🗑️ 🧵 /3/ Minimum Viable Product
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Nov 2022 06:55:56 UTC No. 926508
As a /3/d artist, what would be the easiest shippable game I could make as a solo dev? I can code/design, but my main strength is in visuals. Is there something I can make that's more fun than a walking sim?
I'm not a character artist so it can't be porn.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Nov 2022 08:59:38 UTC No. 926514
the main idea behind dev is that you (re-) create what you yourself enjoy - so what is the fucking point of asking others what that is? video games generally went to shit because companies became large enough for soulless, corporate psychopaths to make the decisions instead of dreamy idealistic programmers. bobby kotic for instance used to work at coca cola before gutting out a video company that used to be known for delivering quality and turned it into a ingame-trading money machine.
now you're telling me you have that same psychopath mindset ("do what sells, not what fascinates you") AND no team? wow how i can't wait to play that! the joke is on you, because selling garbage to 15-year-olds only works due to massive marketing (including buying magazines reviews), and you don't have that.
oh also le scary horror slenderman clone #1733 i guess.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Nov 2022 18:17:28 UTC No. 926559
>>926514
You sound salty, anon. I'm not trying to make the next Call of Duty and fill it with predatory monetization tactics, I'm literally just brainstorming for fun game ideas a solo dev could make.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Nov 2022 19:02:49 UTC No. 926560
>>926559
ngmi
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Nov 2022 20:19:55 UTC No. 926566
>>926560
pyw
oh wait, you don't have any lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Nov 2022 21:21:26 UTC No. 926570
Generic retro doom/quake clones.
A new one releases almost every week and every single one of them will shift a thousand or so sales thanks a to a cottage industry of dedicated youtubers who will cover every release in the genre.
Anonymous at Sat, 19 Nov 2022 22:49:19 UTC No. 926580
>>926570
Sadly I'm a first worlder, so I would need to make a decent amount of sales just to live.
Assuming a price point of $15 (which seems about average for indies), and personal expenses of 50k/yr, and being incredibly optimistic by saying that after licenses, Steam's cut, hiring contractors for stuff I can't do myself, and other operating expenses I get to take home 50% of my total sales, I'd still need to sell 7000 units to recoup one year of solo development. If we double that to be more realistic, that's 15k units. And that's only for one year - I want to release a reasonably polished and complete game, which likely means multiple years of development.
30-50k sales is pretty far from the 1 mil+ units top indie games are able to sell nowadays, but it still seems like an extremely tough target to hit, and definitely not something you'd have an easy time getting in certain niche genres, even with a very good game.
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Nov 2022 00:10:32 UTC No. 926591
Fuck the numbers man . You will buy a huge bag of rice , a couple tubs of Gfuel , a foam roller , and a closet sized bedroom to rent. and then set sail and make the best you got, sink or swim
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Nov 2022 08:55:18 UTC No. 926614
>>926559
>I'm literally just brainstorming for fun game ideas
intuition says "no, this guy is full of crap and only after money, but hey let's give him the benefit of the doubt and continue reading"
>>926580
>literally NOT A SINGLE WORD about what games, movies or other forms of art fascinate him
>instead terms such as "price point" and calculations about how many copies need to be sold
>needs 50.000$ a year to survive as a solo dev
luckily people like you never make it. you are the cancer that has ruined video games, and i genuinely hope the following for you:
may you find advice for a semi-scam (game only made with money in mind but marketed as artistic indie effort) that gets you to invest years of your life into such a project, then end up not finishing it or having someone steal "your" idea.
you know, you could have just been honest and went: "yeah I'm a soulless drone that just wants to milk the fact that retarded teens will buy 2 dozen games per steam sale and only play 2 of them ever", but instead you accuse first, only to give proof of the accusation one post later.
good luck with your game, anon.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 20 Nov 2022 16:03:44 UTC No. 926650
>>926591
>a couple tubs of Gfuel
with all of the adhd inducing artificial coloring in that i don't think you'll be doing much except bouncing between dopamine triggers on the internet. if you want an energy drink that's not full of crazy shit, get rockstar x-durance.
