Anonymous at Mon, 4 Jul 2022 05:33:33 UTC No. 906624
>>906612
based, high polys are the future
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Jul 2022 07:02:54 UTC No. 906629
>>906612
Ok but paper mario has no polys since everything is a fucking piece of paper anyways. They can afford to burn the rendering budget on this.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Jul 2022 07:23:33 UTC No. 906632
Dear God.
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Jul 2022 09:46:22 UTC No. 906642
>>906612
does it deform in a way where all the tris on the body are necessary, or is this an example of genius nipponese engineering?
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Jul 2022 10:09:34 UTC No. 906644
what's the point when you have smooth shading?
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Jul 2022 10:58:01 UTC No. 906647
>>906644
...should we tell him?
Anonymous at Mon, 4 Jul 2022 11:47:13 UTC No. 906649
>>906647
he's right though
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Jul 2022 02:14:52 UTC No. 906739
yandere toothbrush tier
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Jul 2022 08:19:41 UTC No. 906782
>>906612
Poly count rarely matters these days
I've made Nintendo switch mods on real hardware with millions of polygons per model that don't seem to impact framerate at all
draw calls > shader logic > texture size > random bullshit like number of uv islands > poly count
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Jul 2022 09:27:55 UTC No. 906786
ITT retards who don't do 3d
>>906644
this thing is entirely round, the cleanliness of silhouette is directly tied to the polycount.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Jul 2022 12:28:09 UTC No. 906805
>>906782
I've worked on various client projects for Switch (and AR/VR) and they always required a heavy optimization. Switch is weaker than a smartphone these days.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Jul 2022 12:46:23 UTC No. 906808
>>906805
>heavy optimization
Any tips for good performance?
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Jul 2022 15:18:00 UTC No. 906830
>>906805
oh sure, models are optimized on nearly any commercial game. That's just reality.
But again, you really don't require low polycounts for the Switch or any other hardware since the Wii era.
Don't believe me? Go bust out Switch Toolbox and swap out some random model on any game (note that first party games have a strict filsize-based resource management system, but it's always fairly easy to reverse engineer and set to some ludicrous number for your model).
You will find that the limit for polycount to start affecting framerate is in the tens of millions, if that.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Jul 2022 16:29:03 UTC No. 906845
>>906830
Maybe, I haven't tested it myself, I only got specs from clients, tri counts were a few thousand tris at most, usually around 1k from what I remember. Also it depends on tech, there's one project I'm working on that requires even heavier optimization due to their specific gameplay mechanics, and that one is for PC. The point is, polycount (unfortunately) still do matter these days, at least for some projects, but it's not rare.
>>906808
I only worked on assets and had no info about the rest, for polycounts it had to be kept at minimum, everything has to affect the silhouette, otherwise you should usually remove it. Also, LODs are important, e.g. it could be 50% for LOD1 and 10% for LOD2 or something like that.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Jul 2022 10:37:40 UTC No. 907014
>>906612
>extremely complex
lol
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Jul 2022 23:47:10 UTC No. 907344
>>906612
Which is completely ruined by the aliasing.
Honestly seems like a shitty model "enhanced" by 7 level subsurf.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Jul 2022 09:28:48 UTC No. 907372
>>906632
But wait, there's more.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Jul 2022 15:18:48 UTC No. 907398
>>906642
It does deform.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Jul 2022 23:25:47 UTC No. 907459
>>907398
then there's nothing wrong with this model
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Jul 2022 02:09:16 UTC No. 907475
>>906612
What's the point of this thread?
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Jul 2022 02:10:05 UTC No. 907476
>>907475
It's a bucket
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Jul 2022 21:10:35 UTC No. 907637
Damn that's a fine ass bucket
Anonymous at Mon, 11 Jul 2022 04:10:39 UTC No. 907709
>>907372
No…
Anonymous at Mon, 11 Jul 2022 04:31:11 UTC No. 907711
>>906612
If they had Nanite it wouldn't have even been an issue
Anonymous at Mon, 11 Jul 2022 23:41:54 UTC No. 907828
>>906612
Only newfags find this impressive
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Jul 2022 16:29:14 UTC No. 908063
>>907476
Dear god...
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Jul 2022 18:31:56 UTC No. 908077
>>907372
please show us more
Anonymous at Wed, 13 Jul 2022 18:45:45 UTC No. 908080
>>906612
isnt this a summon with sem-complex animations that fills most of the screen?
Polycount is a non-issue in this case
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Jul 2022 03:52:40 UTC No. 908466
>>906830
Strangers of Paradise had an 8m straight out of Zbrush import model and it caused massive amounts of lag, crushing framerates down to the teens even on a 3090. You're telling me Nintendo somehow magically solved this problem on dogshit hardware? Think you're retarded, or Cris.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Jul 2022 22:24:30 UTC No. 908918
>>908466
Glad you mentioned SoP. It is the perfect example for why polycount doesn't matter on current hardware.
The only slowdowns from the geometry are loading times because minor enemies are 50 mb a piece.
Don't get me wrong, there are major issues with the SoP's optimization. But polycount is a minor, almost inconsequential symptom of a much larger problem.
The biggest performance hits in SoP are actually the hair/fur shaders, the reflection shaders, and the particle system in general. Mods that disable these features turn the game silky smooth despite the absurd polycounts.
Go ahead, look up the fixes people have made, they're all shader related.
Anonymous at Sat, 30 Jul 2022 20:21:46 UTC No. 911382
>>907475
Probably in an attempt to get people to talk about model optimization even though the reason the model has a shitload of polygons is so it can deform smoother in-game (which it does)