Anonymous at Thu, 16 Jun 2022 17:28:52 UTC No. 903780

No, it's basically Blender in vertex edit mode. Mad respect for the autists still using it, though.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 00:08:47 UTC No. 903840

>>903780
Wrong, i been using it for years and it's better than Blender. I can easy follow Maya guides and other tricks without worrying if something is missing.

Also unlike blender, Metasequoia 4 has better bone and sculpting without being scare of overheat of my pc.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 06:13:32 UTC No. 903873

>>903840
>Metasequoia 4 has better bone and sculpting without being scare of overheat of my pc.
Really?

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:43:14 UTC No. 903912

>>903873
yep that is why MMD became popular and the software was one time purchase so it worked very well.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 14:33:35 UTC No. 903935

>>903840
>Is Metasequoia (freeware) better
>yes because bone
>website says paid feature

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 14:47:45 UTC No. 903936

>>903935
well ya, cant give away free powerful tools away

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 15:14:24 UTC No. 903942

>>903936
Irrelevant, don't advertise paid features as a reason to use the free version.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 15:18:48 UTC No. 903944

>>903771
Its only better if ur a permabeg who doesn't want to learn 3d and just want to quickly shit out models for your autism project
>>903912
case in point

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 15:48:07 UTC No. 903946

>>903771
just use Max dumbass.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 15:49:58 UTC No. 903948

>>903942
>>903944
Let me remind you both that blender bones suck, it does not follow common practice nor does it help the artist. There is no other cheaper software to make bones either, so blender has been misleading many people to their doom ever since.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 16:36:07 UTC No. 903966

>>903771
do not bother with freeware. if you don't like blender just pirate maya or something. your kneeing yourself using something that is nowhere close to industry standard

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 16:53:36 UTC No. 903970

>>903948
In what way exactly? Sure the automatic weighting sucks but on the other hand it has rigify. If you want to pay or pirate there's also autorig pro and voxel skinning.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 17:59:40 UTC No. 903986

>>903970
It does seem that anything requiring spinning will cause blender to go crazy. Never in any other video or model i seen in blender has the power to spin something. I looked it up and guess what it requires a 3rd party program because blender sucks at it.

Playback sucks, you cant see your work because blender sucks at playing back for you to view.

I just learn that blender just added basic animation things that Maya and other 3d software added for years. it was added in 3.0 and yet 3.0 broke it, not really something you want to happen.

every video recommands 3rd party plugin, if anything tells me that blender animation sucks is youtubers and "experts" telling me to download 3rd party plugins because blender sucks at animation, the developers have been making this software for years is it's natural that they suck at it.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 18:22:39 UTC No. 903989

>>903986
You sound like you don't know SHIT about rigging and animating. Can you be any more vague?

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 19:11:29 UTC No. 903996

>>903840
what the fuck are you smoking? Blender has a pretty good rigging system, Metasequoia "rigging" is milkshape tier

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 19:33:56 UTC No. 904000

>>903989
>>903996
what part of spinning, playback and requiring 3rd party plugins do you not understand. If you dont understand what i said then you dont understand 3d animation and blaming the blame on me for your lack of understanding in animation is just sad.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 19:54:38 UTC No. 904003

>>904000
which part of "you can't build a fucking rig" do you not understand?

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 21:20:20 UTC No. 904025

>>904003
Yes it does offer it, if you still talking about the free version you didn't do any actual research because there is no export. Everything on the free version stays in the software. Again you don't give away powerful tools away for free.

Metasequoia was build to make 3d models not create movies or videos like Blender because any one with a mind knows that it's better to not push your software to unreasonable levels.

MMD was created for that very reason, the software doesn't need to have 3d tools, MMD justs works perfectly doing it's one job that another developer with more experience in animation made for the community.

There isn't any free software that allow you to add bones to models. The only other one besides blender is Clavicula, just like 2d artist pencils are not free.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 22:09:47 UTC No. 904033

>>904025
Now show me a facial rig created in metasequoia. Or a rig with ik/fk switch on legs.

Anonymous at Fri, 17 Jun 2022 23:03:32 UTC No. 904042

>>904033
Yes it does exist, i took a model from honkai impact, place bones quickly (dont care how bad it was made) and moved it.

Here is video from 5 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGpQGoYnveQ

Here is the manual if you bother to even read: https://www.paperempire.com/meta4-man/

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jun 2022 01:52:14 UTC No. 904056

>>904042
Not the previous guy, but thanks for sharing, appreciated. I assume the rigged model from metase can be easily exported to other program , or just MMD only ?

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jun 2022 06:53:09 UTC No. 904076

>>904000
What's your issue with spinning? Gimbal lock? Odd deformations? Something else? You can't just say spinning doesn't work if you don't describe precisely how it doesn't work. I think you're just trying to blame blender for your own lack of knowledge.

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jun 2022 08:19:40 UTC No. 904088

>>904076
This moron probably wants to spin quaternions (blender default) and doesn’t understand why it doesn’t work

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jun 2022 08:25:35 UTC No. 904089

>>904042
Yeah, great response that has nothing of what I asked for.

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jun 2022 13:57:09 UTC No. 904113

>>904056
It can be in other programs, UE4, Unity and BVH format.

>>904076
>>904088
This explains it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HXOlu0awmI

and this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyib3zVVYKs

and so much more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDTIZ-GgsAc

So don't tell me blender animation is better when it can't fix simple problems that were done years ago. Blender is never good for animation and it will never will.

>>904089
I am not going to spend hours to move the face, that is not easy. If that isn't what you wanted, you do mean being able to FK/IK, it does that too. READ THE MANUAL.

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jun 2022 16:58:47 UTC No. 904128

>>904113
You are literally too ignorant to understand why you’re ignorant. And I guess that’s fine if all you care about is mikumikudancd

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jun 2022 17:31:07 UTC No. 904132

>>904128
Sorry if you cant read the manual or allow yourself to waste time on blender for bad results.

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jun 2022 17:58:22 UTC No. 904139

>>904132
Yeah, I read it, hence my previous post

Anonymous at Sat, 18 Jun 2022 20:59:21 UTC No. 904170

blender sucks