Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:28:35 UTC No. 15853005

>>15853002
FIXITFIXITFIXIT

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:29:34 UTC No. 15853006

>>15853002
This motor damage rumor has been brought to you by AA

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:31:49 UTC No. 15853010

The tonteen continues... 14/55 now.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:34:09 UTC No. 15853012

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:43:34 UTC No. 15853019

>destacked

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:49:33 UTC No. 15853027

>>15852893
It's 25% of the federal budget, not the GDP
Still a disaster of course

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 08:49:49 UTC No. 15853028

I'm so tired...
I wish that fish and wildlife didn't exist

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 09:04:15 UTC No. 15853048

Name this band

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 09:08:12 UTC No. 15853051

>>15853027
You will mint ze coin

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 09:09:18 UTC No. 15853053

>>15853048
72 virgins

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 09:11:11 UTC No. 15853057

>>15853048
The Boca Chica Boys and the E O D

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 09:19:10 UTC No. 15853071

>>15853048
RAGE against the machine

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 09:19:50 UTC No. 15853074

>>15853048
Manual Launch Abort

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 09:51:37 UTC No. 15853110

shit my pants

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 09:53:02 UTC No. 15853111

https://youtube.com/shorts/5X1PMI0Kh6g
Did you see this??

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 09:53:11 UTC No. 15853113

>>15853048
Bomb Squad

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 09:53:27 UTC No. 15853115

>>15853048
The Beetles

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 10:04:12 UTC No. 15853122

>>15853048
Starship

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 10:10:06 UTC No. 15853125

>>15853002
IT'S OVER

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 10:11:30 UTC No. 15853127

LMao this hot stage ring is going to kill someone. stop this charade NOW

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 10:50:59 UTC No. 15853179

You have to pay attention to the phrasing of the post. Pending FINAL regulatory approval. In comparison, the previous post simply said "pending regulatory approval": https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1720523323212492904?t=XkhX2ixyHcCCnt4pA4BHsA&s=19

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 10:58:07 UTC No. 15853193

>>15853002
>>15853006
>>15853048
When are we leaving this planet bros? How much longer? I'm tired of all the delays I want to leave already

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 10:59:28 UTC No. 15853195

>>15853193
destroy the fws and the faa, then you will be able to leave

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:02:36 UTC No. 15853201

>>15853193
We?

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:03:44 UTC No. 15853203

>>15853115
simple, but works on several levels

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:07:29 UTC No. 15853211

>>15853048
hot staging is such a fucing stupid idea. 100% chance it rips the stage apart.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:08:51 UTC No. 15853215

>>15853211
That's a bit wordy for a band name

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:15:11 UTC No. 15853229

>>15853115
they're called T.B.D

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:19:33 UTC No. 15853239

>>15853211
hot staging is such a fucing stupid idea. 100% chance it rips the stage apart.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:38:02 UTC No. 15853269

>>15853179
>We can go like right now as soon as mom tells me I can
This is pathetic lol

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:41:49 UTC No. 15853272

>>15853269
unfortunately spacex doesn't have it's own private military yet, so they have to obey the man.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:45:12 UTC No. 15853276

>>15853211
>>15853215
The Hot Stages

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 11:48:37 UTC No. 15853283

TURN ON TWITTER NOW

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:00:30 UTC No. 15853294

Approximate Starship launch date:

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:21:41 UTC No. 15853315

So the expected timeline for next week goes like this :

-Monday: License approved
-Tuesday : re-stack
-Wed : Fuel and water trucks starts coming
-Thursday : more trucks
-Friday : Launch

Am i right ?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:23:11 UTC No. 15853318

>>15853315
wrong
stack
destack
stack
destack
stack
destack
stack
destack
gov shutdown

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:26:47 UTC No. 15853327

>>15853010
>tonteen
what the fuck kind of word even is this?
also did you actually use black text on black in that spreadsheet?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:27:35 UTC No. 15853331

>>15853318
yeah , im a bit scared too. After Nov 17th , gov start to slow down a lot. If there is no license this week, that would be very bad news .

With the license in hand , gov doesn't matter, they can launch whenever they want.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:31:48 UTC No. 15853338

>>15853327
He misspelled the word tontine.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:31:51 UTC No. 15853339

>>15853327
next you'll tell me that you don't know what a baker's dozen is.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:32:33 UTC No. 15853342

>>15853331
this shutdown is going to last months if not until the elections
going to be rough

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:33:07 UTC No. 15853346

>>15853342
If only it would.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:35:47 UTC No. 15853353

>>15853283
I reading the biography about elon and this is honestly what he looks like 99% of the time, baby raging over something totally irrelevant and causing problems for everyone

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:36:48 UTC No. 15853354

>>15853342
>It's another /pol/ gets excited for a nothing-burger episode
It's literally a re-run from last month and you still fall for it.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:39:15 UTC No. 15853358

>>15853354
the speaker got booted for letting the shutdown stop
the new guy is fucking nuts

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:47:43 UTC No. 15853367

>>15853211
hot staging is such a fucing stupid idea. 100% chance it rips the stage apart.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:54:58 UTC No. 15853375

>>15853338
>>15853339

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:55:18 UTC No. 15853376

>>15853294
17th

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 12:56:31 UTC No. 15853378

>>15853367
hot wheels is such a fucing stupid idea. 100% chance it rips the track apart.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:01:50 UTC No. 15853383

>>15853193
Only over the dead body of the fish agency

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:02:33 UTC No. 15853384

>>15853378
hot wings is such a fucing stupid idea. 100% chance it rips the tongue apart

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:02:46 UTC No. 15853386

>>15853294
two weeks

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:03:25 UTC No. 15853390

>>15853211
>>15853215
>>15853276
>>15853367
>>15853378
>I have an idea for a reusable rocket, let me LIGHT ENGINES on its roof hundreds of times and nothing will go wrong

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:04:38 UTC No. 15853394

to prove that hot staging will work how about they static fire the ship on top of the booster down here on earth... oh wait. they never did that because they knpow it wont work

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:06:10 UTC No. 15853396

>>15853384
hot pockets is such a fucing stupid idea. 100% chance it rips the oven apart.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:56:26 UTC No. 15853440

>>15853396
hot keys is such a fucing stupid idea. 100% change it rips the keyboard apart

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 13:59:43 UTC No. 15853442

>>15853384
hot heads is such a fucing stupid idea. 100% chance it rips the plane apart.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:00:12 UTC No. 15853443

>>15853390
its easy to remove, who cares if you have to remove it every 10 flights
still vastly better than what is on offer now and you could probably come up with some material that holds up if steel isn't enough

