Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 18:32:22 UTC No. 887223

>>887220
They need to get with the times

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 18:49:38 UTC No. 887224

>>887220
don't like it, don't use it

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:13:34 UTC No. 887230

>>887220
it's made for a stylus. you get used to it in 2 weeks. now go practice

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:17:17 UTC No. 887231

>>887230
Good UI doesn't require you to "get used to it."

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:28:26 UTC No. 887234

>>887220
It has a crazy amount of tools so I guess it's to be expected to a certain degree, just like controls in RDR2 are kinda confusing for a while compared to an average game because of so many mechanics. Sorry for /v/ tier comparison lol.

Yeah, it's better with stylus, but I do have to say it never became as comfy for me to work in it as much as other 3D software. There's always the feeling of another layer between me and the software that makes working with it just a little bit annoying.

People who give up on it because of the UI are ridiculous though.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:35:16 UTC No. 887236

I made the switch from Blender to Zbrush and while it was the best decision I made this year, fuck Zbrush UI. Couldn't make it without this YT tutorial that helps you change it.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:40:30 UTC No. 887237

>>887236
one of the most common defenses I hear for Zbrush's UI is that it's customizable. I don't understand if these people realize that you being able to make something not-shit doesn't mean it's well designed

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:42:11 UTC No. 887238

>>887231
what 3D software has UI that you don't have to get used to? you are talking out of your ass

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:47:02 UTC No. 887239

You just fucking suck and you're blaming the UI for your lack of skill.
You and every other faggot who does the same.
Simple as

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:50:45 UTC No. 887240

>>887238
No other 3D software eschews basic software standards the way Zbrush does. Standardized menus, navigation, and controls are totally thrown out in favor of bespoke nonstandard methods in Zbrush. It's not even a matter of difference between 3D software - Zbrush expects its users to relearn literally the entire way they interact with a computer.

UI Design is not about just throwing things at the wall and expecting people to work with it. And what's even worse is that you have some people like >>887239 who consider getting used to an obtuse UI a badge of honor.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:54:36 UTC No. 887241

>>887240
Literally the only thing that can be consideref "wildly" off-standard is the way zooming works.
Then once you stop being a drooling retard and stop trying to sculpt with your mouse and use a pen instead, you'll realize it's actually the best thing ever.

None of what you said is true.

You suck.

cope

seethe

dilate

ngmi

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:57:31 UTC No. 887242

>>887241
I too remember when Blender users called their awful UI "teh best thing evar" until they adopted industry standards.

You can learn to do anything with any tool given enough time. That doesn't mean it's "the best way," or even a remotely competent way of doing so.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 20:03:01 UTC No. 887243

>>887242
Blender's problem is a combination of shitty UI and shitty UX.
Its biggest problems being making 1/4 of its functions hotkey-only and burying settings that by logic should be neatly grouped together under 6 different tabs.
Being a program that "does everything" only further exacerbates the problem.
zbrush can only do sculpting. you need a handful of buttons at any given moment to sculpt things reliably.

fuck off.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 21:57:11 UTC No. 887262

>>887243
What functions are hotkey only? Maybe I can't remember because I got used to them, but it seems untrue.

Anonymous at Thu, 17 Mar 2022 22:04:16 UTC No. 887265

>>887238
blender 2.8+
Pre-2.8's UI is pure fucking cancer

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Mar 2022 01:20:33 UTC No. 887297

>>887220
>>887231
>>887237
>Zbrush UI is shit
t. non-tablet users
You're meant to do your own research

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Mar 2022 02:20:21 UTC No. 887302

The levels of NGMI you must exist in to be filtered by having to spend a week learning a software.

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Mar 2022 02:49:36 UTC No. 887305

>>887262
Because it is untrue. Since 2.8 all of the functions have a place in the menus.

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Mar 2022 04:55:21 UTC No. 887316

>>887220
>"You get used to it eventually"

There's no a single piece of professional software that this doesn't apply.
Not everything is MS Paint.

And no, I'm not shilling for zbrush. I don't even use it.

Anonymous at Fri, 18 Mar 2022 08:13:15 UTC No. 887324

>>887230
>it's made for a stylus
maybe viewport navigation but that's it,
>>887220
yes the interface is a piece of shit but it is the only program that works.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Mar 2022 04:07:09 UTC No. 887408

>best ui ever

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Mar 2022 08:28:36 UTC No. 887418

>>887408
which course is this?

