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Anonymous at Wed, 21 Jun 2023 00:02:38 UTC No. 948943
Where the FUCK is AI unwrapping?
>extremely tedious and annoying task nobody likes
>plentiful training data in the form of every real time 3D application with textured models ever (if your GPU is rendering it, you can scrape the UV data)
Where the fuck is it? This is a perfect example of an area in need of AI.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Jun 2023 00:36:29 UTC No. 948946
AI uv unwrapping is like chatting with Chat GPT - almost entirely useless.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Jun 2023 06:28:48 UTC No. 948955
Baka, AI is only for automating the things people ENJOY doing.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Jun 2023 11:27:26 UTC No. 948964
>>948955
never seen a better summary.
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Jun 2023 13:15:29 UTC No. 948969
>>948943
>He doesn't just select edgeloops to mark seams
>He doesn't use Geometry Nodes to do it procedurally
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Jun 2023 15:59:32 UTC No. 948976
>>948943
unwrapping isn't particularly tedious and AI is a useless fad, not a universal solution. have you ever even made a proper, highly complex mesh? redesigning after having gone deep and quadrifying delicate topology without messing up shading are the real timesinks. when I'm at the unwrapping stage i usually sigh in relief
Anonymous at Wed, 21 Jun 2023 21:17:42 UTC No. 948994
>>948976
>AI is a useless fad
I really wish it was, but human intelligence isn't as special as we thought, computers can extract the same patterns of meaning that humans grasp and manipulate with their meat brains.
Anything a human can do, a computer can be taught to do eventually
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 02:25:00 UTC No. 949013
>>948994
LLM is not intelligence, kiddo
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 16:07:48 UTC No. 949062
>>948994
none of that is true you fucking retard, you obviously don't even know what AI is or does. why don't you watch some random popsci-summary on youtube instead of debating about something you know nothing about.
>nothing special about the human mind
unlike an AI, a human has a consciousness and emotion - why is this important? because these qualities automatically lead to free will: a human can choose his own function, whereas an AI will always be trapped optimizing whatever you ordered it to.
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 20:50:41 UTC No. 949097
>>949062
>muh consciousness and emotion
Enjoy those copes while you can, I suspect you may be able to persist in your delusions for as much as five years. After that they will be impossible to sustain
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 21:06:39 UTC No. 949098
>>949097
just 2 more weeks until the rich lose all their money, all the militaries in the world collapse but not before all the reactors and nukes rain down from the sky
bro ;)
Anonymous at Thu, 22 Jun 2023 23:44:02 UTC No. 949109
>>949108
>moving the goalposts
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jun 2023 10:45:27 UTC No. 949144
>>949109
No goal posts involved retard, just making a comparison between your retarded prediction and another more famous one.
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jun 2023 12:41:55 UTC No. 949149
>>949144
>2 more weeks
Anonymous at Fri, 23 Jun 2023 17:05:31 UTC No. 949169
A killer app for unwrapping would have to be very complicated as the 'ideal' unwrap takes many different forms depending on the form and function of each individual piece of art. Modularity, symmetric and non symmetric mirroring, texel density priority, asynchronous texel density, masking arrangements, all need to be taken into account for production ready artwork.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Jun 2023 17:00:30 UTC No. 949606
>>949149
what is it about AI art that makes people seethe so much?
how are you not projecting your insecurity?
I use AI already instead of paying for somebody to help me. I use chat GPT to generate dummy texts and fill out applications already. why wouldn't it replace you?
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Jun 2023 18:30:06 UTC No. 949608
>>949606
>what is it about AI art that makes people seethe so much?
It's a trained propaganda response. He's literally coping with existential fear by downplaying the threat.
Anonymous at Wed, 28 Jun 2023 20:37:39 UTC No. 949616
The silly thing is you don't even need """AI""", meaning neural networks for UV unwrapping and mapping.
It follows very straight forward rules that could be enumerated in a handcrafted algorithm.
The only "intelligence" you need is fuzzy logic, that's 1960s tech. The rest could be just inspecting topology and geometry applying rules.
Anonymous at Thu, 29 Jun 2023 01:11:29 UTC No. 949640
>>949606
>Dummy texts
>Applications
Lmao
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 12:18:08 UTC No. 949976
>>948969
I'm not op but I'm willing to learn and even post results with a push in the right direction. Been needing an excuse (motivatIon) to play with nodes
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 13:21:59 UTC No. 949981
From a desperate boomer board:
>- AI image generators allowing for custom fine-tuning still rely on the initial training sourcing images without consent, so even if the images are used as concept only there is still an underlying ethical issue here.
this doesnt hold up, does it? You don't need consent to scrape an image, same as you dont need consent to look at an image and be influenced by it. Thoughts?
Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 15:26:43 UTC No. 949988
>>949981
It doesn't but this won't stop anyone feeling butthurt about it from claiming that it does.
The real problem is these deranged boomers are organized and try to manufacture legal precedent.
🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 1 Jul 2023 15:40:30 UTC No. 949990
>>949988
>ethical issues
This is when we know they are truly desperate
Anonymous at Fri, 7 Jul 2023 22:47:21 UTC No. 950754
>>949981
>>949988
This happens every time. They tried to outlaw steam engines too. Sometimes it works in delaying the inevitable a few years, often only in limited ways.
In the end it never works though, it's like throwing yourself at a speeding train to slow it down a little bit.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Jul 2023 01:12:36 UTC No. 950769
>>950754
The way text ai works completely ignores copyright law, licensing, and attribution. Its completely illegal how people use it.
Image ai is a tricky area, too. Its nothing like the steam engine
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Jul 2023 05:14:56 UTC No. 950782
How possible would AI Retopo be then?
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Jul 2023 11:23:01 UTC No. 950796
>>948943
Sure just pay me to develop it, it's going to be about 1 year of work.
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Jul 2023 11:24:03 UTC No. 950797
>>950782
Very possible, in fact already been done. See >>950796
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Jul 2023 19:26:22 UTC No. 950831
>>950797
>>950796
>>950782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZU
[spoiler] Retopology is actually easy if you know how to go about it efficiently. Clearing the mesh of unwanted bumps and wrinkles is the difficult part. [/spoiler] AI can't do either, vid unrelated.
Anonymous at Thu, 20 Jul 2023 15:15:14 UTC No. 952287
>>952285
useless
Anonymous at Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:41:40 UTC No. 952677
>>952285
Can it sort UV islands after face groups?
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jul 2023 02:59:40 UTC No. 952764
>>949108
did you even read whats in the image you posted?
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jul 2023 03:08:07 UTC No. 952767
>>950769
Copyright is to make sure that the resulting image, text, or other creation is assured to the consumer as being legit, but there's a lot of money in place to try and twist that to make it the opposite and has been since the early 1900s
Anonymous at Mon, 24 Jul 2023 04:59:14 UTC No. 952770
>>948955
kek well said