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:05:41 UTC No. 15853450

>>15853211
hot mail is such a fucking stupid idea. 100% chance it rips the oven apart.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:07:55 UTC No. 15853453

when the booster explodes at stage seperation i will remind y'all of this.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:12:06 UTC No. 15853460

>>15853450
>>15853442
>>15853440
>>15853396
>>15853378

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:18:27 UTC No. 15853466

prick

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:28:35 UTC No. 15853473

>>15853440
hot tub time machine is such a fucing stupid idea. 100% chance it rips a hole in the time-space continuum

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:42:11 UTC No. 15853489

It's not funny

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 14:58:27 UTC No. 15853505

>>15853012

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:02:52 UTC No. 15853514

>>15853489
It's funny

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:15:21 UTC No. 15853523

>>15853514
I would call it spam, although I guess this general doesn't have anything else to do right now.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:16:28 UTC No. 15853524

>>15853006
>flap motor
The part is just an electric motor, but the question is how easy it is to get into that part?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:19:50 UTC No. 15853526

>>15853524
it's not that easy

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:23:31 UTC No. 15853528

>>15853526
THEY HAVE TO FUCKING DISASSEMBLE THE ENTIRE SHIP RING BY RING AAAAAHHHH

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:24:55 UTC No. 15853533

this just in: tiles don't work, they need to go back to active cooling. Scrap everything and start over.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:25:09 UTC No. 15853535

>Dearmoon about to launch a short time after Artemis 3, so the starship is already prepared
>Some unidentified sattelite debris crashes into SLS right before crew loading
>Hmm what other moon orbit capable rogget can the astros for this important national mission use? Which one are they trained for?
>Well I guess the youtubers could give away their rocket eh?
>All starship moon landing occurs
Come on SpaceX just do a little unexpected attitude adjustment on a starpink

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:26:03 UTC No. 15853537

>>15853526
>>15853528
>remove flap
>maybe remove cladding around it
>boom

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:33:21 UTC No. 15853546

>>15853535
dearmoon is a starship version of artemis 1. It doesn't have the landing legs or mini-bar.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:39:13 UTC No. 15853551

>>15853546
orbital corndog

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:46:01 UTC No. 15853557

>>15853546
>design forces you to carry your entire hydrogen tank all the way up to orbit with you, defeating the point of staging
>well what do we do with it now that it's in orbit, turn it into a space station, fuel depot?
>no just put it on an ellipticl orbit that intersects with the atmosphere so it goes back down again

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:48:21 UTC No. 15853562

>>15853557
Just imagine 130+ big orange tanks stuck together in a massive orbital shipyard. You could do anything with that.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:51:09 UTC No. 15853563

>>15853562
how do you stick them together, how do you make a ship like that? It would be like launching huge iss sections without anything actually in them: you still need to launch the tons of equipment that you need to actually make them functional.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:51:58 UTC No. 15853564

>>15853562
You could de-orbit it into FWS headquarters

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:52:03 UTC No. 15853565

>>15853562
yeah, imagine what could've been...

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:56:37 UTC No. 15853570

>>15853563
just a bunch of big ass cable ties. it’s just spaceflight, its not that hard.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:59:59 UTC No. 15853573

I'm glad that spacenews always tells me whenever the space force conducts a successful pork operation.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:00:46 UTC No. 15853574

We can still make the Q4 2024 window if we all pull together as a team.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:02:08 UTC No. 15853577

>>15853533
you didnt even need to tell us that, tiles falling off the bitch before she even launches LMAO
Have SpaceXisters never learnt ANYTHING from shuttle? lmao

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:04:09 UTC No. 15853578

as much as I like Musk Starship is an UTTER DISASTER.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:06:49 UTC No. 15853580

>>15853578
I agree, we need to go all in on SLS now.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:08:43 UTC No. 15853583

>>15853580
One of them is flying and one blows up unpreventably in the mesosphere. Literally 100% failture rate so far

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:16:53 UTC No. 15853592

>>15853546
Duh, but they still have the HLS in orbit since its an Artemis mission. Dock to it, land, go back up and redock, go home on the dearmoon ship.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:17:24 UTC No. 15853594

>>15853592
youre so fucking retarded.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:17:59 UTC No. 15853595

This might be the last time I get to post this since I have a feeling the second launch will be a success.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:20:29 UTC No. 15853598

>>15853594
There is nothing retarded about that its literally just artemis but Starship instead of Orion.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:23:47 UTC No. 15853603

>spacex wants to get the license before the 17th
>finally realize its because the government shutdown is on the 17th
OH NO NO NO

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:28:49 UTC No. 15853609

>>15853563
Launch each shuttle with a truss section, bolt 'em together on orbit and keep lengthening the assembly.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:30:00 UTC No. 15853610

>>15853598
you really think it's that easy? in spaceflight?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:31:11 UTC No. 15853612

>>15853603
>nuspacepeepeepoopoo is finally learning why we say 2024 launch
about damn time

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:32:17 UTC No. 15853613

>>15853603
Why is the government being shut down?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:32:43 UTC No. 15853615

>>15853609
okay, that's sensible. Now you have a bunch of empty H tanks stuck together in LEO. What now?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:34:19 UTC No. 15853618

This guys says that glowfags faked a failure during the Shuttle era to hide their stealth satellite and Zuma supposedly followed the same path.
Do you think it's true?

https://youtu.be/ZV6A74qLiec

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:54:23 UTC No. 15853643

>>15853613
They're running out of money cause they can't agree on a budget.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:01:23 UTC No. 15853651

I'm afraid

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:01:30 UTC No. 15853652

>>15853643
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retarded_time

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:06:41 UTC No. 15853658

I have some bad news :

"Two US Representatives sent a letter on Friday to FWS calling for speeding up their review."