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Mar 2022 11:35:24 UTC No. 887433

>>887241
The zooming is fine you seething dickling, it's everything else. You can literally see the years of software updates piled on top of each other like a desk that hasn't been tidied and is just piled up with important stuff buried under decaying useless stuff. It's the design logic of an ocd hermit hoarder surrounded by piss bottles. The fact it can handle trillions of polys, and has a kind of nice brush feel, doesn't justify the disgraceful shitshow that is everything else.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:10:08 UTC No. 887436

>>887433
you need to customize your ui. Dont blame the tools.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Mar 2022 13:33:47 UTC No. 887446

>>887433
retarded take
again, you only need a handful of things to actually sculpt, everything else is just bloat that you will maybe use once in a blue moon in comparison.
once you place your preferred clay brush (clay, claybuildup or clay tubes), standard, dam standard, inflate and move brush shortcuts and the dynamesh/subdivision settings in your UI, you have everything that you'll use 99% of the time that isn't readily available on the default configuration.
Anything else you will not use it often enough to justify cluttering your UI like this gook weeb niggerfaggot did here >>887408 and then moan about your own retardation.

>the design logic of an ocd hermit hoarder surrounded by piss bottles
>it's the fault of the piss bottles that they filled themselves with piss and are now laying themselves on my floor
pottery

keep blaming anything but yourself, you'll go places.

Anonymous at Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:06:20 UTC No. 887471

>>887220
its different from a lot of other software, and its a bit cluttered.

all that said, its probably THE MOST customizable interface in any 3d program to date, you can move literally anything in the interface or just get rid of it, bind any custom hotkey you want, and create custom nested menus and custom popup menus, and then bind those menus to any custom hotkey. so anyone who's spent any time in the software will likely have their own custom menu with all the features they use every day, so 99% of useful features will be accessed with a single hotkey and menu. you just have to take 5 minutes to learn how to actually set this up.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Mar 2022 01:07:05 UTC No. 887538

>>887436
>you need to customize your ui. Dont blame the tools.

the fact that you have to customize the UI in order for it not to be bad is entirely the tool's fault, though

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Mar 2022 01:11:19 UTC No. 887539

>>887446
>user interface is an OCD hermit hoarder surrounding its users with piss bottles
>this is a good thing and you should spend time cleaning up the piss bottles and wading through the fecal matter smeared all over the carpets in order to reach the two buttons you actually need

did this sound at all reasonable in your head

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Mar 2022 01:14:49 UTC No. 887540

>>887538
you're beyond saving.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Mar 2022 01:19:39 UTC No. 887542

>>887540
Well whose fault is it then? If it's mandatory for the UI to be customized before the UX can be considered even remotely serviceable, who made it that way in the first place?

Good UX doesn't need to be customized before it's usable. That means it is objectively bad.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Mar 2022 01:31:30 UTC No. 887543

>>887542
fuck off cris

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Mar 2022 01:37:30 UTC No. 887544

>>887543

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Mar 2022 03:56:49 UTC No. 887556

>>887408
I kneel

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Mar 2022 06:02:22 UTC No. 887566

Tens of thousands of women learn this every year and /3/ can't.

gonna remember this next time one of those threads come up.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Mar 2022 13:03:34 UTC No. 887592

>>887220
Hopefully Maxxon initiate a contemporary node based redesign and throw the redundant 1990's crt monitor ui in the garbage. Maybe then it will start to catch up with Maya, Blender, Houdini etc.. It's unusable in its current state.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Mar 2022 13:10:51 UTC No. 887594

>>887220

I keep hearing this sentiment nigga. Just fucking customize it Cris. Fill it up with overblown scripts like that one Iranian artist on wingfox.

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Mar 2022 15:07:50 UTC No. 887600

>>887592
>I can't sculpt.
FTFY

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Mar 2022 22:12:41 UTC No. 887634

>>887220
>>887408
Good grief, and people sill give Blender a hard time for its UI?

Anonymous at Sun, 20 Mar 2022 22:23:10 UTC No. 887638

>>887634
nu-Blender is a masterclass in how to fix a broken UI. For years they did things different from every other software package and insisted their way was better, until finally listening to their users and doing a full rebuild. Overnight it went from a total joke to a usable software package.

Anonymous at Mon, 21 Mar 2022 00:57:41 UTC No. 887655

>>887220
I mapped ctrl-Z on my wacom pen intuos 3 windows 10 but latest zbrush doesn't react to it

why? help!