🧵 YOU ARE IRRELEVANT
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Sep 2022 18:17:53 UTC No. 919625
How does knowing that you will be made irrelevant by a consumer GPU in the next 5 years make you feel?
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2022/
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:35:51 UTC No. 919644
show wires
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Sep 2022 21:51:25 UTC No. 919657
>>919625
Makes my job easier
Anonymous at Sun, 25 Sep 2022 22:12:39 UTC No. 919659
>>919657
>implying you will have a job
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 01:20:00 UTC No. 919677
>>919625
you will never be an artist
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 01:22:50 UTC No. 919679
>>919677
My son can be a an artist with some crayons and cardboard, the only difference is that in 5 years you will be homeless because your job got deprecated by a consumer level gaming graphics card.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 01:27:35 UTC No. 919680
>>919679
you have no understanding of what art is, troll idiot
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 01:50:52 UTC No. 919682
>>919680
Please explain what art is and why machines are incapable of it.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 01:55:23 UTC No. 919683
>>919682
art is when you put extended effort, working at maximum, over a period of time to produce something you are proud of. Writing a sentence into a warehouse of connected gpus and having it dumbly photoshop stitch pre-prepared "databases" together while you do nothing is never art.
Deal with it, you will never be an artist. You are just hella thirty for some kind of dumbly photoshop stitched frankensteined results while not taking time to grind fundamentals.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 02:37:37 UTC No. 919687
>>919677
Jews own the economy and the media and they don't care about real art, moron. That's why this sucks.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 17:48:51 UTC No. 919788
>>919683
Ah, sorry, didn't know we get to redefine words according to our mental gymanstics and that art means whatever you want it to mean.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 17:51:11 UTC No. 919789
>>919683
>you will never be an artist
And i never claimed to be one, thats the funniest part, me, a person that never studied arts, can replace you, a person that has tens of years of "training", with 200 dollars GPU that can outproduce you 1000 to 1.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 19:21:14 UTC No. 919798
Seriously, fuck this IA shit. It will devalue art and turn humans into morons with no incentive to learn anything because IA will do everything for us.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 19:26:59 UTC No. 919800
>>919798
>Seriously, fuck this [INSERT LABOR THAT GOT DEPRECATED BY TECHNOLOGY] shit. It will devalue [LABOR THAT GOT DEPRECATED BY TECHNOLOGY] and turn humans into morons with no incentive to learn anything because IA will do everything for us.
Story as old as time.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 20:21:33 UTC No. 919804
>>919786
How long did it last for cars to actually become good and replace horses? Two decades? I think 3D artists will be fine.
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 20:40:13 UTC No. 919805
>>919798
Yes! Fuck this Irtificial Antelligence!
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 20:49:27 UTC No. 919807
No soul
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 21:11:23 UTC No. 919810
>>919804
>he doesn't know that AI advancement is exponential not incremental
OH NO NO NO NO
Anonymous at Mon, 26 Sep 2022 21:12:39 UTC No. 919812
>>919804
>attempts to add nuance in a desperate goalpost moving post in response to a post with no nuance
Sad.
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Sep 2022 00:01:21 UTC No. 919828
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Sep 2022 01:36:26 UTC No. 919830
>>919789
your GPU depends on the works of other people who put in real effort and grinded the fundamentals. Your AI is dumb as fuck
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Sep 2022 03:45:48 UTC No. 919837
>>919625
except for when they need high polygon count h0rs3 furry porn esque futa wolf models
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Sep 2022 05:31:29 UTC No. 919848
>>919798
95% of the world population are already a morons who learn nothing. If you are a moron who learns nothing, AI won't change it. People who like to learn like to learn no matter what, simple as.
Anonymous at Tue, 27 Sep 2022 09:34:20 UTC No. 919856
I'm fine with it. I do 3d as a hobby not to make money. I like the process of creating something from scratch. That's why I do my own designs as well and don't use someone else's concept art like a soulless machine
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Sep 2022 06:56:10 UTC No. 920262
>>919625
>How does knowing that you will be made irrelevant by a consumer GPU in the next 5 years make you feel?
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/88
We are entering a dangerous time.
>by a consumer GPU
if you think about it 3D is easier to understand then fucking around with stupid 2D shit that is camera angel etc.
This way the AI understands exactly how a object looks.
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Sep 2022 07:10:55 UTC No. 920265
>>919789
1)Eventually AI will be able to generate every picture equal to the best "Artist"
2) "Art" is not a real thing
3) See >>920262
>And i never claimed to be one, thats the funniest part, me, a person that never studied arts, can replace you, a person that has tens of years of "training", with 200 dollars GPU that can outproduce you 1000 to 1.
Reading this wants me to kill talentless cancers on humanity like you. You literally are the enemy of humanity.
>Hur dur I press a button and get art
>Hur dur I write words and get art
Ignoring the social implications of this.
