt
>be cAreFuL wHeN UsInG MSpAInT to drAw DifFusE mApS guiz it'll look better!
>btw have you heard of how great I am with unreal engine?
He didn't do as much 3D as he thought he did. Even in his "last" post, he was still trying to present himself as being better than the other hobbyists doing the exact same thing. I realised this quickly as a newfag years ago, because I wasn't learning anything from reading his posts, and he reminded me of a daz fag who ventured out of his shithole general to try and talk down to people.

I don't remember seeing his work, either. I do remember he married cris, though

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 07:47:50 UTC No. 883644

>>883631
Good points I guess I will just have to do the work haha. Was hoping someone could expand on it to see if it was bs.

>>883636
Well i did read most of it I don't really understand how I can sum indie and triple a together because he didn't provide a lot of information about it.

Only reason I ask is because I am trying to make my own game and there are a ton of assets that have to be done...I might have to make my game smaller or something which sucks but whatever.

>>883640
Hmm well I ws just trying to see if he had a better method for making models but like the other guy said you cant cheat the work.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:12:43 UTC No. 883653

>>883644
No shame on using asset packs anon, if you have an idea for a project don't let the assets hold you back, if the game is fun then it's all you need, the most important part of a project or a demo is presenting both the main mechanics and stablish an objective, everything else is secondary.
Just look at the early stages of Bastion and you'll see what I mean.
You might have seen this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LTtr45y7P0
This tells you a lot about the objectives you should have in the development phase of a game, either developing on your own or to present it to a publisher.
Also, no shame in making low poly or any style you want to/can achieve, you can use them as placeholders and replace them later.
Something I struggle is planning a really big project, but if you are a one man army you should stick to more simple ideas, games where you can make a simple mechanic and stablish a clear objective.
Look at Getting over it, Papers please or Tetris, single dev games and still quite popular, or look at jump king, very popular right now, easy mechanic, really hard to master.
Try to experiment doing something like this and it might help

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:34:11 UTC No. 883658

>>883653
Thanks for the help I will look into asset packs too then.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 08:40:14 UTC No. 883659

>>883658
No prob, devs help devs

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 10:39:45 UTC No. 883663

>>883613
Nope. It's the overall execution that matters, not one part. You can have the best art in the world, but it'll mean nothing if you have nothing to show off in the end to others in the end. It's nice to have great art direction, but keep in mind that the goal of your game is to make a good game, not an art museum. If your game is boring, people will always overlook the art.

Devs end up with "lazy low poly" because it's tremendously hard to finish games. A lot of older games were made by multiple well paid members as opposed to one solo dev. Most consumers don't care if games use assets or "lazy art styles" just as long as it's entertaining.
>>883640
As a rule of thumb you should never follow cynics. Even if you think you're tough to handle it, they prevent you from doing your best by being pessimistic and gloomy about everything.

It's easy to mistake it for wisdom, but it isn't smart since they are people who gave up on solving problems long ago. A lot of pros have a positive and humble outlook. A good attitude can always get you tremendously far regardless of the circumstances you go through. Being a sore loser is a choice.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 12:49:45 UTC No. 883685

>>883627
normal maps really are underrated on /3/. every time i see a 'waaa whats the POINT of sculpting it will die out' thread i know their normal maps are shit

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 14:22:48 UTC No. 883699

>>883663
>As a rule of thumb you should never follow cynics.
I think that's an unfair generalisation. Some cynics may also be assholes who only engage with people looking for advice only to pleasure themselves (like the frogposter), but some of my nicest and bestest teachers were cynics. I don't think many people were ever in danger of being taken in by the frogposter, because figuring out what he was saying took patience and the people who did that weren't by impressed by it. When giving advice properly, 4chan exposes people's flaws, and tells them exactly how to fix it, with no frills and often a great deal of cynicism. When giving advice badly, they don't engage with the question and they share unsolicited paragraphs of slurs and about how good their secret projects with Unreal are.