They are still waiting for the FWS approval

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:07:57 UTC No. 15853661

>>15853658
SpaceX may just launch without approval and pay the fine

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:08:05 UTC No. 15853662

All of you should be praying for a licence approval before next friday. Otherwise we may not see a launch in 2023

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:09:09 UTC No. 15853663

>>15853662
you know that prayer doesn't work right

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:09:14 UTC No. 15853664

>>15853658
But what about the sharks?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:09:17 UTC No. 15853665

>>15853662
SN8

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:12:09 UTC No. 15853670

>>15853658
Gonzales is a Republican and Gonzalez is a Democrat, good to see bipartisan support.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:14:22 UTC No. 15853674

This is the full story :

https://www.expressnews.com/business/article/gonzales-starship-letter-18485045.php

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:18:16 UTC No. 15853677

>>15853670
They have zero and I must emphasize ZERO power over FWS

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:27:50 UTC No. 15853689

FWS should take as long as they want to take just to rub Muskrats nose in it.
Hopefully they hype him up for a big annoucnement just to say "now we are STARTING the review, 8 more months required ;)" that would be hilarious.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:30:33 UTC No. 15853694

>>15853677
doesn't congress make the laws at the end of the day? laws can be changed, FWS can be decommissioned

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:31:48 UTC No. 15853697

>>15853689
would be funny if something like that was the trigger for wide spanning reforms in government bureucracies

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:32:05 UTC No. 15853698

>>15853674
>Gonzales, a San Antonio Republican, and Gonzalez, a McAllen Democrat, said regulatory delay “greatly impacts SpaceX’s operations in South Texas” and potentially hurts the region’s economy.
a tale of two congressmen.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:36:54 UTC No. 15853708

It better not launch on the 17th when I'm not home.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:41:04 UTC No. 15853712

>/sfg/ thinks government workers stop working during a shutdown
I knew this place was full of retards

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:42:27 UTC No. 15853713

>>15853048
FTS Overdrive.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:43:30 UTC No. 15853718

>>15853574
ellemayo

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:44:57 UTC No. 15853721

>>15853574
Tgey wont make 2026 or 2028 either. They still wont solve refueling by 2027

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:47:26 UTC No. 15853726

>>15853697
is why >>15853689 probably won't happen. govt entities love their beurocracy but they also don't want to make themselves a target for reforms by being too ridiculous.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:49:07 UTC No. 15853730

>>15853721
>refueling
i will never fucking understand why this is the first thing brought up in a discussion about the difficulties ahead.
of all things, fluids in space are not the most unknown territory, cryogenics might provide some added challenge but it doesn't need new fucking physics or materials science nigga, if we can pup cryo on the ground we can do it in space too.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:56:46 UTC No. 15853745

>>15853730
>he doesnt know that pumping without vapor feed requires gravity
retard alert

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:00:32 UTC No. 15853748

>>15853730
Elon himself didnt expect refueling to be solved for at least two years after orbital flight as the most optimistic timeline.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:00:36 UTC No. 15853749

>>15853745
goodness. if ONLY there was some analogue to gravity that could be used in space. :(

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:01:52 UTC No. 15853752

>>15853749
a starship will never spin you pop sci fanfiction marvel consumer

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:02:29 UTC No. 15853754

>>15853748
source?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:03:15 UTC No. 15853755

>>15853745
>he doesn't know SpaceX is planning to provide g during the propellant transfer process
They won't have "vapor in feed lines" issues.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:03:54 UTC No. 15853756

>>15853712
Nonessential workers do nucaca. FWS license approvers are nonessential.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:04:37 UTC No. 15853757

>>15853756
If they're nonessential, then we can just kill them all.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:05:16 UTC No. 15853758

>>15853752
correct, it will thrust instead.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:05:34 UTC No. 15853759

here at NASA I'm sent home if we shut down.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:06:19 UTC No. 15853762

>>15853754
in here somewhere
https://www.youtube.com/live/y5Aw6WG4Dww?si=x5l5Onyx3_KjUSme

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:06:30 UTC No. 15853763

2024 launch is happening btw, and with that CSI Starbase will have been proven right

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:07:35 UTC No. 15853765

>>15853755
>>15853749
ok so they will use all their fuel (~90%) providing hours of low g for the transfer of 10% of the propellant. Sounds good lmfao

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:07:35 UTC No. 15853766

>>15853758
>he thinks we live in the Expanse
oh my god retard

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:09:08 UTC No. 15853770

>>15853745
>gee, if only we could provide some form of acceleration analogous to gravity in our giant spacecraft
see this is what i mean, feels more like a midwit opinion than anything else.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:09:16 UTC No. 15853771

>>15853763
I'll be proven right too. it would be even funnier of FWS opts not to grant the ok because the deluge would kill too much wildlife. It would be a great wakeup call for musk that he cant desteoy the environment anymore

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:09:37 UTC No. 15853772

>>15853762
i don't believe you

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:10:25 UTC No. 15853774

>>15853327

The idea is to blank out names of second, third, etc flights so that the names are not repeated with multiplicity. Just list each guy by his first flight and then indicate whether he's still kicking or not. Gemini 12 is now the only American oldspace pre-shuttle mission with a complete surviving crew (Lovell and Aldrin).

This second look details the ages of the living, and a few other things. Lovell is the old man of the bunch, while Gibson, one of those lousy mutineers from Skylab 4, is the baby. Note the two empty regions near top left, recently vacated by Borman and Mattingly (haven't re-tooled). I bet Tom Hanks and one or two other movie actor quietly attend Lovell's funeral when it occurs desu. I was unaware of Mattingly's death until I heard of Borman's. This look also assumes that Fred Haise will enjoy his birthday two days from now.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:10:44 UTC No. 15853776

>>15853766
>he thinks we need 1G of acceleration to transfer fuel
lol

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:13:22 UTC No. 15853783

>>15853776
youre an unbeleivable retard.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:14:04 UTC No. 15853784

You dont need any gees, just create a low pressure zone and the fuel will go there

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:15:25 UTC No. 15853788

>>15853762
https://www.youtube.com/live/y5Aw6WG4Dww?si=1Pmt4AR1EN9Xww6b&t=2897

you can search the transkription and it doesn't say that
2 years is with respect to "when will you be able to demonstrate orbital refilling", doesn't say they need two years after first orbital flight anywhere, just two years from that specific interview which was in 2020 November, they were still doing suborbital hop tests at that point, SN15 happened like 7 months later

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:15:31 UTC No. 15853789

Today i will remind them.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:17:21 UTC No. 15853794

>>15853788
>>15853762
so in other words, absolute horseshit
I would expect them to start testing it pretty quickly after the first successful orbital insertion

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:19:25 UTC No. 15853799

>>15853789
kino.
I will be hyped when adults finally get in the righ to tame SpaceX nonsense

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:20:02 UTC No. 15853801

>>15853784
yes, pumps
its that easy

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:21:03 UTC No. 15853806

kill all those who oppose SpaceX (in minecraft)

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:21:56 UTC No. 15853808

>>15853759
Fortunately NASA contractors are unaffected
Or unfortunately? A vacation would be nice

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:22:30 UTC No. 15853810

>>15853801
wait that wont work,think of the vapours

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:23:52 UTC No. 15853812

>>15853788
That's not the timestamp I was talking about you braindead motherfucker. THE WORDS CAME OUT OF ELON'S MOUTH