Do you really think that your corporate overlords will let you have this AI ?
No you get a website to cloud compute where you type in words, and your corporate overlords can censor or remove this functionality for you.
>Pay subscription of $5000 day
You see how you will be treated; you are never getting a magic program that lets you generate pictures. You will get a retarded cloud shit that will be taken away from you by its owners.
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Sep 2022 18:57:05 UTC No. 920370
>>920265
>Do you really think that your corporate overlords will let you have this AI ?
LMAO, you are seething so hard.
The fact that you don't even KNOW that free and open source AI models that can be run locally by low end GPUs already exist already explains your entire opinion about anything, this technology will rape all your kind, you know nothing about anything.
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Sep 2022 18:58:28 UTC No. 920371
>>920284
See >>919786
The entire "things have been like that so things will continuing being like that forever" argument has to be the biggest tell as to when someone has below room temperature IQ.
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Sep 2022 20:32:23 UTC No. 920377
>>920370
>Muh open source AI
And I'm sure they will be exactly like the payed ones.
OH wait. The open source community is playing catch up to MS Office with a 15 year lag.
Tell me about the open source digital assistant. A real one not the fake one. OH LOOK ! You literally have nothing !
>b-b-b- my croft
Is literally fake it connects to a server that does all of that and you are not getting that code.
>this technology will rape all your kind, you know nothing about anything.
Nice antagonism no skill trash.
Its like watching idiocy on ultra steroids with you.
>Oh boy I'm so glad we will all depend on machines to do our art for us and have no skill.
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Sep 2022 20:58:09 UTC No. 920379
>>920377
Too long, didn't read your seething blogpost.
Just admit that you don't know what you are talking about and you are scared because a GPU will take your job.
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Sep 2022 21:59:04 UTC No. 920388
Posted this in another "AI will replace you" thread, and posting it here since it's relevant.
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AI is a tool, plain and simple.
Construction workers don't suddenly fear for their job because a new power tool comes out. It simply lets them build something better, faster, and more efficiently.
Sure, any jagoff can use a hammer to drive a nail, and that nail might "get the job done" when it comes to sticking 2 things together and nothing more, but a hammer in the hands of someone capable can do more than just stick 2 boards together.
AI is the same case. 2d, or 3d. Use 2d to generate concepts and iterations faster, and if a 3d AI ever comes about that's actually capable, use that to fill out your scene with 10x more detail than you could have ever done if you had done it by hand. Bonus points if you actually plug in your own concepts (like a thumbnail sketch, or rough blockout) into 2d img2img to flesh it out even more.
AI isn't a shortcut, and it should never be the end result. If you use it in a workflow, it should be used like a creativity multiplier. Just like when you have a beefier GPU you throw bigger scenes and render resolutions at it, with AI you should use it to do more work than you ever could have alone. 2d+3d AI can turn you from a single dude slaving away bit by bit to an entire creative team.
AI is only going to "take yer damn jerbs" if you never had the creative drive to leverage it properly in the first place. And in all honesty, if you couldn't, you probably didn't have a job to take to begin with.
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Sep 2022 22:05:22 UTC No. 920390
I would definitely love an integrated AI in substance for creating good base materials, grunge maps and things like that. And it would be cool if it was like a procedural node in SD. I'm sure it will come at some point.
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Sep 2022 22:30:39 UTC No. 920393
>>920388
>Construction workers don't suddenly fear for their job because a new power tool comes out.
>compares artificial intelligence to a power tool
Stopped reading right there, holy fuck the cope is hilarious.
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Sep 2022 22:33:04 UTC No. 920394
>>920390
Its already on the works definitely, its the immediate future of all modeling software/game engines.
What we've seen so far are literally the first baby steps of AI capabilities.
https://old.reddit.com/r/StableDiff
Anonymous at Fri, 30 Sep 2022 22:55:17 UTC No. 920397
>another AI shill spam thread where pajeets don't actually show an AI giving people what they want
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Oct 2022 04:18:46 UTC No. 920424
Fine.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Oct 2022 04:44:35 UTC No. 920425
>>920393
Then you missed the point that there's nothing to cope about. AI is fucking cool.
Having an AI that generates 3d objects should supercharge 3d creation, not replace it. When AI like this comes out and is decent, if people aren't filling their scenes to the brim with readily accessible detail, they never deserved to keep their job in the first place. Just like how you throw more at a computer the more powerful it gets.
It's not cope, it's the perspective that 90% of people are missing about AI generation. It's a force multiplier just like any other tool used to do work. It makes your job easier and faster so you can do more than you could in the same time.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Oct 2022 06:56:02 UTC No. 920430
>>919625
AI has been here for so long and yet hasn't replaced a single artist so keep seething talentless retard, nobody is taking the bait anymore
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Oct 2022 11:24:57 UTC No. 920446
>>920393
>>compares artificial intelligence to a power tool
there is no "intelligence" in this, just brute force. You are backed into a corner. You suck at this.
