Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:52:44 UTC No. 993007

>>992993
'bout three fiddy

Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 06:52:57 UTC No. 993008

2 weeks learning CAD and rendering or 5 years torturing yourself with Blender

Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 09:52:01 UTC No. 993056

>>992993
it doesn't take as much experience and skill as you'd think to make a good model, just a lot of time actually making the model and attention to detail

Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 14:11:48 UTC No. 993110

>>993008
Is CAD really that good? Or is it just Blender is so shit? If it’s CAD, why?

Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 16:36:26 UTC No. 993143

>>993110
hes just being a retard, cad isnt THAT great for 3d art, and it would take you a few months to get to this level (given that you actually learn for this, not lets say animation or smth else)

Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 17:32:52 UTC No. 993160

>>993143
cad is superior to blender poly modeling when it comes to complex and pinpoint micro detailed modeling + length measuring when going after references

firearms are done in CAD software like fusion360 and they have features built in to make life easier

you only use blender for props

Anonymous at Mon, 26 Aug 2024 18:25:56 UTC No. 993172

>>993110
CAD is great for manmade objects and hard-surface models like the OP image, it's entirely useless for character models or organics. The reverse is true of poly modeling.

Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 05:22:54 UTC No. 993444

>>992993
10

Anonymous at Wed, 28 Aug 2024 15:57:44 UTC No. 993510

>>992993
All geometry here is hard surface modelling, so it's kinda something you don't need any real artistic motor skills for, because you will do all of this with mouse by manipulating objects on fairly abstract level. But there's a lot of intricate detail and materials and rendering will also take quite some time and experience, even though I don't see anything tricky like non-standard NPR shaders or whatever. If you try really hard pretty sure you can learn all you need to do this in few months (maybe even in few weeks tbqh), but it doesn't mean you will be able to do this in few days. I would expect this project to take two weeks or more on basic-average level. Doing the casette alone is already quite a project on its own. Ofc if textures/materials are sourced from elsewhere it makes it easier.

t. cg newbie of little less than 6 months

Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 05:12:07 UTC No. 993593

>>992993
>preparing CAD for photorealistic 3D
thanks for the PTSD anon

Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 08:23:49 UTC No. 993613

>>993160
>>993172
>>993510
Real life models have imperfections that CAD doesn't address. A plastic injection molded object is different from the CAD model depending on the cooling cycle, the material used, the postprocessing etc. Things like large flat surfaces becoming progressively wobbly the further from the injection point they are, parting lines, etc. if you really really want that lifelike look you'll have to do it with polymodeling. And that's not even taking into account things like abrasion smoothing or other wear that comes with the object's age.

Also, if you're modeling for games, objects usually require different bevel radii than IRL.

Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 08:42:00 UTC No. 993616

>>993172
>>993613
> CAD is great for manmade objects and hard-surface models like the OP image, it's entirely useless for character models or organics. The reverse is true of poly modeling.
> if you really really want that lifelike look you'll have to do it with polymodeling. And that's not even taking into account things like abrasion smoothing or other wear that comes with the object's age.
Omg, I always thought polymodeling is manually manipulating vertices/edges/faces in edit mode.
But it sounds like you're talking about sculpting, because that's how you do complex organic shapes or add lifelike detail.

Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 08:52:41 UTC No. 993617

>>993613
>Real life models have imperfections that CAD doesn't address
Yes but Substance will get you there. I think sculpting your imperfections one by one in poly is a massive loss of time. This was made in plasticity for instance.

Anonymous at Thu, 29 Aug 2024 10:27:11 UTC No. 993620

>>993617
> sculpting your imperfections one by one in poly is a massive loss of time
You can use alphas or even modifiers in some cases. I also think a lot of those "imperfections" can be done as textures though.

Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:06:20 UTC No. 993710

>>993613
if you're modelling imperfections in injection-molded plastic you're an absolute retard, all of that is just done with materials and texturing
you cannot seriously think dragging vertices around to model scuffs in plastic is a reasonable idea

Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:21:46 UTC No. 993714

Hot take: sculpting fine detail like every scratch, pore and fine wrinkle is only done because Zbrush allows you to do it
In a world without Zbrush that would be done with normal map texturing

Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 12:20:11 UTC No. 993719

>>993714
everyone in this thread is an african employed "3d artist" living in mozambique

Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 12:23:26 UTC No. 993720

>>993719
taught by blender guru

Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 12:46:20 UTC No. 993723

>>993714
Sculpting these details gives you more control, more variety, more interesting surfaces, works properly procedural masks instead of hacky solutions. Doing all of that after the fact also means your normal textures will be projected over the lowpoly mesh with no respect to baked creases&cavities resulting in a flat unnatural look

Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:07:40 UTC No. 993726

>>992993
Gorgeous concept i'd buy that.
I remember loading games in Amstrad CPC 464 with tape as well.