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:25:00 UTC No. 15853814

>>15853806
No, kill them in real life

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:25:42 UTC No. 15853816

>>15853808
I am a contractor

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:25:49 UTC No. 15853817

>>15853812
give the timestamp

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:26:25 UTC No. 15853819

>>15853814
NSA here, assume the position to be arrested, when will be there soon.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:28:06 UTC No. 15853823

>>15853816
>here at NASA
>I am a contractor
stolen valor

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:30:39 UTC No. 15853827

>>15853788
Take into account Elon time and we get 4 years from today

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:31:26 UTC No. 15853829

>>15853658
Literally typed this up in MS Word.
Nothing of the sort happened, troll harder.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:31:48 UTC No. 15853830

>>15853819
Im in a stand your ground state, and strongly advise against

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:33:49 UTC No. 15853835

>>15853830
Dont worry, we will plant child porn on your computer and put explosives on your body.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:34:28 UTC No. 15853836

>>15853827
its 2 years from 2020, so 2022
4 years from that would be 2024, which is not bad, i.e. if IFT-2 works and then they launch a few starlink payloads before doing orbital refilling tests, then the could demonstrate it within 6 months of showing a succesful orbit like I said

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:36:17 UTC No. 15853841

https://twitter.com/NASA_SLS/status/1723732675683348685

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:36:26 UTC No. 15853842

>>15853835
Dont need your help

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:37:41 UTC No. 15853847

>>15853823
that's how it is at wstf, 10:1. The company keeps changing, the NASA contract stays the same. Still get a NASA email, phone number, etc.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:38:21 UTC No. 15853848

>>15853836
Completely fucking delusional

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:38:31 UTC No. 15853849

>>15853841
is it just me or are there a lot of people just standing/hanging around?
like way more people than would need to be there

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:39:33 UTC No. 15853853

>>15853848
orbital refilling is going to be piss easy

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:39:42 UTC No. 15853854

>>15853841
HLS starship has no bent metal. SLS has 3 ships already

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:40:55 UTC No. 15853857

>>15853853
You better pray God changes the laws of physics, because otherwise Starship doesn't work as a concept

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:41:09 UTC No. 15853858

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:42:43 UTC No. 15853861

>>15853857
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retardation_time

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:43:37 UTC No. 15853863

>>15853853

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:45:48 UTC No. 15853866

>>15853836
>>15853853
That video was back when they were planning ass2ass. they discarded that very early on. It will not use spinning or G force. it will be extremely difficult

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:47:57 UTC No. 15853873

>>15853812
didn't think so
nigger

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:48:30 UTC No. 15853875

>>15853849
One redundant person per redundant o-ring

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:48:58 UTC No. 15853876

>>15853873
>there it is
Nice argument you racist piece of shit

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:49:07 UTC No. 15853877

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3l87aPWUCk

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:50:07 UTC No. 15853878

>>15853876
lmaoooo

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:51:13 UTC No. 15853881

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pK4Rr0LsMk

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:51:53 UTC No. 15853882

>>15853877
Peter Beck is a profoundly boring person

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:53:01 UTC No. 15853885

crotchety

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:58:43 UTC No. 15853901

Do we like it?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:59:48 UTC No. 15853904

>>15853901
>no more blue balls

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:04:07 UTC No. 15853911

>>15853882
I realized this the second time he showed up on MECO. Boring fucking guy, boring fucking company

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:12:23 UTC No. 15853925

/sci/ made it to the semi finals for this autumn cup >>15851815
We have at least two more games, get in here if you want to see von Braun and Musk play some more

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:24:44 UTC No. 15853936

>>15853694
Without a 2/3 majority in Congress the President can just veto a bill.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:26:22 UTC No. 15853938

>>15853677
If FWS is accountable to none then it must be destroyed.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:35:41 UTC No. 15853957

>>15853911
>>15853882
I always wonder how people like Beck can get venture capital. Young Elon had that unmistakable awkward genius vibe, but Beck just seems like an office dullard. He's like any middle manager at a fast food chain.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:47:02 UTC No. 15853980

>>15853882
Like Elon Musk. With one hundredth of the results.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:51:12 UTC No. 15853986

>>15853957
Raising venture money isn't as hard as you might think

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:59:51 UTC No. 15853994

>>15853986
if its so easy cant i just make a vaporware company and defraud my investors tomorrow?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:00:41 UTC No. 15853996

>>15853994
yes, just look at virgin orbit

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:04:58 UTC No. 15854005

>>15853994
Plenty of examples of this

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:05:56 UTC No. 15854006

>>15853882
>>15853911
>>15853957
>>15853980
It's starting!!!

Barkun at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:10:21 UTC No. 15854009

>>15854006
Gegi.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:11:12 UTC No. 15854012

Golem moment.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:12:32 UTC No. 15854014

I'm about to take off goys. Any last words?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:13:11 UTC No. 15854015

This guy is the CEO of IVO Ltd. who made the QI thruster. Testing in a few weeks.

https://nitter.net/RaMansell/status/1723444732842385701

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:14:03 UTC No. 15854016

>>15854014
god speed

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:15:24 UTC No. 15854018

This shit is going with me to the Moon.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:16:09 UTC No. 15854021

>>15853765
>no it HAS to be linear, it can't be rotation >:(

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:16:37 UTC No. 15854022

Moderators are paid glowniggers.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:17:41 UTC No. 15854023

Remember the good times jan?

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:18:58 UTC No. 15854025

Remember the good times goys, cherish them as if they were the last moments.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:22:21 UTC No. 15854033

>>15854012
>>15854014
>>15854018
>>15854022
>>15854023
>>15854025
>>>/v/

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:27:02 UTC No. 15854036

Guess I can squeeze in one more.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:29:07 UTC No. 15854040

Oh no, the jannie is having dinner and is away

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:31:45 UTC No. 15854041

What's going on here?

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:32:07 UTC No. 15854043

EAT NIGGER DICK YOU FUCKING WORTHLESS GLOWNIGGER

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:33:21 UTC No. 15854045

ONE NIGGER DICK, ONE MOUTH

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:33:36 UTC No. 15854046

>>15854015
just two more weeks until it's two more weeks

Barkun at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:35:37 UTC No. 15854047

>>15854046

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:36:20 UTC No. 15854050

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:37:49 UTC No. 15854054

lol why did this schizo go ballistic?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:38:12 UTC No. 15854055

>>15853901
It would look pretty neat in the 80s
Also where is this from? Just the HLS stuff or was there a presentation/announcement recently?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:38:26 UTC No. 15854056

>>15854054
isn't it the flat earther?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:39:19 UTC No. 15854057

>>15854047
Ban this faggot too

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:39:49 UTC No. 15854059

idk it's pretty entertaining, whatever has gotten him in this state apparently made him extremely mad so that's hilarious.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:40:04 UTC No. 15854060

cant you just shit up the catalog instead

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:40:51 UTC No. 15854062

>>15854056
probably, uses the same /pol/ schizo lingo

Barkun at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:41:35 UTC No. 15854063

>>15854057
Not as mad as this fag.

