🧵 simple 3d modeling program
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 05:36:50 UTC No. 940113
Blender is way too complex for me. Does /3/ know of any simpler programs?
I've been using an android app called prisma 3d up to this point. Its almost exactly what I need and I'd stick to using it if it wasn't practically incapable of texturing.
I've also worked with milkshape 3d and its ui is comprehensible. So anything similar to that which has tutorials available online would also work.
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 07:00:12 UTC No. 940118
tinkercad, but I don't think that can do texturing either and it's well cad focused.
But since you mention texturing, you'd need to do uv unwrapping for that and if blender is too complicated for you you won't grok that either.
But srs you can learn the basic concepts of blender in an afternoon.
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 07:09:31 UTC No. 940119
Wings 3D
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 07:16:31 UTC No. 940120
>>940118
>But srs you can learn the basic concepts of blender in an afternoon
I have tried and failed multiple times. I just get about 5 minutes into the first tutorial and my brain shuts off. It also doesn't help that I'm stuck with 2.7 due to using old hardware.
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 07:53:24 UTC No. 940122
>>940120
>I'm stuck with 2.7 due to using old hardware.
Here's the mistake 2.7 was very non-intuitive.
What you mean you're stuck? I'm pretty sure 3.4 runs on a potato.
Now you can't go ham with polycounts and the subdiv modifier is still no near as fast as it used to be in 2.7 but for basic modelling that doesn't matter.
If it's really old (by that I mean a 32bit machine) there are also builds of 2.8 and 2.9 runs on windows 7.
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 08:00:45 UTC No. 940123
>>940122
Its an issue of gpu support. The gpu doesn't support opengl 3.0, so that means nothing newer than 2.7.
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 08:23:32 UTC No. 940125
>>940113
Minecraft
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 09:12:13 UTC No. 940127
>>940125
small kek
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 09:28:02 UTC No. 940128
>>940118
hello fellow stranger
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 10:19:58 UTC No. 940129
>>940120
2.7 is your problem, i had the same experience with it multiple times and with 2.8 it was so much fun and way easier to learn(donut tutorial was a great introduction there)
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 10:32:19 UTC No. 940131
Don't worry if you can't run 2.8+. You're not missing out on anything of any value. 2.79 is fine. Take it with patience.
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 10:44:03 UTC No. 940133
>>940129
How many times do I have to tell you to stop posting here Blender Guru? Don't you have to go finish some rendering of a kitchen with dramatic lighting or something?
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:22:56 UTC No. 940165
>>940131
its not an issue of patience. I just can't learn blender. The interface is just too much of a barrier to entry. There's too much going on, I can't focus on anything.
Pic related is an interface I can actually comprehend. I could learn anything like this provided I just had some tutorials.
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 18:35:02 UTC No. 940172
>>940113
>blender
>complex
it's actually pretty simple when you get the 10000ft view, but it exposes everything to you at once which is overwhelming
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 18:38:35 UTC No. 940173
>>940172
thats exactly my problem. Its too much all at once. I just can't deal with that.
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 18:44:52 UTC No. 940175
>>940173
the key is to deal with only a slice of it at a time.
each individual component is pretty straight forward. the UI has been designed so there is a lot of overlap between the keybindings of different tools, making learning new tools easier.
you don't need to know anything about animation to master modeling, which is what you need to get good at first.
also, don't be afraid of looking at the manual and reading even boring chapters like the basics of the UI.
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 18:56:34 UTC No. 940180
>>940175
>the key is to deal with only a slice of it at a time.
my problem is that I can't do that. There's too much overlap between all the features so I can't compartmentalize it mentally.
Anonymous at Thu, 16 Mar 2023 22:10:24 UTC No. 940201
>>940113
>Blender is way too complex for me.
skill issue
Anonymous at Fri, 17 Mar 2023 12:57:31 UTC No. 940248
>>940165
sounds like you have a very severe learning disability
Anonymous at Fri, 17 Mar 2023 14:06:42 UTC No. 940251
>>940113
Anon, just stick with Blender or whatever, keep learning the basics. Even at higher skill levels, you're using the basic tools and panels most of the time.
Nobody's forcing you to figure out these really specific render settings or world settings, or camera lensing or whatnot, you forget about all that for now - pretend it doesn't exist, just focus on making your little car or what you like, and take it from there one step at a time.
You'll what to learn, when you really need it.
>I sure wish there was a way to do this thing I need for my car.
And there you go, you're easily learning things that seemed impossible when you thought of it all as too complex for you to ever learn.
Anonymous at Fri, 17 Mar 2023 15:05:28 UTC No. 940259
>>940248
Unironically yes. I have ADD. Shit makes learning complex tools like blender nearly impossible.
Anonymous at Fri, 17 Mar 2023 15:34:19 UTC No. 940261
>>940259
>Unironically yes. I have ADD. Shit makes
My reply was before yours just now. I "unironically" had a severe stroke.
Nearly impossible isn't a good excuse, ever.
>It's difficult for me, so I'll hold off, and eventually it'll be too late.
You zoomers are such losers, I swear to god. It's so annoying to read this stuff. You have every advantage, but something your parents got you diagnosed with decides for you, nope, can't do it, nuh uh, gonna make a thread on fucking 4chan asking for a handout to something dumbed down instead. And what happens after that? You come back for another handout, because you go out of your way to not learn. There's probably someone more crippled than me on this board, and they're probably doing better than you, too, if I am. We all start from somewhere.
