Anonymous at Tue, 7 Feb 2023 20:55:48 UTC No. 936283

>>936282
Cuz we all specifically hate you and only you.

Anonymous at Tue, 7 Feb 2023 21:11:06 UTC No. 936286

You now remember when Daniel had 50+ videos

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Feb 2023 13:40:53 UTC No. 936339

I made a few threads, didn't check but they might still be alive.
Yeah it's the least talked of all the "famous softwares". I learned it but came to hate it cause of shitty computer so now I'm studying drapery and folds to make my clothes in Zbrush.
I also hate the fact that the documentation/available resources are so hidden or non-existent. Like is there even a guide somewhere on the fabric presets and what cloth they're supposed to represent. Except from the obvious one, how am I supposed to know what a "Dynamic Hard 5.2" fabric is supposed to look like IRL...

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Feb 2023 14:18:11 UTC No. 936341

>>936282
I really wish they had a Linux version.

Anonymous at Wed, 8 Feb 2023 16:12:41 UTC No. 936348

>>936282
because the basics can be learned in an afternoon and most of the things beyond that are trial-and-error and experience.

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Feb 2023 01:52:52 UTC No. 936398

>>936348
The devil is in the details. As evidenced by Daniel's many many deleted videos there are a huge number of pitfalls for every garment

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Feb 2023 12:19:29 UTC No. 936433

>>936398
none of what you said contradicts my post, so why not just stay silent?

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Feb 2023 14:36:38 UTC No. 936443

>>936433
because what you said was ridiculous. You can learn the basics of _almost anything_ in an afternoon, but that wont make you into a professional, especially when you are competing against other people in a field where the final result goes up onto a 100 foot plus screen where every detail screams out.

Why dont you just stay silent, puto?

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Feb 2023 17:39:05 UTC No. 936463

>>936443
>You can learn the basics of _almost anything_ in an afternoon,
no you can't. when it comes to 3dcg, marvelous is pretty much the fastest to learn. stop posting, retard.

Anonymous at Thu, 9 Feb 2023 18:09:06 UTC No. 936466

>>936463
yes you can, cabron. nobody and i mean nobody cares about the bare basics of a thing in this thread. You sound like you have mental problems

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:35:59 UTC No. 936568

>>936282
Remeshing those things can be a royal pain in the ass.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Feb 2023 08:05:46 UTC No. 936824

>>936443
>>936466
This guy >>936463 is completely right.
Marvelous is an incredibly simple software to use. It has to be, since it's also just a renamed version of Clo3D, which is the exact same software (I'm talking 1 to 1 exact) but marketed to fashion designers and students (you know, people who aren't known for being adept 3d modellers).
Because of that, MD/Clo has to be downright SIMPLE to use; and it is. You can pick up 80% of what you need to know about using the software in the first day of using it. The remaining 20% is just quirks of the program, which you'd learn in the first week or so.

Once you pick the basics up of how to use the program though, you're still up shit's creek if you know fuck all about how clothes are ACTUALLY made. Someone who's been making clothes all their life could make something technically superior in their first day of using the software compared to someone who knows it inside and out but knows little about garment design.
The best course/class/tutorial you could ever take for MD is an actual sewing class where you physically make garments. There's significant overlap between the two and they go hand in hand.
Barring that, just try searching for things with "Clo3D" instead of Marvelous and you're likely to find more information. It might not be extremely technical shit about the software, but it'd definitely be by people who know a thing or two about making actual clothes.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 01:47:13 UTC No. 936890

>>936824
making clothes in marvelous is very hard, and to prove this you only have to look at daniels (deleted) toots. Anyone can make a t-shirt in it, but almost no one can make real good shit. What you are saying is that you can learn the basics in a day. Well, I can learn the basics of football in one day as well, but that doesnt make me Messi

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 01:53:13 UTC No. 936893

Daniel this daniel that. Just fuckin leak em already.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:08:19 UTC No. 936912

>>936890
Making clothes in MD is "very hard" because you don't know how to make clothes. At all.
The reason you can't make "real good shit", is because, guess what, you don't know how "real good shit" is made in real life.
There's nothing to MD but the tools presented, which are the basics. Just like cutting fabric and sewing them together is the basics of garment design. If you don't know what the fuck you're doing, you don't know what the fuck you're doing. No amount of technical knowledge or tricks will get around not knowing how to make a garment.
The reason you can grab actual fucking sewing patterns for actual clothes and have them work just fine in MD, is because MD is as close to doing it irl as it possibly could be. It's specialized for exactly that.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 08:47:14 UTC No. 936915