B A R K U N

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:42:08 UTC No. 15854064

>>15854063
Enjoy your vacation

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:42:37 UTC No. 15854065

>>15854060
It's the golems reporting posts. The glowniggers don't really trawl the threads. So for cooperating with the glowniggers you get some shit back you slimy golems.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:44:03 UTC No. 15854069

Just squeezed in one more.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:44:31 UTC No. 15854072

Your monthly /pol/ flerfer sperg out brought to you by unattentive trannitors.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:45:12 UTC No. 15854073

>>15854065
me merely existing causes incredibly seethe in you, and i don't even know who you are.
so that works out in my book, enjoy making people look at pictures of poop, won't make them feel anything other than your impotent rage lmao.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:45:56 UTC No. 15854077

total schizo death

Barkun at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:46:21 UTC No. 15854079

>>15854073

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:47:34 UTC No. 15854081

>>15854072
>>15854073
I'm enjoying myself and I've been through this many times before. The glowniggers are on my ass every day censoring my posts.
Science is the new religion of the golems so it makes sense that this board is so heavily censored.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:49:50 UTC No. 15854084

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:49:51 UTC No. 15854085

>>15854065
I havent reported anything you dumb retard

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:50:15 UTC No. 15854086

>>15854081
i don't even use the rest of this shithole board lmao, it's mostly unscientific drivel and people looking for affirmation of their intelligence.

i don't know what drama you've gotten yourself into, but with how you're acting i suggest you seek medication, it's not healthy chasing after ghosts anon.

P.S
glowniggers love retards like you, you're the perfect scapegoat/strawman to scare normalfags away from shit that glows, so they're probably thankful that you're doing this.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:51:13 UTC No. 15854090

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:51:36 UTC No. 15854093

>>15854081
I'm in your walls. I'll keep censoring you. Subscribe to X premium now for free speech

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:52:36 UTC No. 15854096

>>15854063
>>15854079
Dont forget to give this faggot a report while youre dealing with the scat sperg.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:52:57 UTC No. 15854097

>>15854085
>>15854086
See you tomorrow.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:53:59 UTC No. 15854100

NOT SO FAST

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:54:18 UTC No. 15854101

>>15854097
>i-i'll be a lolcow tomorrow too!!!
i expected nothing less
enjoy kissing my shoes for attention anon, clearly you didn't get enough from your family.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:54:23 UTC No. 15854102

>>15854055
It's a mock-up they rolled out for Bill Nelson's visit
https://twitter.com/SenBillNelson/status/1717904201617908137

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:54:39 UTC No. 15854105

I wonder what the poop left on the moon is like now desu

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:54:40 UTC No. 15854106

Well this thread is done.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:55:26 UTC No. 15854108

>>15854062
It is the flerfer he got mad yesterday because someone said to report him and his dumb messages so he went for a pre-emptive strike and has just been doing the exact same routine of spamming his scat folder and going to another IP. This happens every month.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:56:13 UTC No. 15854109

post mars weather https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB3QIEkNJgs

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:56:26 UTC No. 15854110

>>15854106
Jannies literally just cleaned all his posts out what do you mean its done.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:57:24 UTC No. 15854112

>>15854110
my work here is done

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:57:38 UTC No. 15854113

>>15854109

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:57:54 UTC No. 15854114

Hey trannitors, you forgot to clean out the Barkun avatarfagging spambot.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:58:32 UTC No. 15854116

>>15854105
better than this thread that's for sure

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 20:58:59 UTC No. 15854118

>>15854108
lol, just mock him and tug at his predictable insecurities, failures like him deserve nothing but more bullying.
don't expect reactions either, he'll keep it to himself but he'll feel it, you don't turn this schizophrenic by having thick skin.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:00:11 UTC No. 15854122

>>15854112
but nothing happened, the thread is still here. you didn't accomplish anything and people have already forgotten about you.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:00:21 UTC No. 15854123

>>15854108
It's time to strike back against the sciencegolems. You had the whole establishment behind you for decades now.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:00:52 UTC No. 15854124

>>15854041
this is what peak performance looks like

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:02:03 UTC No. 15854127

>>15854123
Yes I'm sure you posting your scat porn in this random thread on 4chan will surely BTFO the CIA for their coverup of your worldwide conspiracy theory apparantly having everyone BUT your movement being the correct ones.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:02:08 UTC No. 15854128

>>15854122
lmao

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:03:11 UTC No. 15854129

>>15853925
>Elon doesn't have a goalhorn
Is there an appropriate WE ARE GOING song yet

Barkun at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:03:11 UTC No. 15854130

>>15854114
And what's the difference between scat and this?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:03:14 UTC No. 15854131

>>15854124
That fat autist cucked johnny depp if you believe the rumors.

Barkun at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:04:12 UTC No. 15854133

>>15854130
Oh yeah. The conspiracy behind you. Should have known.

Get BWNED kid.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:04:36 UTC No. 15854134

>>15854133
Based bot

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:04:40 UTC No. 15854135

>>15853801
>pumps

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:04:58 UTC No. 15854137

Good morning friends.
SpaceX stream
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1OdJrjaagaVJX

Clear stream issues ;_;
https://twitter.com/clearusui/status/1723808416492057018

Clear live(maybe) for O3b mPOWER 5 & 6 Mission!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZwyAdg1cxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZwyAdg1cxE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZwyAdg1cxE

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:05:12 UTC No. 15854140

>>15854134
Kys

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:05:49 UTC No. 15854142

>>15854127
It's just not possible with the rampant censorship but at least there is some enjoyment shitting on golems and their beloved science™

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:06:16 UTC No. 15854144

>>15854137
2 BINGS

SpaceX is targeting Sunday, November 12 for a Falcon 9 launch of the SES O3b mPOWER mission to medium-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida. The 89-minute launch window opens at 4:08 p.m. ET. If needed, a backup opportunity is available Monday, November 13 with the same window.

A live webcast of this mission will begin on X @SpaceX about 15 minutes prior to liftoff. Watch live.

This is the ninth flight of the first stage booster supporting this mission, which previously launched CRS-26, OneWeb Launch 16, Intelsat IS-40e, and five Starlink missions. Following stage separation, the first stage will land on the A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship, which will be stationed in the Atlantic Ocean.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:06:43 UTC No. 15854145

>>15854142
>enter room
>everyone laughs at you
>enjoy this
did your dad hit you with a belt?