Anonymous at Sun, 20 Nov 2022 22:51:23 UTC No. 926694
>>926614
this nigga so mad lmaooo
op the best mvp is those dogshit 3d ball rolling games on iOS that can spam ads
he do got a point tho u should focus on trying to make something cool, useful, or interesting. trying to focus on money in this industry is a bad idea
Anonymous at Tue, 22 Nov 2022 14:21:28 UTC No. 926905
>>926508
just make mobile games with ads
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Nov 2022 04:46:06 UTC No. 927047
>>926508
Just go make a game. That's all there is to it.
Anonymous at Wed, 23 Nov 2022 04:59:27 UTC No. 927050
>>926694
>3d ball rolling games on iOS
>>926905
>mobile games with ads
That's the thing though, I wanna make a genuinely good game (thus why I said "more fun than a walking sim" as a criteria in the OP). There's plenty of game genres I enjoy but aren't realistic targets for a solo dev, and there's plenty of other genres that would be easy to break into (like MTX-riddled basic puzzle games for mobile) that I don't vibe with because they're the antithesis of fun.
I feel like the challenge is discovering the sweet spot of games that's feasibly attainable by a solo dev, but also fun to play and have an audience.
>>926614
What a dumb fucking post
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 13:15:09 UTC No. 927294
>>927050
> still not a single fucking word about what fascinates him, but yet more abstract babble about feasibility
dreamers, people with ambitions, don't theorize about feasibility. the only people that do are soulless megacorp zombies and losers that wish they could become them.
you can't fool me: if it was about "fun", you'd do what is fun - but you're not after fun, you're after what will realistically make a profit.
you are a jew. you are cancer.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 16:46:44 UTC No. 927313
>>927294
Seek mental help.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 16:58:29 UTC No. 927314
>>927313
i just did - telling people with nonexistent moral standards how shitty they are is the greatest thing one can do for one's own psyche, as great fears and insecurities stem from not having faced them when they were little.
fuck niggers such as OP and yourself. art is not a business and trying to turn it into one means you are without conscience.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 17:07:46 UTC No. 927316
>>927314
your meds
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 17:21:00 UTC No. 927317
>>927316
exactly, telling niggers the truth is my medicine. well said.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 17:33:28 UTC No. 927319
>>927317
>niggers
You aren't white yourself lmao
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 17:40:49 UTC No. 927320
>>927319
see, that's where you lost the plot and revealed that your only intention is to attempt to hurt (randomly flinging shit at the wall, really), not to make a point.
it's always the same with you non-people:
first you attack actual humans by shitting on anything civilized.
then, when rightfully told how pathetic you are, you ignore all arguments being made and desperately throw the same, tired ad hominems at your opponent.
once the discussion has arrived at a point where you essentially communicate like a 5-year-old from the bronx, you declare yourself victorious even though your behavior is proof that you have lost.
every time.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 18:29:40 UTC No. 927323
>>927320
didn't read your wall of cope as you aren't white
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 18:44:28 UTC No. 927325
>>927323
>declares me insane, i should take my meds
>tell him yelling "nigger" is the medicine
>he immediately starts yelling nigger, aka he is convinced he needs the meds
solid selfown there
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 18:48:33 UTC No. 927327
>>927325
still not white, rajeesh
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 18:51:56 UTC No. 927328
>>927327
you are correct, I am Indian. my name is prakanth and I am from bangalore - which now means you are incapable of winning an online argument against a smelly fucking indian. how embarrassing.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 19:05:03 UTC No. 927329
>>927328
good morning sir
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 19:05:52 UTC No. 927330
>>927329
didn't read, not white.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 19:49:55 UTC No. 927334
>>927313
>>927314
>>927316
>>927317
>>927319
>>927320
>>927323
>>927325
>>927327
>>927328
>>927329
>>927330
Neither of you are the OP, because I'm the OP.
Why the fuck are the two of you shitting up a random /3/ thread with your random ass fight? Seriously. What the fuck are you two doing?
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 20:02:59 UTC No. 927339
>>927334
I unironically only did this to shit on you and your pathetic little "I'll be a solo gamedev" -powergrab and make constructive dialog impossible. fuck you and everything you stand for.
Anonymous at Fri, 25 Nov 2022 21:22:31 UTC No. 927345