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Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 18:56:52 UTC No. 983502
guys i'm never on this channel but i wanted to know something maybe some of you who play tarkov or arena breakout infinioty have heard about it
BSG the company that develops tarkov says the game arena breakout has stolen their assets including not only models but also sounds etc. you are experts in 3d modelling what do you guys say? i really wanted to hear from experts what is true or not here are two videos one says it is stolen the other says it is not stolen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4l
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNn
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 19:52:08 UTC No. 983505
>>983502
Sifting thru it and looking at those meshes as someone who has modeled for decades I can tell you that even if I built a same real world object as another artist to autistic detail there is no chance all the edge loops would end up that similar.
Also the number of AK variations and models that exist out there is immense, to end up this similar in form-factor they more or less had to have used the same individual rifle as their base. I'm 99.9998% sure this is retouched assets copied from the other game.
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 19:55:22 UTC No. 983508
>>983502
Im glad the bottom video guy wasted 10 minutes saying "Uhmm akshully the topology is completely different!!!" just to say at 10:01 "Well actually I think they just re-topo'd Tarkovs model"
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 20:16:32 UTC No. 983511
>>983505
but how can someone extract the 3d models from a game i don't get it. are they cracking the game to steal the models?
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 20:25:33 UTC No. 983512
>>983511
Tarkov runs on unity so it's known what the format looks like, I dunno if file rippers are readily available but it's not super hard
for any savvy programmer to find the mesh data and write a custom exporter, has been done for tons of popular game engines in the past.
If all else fails there are interception software that dumps whatever is rendered on screen by directX open GL etc from memory to a 3D mesh file
so if Tarkov has say a mode to spectate the gun it'd be trivial to rip it that way with software like DX Ripper in a 'ready to use' kind of state.
It's sorta like how no matter what kind of protection a website run so you can't save their images by right click there is no guard against 'print-screen'. If it renders on your system it must be available in memory in a un-ecrypted format your graphics hardware can understand.
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 20:26:37 UTC No. 983513
>>983511
You struggled at school didn't you
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 20:30:02 UTC No. 983514
>>983513
sorry english is not my main language. i try my best to improve my english sorry
>>983512
thank you for explaining it to me
Anonymous at Wed, 15 May 2024 22:57:20 UTC No. 983521
>>983511
there's programs that scan things directly at directx level
Anonymous at Fri, 17 May 2024 06:01:49 UTC No. 983646
>>983511
At some point these models end up in RAM and VRAM in a format optimized for speedy reading (=not secure at all and easily readable), that's where they get copied and written to disk.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 May 2024 15:56:51 UTC No. 984652
>>983502
Maybe they bought the same asset?
Sometimes happens that companies buy assets and they modify them to fit the style.
But if one of the companies model and texture that asset from scratch the textures and MN are basically the same on both.
Anonymous at Sun, 26 May 2024 20:22:11 UTC No. 984673
>>983513
>yea so this is for sure copied from the game
>ok so how did they copy it from the game?
>DURRR YOU STRUGGLED AT SCHOOL DURHHHH
kill yourself
Anonymous at Sat, 8 Jun 2024 15:18:08 UTC No. 985948
ABI built their high poly models from tarkov's ripped low poly models, then poly reduced the lows. They also baked the texture data to speed up texturing, which is why key texture details are the same (they couldn't even be bothered to overlay a texture or clone stamp to break them up)
As >>983505 said, there is no way the models line up that perfectly. Someone should check the UVs on both assets and see how they line up.
Anonymous at Mon, 17 Jun 2024 17:05:22 UTC No. 987097
>>984632
whoa
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 09:59:16 UTC No. 987306
>>983513
This is why no one likes you
Anonymous at Wed, 19 Jun 2024 10:36:50 UTC No. 987310
>>983646
but what if you bought too much ram and thus it because unreacheable?
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 20:35:43 UTC No. 989889
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 19:52:07 UTC No. 991566
>>985948
interesting...
However despite the overwhelming evidence, how does this make you any less gayer?
Anonymous at Sun, 4 Aug 2024 19:53:39 UTC No. 991567
>>983502
Yeah no shit that’s stolen, look at it