Barkun at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:06:43 UTC No. 15854146

>>15854140
gud.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:06:45 UTC No. 15854147

>>15854041

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:07:31 UTC No. 15854148

>>15854147

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:07:43 UTC No. 15854149

all systems go

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:07:45 UTC No. 15854150

>>15854137
Thank you thank you THANK YOU

Barkun at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:08:29 UTC No. 15854152

You are not insignificant. The smallest impulse creates quadrillions of further impulses.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:08:37 UTC No. 15854153

Décollage!

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:08:39 UTC No. 15854154

Amazing

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:08:44 UTC No. 15854155

LAUNCH

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:09:10 UTC No. 15854156

>>15854140
You just got your shit kicked in retard. say something

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:09:15 UTC No. 15854157

SpaceX launches ninth dedicated rideshare mission
--
https://spacenews.com/spacex-launches-ninth-dedicated-rideshare-mission/
> WASHINGTON — SpaceX launched more than 100 satellites in the ninth in a series of dedicated smallsat rideshare missions Nov. 11, the latest flight in a program that has generated both delight and disdain across the commercial space industry.
> Transporter-9 carried 90 payloads deployed over the course of half an hour, starting about 55 minutes after liftoff, although confirmations of a successful deployment were initially missing for several of the satellites. Those payloads included several orbital transfer vehicles that will later deploy their satellites, bringing the total satellites on the launch to more than 110.
> The customer with the most payloads on Transporter-9 was Planet. The company had 36 of its Dove imaging cubesats, collectively called Flock 4Q, on the launch. It also flew Pelican-1, a tech demo satellite for its future Pelican and Tanager high-resolution and hyperspectral imaging satellites.
> Other satellite constellation operators that flew satellites on Transporter-9 include Spire, which operates a constellation to collect weather and vessel tracking data, as well as synthetic aperture radar imaging companies Iceye and Umbra. Spire’s set of satellites included three satellites for GHGSat to monitor greenhouse gas satellites, one of which is the first commercial satellite for tracking carbon dioxide emissions.
> D-Orbit, another major user of Transporter missions, flew another of its ION tugs on Transporter-9. Two new orbital transfer vehicle developers, Exotrail and Impulse Space, flew their first tugs, spacevan-001 and Impulse-1, on the mission.
> “I can’t understate what a critical part of the NewSpace industry Transporter missions are,” remarked Todd Master, chief operating officer of Umbra, on social media. “There are entire businesses that are enabled by this that could not have existed 5 years ago.”

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:09:28 UTC No. 15854158

Max-Qute!

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:09:31 UTC No. 15854159

it's going to explode

Barkun at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:09:33 UTC No. 15854160

>>15854155
Mouf.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:10:01 UTC No. 15854161

>>15854148
basking in the sheer seethe of normalfags that make images like this and schizophrenics like barkun sperging out is like photosynthesis to me.
all these lower lifeforms around me, and only i have figured out the formula to not being in a self-induced state of torturous babyrage.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:10:16 UTC No. 15854162

>>15854142
this engineering you retard
did you finish middle school?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:11:19 UTC No. 15854164

>>15854145
You write like a pathetic worm that you are. You get nothing from me, scram.

Barkun at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:11:42 UTC No. 15854165

>>15854161
Ihadyou.mp3

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:11:55 UTC No. 15854166

>>15854154
nice

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:12:08 UTC No. 15854167

>>15854055
>>15854102
To add this is just a cargo lander
https://www.blueorigin.com/blue-moon/mark-1

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:12:25 UTC No. 15854168

F9 sure is launching a lot

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:12:56 UTC No. 15854169

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1723807184931410185

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:13:07 UTC No. 15854170

Holy fucking kino, they got stage sep from the ground pretty clearly.

Barkun at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:13:34 UTC No. 15854172

Starship will fail because the head doesn't spin. It's too static.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:14:21 UTC No. 15854173

>>15854165
>>15854160
>>15854152
>>15854146
>>15854133
>>15854130
Clean it up tranjan.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:14:47 UTC No. 15854174

check my fumo collection on this stream
https://discord.gg/TZe2qbb6

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:15:27 UTC No. 15854175

Launch approval from the Fish and Wildlife Service just flew over my house!

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:15:33 UTC No. 15854176

>>15854168
Thank you SpaceX for keeping America dominant in tonnage to orbit

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:16:25 UTC No. 15854179

>>15854176
*megagramage

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:17:13 UTC No. 15854180

Touchdown!

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:17:20 UTC No. 15854181

another one

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:17:47 UTC No. 15854183

245th recovery

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:20:07 UTC No. 15854185

>>15854102
Good god, bill genuinely looks like a corpse
Like a mortician got him all prepped and in the casket for the family viewing, then he just climbed out and went to the office
Also how much lift do you think is in Jeff's' boots beyond the heels?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:21:17 UTC No. 15854189

>>15854154
Sounds like a personal issue. Was fine for me (non-premium user btw).

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:22:39 UTC No. 15854190

>>15853842
Too old

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:22:54 UTC No. 15854191

>>15854041
Imagine the fucking lung capacity. Sure, there's fat, but you can tell from the structure that the man's ribcage volume is still on par with the average American living room.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:23:57 UTC No. 15854194

>>15854129
>goalhorn
I have a goal horn for Wernher since a lot of people voted for him to be a medal, even though he fell short on the poll.
>appropriate WE ARE GOING song yet
If one exists I can add it to the roster poll before winter

Also the semifinal against /ck/ is about to start, if /sci/ wins we go onto the finals, if not the third place match

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:25:27 UTC No. 15854196

>>15854176
I wonder if they'll manage to shrink the rest of the global share to single digits just with F9 or if they'll need starship for that

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:26:26 UTC No. 15854198

>>15854015
I honestly wish them luck. I hope their drive works.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:32:01 UTC No. 15854209

Forgot to repost these

How far will Starship go?
https://strawpoll.com/eJnvvwVbGnv

How many Super Heavy engines fail?
https://strawpoll.com/jVyG8mxekn7

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:33:08 UTC No. 15854211

>>15854209

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:34:09 UTC No. 15854212

>>15854211

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:34:41 UTC No. 15854213

>>15854148
I hate normgroids so much it's unreal

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:35:28 UTC No. 15854214

>>15854164
but you're still giving me more seethe right now, look at you, bubbling like a little vulcano, ready to spill over again with just one response.
you gonna cry little man?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:39:50 UTC No. 15854219