>>936912
Daniels tuts have hundreds of steps per video. Making clothes is difficult. People have to go to school literally for years to learn how to sew properly and then they often join guilds. The knowledge is so coveted that daniel, gets paid big bucks to do only this and has to take down his best videos. In short, you dont know what you are talking about and are just trying to make others keep quiet - and failing

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 10:59:58 UTC No. 936923

Can someone confirm you can infinitely use the free 30-day trial with just an email each month on the same PC? Without credit card, phone numbers, etc.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 12:59:27 UTC No. 936931

>>936893
I swear. I'm still waiting for a hero to just upload all the Daniel's shit if it's even one someone's HDD somewhere.
But at least stop complaining about something everyone is aware of

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 19:01:01 UTC No. 936971

>>936824
Very much agreed. Technical knowledge only gets you so far in Marvelous. That's exactly why its such powerful software - you actually need to be knowledgeable in how clothes are made to use it.
I think many technical minded people approach this software in the wrong way and end up at a disadvantage, funnily enough.

Anonymous at Tue, 14 Feb 2023 22:35:50 UTC No. 936982

>>936915
>People have to go to school literally for years to learn how to sew properly and then they often join guilds.
Exactly my point. I'm glad you finally fucking got it.
The program is extremely easy to pick up, and you can wrap your head around all the functions in a day, but to actually make good shit you have to know how to make clothes. I've been saying this the whole time.
In short, you're a fucking retard with zero reading comprehension.

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Feb 2023 03:04:15 UTC No. 937008

Lowest value on the avatar's skin still gives a noticeable offset even on high poly patterns
Any tricks besides editing the mesh?

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Feb 2023 11:19:06 UTC No. 937042

Yeah yeah whatever, wake me up when someone post a link to Daniel's old videos. Still can't believe it's still not out there...

Anonymous at Wed, 15 Feb 2023 16:32:56 UTC No. 937084

>>937008
Since it's based on real life units, scale the model x10 (and lower particle density by 10)
You're going to get some different wrinkling patterns, but imo they look even better and a few pro marvelous users always work at x10 scale or so because of the more naturalistic wrinkling that you get

btw daniel's videos were grossly overrated
his fundamentals series were great but then again it's just the same as learning the basics of traditional sewing

Anonymous at Fri, 10 Mar 2023 09:02:50 UTC No. 939502

Time to vent, I had to pick it up for my current job and it's a brutally annoying program. I have garment design experience so that part isn't an issue but on the software side it's infuriatingly clunky to use in terms of things like collisions and folds, crashes incessantly when simulating entire outfits with a low particle distance and the worst part is clo nuked their entire user forum so besides the minimal documentation there's few ways to diagnose and rectify obscure issues that often come up. Unfortunately there's no comparable alternative so I'm stuck with it

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 10:35:05 UTC No. 940132

>>936824
>>936971
>>936982
Damn, this is depressing...
I'm a programmer and I was planning on using MD eventually to make clothes for my hobby gamedev game.
I'm never going to make it.

Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:49:59 UTC No. 940168

>>940132
check out udraper for unreal engine, seems like it could be a decent alternative if you're doing simpler stuff

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Mar 2023 12:26:12 UTC No. 941352

I've got a question about marvelous designer, why doesn't anything I sew onto internal lines sew tight? It always "hangs by the threads"

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Mar 2023 18:31:18 UTC No. 941390

At $280 / year, is it worth it

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Mar 2023 21:12:25 UTC No. 941399

>>940132
If it's simple clothes like shirts and suits and shit, MD has a built in designer that lets you piece together those things from premade patterns that come with the program. I'd look into that.
Nobody really needs to reinvent the wheel every time they're making a simple t-shirt.

>>941390
Really depends on how much you're going to use it.
1 or 2 projects without income? Nah, pirate that shit.
1 or 2 projects, with income? Make the client pay for it, assuming they're not cheapos. If not, pirate.
All the time, but you're not making money from it? I'd still pirate.
All the time, but you're getting paid? Make the client pay for it.

Anonymous at Tue, 28 Mar 2023 21:35:43 UTC No. 941400

>>941399
>1 or 2 projects without income? Nah, pirate that shit.
I wont pirate.

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Mar 2023 06:03:00 UTC No. 941431

>>936286
Is anyone going to post an archive or what?

