🧵 Making a bootleg version of Arc System works workflow.
Anonymous at Mon, 12 Sep 2022 03:12:44 UTC No. 917615
I remember being inspired by Arc System works GGXrd conference like 10 years ago.
So, today I can confirm I've used my blender and 2D and 3D skillset I've gained since them, to produce a much much cheaper style, that seems to be like 80% of Arcsys quality, but I think produces better imitation of 2D, in some details.
Taking into account pic related took around 6 hours of work from scratch, I'm pretty happy It gives a similar result to Arc sys (in the sense It imiates properly 2D look) but clearly without months of hard work.
As such, is a cheaper imitation, but one suited to indie game developers budget, who clearly lacks million in terms of skill and money.
So far, I'm extremelly happy with this workflow, but I clearly need to fix some issues, like finding a cheap way to create the hair details of anime hair strands by maybe drawing some hair strands as SVG in Inkscape then importing as SVG and converting as mesh.
Tomorrow will test that idea.
Also, grease pencil could help me with making inner lines, but I think a simpler HD texture with lines and alpha set to mix shaders could do the trick.
Made with Krita and Blender and aseprite and a sprite sheet addon.
pls rate.
Anonymous at Mon, 12 Sep 2022 03:19:48 UTC No. 917617
Fuck off Cris
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 12 Sep 2022 04:15:46 UTC No. 917623
>>917617
>>917622
You guys can seethe all you want, but cris will be at the top once he figures out how to fully automate his asset creation process. All of your industry jobs will be gone because AAA companies will be using cris's tools and you won't be able to compete. If you decide to be nice, cris may decide to make his patented workflow FOSS so you can finally feel what it's like to make a quality model.
Anonymous at Mon, 12 Sep 2022 05:04:27 UTC No. 917625
Now, a quick AI test using a free website.
I likely need smaller strenght, but I am unable now to run this AI using free collab tier, so I'm not sure if Invest in another month and try to recoup my money with some CGI gallery on DLSite.
Anonymous at Mon, 12 Sep 2022 16:06:01 UTC No. 917676
>>917625
Imagine not being able to run stable diffusion on your home rig.
Anonymous at Mon, 12 Sep 2022 16:38:11 UTC No. 917680
>>917625
your method is unironically slower, more expensive, and lower quality.
just go back being a cocaine farmer, cris.
Anonymous at Mon, 12 Sep 2022 20:22:23 UTC No. 917707
bros, bros, bros.
WTF
What happens if I mix the techniques of concept are I learned here.
https://twitter.com/ca3studio/statu
With the 3D cheap 2D anime waifu BS 3D animations I learned here.
https://twitter.com/Andrewaxer/stat
What happens?
Seriously.
What fucking happens.
100% sure something should happen.
WTF
Anonymous at Mon, 12 Sep 2022 21:25:17 UTC No. 917715
>>917707
>bros
We're not your bros cris.
Fuck off.
Anonymous at Mon, 12 Sep 2022 22:03:06 UTC No. 917719
>>917715
ok, my idea seems to provide interesting results, since I only have to use my render as reference to photobash using concept art techniques a more developed anime reference I then simply quickly just trace into a finished colored sketch.
:O
This actually creates quality results to me, but likely at just less mental effort than doing this picture from scratch.
Also I can simply then rotate and quickly edit the render and do a bunch of test with the 3D, to quickly have the perfect reference material before putting my hand into the expensive 2D step.
WOW.
Magic.
:)
chuds btfo.
Anonymous at Mon, 12 Sep 2022 23:00:51 UTC No. 917725
>>917719
Nice chickenscratch.
Anonymous at Mon, 12 Sep 2022 23:59:47 UTC No. 917729
>>917713 Cris Calvicie BETEFOEADO jaskjaskjaskjaskjaskjask
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 08:04:22 UTC No. 917762
fuck off cris
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 10:57:30 UTC No. 917786
>>917615
Looks like shit, you aren't even close to a comparison to Arc Sys, it looks like you just discovered cel shading and called it a day, what Arc Sys does goes well beyond just cel shading.
