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Anonymous at Tue, 11 Apr 2023 04:54:48 UTC No. 942615
Should anatomy be critiqued by someone who has not done a single piece of finished work? No offense but I think some people like talking out of their asses all the time even if their intentions are good-willed. Anatomy is hard to master yet very easy to nitpick even by beginners who can't keep their ego in check.
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Apr 2023 08:16:18 UTC No. 942622
>>942615
Yes, 99% of "critics" here are failed artists, you shouldn't listen to them. Cool skelly by the way
Anonymous at Tue, 11 Apr 2023 22:07:56 UTC No. 942729
>>942615
Criticism is very easy to verify. If someone says there is a problem, and you know what you're doing, then you can easily dismiss it. Just let it roll of your shoulders, it shouldn't even affect you emotionally, because you're confident in your work. And I talking about when you KNOW your shit. Not ego telling you, but study and practice. Then you can brush off criticism like it's nothing.
Criticism only bothers people who still have a lot to learn, because it makes you feel insecure about your creation. when you feel insecure, your instinct might be to check the person lobbing criticism. Because if you can invalidate that person, then you can invalidate what they said. However, it's just as easy to check their claims. If they say something is wrong with your anatomy, then just go seek out references, and check to see if they're right or wrong. If they're wrong, move on with your life. If they're right, then correct your mistake. Simple as that.
Worrying about who is telling you what, is a burden ultimately. An emotional tax that drains you, and stifles improvement. You should only care about right or wrong. Not who said what.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Apr 2023 00:01:05 UTC No. 942735
>>942729
You're being socialized with shitty critiques. The ideas get planted at the back of your mind and your art will become changed. You cant trust the people here.
Social media alters art and it makes it homogonous instead of what you meant for it to be. The person givien you critique has no idea what you want to make. The person wants you to make the project like the person wants you to make it. You're all characters being programed by each other and you have to be careful about getting bad instructions.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Apr 2023 00:41:57 UTC No. 942737
>>942735
This is where taste comes in. I'm not telling you to accept every criticism you hear. I'm telling you to verify. To evaluate. To use your own judgement to determine if the criticism is valid or not. "Does this advice help me achieve what I want?" If yes: heed. If no: ignore. It's not that complicated. People make it complicated, because their feelings get hurt.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Apr 2023 04:56:04 UTC No. 942758
>>942622
It is not mine lmao, it's from a turboautist discordfag who hangs with a bunch of professional artists. He likes posting his unfinished anatomy sculpts and rambling out unsolicited anatomy feedback to unsuspecting begs. Pretty much the reason why you should verify as >>942737 says.
Anonymous at Wed, 12 Apr 2023 21:24:03 UTC No. 942807
>>942758
I know who you are talking about lolol
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Apr 2023 01:35:26 UTC No. 942829
>>942807
Are you talking about OP or the nigga? There's actually 2 of them but one is worse than the other kek.
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:16:41 UTC No. 942901
>>942615
lol jesus i hate that guy he spouts nonsense nonstop, he's obviously autistic tho
Anonymous at Thu, 13 Apr 2023 18:22:39 UTC No. 942902
>>942829
yeah that one shawn guy and he %100 clearly thinks of himself as a professional, retards like him is what's kept me going back to discord desu
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Apr 2023 02:30:43 UTC No. 942934
>>942902
>can't decide if he wants to be a professional anatomy teacher or professional codemonkey
Damn, autismos have it rough.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Apr 2023 03:20:34 UTC No. 942936
People are entitled to their opinions and have a right to express them.
I don't have to know anatomy to recognize that your representation is incorrect. That's how it works most of the time.
I don't have to be a physician to recognize that somebody is not able to walk correctly. I don't have to be a neurosuregon to recognize that somebody has mental issues.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Apr 2023 18:19:15 UTC No. 942991
>>942936
Nah I think you should stfu if you don't know what you're talking about.
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Apr 2023 19:00:42 UTC No. 942992
>>942936
Yeah I mean, Nobody is doing their time pointing out your teeth is yellow or you are disabled or you are bald right?????
Anonymous at Fri, 14 Apr 2023 22:50:44 UTC No. 943010
The ultimate judge is the public, the unwashed masses. Unless you're making technical drawings and those are meant to be read by other professionals, you need to get used to it.
Anonymous at Sat, 15 Apr 2023 00:33:43 UTC No. 943015
>>942615
Probably not most of the time. Anyone can point out mistakes to an extent, but most of the time they lack the vocabulary to point out specifics, or even the experience to be able to help people. On top of that, many inexperienced individuals may have misconceptions about certain bodily features, like how a 6-pack is not a set of 6 muscles, but is actually a single muscle comprising of 8-10 sections that stretches from right below the pectorals, all the way down to the crotch. They will misguide people and get them to fix mistakes that aren't there.
Even for people who have experience, sometimes it’s just a salty beg picking on someone worse or only slightly better than him, or even someone who knows their shit, but thinks stylization is always nothing but an excuse for a lack of talent or effort, and will say someone’s work looks like shit if it isn’t a AAA realistic model with pores everywhere.