Anonymous at Wed, 29 Mar 2023 09:44:25 UTC No. 941439

>>941400
Then no, it's obviously not worth it. There's better things to spend $300 on.

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Apr 2023 22:59:34 UTC No. 944199

>GPU simulation doesn't give a shit about layers
>CPU simulation doesn't give a shit about pressure

And here I thought after all the outfits i made making a bed comforter would be a piece of cake
Any tutorial including official ones work somehow, i do the same shit and it doesn't

Anonymous at Tue, 25 Apr 2023 23:11:51 UTC No. 944200

>>944199
skill issue

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Apr 2023 05:22:10 UTC No. 944230

>>936282
MD doesn't seem to be that good since the outputs are shit for dynamics outside MD, aka anything more complex than a catwalk, artists always complain when asked for water tight geo or single sided clean proxies not that densely triangulated mess.
Respect to you if you're actually optimizing your own work, but MD artists needs to fuck off from studio pipelines they have no liability and always try to get a modeler monkey to do the dirty job for them.

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Apr 2023 05:23:17 UTC No. 944231

>>941390
No

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Apr 2023 05:25:55 UTC No. 944232

>>940132
do box model + sculpt, there's not reason at all to use MD it's an expensive glorified CAD toy

Anonymous at Wed, 26 Apr 2023 05:28:14 UTC No. 944233

>>936568
I still don't understand why they have not addressed this, it's used enough in CG studios to merit a proper remesher and proxy creation without doing bullshit in an external software

Anonymous at Sat, 27 May 2023 22:18:32 UTC No. 946891

>>936282
Usually game devs use it

Anonymous at Sun, 28 May 2023 04:45:13 UTC No. 946923

>>946891
You've bumped a thread with its last reply over a month ago and added nothing of value. The discussion was already over and OP has left the building.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 May 2023 15:10:58 UTC No. 946985

>>946923
>>946923
I'm still here but yeah this guys has been bumping the two threads I made about clothing in CG...
I won't complain, I still need help with that shit.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 May 2023 16:04:08 UTC No. 946993

>>946985
You shouldn't take the ngmis in this thread too seriously just because they've been filtered by Marvelous. Yes, you need some basic insight into how real clothes are made but you don't need to be an expert. One of the things Daniel would often point out is that it actually doesn't translate 1-to-1 to real world sewing, especially things like darts. There's lots of cosplay blogs and stuff with irl sewing patterns that you can reference (or even straight up trace) but you still need to know the software and good practice and what you want the finished result for e.g. whether to not to bother with full thickness or if just rims will do, and whether to do that stuff in Marvelous or your modelling/ animation software.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 May 2023 16:34:33 UTC No. 946995

>>946993
Yeah but what I hate about the software (or maybe it comes from the company or the community), it's how simple and straight forward MD/Clo3d is but it's lacking resources when you're beyond the basics.
I watched a video of Daniel where he said exactly what you're saying and he illustrated his example with a particular garment. But what about the others, how does it translate to a blouse, a long coat or whatever?
Software is cool and quick to learn. But I (personally find it to be anightmare to work with (when you want to make actual nice looking clothes).

For example, I've been trying to make a gakuran (male student uniform in Japan). No matter what I try, I never managed to make it look good enough) and I have no idea why. And i got tired of it, so now I'm making my whole clothes direclty in Zbrush. Didn't gave up on MD cause I gueninely enjoy using it but I hate the die/retry methodology it's making me use.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 May 2023 19:53:22 UTC No. 947009

>>946995
I think the main thing is to just up res the cloth beyond what a lot of the introduction vids suggest and worry about poly count later. Your pic looks low poly. The material presets are also very important.
I found inflation very useful too because volume preservation is everything and it can reset wrinkles. Pockets and how they do or don't bend is a whole minefield and personally I wouldn't worry about them until main shapes are in the ballpark. Try to get seams, collars, cuffs etc.. cut in to the model too and this will help up the poly resolution.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 May 2023 20:11:23 UTC No. 947010

>>947009
>>947009
Yeah something, I didn't say is that my toaster computer prevents me from adding more patterns and simulating properly. Will try again when I upgrade but I tried with simpler garnments and I don't know, it never looks how I imagined it.