Just look at one of the French poster's three threads, for instance. If he never took the advice of cynics (imblying imbliqashindsns that he'd take advice...), all he would be left with would be the posts about how hopelessly gay the French are, and not the posts encouraging him to keep up the struggle to one day reach his goal of a corridor of rectangles.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:52:33 UTC No. 883739

>>883613
if this is a cris-post what he means by this is taking low-poly PS1 style models and putting substance painter textures on it

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Feb 2022 19:59:45 UTC No. 883740

>>883685
>add a few dents to metal object using normals
>looks 10x better
>/3/tards will never understand this
i go on here to laugh at all the retarded advice people give eachother (and the schizos)

M00t at Mon, 21 Feb 2022 00:03:35 UTC No. 883786

>>883613
Yeah

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Feb 2022 03:55:11 UTC No. 884182

>>883613
Was it this very post that inspired Cr*s to undertake his doomed quest to develop an AAA art style requiring low effort and artistic skill?
We may never know...

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Feb 2022 04:24:50 UTC No. 884193

>>884182
For all we know, duk anon has been cris this entire time.

Anonymous at Wed, 23 Feb 2022 17:25:36 UTC No. 884268

>>884193
>Always has been.

Anonymous at Sat, 26 Feb 2022 22:40:35 UTC No. 884694

yes he posted some good stuff but he also posted bat shit crazy essays about schizo tier conspiracys sooo not sue if its worth reading through his babble

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Mar 2022 02:30:54 UTC No. 885301

Based moderator finally saw my reports and deleted ALL of animation schizo threads. Thank mod!

Just wanted to say that. Posting it in this thread because it's relevant. It might as well be a schizo general, where we talk about different schizo pokemons we met in a wild. Duck schizo was at least fun to read, animation schizo triggers me so much for some reason. I hate that defeatist mentality while at the same time he is refusing to actually start practicing something.

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Mar 2022 04:05:51 UTC No. 885308

>>885301
>Based moderator finally saw my reports and deleted ALL of animation schizo threads. Thank mod!
Doing god's work anon. Appreciate u.
Wish we could have gotten a janny during the last round, if only to keep the schizo threads in check.

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Mar 2022 09:52:02 UTC No. 885320

if we ignore that
>AAA=gooder
then we can have an actual conversation about this
in a recent crunch, i was able to do some of my best work and i made several compromises along the way
not really sure what OOP is talking about, but if it's similar to my situation, then it's not something i would outright call impossible

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Mar 2022 10:21:17 UTC No. 885326

>>885320
I mean I will humor it but I don't understand what the fuck solving for sum of their parts even means. Too vague to be helpful.

Anonymous at Wed, 2 Mar 2022 21:01:39 UTC No. 885371

>>885326
he always spoke vaguely when pressed about the core of his beliefs

Anonymous at Thu, 3 Mar 2022 01:53:35 UTC No. 885391

>>885371
He simply refused to spoonfeed low IQ minds like you with his ideas which, in all honesty, , would make your heart stop.

>As if you could comprehend the sensei's technique.

Let me break it down for you, sheep:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SHK4J392rI

Tears streaming, waves of euphoria splash over you
>Pure Bliss
How elegant the CG symphony sounds - his lips on the 3D Flute. You have no idea, he was ahead of all of us- Most here even fell for his red herrings

R.I.P. Duckposter
>Rest in Peace

Anonymous at Thu, 3 Mar 2022 02:26:42 UTC No. 885394

>>885391
Vegeta, what does the scouter say about anon's schizo levels?

Anonymous at Thu, 3 Mar 2022 03:45:19 UTC No. 885407

>>885391
LMAOOO

Anonymous at Thu, 3 Mar 2022 13:23:59 UTC No. 885432

>>885391
Cool, we found a new schizo pokemon!

Anonymous at Thu, 3 Mar 2022 13:33:40 UTC No. 885434

>>885391
uh.... based department?

Anonymous at Sat, 5 Mar 2022 04:44:10 UTC No. 885682

>>885301
Lel.
>>>/g/85922391