Don't complain you're getting confused by things you don't need. Go watch some beginner tutorials. The tools they show you how to use, are what you're going to be using 99% of the time.
Anonymous at Fri, 17 Mar 2023 16:32:00 UTC No. 940269
>>940261
>but something your parents got you diagnosed with decides for you, nope, can't do it, nuh uh,
Do you think medical disorders are just invented by doctors and a person is perfectly fine before they're diagnosed?
I had serious problems focusing and paying attention long before I got diagnosed.
People have been telling me to "just try harder" and "just work through it" my entire life. That does not work. It has never worked.
The best I can do is to work around it. In this case that's finding a program with a different UI than blender.
In the time this thread has been up I've been digging through old archived websites and actually found some tutorials for an old program with a UI I can use, no thanks to you or this thread. So I'm going to just use that.
Anonymous at Fri, 17 Mar 2023 16:34:14 UTC No. 940271
>>940113
minecraft
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Mar 2023 15:10:07 UTC No. 940384
>>940113
maya, got the hang of it extremly quickly, talking sub 1 month.
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Mar 2023 15:48:26 UTC No. 940386
>>940269
Or you could get medicated for your stupid condition so you can function normally, if you can't even figure out Blender finding a simpler program is the least of your worries
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Mar 2023 16:30:01 UTC No. 940388
>>940269
> an old program with a UI I can use
Out of curiosity, which one?
Anonymous at Sat, 18 Mar 2023 21:54:58 UTC No. 940400
I like Blockbench, MagickaVoxel, and Plasticity for doing certain types of modeling for fun. But those are not as flexible and powerful as Blender. I'd suggest sticking with Blender because it has tons of good tutorials and information online that you can use.
Anonymous at Sun, 19 Mar 2023 09:01:23 UTC No. 940456
Wings3D?
Anonymous at Sun, 19 Mar 2023 09:12:50 UTC No. 940457
People without any medical condition have serious trouble using Blender's UI. It's just that OP doesn't have the correct mental condition.
Anonymous at Sun, 19 Mar 2023 10:35:26 UTC No. 940462
>>940113
You're thinking about it the wrong way Op. Blender isn't more complex than it needs to be to do what it does.
If you want to do something basic learn how to do that and ignore all the rest. If you evey wanna grow and branch out
those parts will be there for you the day you need them and feel ready to learn something more advanced.
Plus blender will stick around and remain relevant for the rest of our lives. Don't waste your time teaching something that isn't gonna be there for you day you need it for something.
Anonymous at Sun, 19 Mar 2023 16:55:34 UTC No. 940476
>>940118
V?
Anonymous at Mon, 20 Mar 2023 23:37:48 UTC No. 940572
>>940456
>>940119
No.
That shit crashes all the time for no good reason corrupting your files in the process and it is kind of retarded.
Anonymous at Tue, 21 Mar 2023 00:52:17 UTC No. 940578
>>940113
Have you tried play-doh buddy?
You can make stars and dinosaurs 'till you get tuckered out and then we'll eat cookies together
Anonymous at Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:51:20 UTC No. 940720
>>940269
take your fucking meds then
or find the local meth dealer and buy some meth if you can't afford a legitimate prescription or some retarded shit like that
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Mar 2023 21:25:50 UTC No. 940862
>>940720
>>940386
I'm not going back on Adderall. That stuff is essentially meth and taking it (at least dose I needed) made me tweaked out all the time.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Mar 2023 21:28:05 UTC No. 940863
>>940388
Milkshape 3d. Its mainly meant for game modding, but all I need are models, the animation is going to be done in seperate program.
Anonymous at Thu, 23 Mar 2023 21:30:33 UTC No. 940865
>>940462
Old software dooesn't cease to exist once it stops being updated. Most of the software and hardware I use is 10+ years old and it still does everything I need it to.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Mar 2023 15:41:25 UTC No. 941249
>>940113
Trial of Rhinoceros is worth checking out, but full version expensive.
Anonymous at Mon, 27 Mar 2023 15:43:28 UTC No. 941250
For low level polygon editing 3d studio max is still the best, but that's about all it does well. Blender is better in every way now. But for low polys 3ds max is still very old school. But it hogs memory. Milkshape really was pretty awesome.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Apr 2023 05:47:33 UTC No. 942100
>>941249
if dude can't afford to buy cheapest modern hardware then this is beyond him.
>>940113
go to work, earn mone, buy cheapest modern hardware that supports current blender. There is heaven and hell of difference between what we got right now and what was in past. Clean and simple ui.
Or if you are so stuck and already (seems like) picked you tool, why even ask people here.
Blender seems like least of your issues here.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Apr 2023 08:16:36 UTC No. 942107
>>942100
You're right. 2.7 had a clean and simple UI compared to 2.8+
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Apr 2023 08:47:56 UTC No. 942108
I keep trying to learn blender every 5 years or so and every time it gets a lot better. Honestly, it's pretty good now, you should make the effort to learn it. Just stick to some basic tools at first. No need to learn the entire assload of features in one go.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Apr 2023 09:06:36 UTC No. 942109
>>942107
yup, totally! But personally I like to challenge myself which is why I'm fighting against this big bad new UI.
Anonymous at Wed, 5 Apr 2023 10:00:23 UTC No. 942113
>>940113
Why doesn't anyone explicitly say that Right Click > Subdivide and Subdivide modifier are 2 different things? I can sculpt without applying it and it gives me that nice cage around the mesh I can fuck around with.