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Anonymous No. 986405

is it a bad idea to use A.I. pictures as reference for modeling and texture color?

Anonymous No. 986406

Yes, look at the arm, one is bigger than the other. AI doesn’t care about human anatomy.

Anonymous No. 986412

It depends as long as you get the model to look decent then I see no problem with using it as a reference for textures

Anonymous No. 986421

No it's not a bad idea
Change the things that are off
For example her hands are masculine looking

Anonymous No. 986426

You are both idiots to believe this nonsense. Real tracing will help you learn how some did the arm. A robot will not teach you anything about likeness of a human.

Anonymous No. 986428

AI is terrible to use as reference.
References for anatomy, which you need even for anime crap, need to be accurate and high quality, and you need to be able to use them to understand how the body works. There's always accuracy problems, and you will end up reproducing those errors.
It's less bad to use it for stylistic reference, but even I personally wouldn't use it. They tend to be generic, and this might sound like bullshit but there's an important difference between reference and inspiration. Being inspired is having an idea, you see something and it makes you think of something ELSE. The risk with using AI is that you task the ai with creating something that you will then basically copy.
That doesn't happen when you look for real photographs or art created by real people, with those you won't find the exact image that you need, and if you did you wouldn't be able to create your own art without it just being a copy.
Furthermore, you need to spend time looking for references and inspiration and building a collection. You need to learn to always be on the lookout for reference and inspo IRL and to take a photo. If all you do is use AI, the scope of your creativity will be severely limited.

The only time I'll use AI as reference is if a client comes to me with AI stuff. I wish they wouldn't, it's better if we just talk, but they're paying me so there you go.

Anonymous No. 986470

anime artstyle allows a fuckton of leeway in actual proportions, so it hides a lot of mistakes the AI or a shit artist makes. Don't fall in this hole and learn actual anatomy and then apply the style with meaning and care.
you can easily see, that this discount asuka has the shoulders of a linebacker (her shoulder joints are actually completely outside her torso) and a balding problem.
as for colors, yeah it usually hits the common color schemes, but that's about it (brown-ish and dark blue, how wild)
(also, who tf wears a watch on their right hand)

Anonymous No. 986543

>Real tracing will help you learn how some did the arm
Are you sure you know what a reference means?
Op is not taking about to learn to draw, he wants to use Ai as a reference to model and texturing.
You can use Ai to do so, like every 2d drawing you have to make it work for 3d.

Anonymous No. 986545

Can you stop with your AI bullshit Cris ? how many threads here are yours? >20? I've seen you on int pol g vg mu, it is time to stop.

Anonymous No. 986556

Do you seriously believe every A.I. poster is Chris?

Anonymous No. 986558

How many people can be posting here? from 30 to 50? this thread was made by Cris, 100% chance.

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Anonymous No. 986561

Color is the only thing AI is actually good at

Anonymous No. 986563

I don’t think you understand, each person does it differently. One will use tools while another used their hands. AI can’t copy human thought into why a female has normal clothing. Just like this example here: >>986561

Wind is going right but clothing and hair is going left, inconsistent logic. Never use AI for tracing. Also colors don’t make sense, there’s no sun so everything being red is illogical. Plants are black while character and cloud are red. The sky is blue for no reason. Another example of why you should not use AI.

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Anonymous No. 986566

"What is this why is he holding a planet, humans cant hold up a planet!"
"The planet is red but the bounce light on the suite is white, its not right"
"Why is the yang red it should be white"
Have you considered NPR (Non photo realism) exists and human artists use it all the time because NPR is usually more interesting

Anonymous No. 986570

Doing those things with intentionality is good. If I drew a picture where the hair is blowing against the wind I would be doing it to convey something.
The AI doing it by accident for no reason, which means it serves no purpose. It's an error.

I actually like AI errors, I think AI art was far more interesting and worthwhile before it got better at stealing. Now the errors are just errors, and of no interest.

Anonymous No. 986581

Well at least real artists who drew real art and real software like Maya will not alternate the shadows. Also no human being can 90 degree their shoulders and arm. The body suit for the shoulder isn’t even bent it breaks the moment for the viewer. Oh and let me guess, you think humans can use their thumbs to hold planets. The arm isn’t even in a position, the entire thing looks way worse as you keep looking at it.

You’re not an artist, you can’t even tell the AI to stop doing bad things. Clearly your the problem and you need correction.

Anonymous No. 986582

>I don’t think you understand, each person does it differently.
I understand that, but OP asked something specific, can you use ai as a reference for modeling and colour?
Yes, you can. I've suffered from the same inconsistencies from a Human artist.

Anonymous No. 986585

>"What is this why is he holding a planet, humans cant hold up a planet!"
He's stealing it because he's black

Anonymous No. 986588

Then stop following the bad artist, it’s that simple.

No one grabs it with their thumbs, no one breaks their bones as the arm moves 90 degrees. AI is stupid to ever generate these inconsistent results.