>>15854194
how about "Take to the Sky" by Van Canto?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:48:54 UTC No. 15854238

>>15854129

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:52:44 UTC No. 15854243

Good night everyone , big day tomorrow. Lets hope for the licence to drop

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:58:45 UTC No. 15854257

>>15854198
I do too, not just for the technical benefits but because it will make a bunch of people really mad.
>China will be shidding and farding everywhere if this works because DARPA will start migrating the DoD's satellites to QI propulsion from propellant limited thrusters
>all the hard soi-fi dweebs who spent 50 years shouting NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T -DO- THAT! will get BTFO
>Astra's one profitable business unit will be obsolete unless they can buy a license from IVO (which has a pastor for a CEO) or Mike "Chud" McCulloch, resulting in total BLM ego death
>swapping out the Hall thrusters for QI thrusters on Gateway PPE would turn Gateway HALO+PPE into an interplanetary exploration cruiser rather than a space station, which would make President Donald Trump (pbuh) the founder of IRL Starfleet by creating Artemis

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 21:59:33 UTC No. 15854262

>>15854243
Nothing ever happens

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:00:09 UTC No. 15854264

>>15854157
>Dirty faring
Does SpaceX still recover fairing?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:00:59 UTC No. 15854267

>>15854264
Yes, they just fish them out of the water rather than net catches.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:01:31 UTC No. 15854271

>>15854243
Shut your fucking mouth pothead.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:02:32 UTC No. 15854274

>>15854267
How do they get it to land slowly enough to not sustain damage? Just parachutes?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:05:24 UTC No. 15854278

>>15854274
Parachutes and generally being shaped like an aeroshell.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:11:12 UTC No. 15854287

>>15854015
They actually launched something, wow

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:14:07 UTC No. 15854300

>>15854238
FUCK OFFF I DONT WANT TO REMEMBER THIS AT ALL
KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:15:12 UTC No. 15854304

>>15854274
Parachutes plus thrusters to get it to re-enter with the inner edge facing up

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:18:43 UTC No. 15854312

>>15854219
Suggestion taken, just one thing should this be anthem, goal horn, alt horn, or (alt) victory anthem
And If its a goal horn for what player?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:33:42 UTC No. 15854334

>>15854312
I was thinking Elon's horn. Other iconic music would be the track they used for the Falcon 1 flight 4 (first success: Crystal Method - High Roller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWtfE1GHNjg).
Could use something from Test Shot Starfish, but most of it is too mellow.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:35:11 UTC No. 15854338

>>15853848
stupid frogposter

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:37:23 UTC No. 15854342

>>15854334
oooh, another good one for one of the rocket men would be "Go" by Public Service Broadcasting

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:37:27 UTC No. 15854343

>>15854338
Tell us more

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:41:45 UTC No. 15854354

>>15854342
Love that one.
Also might be too on the nose but I don't care, I like this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73pQbppSWHk

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:47:18 UTC No. 15854365

>>15853376
Even after the flap motor incident?

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:48:42 UTC No. 15854375

>>15853748
>Elon himself didnt expect refueling to be solved for at least two years after orbital flight as the most optimistic timeline.
This directly disagrees with what Elon said. He said the first cargo ships would land in 2020.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:49:02 UTC No. 15854377

>>15854365
The motor doesn't matter it can be replaced and the flaps barely do anything during IFT2 so it doesn't matter even if they break off the rocket completely

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:52:06 UTC No. 15854387

Can you at least post real pepes instead of this twitch emoji cringe shit

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:52:36 UTC No. 15854389

>>15854375
It appears he is off by about 12 years. yikes

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 22:59:56 UTC No. 15854416

I do not understand the Oberth effect meme

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:01:50 UTC No. 15854422

>>15854387
NUCACAS ACTUALLY THINK THESE ARE 'TWITCH EMOTES' LIKE THEY CAME FROM THERE KEEEEEK GO BACK TO YOUR ZOOMER RETARD STREAMER DISCORD YWNGTS

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:04:46 UTC No. 15854431

>>15854416
Point B because that where it's going fastest. And power is V*F. Still not intuitive

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:05:09 UTC No. 15854432

>>15854387
>cant even name the frog variant he doesnt like
hello newfag. you must be 18 or older to post here

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:08:28 UTC No. 15854451

>>15854079
this is a good post, thank you for making it

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:11:55 UTC No. 15854464

>>15854416
It's because energy is V^2

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:13:09 UTC No. 15854469

>>15854451
its a spambot if you didnt know. not even joking
>>15854432
just realized i've been saving some of my files with the same naming schemes that they came from... gonna have to go through my folder and rename some now.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:15:45 UTC No. 15854476

>>15854469
you posts are consistently some of the lowest quality

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:16:18 UTC No. 15854479

>>15854416
It's conservation of momentum. The rocket is going faster relative to the planet so v0 is faster, which means you get more dKE for a given fixed dV. The extra energy is balanced by the propellant stealing a tiny bit of rotational energy from the planet as it moves retrograde.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:21:30 UTC No. 15854490

>>15854476
i dont take advice or opinions from offboarders. this is also a frog website so dont know why youre complaining, being in space means you WILL have to cooperate with people you don't like and if you can't do that with people who post frogs then i dont know how you expect to go to mars.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:21:33 UTC No. 15854491

>>15854377
Cope.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:22:42 UTC No. 15854493

>>15854479
But dV is dV right? Shouldn't it all be the same amount of change in velocity no matter where you are?

🗑️ Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:24:45 UTC No. 15854498

>>15854490
>being in space
You are never leaving this flat and stationary plane.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:25:17 UTC No. 15854501

>>15854493
Yes the dV is same regardless where to rocket is fired. The change in energy isn't though. Now in the picture is is asked where the motor should fire to escape with maximum speed.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:26:32 UTC No. 15854502

>>15854498
oh the scat flerfer is back. going to post more of your shit pics or has post nut clarity kicked in yet.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:26:34 UTC No. 15854503

>>15854493
The extra dV happens from gravity as the planet pulls the spacecraft towards periapsis. Burning at periapsis raises orbit. It's an energy transfer from the planet to the spacecraft via
>>15854479
so there's more kinetic energy so the planet steals less velocity in gravity losses.

