🧵 Grease Pencil is a retarded gimick
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Aug 2022 21:54:03 UTC No. 914210
Look at this shit !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZy
It would be better to simply model it all in 3D rather then playing with the 2D cancer.
Anonymous at Tue, 16 Aug 2022 22:49:52 UTC No. 914224
>>914210
As a traditional artist getting into blender I’m finding a lot of uses for it, but it doesn’t seem to have many modeling applications and it does seem like more trouble than it’s worth to so what the guy did in that pic. I still wish there were more videos on workflows to create things like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0r
I’d really like to see how things like these work, but for now I’m happy just messing around.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 05:10:06 UTC No. 914311
>>914224
>As a traditional artist getting into blender I’m finding a lot of uses for i
Tell me more.
Blender has new crap that the community sucks their own dicks over and then they quickly forget about it because it is garbage.
Case in point.
Dynotopo.
Literally everyone got their dick wet over this crap, it is unusable garbage and after blender got the voxal remesher everyone pretends dynotopo does not exist. Because outside a handful of artistic uses dynotopo is useless garbage.
I was excited for the sculpting in Grease Pencil to basically do 2D only traces of pictures. Yet it is still garbage.
My point is that he is retarded how taking that many steps to basically create a cube. You can do it faster and better if you do that in 3D.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 05:35:25 UTC No. 914317
>>914311
Are you on crack? I still use dynotopo regularly and HATE voxel remesher because it deteriorates the shape due to the simplicity of the algorithm unless I crank up the resolution like crazy.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 05:37:37 UTC No. 914318
>>914317
No one uses that anymore. Proof find any tutorial in modeling in 2022 that uses dynotopo. Literally no one uses that because it lags hard.
>unless I crank up the resolution like crazy.
This is what you are supposed to do.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 06:21:52 UTC No. 914321
>>914210
OP here this is what I'm talking about
https://youtu.be/nZyB30-xZFs?t=831
https://youtu.be/nZyB30-xZFs?t=951
It is so much simpler to simply use a ARAY or mirror for this.
The same thing I made in 3D
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 06:47:45 UTC No. 914328
>>914327
>Try harder next time.
Yet what they say is true it lags. It is awkward. It generates ugly looking topology.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 06:52:07 UTC No. 914330
>>914328
What settings are you using? Also how are you using it? It's not supposed to be used for topology it's supposed to be used for getting the shape you want first and then thinking about the topology later.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 06:57:06 UTC No. 914331
>>914330
>you want first and then thinking about the topology later.
HUH ?
If you try to pull out like a tentacle, realistic tentacle then it will lag.
>it's supposed to be used for getting the shape
HUH ?
Use sub surf for that.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 07:21:09 UTC No. 914336
>>914321
This is peak crap
https://youtu.be/nZyB30-xZFs?t=1008
>Muh stroke order wrong
Literally why ?
Simply model it in 3D why bother with this shit ?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 08:08:18 UTC No. 914343
>>914331
Buddy I have no idea what the hell you're going on about all the professionals use dynotopo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65L
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-m
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 15:08:59 UTC No. 914387
>>914311
>Tell me more.
Normally I would, but I’m actually discovering a lot of stuff that is undocumented so I’m planning on doing a video series on it once I’ve finished a couple animations. Basically, if you are a traditional animator, it has a lot of functions that can take hours of work and turn it into minutes. I’ve used a lot of industry standard 2d animation softwares, and blender has stuff I’ve been wanting for years. Only TVP beats it out, but TVP doesn’t have some of the stuff I’ve discovered with Blender that lightens the work load considerably.
Now it definitely has its weak points. The drawing tools feel very similar to Flash’s (ie: the lines are never exactly what you drew) and panning the camera can create quite a few issues with your drawings when it’s an extremely simple thing in other drawing softwares, but so far those are the only snags I have found.
But again, I agree that the workflow in that video seems a bit asinine. Perhaps it has a place, but I wonder if it was more to get people used to drawing in space or something. There are better ways to do what he’s doing as well, but I’m thinking he’s just wanting to show off the tool rather than show a practical method of making things.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 17:04:22 UTC No. 914404
>>914387
>>But again, I agree that the workflow in that video seems a bit asinine
I modeled the same thing he did and using arrays and mirrors made it faster.
I rather the grease pencil not be shit. For example it whould be great for tracing. I especially like the sculpting the line.
Only it is cancer because there is no way to add more to a already stretched geometry or blender fucks it up.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 17:12:33 UTC No. 914405
>>914404
I don’t think I use it the same way you do, so I must not have come across those issues. Like I said, I mostly use it for drawing/animating, and adding textures to 3d objects. For my purposes it’s pretty nice, but like I said, could “feel” better in terms of actually drawing the lines, but then, only TVP has what feels like natural drawing.
I’m a bit confused about what you mean when you say tracing? Could you go into that a bit? Do you mean you’re trying to trace atop a 3d models?
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 17:47:02 UTC No. 914415
>>914210
>>Z IS FUCKING UP
this is worse, much worse
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:36:43 UTC No. 914422
>>914405
>I’m a bit confused about what you mean when you say tracing? Could you go into that a bit? Do you mean you’re trying to trace atop a 3d models?
Na I wanted to trace 2D pictures because the sculpting sounded as a cool idea.
Basically a cool and fast way to trace 2D pictures. Pic related.
I really see no need for it in 3D excluding some decorations etc. Its all about the rigs and the models.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:39:48 UTC No. 914423
>>914415
>>>Z IS FUCKING UP
>this is worse, much worse
Elaborate
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:52:02 UTC No. 914425
>>914422
Ah, I think I got it, so you were trying to trace over pictures then use the sculpting tools to get the lines to match it better.
I think Adobe Illustrator might be more what you’re looking for (or even Krita), but yeah, Blenders drawing tools are a tad lackluster unless you are taking full advantage of the software. Good for my purposes, and as a traditional animation software it’s surprisingly strong, but for general drawing and line work there are better alternatives.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:55:38 UTC No. 914426
>>914425
>>I think Adobe Illustrator might be more what you’re looking for (or even Krita),
Thanks for the recommendation. I never liked BĂ©zier curve. And the sculpting looked like a novel idea only this draw mode literally has nothing like a voxel remasher to simply add more geometry so the sculpting is limited and then the lines get fucked up.
DESU looks like another feature of blender everyone was getting hyped over and sucking blenders dick and now it will be forgotten by everyone.
Anonymous at Wed, 17 Aug 2022 19:47:23 UTC No. 914437
>>914432
It literally is inferior version.
3 Autistic moves to make a cube.
Or you know you can simply go SHIT+A -> Cube
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Aug 2022 04:19:08 UTC No. 914500
>>914465
>Answer my question. How do I make models like this?
This is a simple 3D model the eyes are painted on not sure if the nose is modeled or not.
>Like this
God low poly modeling is super hard. You want low poly yes ?
>Like this
Cheep trick. Take that model and then modify it to get a different character, you notices everyone in these old games looks like a clone of the same body type.
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Aug 2022 04:59:09 UTC No. 914503
>>914500
That's the weird french guy who was spamming the board with threads rejecting all feedback and help. He actively says that he can't make things, but continues to fruitlessly beg.
Anonymous at Thu, 18 Aug 2022 11:24:37 UTC No. 914544
>>914210
it's cool as a quick mockup tool. like whiteboard scribbles.