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Anonymous at Thu, 1 Sep 2022 17:38:44 UTC No. 916192
Greetings from /tv/.
Can you guys explain what the actual fuck this is
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Sep 2022 17:40:54 UTC No. 916193
>>916192
I think it's a woman.
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Sep 2022 18:05:07 UTC No. 916200
>>916198
how did this type of sexual dancing make it past censors?
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Sep 2022 18:13:38 UTC No. 916203
>>916200
It's okay when they do it.
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Sep 2022 18:31:03 UTC No. 916205
>>916198
Because this representation of women is supposed to empower them (btw, stop objectifying them, you bigot).
Anonymous at Thu, 1 Sep 2022 18:39:38 UTC No. 916207
>>916192
motion capture data applied to a rigged 3D model and composited into a filmed scene
3DGuy !!XhQDOznbDw3 at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 01:41:22 UTC No. 916267
>>916192
Maya.
The facial animation is NOT capture - idk what the fuck happened at the studio, but they had to hand animate her facial expressions.
The cloth dynamics on the suit are all over the place, and the body also saw a lot of corrections over the motion capture, hence ther cartoon feel. To make matters worse, they removed her skin pores and texture, making her look like a photoshop fix. I´ve saw better in videogames, and that proves that the VFX artists at Marvel are being crunched like slaves and simple don´t care anymore.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 01:53:17 UTC No. 916268
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 07:14:23 UTC No. 916287
>>916192
Literally how hard would it have been to paint her skin green and edit her proportions?
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 11:39:15 UTC No. 916302
>>916192
A terrible design concept, an ill fitting suit and some wonky motion. Lighting needs more neg and slight specular kick maybe, but hurdur PS2 graphics amirite fags need to get in the bin. It's a goddawful propaganda shitshow, but there isn't a single person on this board who could do just the hair to that quality.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 14:17:28 UTC No. 916313
>>916192
Lol, I see clipping on the suit. In the first second, 2 frames of the sleeve clipping through the arm.
Also they grabbed some random off-the-shelf suit. It's clearly a male-tailored suit. They also messed up the fabric simulation. And the fact that there are 3 other real suits in the scene just make matters even worse.
I vomited.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 15:48:54 UTC No. 916320
>>916287
Well, for one, it would look like shit unless it was expensive make up that would take hours to put on. Just see the BTS of the grinch or Mystic in xmen. Every thing nowadays is CGI because it takes less crew and manual labour. It can also be tweaked infinitely on a computer. While Real life physics are not always predictable.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 16:04:45 UTC No. 916321
The body motion looks like it came straight out of cheap mocap and filtered automatically to look smoother.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 18:02:44 UTC No. 916339
>>916192
>>916198
>"please take this live action footage, fully replace the woman with a green muscly woman with CGI. you have 3 weeks and 1 million. oh and btw we want 200+ changes made before the deadline. good luck!
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 19:19:02 UTC No. 916355
>>916313
>Also they grabbed some random off-the-shelf suit. It's clearly a male-tailored suit.
What gets me is that it takes like 30 minutes (if you're retarded/incompentent) or 2 (if you're not) to adjust the fit. Absolutely no effort, not even a little.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 19:23:52 UTC No. 916357
>>916339
>you have 3 weeks and 1 million
I work in games, not vfx, but Marvel is notoriously cheap on their vfx budgets. They're such a big brand name that fx studios are undercutting each other to get Marvel contracts, which leads to shit like the OP. Made even worse due to being a show instead of a film, which means the budget was even lower.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 20:55:24 UTC No. 916371
Marvel employee here, I'm not on this show but here is what I'm assuming happened:
>outsourced CG work to a VFX house
>said VFX house is more than happy to oblige every Marvel command because having done a Marvel contract makes their studio look good and probably rakes in some good cash
>higher ups in the VFX house are probably also funko cuck collecting yes-men that don't want to disappoint Marvel
>Marvel visual development is super out of touch when it comes to production pipelines and boundaries
>they order and reorder tweaks and revisions CONSTANTLY for everything from the character model to the textures to the animation all the way up until even the day things are supposed to be rendered, possibly even days before release of the actual show
>all the responsibility to get things done falls on the average joe vfx worker who has been through so much of this shit already that they're burnt out and their supervisors don't stand up for them and tell Marvel 'No'
>they don't have time to make things as polished as they're used to because Marvel has notoriously short deadlines and no respect for the time it actually takes to make quality art
>this is the result, a janky green whore with over animated facial expressions, bad motion capture with little clean up, patchy skin textures and a cloth sim rivaling something I made just from opening Marvelous Designer for the first time when I was in college
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 21:29:36 UTC No. 916377
>>916371
As a professional in another high demand tech company making billion of dollars, that seems to be probably what happened. It's what happens in my company at least. That seems coherent.
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 21:44:15 UTC No. 916382
>>916192
Not in vfx but to me the skin shader looks doughy and the animation seems off. What's wrong with the clothes sim?
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 21:46:26 UTC No. 916383
>>916382
>What's wrong with the clothes sim?
way too lose. she-hulk is meant to be ripped but in this scene she looks like a teenager wearing his dads double xl suit to buy beer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSM
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 21:52:51 UTC No. 916384
>>916192
Why isn't she wearing an office skirt?
