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Anonymous at Tue, 17 May 2022 11:42:57 UTC No. 897752
Help bros
I'm modeling what would be a final level mech for a videogame. The idea is that can you level up your mech's body and weapons.
This is the highest level mech, which should be a behemoth - the largest of the bunch. Yet I can't help but feel it still looks like a toy - when it should be hueg.
I tried adding more and more elements such as turrets, walkways, ladders and little bunkers to give the viewer a scale reference and that's helped a bit - but I still don't have the result I want.
What do?
Anonymous at Tue, 17 May 2022 12:09:49 UTC No. 897759
>>897752
Your mech looks like a low-level enemy, because it is top-heavy (which makes it seem like it can be toppled over at anytime). Use silhouettes, and have the final design be abit more "grounded", maybe longer legs, defined "feet".
PS no offense but it also reminds me of a garbage bin
Anonymous at Tue, 17 May 2022 12:14:34 UTC No. 897761
>>897759
Thanks, senpai. My boss seems to like the chunky, square design, but I see what you mean about it being toppled over easily. Something to do with the weight-stability of the design.
Yet, I'm still thinking about "scale". Looking at that picture, would you say that robot is as tall as a building or as tall as a house?
Anonymous at Tue, 17 May 2022 12:18:41 UTC No. 897764
>>897761
It feels to me more like human to room ceiling height, you could help with the sense of scale by incoporating something that is easily recognisable into its design, that way people will see that thing there, and go "ok that is always that size, so the entire model is bigger than that, and proportionally is this size"
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Anonymous at Tue, 17 May 2022 12:26:09 UTC No. 897766
those giant torx screwheads still just look like torx screw heads. panelling in general will help.
what's that ladder for on the leg? :)
Anonymous at Tue, 17 May 2022 12:33:09 UTC No. 897769
>>897766
Scale :^)
What's a torx screw head? :^)
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Anonymous at Tue, 17 May 2022 12:36:18 UTC No. 897770
>>897766
I mean I added the ladders for scale reference, yet didn't think about the utility much. I figure if maintenance was to be done on this robot engineers would use cranes and lifts before using ladders and walkways on the robot itself - yet it was an idea my boss had and I just went along with it.
Anonymous at Tue, 17 May 2022 12:51:07 UTC No. 897772
>>897770
Those are details that aren't really visible at first glance, have a big, distinctive feature that is easily recognisable as "definitely huge", like a tree, building, etc, some mechs get around this by showing the pilot's compartment encased in glass, so you can get a scale of how small the pilot is compared to the whole thing
Anonymous at Tue, 17 May 2022 12:55:53 UTC No. 897774
>>897772
Yeah, of course the scale will be visible in-game what with the surrounding models and whatnot. But I want the hugeness to be clear by looking at the robot by itself, without relying on external elements.
Anonymous at Tue, 17 May 2022 13:01:06 UTC No. 897776
>>897752
Flak cannon on top seems to be too big if its a normal flakvierling, crotch cockpit looks more lika a one person cockpit you would see on construction equipment, looks like one could easily topple it and normally things get smaller the taller they are, just my 2 cents, don't quote me
Anonymous at Tue, 17 May 2022 13:04:21 UTC No. 897778
>>897774
Yes exactly that's what I'm saying, integrate a tree or something into **the model's design***
Anonymous at Tue, 17 May 2022 14:02:47 UTC No. 897792
>>897752
Protip: think about how it would be built
Your mech is smooth. Presumably it's made of a metal of some sort?
You really think that it's feasible to produce a single sheet of metal that's like 10 storeys tall?
You really think someone would use a fastener the size of a car and put a screwdriver slot in it? Lol
Scale is an aspect of realism
Realism comes from real world constraints like manufacturing and material limits etc.
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Anonymous at Wed, 18 May 2022 14:27:58 UTC No. 898012
>>897752
Your surfaces are too uniform for what should be a mobile base on legs. You should break that form and add more details in places where the plating is unnecessary/obstructive. Rivets, pipes and covers should add that sense of scale. Most of the surface details can be added with texture normal maps, but the best option would be to strip the plating and add some mechanical parts instead.
Anonymous at Wed, 18 May 2022 14:41:24 UTC No. 898014
>>897770
Why not do a place holder and do a playtest for the feel
You can try various types of shapes and scale
Anonymous at Wed, 18 May 2022 14:54:24 UTC No. 898018
>>897752
sharper edges, get rid of the boring legs, add weird movements to its movement style
Anonymous at Wed, 18 May 2022 18:18:04 UTC No. 898077
>>897752
>I'm modeling what would be a final level mech for a videogame
Just put a sunglasses on it and call it a day.
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Anonymous at Wed, 18 May 2022 20:39:44 UTC No. 898112
>>897752
other anons are dropping some good advice about the construction. my 2 cents would be to look at some giant military equipment
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Anonymous at Wed, 18 May 2022 22:50:19 UTC No. 898143
>>898112
also look at massive machinery, these walking dragline excavators are probably the closest thing we have to mechs. I mean look at thing, it's a moving building!
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Anonymous at Wed, 18 May 2022 22:54:26 UTC No. 898144
here's a good example of why you need to have more "people sized" stuff on the bot. this excavator is huge, one of the largest ever made, but it's hard to get an exact sense of scale
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Anonymous at Wed, 18 May 2022 22:55:33 UTC No. 898145
slap some cars next to it and your brain figures out the rest pretty quick
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Anonymous at Thu, 19 May 2022 07:45:25 UTC No. 898240
OP here. Thank you all for the great advice. I'll update you guys on progress soon.
In the meantime I brought it over to Unity to see what it looks like.
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Anonymous at Sun, 22 May 2022 09:11:28 UTC No. 898925
>>897752
that window is too big + fragile for the crew take a look on how battleship bridge windows look like
legs should be bigger especially feet no way something that big can be hald up by these tiny legs
also on these leg joints same logic they look like they are gonna break
that right arm looks..silly make it bigger
also learn from the masters theres tons of good mecha refs around
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Anonymous at Sun, 22 May 2022 13:36:15 UTC No. 898953
>>897752
get rid of the bolts, make joints thicker, exaggerate some shapes
another problem is that its shape is very reminiscent of those old robot toys
the architectural elements you added are a good idea though