>6 hours
Don't quit your day job.
Are you serious or is this some kind of meta shitpost I'm just not aware of, like that guy who makes those shitpost nude models that look like complete shit.
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 16:59:57 UTC No. 917845
>>917786
Except...
Arc system works is a billion dollar company.
I'm just a malding loser using a toaster and blender and Krita.
Arc system works system took 2 months per character.
My system took 5 hours.
Any more questions?
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 17:00:59 UTC No. 917846
>>917845
why are you bald? bad genetics?
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 17:01:51 UTC No. 917847
>>917846
Spic spaniard genes.
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 17:02:47 UTC No. 917848
>>917847
:( have fun doing anime stuff cris, you can do it!
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 17:04:12 UTC No. 917849
>>917848
trying now to add AI to my mediocre anime shit.
will post some result soon.
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 18:54:16 UTC No. 917864
Honestly, Human + AI is where the real redpill in gamedev is.
This shit doesn't make artists obsolete, this shit like makes concept art tricks into sci fi art tech.
So yeah, pretty happy with this.
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 19:01:27 UTC No. 917866
>>917864
Are you ever going to fucking make something or are you just going to procrastinate forever
Coomers won't pay for your game if you never make it
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 19:02:36 UTC No. 917867
>>917866
I'm the R&D guy of /agdg/
I'm basically pioneering workflows for AAA indie games.
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 19:11:12 UTC No. 917868
>>917867
not without posting detailed steps, making tutorials, or writing up reference documents
You're clinical ADHD & can't focus on your goal, so you distract yourself with these side projects and never make progress on your game.
Get your fucking shit together and put some adderalls in your mouth
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 19:21:20 UTC No. 917871
>>917868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwX
>you didn't wrote a tutorial
I literally made a timelapse video of my process, dumbass.
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 19:40:43 UTC No. 917875
>>917874
I'm not a good teacher, you will need to hire some youtuber to make the tutorial.
sorry.
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 19:46:22 UTC No. 917877
>>917876
make it as what?
As a teacher?
No, I'm not a teacher.
Anonymous at Tue, 13 Sep 2022 20:00:32 UTC No. 917880
>>917877
Anything
You're never gonna develop a game
You're never gonna be anything
Nothing except for a spammer
Anonymous at Wed, 14 Sep 2022 01:44:22 UTC No. 917941
>>917845
Your not even matching games from 20 years ago with your work, theres no point in even trying to compare your work with arc sys, you cant even match what amateurs do in an hour after spending 6 on it.
You dont have a system, this is basic bitch cel shading.
Anonymous at Wed, 14 Sep 2022 02:06:19 UTC No. 917945
>>917941
except I don't have a budget anon.
Anonymous at Wed, 14 Sep 2022 02:59:51 UTC No. 917955
>>917945
Completely irrelevant, amateurs with no budget achieve better results daily and dont boast about it as if they achieved anything.
Anonymous at Wed, 14 Sep 2022 16:02:13 UTC No. 918030
>>917914
Do you have any updates, Cris?
I'm looking forward to your progress.
Anonymous at Wed, 14 Sep 2022 17:47:25 UTC No. 918047
>>918030
Honestly, I think the face and eyes got something right, so it shows the path is right for a proper exploration of the method.
Sure, it needs fixing, but such an early attemp was sucesful.
The side bangs, sure, they are fine.
What it totally failed was the front hair strands.
Seems the front hair bangs suffer from the same issues of the eyes.
They can't be faked with 3D, so I assume a card system can get them right.
Also sidebangs in the face would maybe need a similar system, and using some combination of hand crafted movements and likely some rigged ones.
Will make another test with these new ideas.
Anonymous at Wed, 14 Sep 2022 17:49:14 UTC No. 918048
>>917615
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