Anonymous at Sun, 28 May 2023 20:20:31 UTC No. 947012

>>947010
Unless your hardware is 10+ years old you shouldn't need to worry about adding a few more tris even if it runs a bit slow. This is a good workflow, notice the tricount on the model coming out of Marvelous:
>https://www.artstation.com/blogs/emilie_boisvert/RDKR/marvelous-designer-to-maya-part-1-retopology-domo-arigato-auto-retopo

Anonymous at Mon, 29 May 2023 18:06:12 UTC No. 947108

>>947012
I swear that my laptop couldn't follow anymore when I had mutliple layers of clothes on top of each others. Very nice tuts tho, thanks.

Anonymous at Tue, 30 May 2023 16:10:50 UTC No. 947198

I just want to know if this guy's videos are really gone for good?
How does no one have them saved somewhere. There must be a third wolder somewhere that has them saved on his hard drive, I'm sure of it. Some can be found on bilibili but they all have the same shit quality...

Anonymous at Tue, 30 May 2023 17:49:33 UTC No. 947201

>>947198
just get any book on how to sew and stop relying on ridiculous hand holding youtube videos

Anonymous at Tue, 30 May 2023 19:06:05 UTC No. 947219

>>947201
Thing is, my fellow uneducated friend, that MD/Clo3D don't really work like IRL sewing. The garment is made around the body of your character not around a pattern.

Anonymous at Tue, 6 Jun 2023 19:08:39 UTC No. 947678

why did Daniel delete all of his stuff? i always wondered what happened to that guy.

Anonymous at Tue, 6 Jun 2023 20:19:48 UTC No. 947685

>>947678
le mouse struck again!

🗑️ Loi at Tue, 6 Jun 2023 23:33:18 UTC No. 947697

>>936282
>>>/vg/432702091
Artificial Academy 2 General /aa2g/ #1282
Sad Jack Edition

Welcome, this general is for the discussion of ILLUSION's Artificial Academy 2.

COPY ERROR MESSAGES WITH CTRL+C, PASTE THEM WITH CTRL+V INTO GOOGLE TRANSLATE. JUST CLICK THE WINDOW AND PRESS CTRL + C, IT WORKS.

>Downloads:
/aa2g/ Pre-Installed Game, AA2Mini: https://tsukiyo.me/AAA/AA2MiniPPX.xml
AAUnlimited updates: https://github.com/aa2g/AA2Unlimited/releases
Anon's Modded Pre-Install: https://pastebin.com/42JS3q6E

>Information:
AA2Mini Install Guide:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS8Ap6CrmSNXRsKG9jsIMqHYuHM3Cfs5qE5nX6iIgfzLlcWnmiwzmOrp27ytEMX03lFNRR7U5UXJalA/pub
General FAQ:
https://web.archive.org/web/20200216045726/https://pastebin.com/bhrA6iGx
AAU Guide and Resources (Modules, Tans, Props, Poses, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17qb1X0oOdMKU4OIDp8AfFdLtl5y_4jeOOQfPQ2F-PKQ/edit#gid=0

>Character Cards [Database], now with a list of every NonOC in the megas:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1niC6g-Xd2a2yaY98NBFdAXnURi4ly2-lKty69rkQbJ0/edit#gid=2085826690
https://db.bepis.moe/aa2/

>Mods & More:
Mods for AAU/AA2Mini (ppx format, the mediafire has everything):
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vwrmdohus4vhh/Mods
/aa2g/ Modding Reference Guide (Slot lists for Hair/Clothes/Faces, List Guides, and More):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gwmoVpKuSuF0PtEPLEB17eK_dexPaKU106ShZEpBLhg/edit#gid=1751233129
Booru: https://aau.booru.org

>HELP! I have a Nvidia card and my game crashes on startup!
Try the dgVoodoo option in the new win10fix settings.
Alternative: Update your AAU and see if it happens again. If so, disable win10fix, enable wined3d and software vertex processing.
>HELP! Required Windows 11 update broke things!
winkey+R -> ms-settings:developers -> Terminal=Windows Console Host

Previous Thread:
>>>/vg/432320786

Anonymous at Wed, 7 Jun 2023 13:34:44 UTC No. 947730

>>947685
Fuck them and fuck him

Anonymous at Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:04:23 UTC No. 948364

>>936915
>People have to go to school literally for years to learn how to sew properly and then they often join guilds.
Some of us niggers have made shit from Simplicity patterns at Jo-Ann's you know, it's not an arcane fucking skill

Anonymous at Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:05:24 UTC No. 948365

>>936923
>I am poor
fuck you
get a job