🧵 How did JP people make rectangular UVs like this in older games?
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 20:20:58 UTC No. 988488
It may still be used in mobile games or modern games, I'm not sure. But I'd be really curious to hear if there's a particular process to get this done in a fast enough way or if it's a matter of spending time on it.
Tips to make the actual texture fitting this would be appreciated too.
Anonymous at Fri, 28 Jun 2024 22:24:12 UTC No. 988497
>>988488
Was done manually, now there's a few add-ons to do this.
It's still used on low poly models with small resolution textures so the pixels don't appear rotated 45 degrees and to make seamless textures.
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 15:48:11 UTC No. 988545
>>988488
I'd like to know this too.
I cracked open some PSP models and many of their textures are laid out so neatly. How the hell do they do this?
Anonymous at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 19:03:03 UTC No. 988557
>>988488
>>988545
Just, like, fucking do it.Turn on snapping or do stuff like scaling selection to 0 on one axis (select, s, x 0 on blender to align all selected UVs vertically) and there you go.
There's few enough vertices that it's totally manageable.
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 16:54:50 UTC No. 988619
>>988497
Do you have links to said addons? I'm curious
>>988557
>>988565
Thank you anons, I'll experiment with this!
Anonymous at Sun, 30 Jun 2024 20:41:33 UTC No. 988631
>>988619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEc
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jul 2024 02:15:25 UTC No. 989438
>>988559
looks great*
Vivi is my nigga, poor dude only had like a year to live, and learnt it, big sad =(
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 05:07:39 UTC No. 989824
>>988488
Can anyone translate what does he meant by this? I'm trying to figure out how to extract models from this game but currently I'm stuck at the file type .pak and .tpl. I know .tpl is texture file for the models but what the hell is .pak and how to read it?
I've been following this tutorial when I encountered the extracted file.
https://youtu.be/8tW0cZH0yQ8?si=JFO
https://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?
>It's been a while since I last ripped from Radiant dawn so I might not remember all the steps correctly, but here we go:
>First, open a path of radiance iso with a program called GCTool (I'm not sure if wiiscrubber works there as well) and find where the battle models are stored. Then extract every single file that you will find in a character folder (every character works).
>Now open a radiant dawn iso with wiiscrubber, find where the battle character models are stored and then find a folder called SwoLE, which contains edward's myrmidon files. Replace everything except the pack.cmp (which is edward's model) with path of radiance's files. That will make the character go to the famous T-pose in battle.
>Then find the folder that contains the character you want to rip (for example, trueblade mia is SwoSW I think) and extract the pack.cmp and the tpl files, which are the textures.
>Replace edward's pack.cmp file with your character of choice and convert the texture files using a program called tpl converter. Then you should have the texture images in an usable format.
>Close wiiscrubber (it automatically saves the changes) and run the dolphin emulator with 3d ripper dx. Start a new game and skip everything until you can control edward. attack the bandit and voila! you get the character of your choice t-posed. >Get the frame with 3d ripper DX and find the character in a 3d editing program (know you'll have to deal with the weird double sided faces).
>And that's it, you need a bunch of programs but in the end it's worth it.
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 09:18:20 UTC No. 989834
>>988488
Just work in majority quads and triangulate afterward holy shit
Anonymous at Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:55:43 UTC No. 989846
>>989824
Try these Noesis plugins here https://github.com/Zheneq/Noesis-Pl
Anonymous at Mon, 29 Jul 2024 08:30:16 UTC No. 990925
>>988565
This only works for neat quad meshes, for low poly games which tend to have a lot of tris, you'll still need to manually move around stuff.
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 20:23:41 UTC No. 991687
>>988559
>38 day old post
wew. anyway, what's the best way to go for this look? I've tried this method before
>create model
>mark seams, unwrap efficiently, create some island margin, turn bleed up
>paint directly on model in blender
>reduce resolution, index colors
but whenever I've tried this it always gets fucked somewhere. should I be painting at the target resolution, like 256x256 or 128x128?
this one guy on twitter seems to have a similar style. I've never actually seen how they mark their seams and stuff to get these clean unwraps, either
https://x.com/heinn_dev/media
https://x.com/heinn_dev/status/1713
Anonymous at Tue, 6 Aug 2024 23:40:20 UTC No. 991709
>>991687
dude has a website where he roughly describes his process
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 00:20:58 UTC No. 991714
>>991709
yeah. would be nice to see him do it in a video though
he mentioned FF9 as a reference, looking at the models myself I can definitely see the similarities, even if FF9 does go above what's commonly seen as the texture size and poly limit (I'll post a pic after this to show it)
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 00:23:36 UTC No. 991715
>>991714
here's a texture for a basic enemy, quite a bit above what people would assume which is a 128x128 or 256x256 limit. the larger enemies like bosses are even more packed
the polygon sizes for some of the models even in FF7 are 2-3x more than what you'd expect is possible on the PS1. those pre-rendered backgrounds freed up a lot of space
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 00:30:43 UTC No. 991717
>>991687
You need to learn how UV mapping works. Don’t just assume texture is 1:1, you need to know how far away from the original source camera it is. You only learn the basics so I’m assuming it’s somewhere within 10:1 which means pixels aren’t visible thus creating unnecessary noise.
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 09:04:03 UTC No. 991739
>>991717
I have absolutely zero idea what you're talking about
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 10:12:18 UTC No. 991740
>>991739
This is the closest video I can find of someone explaining it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NY
Anonymous at Wed, 7 Aug 2024 11:42:47 UTC No. 991742
>>991715
Basically you're looking at it the wrong way. Like, for example ff9 models use 128x128 texture pages. That pic you posted is not one big texture but 3 128x128 pages used by 3 submeshes of the same monster
Anonymous at Wed, 14 Aug 2024 01:24:26 UTC No. 992121
Japanese don't unwrap their UVs unlike what they're teaching us westerners. They just place the planes as it is.