Anonymous No. 986598

i genned like 150 model sheets of anthros and they all looked great.
ive a modelled exactly 0 of them in all this time, but i did it and they looked good.
if a gen looks like shit then gen a new one or fix it by hand. AI is a tool. its the future. get with it or get left behind.

Anonymous No. 986599

>ive a modelled exactly 0 of them in all this time, but i did it and they looked good.

Anonymous No. 986603

anything that gets you to actually work on your project is a good idea

genning a fuck ton of images in 5 minutes to use as references is more efficient than googling for 3 hours and never working on anything

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Anonymous No. 986611

This one came out very well. The features are lined up pretty well.
Rapid concepting is also a good use of AI. A vague idea can generate endless specific designs.

Anonymous No. 986641

Stolen from Deviantart i bet. AI has no idea how animals and humans are crossed to create furys.

Anonymous No. 986645

>Rapid concepting is also a good use of AI. A vague idea can generate endless specific designs.
Your mind's eye will stay blind forever

Anonymous No. 986666

I'm a 3d modeler not a character designer
I don't have mind eyes or mouth on my rectum, I want to model fun shit

Anonymous No. 986668

I already knew you aren't an artist, why are you telling me this

Anonymous No. 986671

not the same anon and i dont like the idea of using ai art
but being a character modeler and a character designer are two very different things
in all likelihood you will be a worse character modeler if you split your time between modeling and designing characters
now if you want to do both that can be awesome and you will probably get great results
but specializing into one practice wont make you less of an artist, it will most likely allow you to produce higher quality work

Anonymous No. 986682

>Your mind's eye
The what?! Next you'll tell me you can imagine an apple in your mind, you freak

Anonymous No. 986686

Now what the hell is a mind, you telling me some people can think!?

Anonymous No. 986714

there's no bigger self own than refusing to beleive an ai gen is sich after being told.
settle down. ive been drawing brand new characters and creatures for decades.

Anonymous No. 986725

>ive been drawing brand new characters and creatures for decades
Hello shadiversity

Anonymous No. 986735

AI can’t do art, it’s copying and pasting over meta data. You legitimately can do this as a human being.

Anonymous No. 986761

It's great for brainstorm-ish broad composition/forms/etc stuff, hence why it's replacing certain jobs and not others at the moment.
Just needs blanks filled in

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Anonymous No. 987208

Yeah I wasnt asking it to "do art" I was asking it to pump out designs. Then I would "do art" by making them 3D models.
Good thing too because the bing creator is fully cucked now and won't make images like these anymore.

Anonymous No. 987234

Ok dumb dumb here is a simple way to understand. You are using stolen art. It’s not yours and you can be held reliable for it. Copyright infringement is a crime.

Anonymous No. 987237

A) copyright infringement is a civil matter not a criminal one
B) it's "held liable"
C) "AI art is stolen" is a cope that will go nowhere and no artist will ever get any recourse or compensation
D) If I with my own effort and resources, create a 3D model, even with explicitly stolen references, that 3D model is my creation and my property.

Anonymous No. 987307

No it’s not:

> No Electronic Theft (NET) Act of 1997

The NET Act amended existing copyright laws to explicitly address electronic forms of copyright infringement. It criminalized certain acts of willful copyright infringement, making it a federal offense to reproduce, distribute, or share copyrighted material, even if there is no direct financial gain, as long as the infringement involves a certain quantity or value of infringing copies. The NET Act increased the legal consequences for copyright violations in the digital realm.

Anonymous No. 987325

Fair transformative use
Thanks for playing

Anonymous No. 987349

>Didn't inform the owner of the property
>Knew of AI stealing
>Warn multiple times
>Unable to confirm of the existence of the image source
>Refuses to provide any information
>OpenAI and many others, don’t grant you intellectual rights
No, you don’t have any fair usage. You made a mockery of the law.

Anonymous No. 987395

This is a really swell opinion you have which will never actually hold up in court. Especially not when the media giants start using AI generation in major productions. CR law exists for their sake not for artist's.
Even in your fairy land where the law works how you imagine, if I were to use promotional artwork as a reference for a drawing or 3D model that still doesn't constitute copyright infringement. You do not know what that is.
>Yeah but muh digital theft
That's not what the AI does and that's not what I would be doing as an artist using the designs. It's like you're arguing that "inspiration" is copyright infringement.
Now lets just enter the dreamworld of the fairyland youve concocted. It's still literally impossible to prove or even know about. If I have a 3D model made by hand, off of image planes generated by AI, trained off real world artwork, then the final product has passed through so many abstractions in addition to literally not being the same thing there would be no way to know and absolutely no way to prove it.
>Uh you see your honor this person's artwork has a big ass and googoo anime eyes
It's retarded. And misses the point by about 100%.
The only real issue is whether AI can generate worthwhile references. It can, and you're a fool to not progress with the technology.

Anonymous No. 987437

You are the fool to believe in nonsense. Trump can’t escape from the law and neither can you.