Anonymous at Mon, 29 Aug 2022 22:25:40 UTC No. 915881

>>915879
4 hours
at least 3 figures, maybe more because pokemon fans are pretty dumb

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Aug 2022 22:31:11 UTC No. 915882

....werent all the pokemon from smash ultimate ripped and uploaded over 4 years ago?

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Aug 2022 22:40:23 UTC No. 915884

>>915881
That's impressive, I thought it would take double that even for a skilled modeler.

I'm asking because Gamefreak argue that 1000+ Pokémon are not sustainable to model despite them not even doing the modeling(Creatures Inc does)

Assuming $300 a model, and roughly 300 forms, that's not even 400k. And you know Creatures employees aren't getting paid that.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Aug 2022 23:25:00 UTC No. 915889

>>915882
Smash assets are redone ground up by Namco, same applies for Pokken and New Snap.

Anonymous at Mon, 29 Aug 2022 23:32:40 UTC No. 915891

>>915884
that guy is 100% bullshitting, a pokémon would need modeling, uv wrapping, texturing, rigging, animating and then have the IP people be anal about any and every detail.

But Gamefreak is also arguing in bad faith, they claim that they had to redo every model when they didn't and even if they did had no reason to since the 3ds models were already detailed enough. (see picrel)

Anyway, don't buy new pokémon games because 3d made them shit, watered the difficulty down so that even a fish with down syndrome could beat the League, get yourself HS/SS instead and enjoy that game.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Aug 2022 00:13:46 UTC No. 915900

>>915891
Was agreeing with you until
>watered the difficulty down
•USUM entered the chat

Also Gen 2 is piss easy, can mow through most of the game with a Chikorita.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 Aug 2022 09:04:23 UTC No. 915927

>>915879
30 minutes:
>download ripped model
>inflate hips
>add fur
>autorig and make basic blendshapes
>done
Then take 3 months to "complete" it and charge at least 2.5k
>>915884
This was in response to the switch models, when they already had the 3ds models ready to go, so they were just bullshitting to sell more DLC.

Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 19:47:28 UTC No. 916362

>>915884
I mean, people who say 4 hours or $300 are memeing. A veteran character artist can do a good blockout in a day, a final model in 3-5 days depending on the complexity of the character. Some simple as shit designs like a Voltorb might take half a day total, yeah, but we're speaking of someone who knows what they're doing working at peak efficiency. And Gamefreak employees definitely aren't at the top of the art game. Go lower than that, shorten your timeline, and you end up with crap the likes of which would feel at home on /3/'s wip thread.

Modeling isn't the sole problem though, animation and rigging is. Pokemons can have vastly different body types, which means not a lot of skeletons/animation sets can be reused. Even humanoid Pokemons might have vastly different proportions which could break shared anims, meaning animations have to be manually adjusted for Pokemons, if not outright redone from scratch in some cases.

Anonymous at Sun, 11 Sep 2022 01:17:15 UTC No. 917481

>>915879
Model and texture to do what? Am I making complex bowel geometry?

Anonymous at Sun, 11 Sep 2022 06:36:10 UTC No. 917492

>>916362
I hope ai will solve the retopo/rigging problem for us once and for all. Such a pain in the dick .

Future workflows will be high poly sculpts auto baked and remeshed, and rigged, looking forward to that.