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Oct 2022 13:01:55 UTC No. 920451
>>920430
>AI has been here for so long
it hasn't
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Oct 2022 17:52:07 UTC No. 920480
>>920425
This. Once this is perfected you can generate all the boring generic fill in stuff and spend all your time perfecting your hero-pieces doing real art.
The dystopian aspect of it is how you will become irrelevant as a novice artist and have no ability to work since nothing you produce will have meaning until you're already highly skilled.
Nobody who don't have a patron willing to invest in their artistic pursuit will be able to spend their time learning art and also provide for themselves in the very near future.
This is just a taste of the future for majority of humans within the scope of our lifetime as technology makes more and more of us irrelevant by the year.
Advances in algorithms and robotics means if you are operating machinery, pushing papers, administrating systems etc you're likely obsolete before the end of this decade.
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Oct 2022 14:11:07 UTC No. 920783
>>919659
>implying that most desk jobs aren't people bullshitting while the computer does shit for you
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Oct 2022 15:14:39 UTC No. 920791
is there a stable diffusion that doesn't require me to install millions of things
one click install please
Anonymous at Mon, 3 Oct 2022 16:07:12 UTC No. 920793
Joke's on you; I'm already irrelevant.
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Oct 2022 05:40:48 UTC No. 920865
>>920791
Yes.
Literally the same one that's been floating around. Automatic's is a good one.
https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/st
Install Git and Python,making sure you click the option to "Add to PATH" when installing both (this part's important so make sure to look out for those options), and then just click the run button on SD (webui.bat). It'll install all the dependencies for you. Though you need to grab a model to use as well, but those are linked in just about every image gen general on 4chan.
After it's all said and done, just run the webui.bat any time you want to use it, and open the page it tells you to connect to in your browser.
It's not quite retard proof, but if you can do 3d, you should have the basic knowledge to follow a step by step instruction that's all of 3 steps. You don't need to input a single command.
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Oct 2022 16:46:53 UTC No. 920918
>>920793
As 99% "artists" are, but telling it to their face makes them angry and the mental gymnastics they do to copethat machines will never replace THE SOUL OF ART is fucking hilarious.
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Oct 2022 20:08:49 UTC No. 920936
I don't care, I make stuff for myself, no intention of making a career out of it.
Anonymous at Tue, 4 Oct 2022 23:26:57 UTC No. 920956
>>920371
ai is not replacing shit yet, it's still in the phase of just shifting workloads, you will have a good 10+ years before ai fully replaces an artist, and even then, you will still need art directors/people with a vision for a project.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Oct 2022 00:30:21 UTC No. 920961
>>920956
LMAO, holy fucking cope.
AI can churn out literally THOUSANDS of works in minutes, a single GPU is capable to replace 1000000 "artists", you won't be a "art director" on your communist revolution utopia, dumbass.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Oct 2022 01:23:47 UTC No. 920966
>>920961
>it's still in the phase of just shifting workloads
are you unable to read or are you too fucking stupid to know what that means?
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Oct 2022 16:42:05 UTC No. 921194
>>919659
When the automatic teller machine happened, what happened to tellers?
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Oct 2022 06:59:04 UTC No. 921295
>>921194
Pretty sure people still work at the bank, despite ATMs existing.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Oct 2022 07:06:03 UTC No. 921296
>>921295
Pretty sure people still sell horses, despite the car existing.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Oct 2022 07:07:53 UTC No. 921297
>>921296
Pretty sure people still carry cash, despite cards existing.
I'm gonna be honest, I probably misinterpreted the meaning of the original comment.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Oct 2022 07:35:28 UTC No. 921299
>>921297
Pretty sure they still make swords, despite guns existing.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Oct 2022 09:20:38 UTC No. 921310
>>919679
You will never be an artist.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Oct 2022 15:50:39 UTC No. 921574
>>920388
>Construction workers don't suddenly fear for their job because a new power tool comes out. It simply lets them build something better, faster, and more efficiently.
AI isn't a power tool. It's a button that builds the entire building automatically.
>AI isn't a shortcut, and it should never be the end result. If you use it in a workflow, it should be used like a creativity multiplier.
Cool, the job market doesn't give a shit. Good enough and cheap is better than high quality but expensive.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Oct 2022 18:50:24 UTC No. 921599
>>921574
>can only render static, front facing, single character neutral poses with non-specific expressions and hides hands, needs to trace a 3d model otherwise and even then is failing to capture the depth and perspective properly
So far it's only automated the easiest type of kitbash possible. It isn't making buildings, it's making a carboard standee. So long as you don't try to go into it or look at it from a different angle sure, you have yourself a "building." I'm sure big corporations will go however lazy NEETs insist and spend no money to make an incomplete product no one wants to buy.