Anonymous at Fri, 2 Sep 2022 22:13:43 UTC No. 916388
>>916384
Aren't those sexist in the Murrican media, now? The Murricans banned office skirt for some reasons. Prettty sure you can't have them in movies nowadays?
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Sep 2022 01:06:59 UTC No. 916413
>>916192
Idiotism, thats what this is, she hulk didnt gain anything aside being green, there was no need to make her shrek hands.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 3 Sep 2022 01:11:03 UTC No. 916415
>>916383
>way too lose. she-hulk is meant to be ripped but in this scene she looks like a teenager wearing his dads double xl suit to buy beer
If she was ripped she would offend the LGBTQ community
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Sep 2022 01:14:37 UTC No. 916417
>>916198
on paper 8 foot tall muscular babe shaking her ass should be the most arousing combination of words in the english language
why
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Sep 2022 01:30:40 UTC No. 916420
They somehow managed to make it as unattractive as possible. If she is gonna shake her ass at least make it hot.
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Sep 2022 02:02:24 UTC No. 916424
I never watched any Marvel movies from the very begining of the Marvel movie franchise. The last superhero stuff I watched were the original Spidermans, some Batman movies and maybe Hancock.
I'm beyond shocked of what I saw after searching this movie. To think that a few days ago, I passed by my little cousins watching it on TV and I just went on. This is pure garbage. It's not even laughable at this point. The comments on women, the twerking, the romance scenes...
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Sep 2022 02:04:32 UTC No. 916425
>>916424
this isnt a movie you shitstain. Its a tv series. Its significantly below the budget of their lowest budget flick
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Sep 2022 02:26:38 UTC No. 916426
>>916425
Still doesn't excuse the writing
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Sep 2022 19:23:03 UTC No. 916529
I was an intern on this show. I thought I got hired for a shrek remake, sorry.
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Sep 2022 19:58:28 UTC No. 916532
>>916529
oh, so you made coffee while the big boys worked
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Sep 2022 20:55:33 UTC No. 916541
>>916424
Nice bio.
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Sep 2022 22:20:23 UTC No. 916556
>>916313
THIS. THE SUIT DOESN'T FUCKING FIT
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
Anonymous at Sat, 3 Sep 2022 22:42:05 UTC No. 916559
>>916200
the sexual censors died six years ago, all hollywood media is just hyper normalfag sex now. Which ironicly disgust me since im a deviant too.
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Sep 2022 03:40:47 UTC No. 916584
Filmmaking is the worst it has ever been and probably will never recover
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Sep 2022 02:16:32 UTC No. 916821
>>916313
>>916556
wait wat?
don't they use wrapping simulations?
i'm learning marvelous designer but how can you get wrong the size?
I don't want to make the same error, any tips?
Anonymous at Sun, 18 Sep 2022 03:21:12 UTC No. 918614
>>916192
>Can you guys explain what the actual fuck this is
Trash... it's fucking garbage isn't it obvious?
Anonymous at Sat, 24 Sep 2022 16:43:50 UTC No. 919483
>>916371
The funko pop bit is so true lol
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Oct 2022 13:59:36 UTC No. 921565
>>916821
I did try to use MD's autofit tool on some shit I got from their store. Doesn't work. I think it's because it can't handle complex garments with buttons, folds, etc.
Nonetheless making a male suit fit a female is not hard in something like MD. You just google how a female suit is supposed to look like and just move points around until you get the same result. It's like a day's work at most.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Oct 2022 12:36:09 UTC No. 921778
>>916371
your assumptions are mostly correct, but still too optimistic...
>Marvel contract makes their studio look good and probably rakes in some good cash
Not anymore, studios don't earn good cash, they'll get paid with "exposure".
Marvel grants them the honor of working on their stuff - that is "payment" in the eyes of Marvel.
Marvel VFX don't look good anymore, their reputation is in free fall - they regularly land in the category of "examples of how NOT to do stuff".
Marvels mismanagement of VFX is becoming an inside-joke in the industry.
>all the responsibility to get things done falls on the average joe vfx worker who has been through so much of this shit already that they're burnt out and their supervisors don't stand up for them and tell Marvel 'No'
The amount of people saying No as soon as they hear Marvel is slowly reaching critical mass - that applies to average Joe VFX workers, Supervisors as well as whole VFX companies. They are bleeding talent left and right, people regularly choose good working conditions and some form of artistic integrity over constant insane micro-managment/pixel fucking and alleged fame via brand association.
The amount of "YES MEN" working for Marvel is ever increasing because everybody with conscience, talent and self-respect has or is walking out of this.
The worst part of this development (for Marvel) is that it has started at the top (directors/writers) and has worked its way down to average workers.
Everything they'll touch - they'll burn.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Oct 2022 09:32:37 UTC No. 921843
>>916192
its got that beowulf era "we dont know what to do with the hands" vibe. definitely in the uncanny valley
as far as i understand it, she hulk, but also disney as a whole, suffers from outsourcing their work with absurdly short deadlines and tight budgets, so in a sense they are getting what they pay for.
unfortunately its perpetuating the industry of worker abuse and giving CG overall a bad reputation
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Oct 2022 08:48:25 UTC No. 921986
>>916192
only americans accepts and watch this bullshit.