Sometimes you’re better off having good presentation skills instead of trying to be an anatomy expert. You can model whatever you want, and as long as it looks “professional”, people on the internet will stroke your cock. I see tons of really cool character models get ignored because the presentation of the model was poor. You can be a presentation and anatomy expert, but both of those skills take time to develop, and you shouldn’t have to subject yourself to endless grinding until you achieve perfection just to be able to appease people who try to stop you from making the things you want.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Apr 2023 00:29:44 UTC No. 943952
>>942615
anatomy shouldnt be critiqued by someone who doesnt know WHY artists learn anatomy.
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Apr 2023 01:12:52 UTC No. 943957
>>943952
and why would that be, mr gatekeeper?
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Apr 2023 22:25:39 UTC No. 944114
>>942615
God i wish I could bully this autistic fuck publicly
Anonymous at Tue, 25 Apr 2023 00:44:05 UTC No. 944122
>>944114
lmaooo, I have yet to see anything finished from him.
Anonymous at Thu, 27 Apr 2023 01:17:52 UTC No. 944298
>>942615
The best critics are your own pair of eyes, train them.
Don't need to listen to anything else.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Apr 2023 05:38:06 UTC No. 944388
>>942615
I've determined if I'm pedagogically capable of teaching what I've learned, then it's probably worth disseminating what came from obsessing over hands or the rotator cuff. Though it should be communicated with a disclaimer that additional context could be missing. That is to say the one giving the feedback hasn't reached the point where knowledge becomes more complete and overlapping (seeing the relationship between elements) that its been integrated to the point of reaching comprehension and you'd likely update or revise your feedback. It's like a jigsaw puzzle. 10 seemingly unintelligible forgettable pieces show a new simpler to understand unit as comfy cabin on a hill. Finish the puzzle and it may be far from that and would explain why the roof is so close to the clouds.
On one hand it's pretty epistemologically limiting anatomical study to experience alone and very specific standard at that. On the other hand you're going to be sorting through the noise and pedantic queers trying to perceive isolated flaws that may not even be there or tell you to memorize everything that most doctors don't remember nor need to. Most people aren't mentally ill enough to try to compete with being a harsher critic of your own work than yourself.
>>942902
Anatomy thread not discord drama circlejerk. You return to discord for retarded reasons because you're an oversocialized addict.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Apr 2023 11:51:44 UTC No. 944408
>>942615
if you have some experience, you know when things look like shit,
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Apr 2023 05:21:15 UTC No. 944572
doesnt take a sailor to say the ship has sunk
Anonymous at Mon, 1 May 2023 19:22:50 UTC No. 944739
How do you even go about learning anatomy? Is there a website for this? Catering to the 3D man, I wouldn't think it necessary to learn the intricacies of the cardiovascular system, you're not a doctor or a heart surgeon. Also, how do you know when you're 'done'?
Anonymous at Mon, 1 May 2023 20:31:33 UTC No. 944746
>>944739
Look at anatomy charts and (more importantly) real bodies
Start saving references into organised folders as much as possible
Download pure ref and have make/open a reference board every time you're doing anything, let alone sculpting bodies
It's hard to know when you're done done till you see it rendered. But if you're not going to do fully decked out models with all the bells and whistles then it's just down to if you think it looks good enough
One thing keep not about the human body is that nobody's muscles, veins, etc have the same shape and structure,
over time you'll pick up on how drastic the differences between people can be. So you'll get an Idea of how the shapes you put in your sculpt that aren't in a reference image you have on hand or anything like that can be
There was one more thing I had in mind that slipped as I was typing this
Anonymous at Mon, 1 May 2023 20:35:24 UTC No. 944747
>>944746(me)
Oh right, I remember
Photos of real people > Anatomy charts and shit like that 100000000%
Use anatomy charts and whatnot as guides and guides only. Nobody has the perfectly placed muscles and veins
Anonymous at Mon, 1 May 2023 20:36:35 UTC No. 944748
>>944747(me)
Unless you're doing some underneath the skin work like OP for leaning purposes
Anonymous at Wed, 10 May 2023 11:31:18 UTC No. 945554
>>945543
What server? I want to join
Anonymous at Wed, 10 May 2023 21:29:16 UTC No. 945584
>>945554
Why would you? It's literally full of soi boy redditors who are Le funny and quirky and the only entertaining thing is the occasional sperg posting there, like the guy in question.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 May 2023 21:31:12 UTC No. 945585
>>945543
Retard can't even write properly, I don't know why people put up with him.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 May 2023 00:44:15 UTC No. 945596
>>945585
If you want to dig yourself a grave in the 3d industry, sure go ahead.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 May 2023 03:05:25 UTC No. 945605
>>945596
What do you mean? It's not like CEO's hang out in that server.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 May 2023 08:45:21 UTC No. 945618
>>945584
What, server, Anon?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 May 2023 17:26:55 UTC No. 945646
>>945618
I think they're talking about the experience points server