Anonymous at Mon, 10 Oct 2022 22:04:44 UTC No. 921617
>>921574
>AI isn't a power tool. It's a button that builds the entire building automatically.
Except that it is. And it doesn't. Unless you think an empty facade is a building.
>Cool, the job market doesn't give a shit. Good enough and cheap is better than high quality but expensive.
It might not give a shit in the short term. But people will inevitably get fed up with "adequate" cheap shit. Just like you have people shitting on fast food and eating healthy. There's plenty of people that will and still go for it, but you have just the same amount against it. There's room for both to coexist.
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Oct 2022 06:35:19 UTC No. 921669
>>921617
>There's room for both to coexist.
This should be the thread ending post for all AI discussions really.
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Oct 2022 06:41:36 UTC No. 921670
>>921669
Both WILL coexist, but 99% of artists will be deprecated.
A consumer GPU can output in 10 minutes what an artist can in 10 weeks.
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Oct 2022 06:58:26 UTC No. 921672
>>921670
You assume all art/any possible art market is solely for highly-rendered portraits and landscapes. AI art can't do dynamic poses or multiple characters and struggles consistency with art styles. For it to generate these things it would require automation of both 3D and 2D at the same time, which would basically mean the whole world can make Guilty Gear animations on prompts. We are not anywhere close to that, and even then it just means that seasoned artists will be able to execute their long-conceptualized passion projects directly. Artists will have a direct media monopoly. No more worrying about what Disney will do when someone with vision can actualize their idea flawlessly and immediately.
Even in your gleeful doomer scenario it's exciting for me, I've been getting richer despite the global depression and in say 10 years I can make entire movies while all the lazy zoomers struggle with basic character design and story structure? Fuck yeah.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Oct 2022 09:27:46 UTC No. 922198
>>920865
I have followed all the tutorials, but still no dice. I even installed Torch and Torchvision outside of the webui.bat. But once I open Webui.bat it just says "installing Torch and torchvision". I have left that on for 8 hours and no change. Any advice at this point?
PS, I have updated python, pip, etc
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Oct 2022 16:50:59 UTC No. 922217
>>922212
This reaks of small penis energy
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Oct 2022 17:28:20 UTC No. 922219
>>922212
>>922212
I don't get the pic related
None of the people in the bottom row are "action stars", they're just "stars" who portray fictional characters which have a similar appearance.
Scott Adkins can be qualified as a modern day action star and he fits the top mold perfectly. Same goes for The Rock or Jason Statham.
Boomer memes are the absolute worse.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:16:06 UTC No. 922232
>919682
>Please explain what art is and why machines are incapable of it.
Art is an expression of one's personal experience filtered through the lens of technique. Art is inherently a human expression, requiring humanity to have the life experience needed to shape one's sensibilities, which is something none of the ML algos can have. It totally makes sense that a clueless trolling retard like you would miss out on this point, just like you missed on said life experiences. Same goes for clueless tech bros who think art is the superficial part of artworks.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Oct 2022 20:37:15 UTC No. 922233
>>922212
>it will replace soulless "artists".
So, 99% of artists.
Anonymous at Sun, 16 Oct 2022 21:09:10 UTC No. 922239
What do you guys think of 3D artists who exlusively copy concept art? Would you consider that "art"? (I wouldn't). And that kind of work often gets 1000s of likes on artstation, they are trending atm as well. No originality to be seen anywhere, only technical proficiency. I wonder if that kind of 3D artist will become replaced quicker.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Oct 2022 00:44:18 UTC No. 922248
>>922198
Don't know what to tell ya.
"mine worked" is kind of a shit thing to say, but that's how it was. I'm just as retarded about the shit as you, I wouldn't really know how to solve a problem if it popped up. The WebUI installed everything it needed into the directory it was in (no need to install Torch or anything externally except Python and Git). Try running it NOT as an admin if you've been doing it as one, I know for a fact that fucks it up for some reason. Apart from that, I don't know.
>>922239
I think there's "art" in terms of the originality and knowledge to put something like that together, but more leaning towards craftsmanship than pure art. Things like laying out extremely clean geometry, or unwrapping something perfectly using every last bit of texture space possible, or a complex rigging setup that's boiled down to a simple solution that "just works", shit like that has notes of "art" in them since it requires that same kind of creative thinking to arrive at a solution. I think AI can come close to 90% of what normal people are capable of, but it will fundamentally lack those "oh wow, that's really clever" moments for a good while.
Again, a lot of that stuff is still "craft" rather than art, but there's more of a fuzzy difference between the two rather than a hard distinction. For what it's worth, I'm quite interested in where AI will take the creative field, and I don't really have a problem with it. It's up to the artist to still think creatively in how they use it.