Anonymous at Fri, 30 Aug 2024 15:28:48 UTC No. 993727

>>993723
the only answer in the thread which is not from an african "3d artist" living in mozambique

Anonymous at Sat, 31 Aug 2024 06:22:46 UTC No. 993777

>>993710
I'm not modeling scuffs in plastic you idiot. Plastic injection molded parts are visibly different in shape to the CAD model they are based on.

Anonymous at Mon, 2 Sep 2024 22:24:06 UTC No. 994103

>>993777
if you're injection molding dollar store shit from china maybe

Anonymous at Sat, 7 Sep 2024 15:33:01 UTC No. 994599

>>993008
This is extremely easy to make with Blender

Anonymous at Tue, 10 Sep 2024 08:12:01 UTC No. 994882

>>992993
Literally after finishing the donut course

Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sep 2024 00:06:14 UTC No. 995128

>>992993
6-12 months depending how fast you learn.

Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sep 2024 02:55:33 UTC No. 995132

I'm scared to start learning

Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sep 2024 04:35:53 UTC No. 995136

>>995132
Just dive in bro.
You don't have to learn everything about everything all at once.

Anonymous at Fri, 13 Sep 2024 05:28:11 UTC No. 995137

>>995132
I'm learning too bro dw just start with baby steps and lets git gud

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Sep 2024 10:54:41 UTC No. 996001

>>993008
>>993160
>>993172
Oh look it is the CAD schizo.
Stop listening to this retard daily reminder that CAD fag can not model even the most basic things even in CAD.

Using CAD is retarded you do not need that le perfect curve that is at this angle and has 0.00000001mm perfection.

You do not need this shit and CAD from my own reserch is retarded self torture. I have seen some cad guy be proud of doing something in cad that is dificult however less then trivial in blender.

My advice anon learn blender, only the youtube learning blender community is useless cancer that will teach you nothing. So learn how to use blender then watch tutorials for comercial software and use these skils to model in blender. It is the heepest+legal option however takes time.

Anonymous at Sat, 21 Sep 2024 11:08:49 UTC No. 996004

>>995132
Just do it. You're in a way better place than people 20 years ago were, there's so many tutorials about everything. You don't have to find the perfect, most efficient order in which you learn different aspects, just start with something and you'll figure it out. At first it's a bit disheartening when your models don't turn out as you had them pictured in your mind, but a) it gets way better, fast, and b) no one's models turn out 100% like they wanted to. No one's.

Anonymous at Mon, 23 Sep 2024 21:07:09 UTC No. 996218

Damn I should have read this thread years ago.
Here's me starting off in CAD, moving it to zbrush if I need to, and then taking it into blender for the low poly.
Didn't realise that you can only do one, and that everyone who does the one you don't do is an idiot.

Anonymous at Fri, 4 Oct 2024 11:16:35 UTC No. 997297

this board sucks but if u want some true advice have u considered using hard ops/boxcutter, it's a nifty tool that helps with adding details to ur models kthxbye

Anonymous at Fri, 4 Oct 2024 20:30:26 UTC No. 997330

>>996001
Who made this again?

Anonymous at Sun, 6 Oct 2024 10:13:16 UTC No. 997465

>>996001
We are no going to use your software for kids, let the grown up talk and go play with your toys blender fag

Anonymous at Mon, 7 Oct 2024 05:10:30 UTC No. 997575

>>997330
K.A. Kim.

Anonymous at Tue, 8 Oct 2024 09:36:04 UTC No. 997716

>>993008
>>992993
CAD is useful if you're actually trying to produce that case and need to find measurements/interference/tolerances
It'll be easier through poly modeling because with poly you won't be fighting with all the dimensions and constraints.

Modeling most of this shouldn't be hard. It's just extrudes, loop cuts, etc.
Rendering is a bit more tricky.

Anonymous at Wed, 16 Oct 2024 08:20:54 UTC No. 998538

Few months maybe