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:51:06 UTC No. 15854555

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1723848227147935964

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:52:09 UTC No. 15854560

>>15854555

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:53:14 UTC No. 15854564

>>15854560

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:54:16 UTC No. 15854569

>>15854564

Anonymous at Sun, 12 Nov 2023 23:55:19 UTC No. 15854570

>>15854569

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 00:11:07 UTC No. 15854597

we're back is over

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 00:31:53 UTC No. 15854687

FISH
LICENSE
TOMORROW

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 00:39:24 UTC No. 15854702

>>15854687
LICENSE DAY LICENSE DAY

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 00:39:35 UTC No. 15854705

That's it I'm calling in a tip to China that the waters around Boca chica contain rare and delicious fish. There won't be any fish there soon.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 00:41:34 UTC No. 15854708

Drain the ocean.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:03:50 UTC No. 15854756

OI

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:11:18 UTC No. 15854764

Slag.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:15:44 UTC No. 15854773

>>15854705
Shouldve just told them there were wild cats and dogs there instead.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:26:29 UTC No. 15854796

>>15854773
>>/pol/

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:27:13 UTC No. 15854798

>>15854796
fail

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:27:21 UTC No. 15854799

free ocelots and turtles

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:30:09 UTC No. 15854804

>>15854796
Newfag

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:37:11 UTC No. 15854817

>>15854798
>>15854804
keep laughing until starship blows up.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 01:48:05 UTC No. 15854830

>>15854817
why stop laughing if it blows up?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:16:14 UTC No. 15854882

>>15854817
thats when you start laughing

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:17:31 UTC No. 15854887

Zero days without shark tricks

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:18:53 UTC No. 15854888

>>15854887
This made me go "heh!"

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:21:12 UTC No. 15854889

>>15854887
Dolphins are way hotter than sharks

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:26:23 UTC No. 15854894

what are the consequences if a ship or booster actually harms marine life?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:26:32 UTC No. 15854896

Would it be possible to slap a crewed dreamchaser on top of a Falcon Heavy, yeet it to Lunar Gateway, have an HLS chilling there and then land astronauts, or even have the Dreamchaser be the lunar lander after refueling?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:28:38 UTC No. 15854899

What would happen if you were a scuba diver and you were supposed to recover SpaceX crew, but you got cornered and raped by a horny female dolphin?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:30:16 UTC No. 15854901

>>15854894
nothing

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:31:17 UTC No. 15854904

>>15854899
the FWS would conduct a thorough investigation

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:35:35 UTC No. 15854912

>>15854896
Anon...you need to let go...spaceplanes are never coming back...

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:37:01 UTC No. 15854914

>>15854912
Whats this then

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:38:16 UTC No. 15854917

>>15853765
It would only take a minute

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:38:22 UTC No. 15854919

>>15854914
Where dreams go to die

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:43:05 UTC No. 15854927

>>15853866
The are still planning propulsive settling of the tanks. They're just connecting them to point in the same direction rather than ass to ass.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:45:46 UTC No. 15854931

>>15854919
That's why they call it Dreamcrusher.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:50:31 UTC No. 15854938

>>15854914
this thing is a nasty insult. It's a tiny version of the shuttle with literally all the downsides (apart from side mounting) and with many missing benefits (payload bay and recovery of main engines)

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:54:59 UTC No. 15854946

I went and rewatched the post launch press conference broadcast from the first falcon heavy, and I didnt remember Elon being as blackpilled on Fheavy as he actually was. He was basically sabotaging it saying he deosnt recommend anyone book flights and just wait for BFR instead. He was also really embarrassed about the 500 million figure for development cost. That is very steep considering they weren't grifting with the money.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 02:55:23 UTC No. 15854947

>>15854914
Imagine if this started launching along side dragon on the falcon a year ago. But dreams will never be chased by that thing

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 03:08:04 UTC No. 15854964

>>15854946
>He was also really embarrassed about the 500 million figure for development cost

Can't get boing to build you anything for that price tag. I hate them so much.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 03:28:50 UTC No. 15854984

>>15854946
What would have been the implications if the Falcon Heavy flight was a failure? Do another attempt or double down on Starship?

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 03:31:19 UTC No. 15854987

total capsulet death

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 03:31:41 UTC No. 15854988

I keep forgetting Cape Canaveral Space Force Station has a VAB. Looks like an imperial base from Star Wars

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 03:40:22 UTC No. 15854996

>>15854988
kek I wanted to look up what pad this was at and I got this
>East Coast Fence & Guardrail is the leading supplier and installer of high quality fence products in Central Florida. With over 40 years of experience, our impeccable reputation is reinforced by our impressive client list and outstanding customer satisfaction history. We offer high-quality products, competitive pricing and superior workmanship.
>East Coast Fence and Guardrail is certified Women Owned and Disadvantaged Business Enterprise.
It's the Solid Motor Assembly Building btw, outside SLC-40

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 03:50:50 UTC No. 15855005

>>15854996
>Request a FREE Quote
"$400 billion and 50 years to put a fence around your backyard"

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 04:20:39 UTC No. 15855039

>>15853229
>Total Bird Death

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 04:23:19 UTC No. 15855040

>>15854687
I'll go down there and eat every fish if that's what it takes.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 04:23:40 UTC No. 15855041

any guesses wtf the company calling itself "interstellar technologies" is? their job postings keep coming up but they're being obnoxious cockteases staying in VC 'stealth mode'

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 04:27:58 UTC No. 15855043

So when do we find out about the schizodrive? Their website is kind of scammy looking and they have no social media

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 04:43:09 UTC No. 15855067

>>15855043
two weeks
https://twitter.com/RaMansell/status/1723444732842385701

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 05:05:58 UTC No. 15855086

>>15854796
Holy fucking newfag fail -ACK! yourself now

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 05:22:00 UTC No. 15855095

>>15855086
You forgot your twitch emote image

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 05:33:03 UTC No. 15855103

reminder we officially witnessed humanity's entry into space warfare. futurefags are eternally jealous of us.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 06:17:48 UTC No. 15855136

>>15855043
No testing until December. Given the ridiculously low wattage on the thrusters it'll probably take a while to shift orbits even if it does work.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 06:48:33 UTC No. 15855173

I have crafted a car or motorcycle tour of most of the United States hitting all the major space spots. I call it the Rocket Run.

>start in Chicago
>east to NASA Glenn
>south to Oak Ridge, TN
>east via Tail of the Dragon
>northeast via DC/Maryland to NASA Wallops and Rocket Lab's factory
>ferry across
>ride south to Cape Canaveral
>northwest to Alabama to visit NASA Marshall and ULA
>south to New Orleans
>west to NASA Houston
>southwest to Starbase
>northwest to Los Alamos
>west to Flagstaff, AZ and the observatory
>south to Phoenix
>west to the ocean
>north to Hawthorne and SpaceX
>north up the coast to Vandenberg AFB
>keep going north through San Francisco
>NOTE: Astra does not keep hardware outside or allow factory tours so it is being skipped on purpose
>north to Seattle
>take ferry west to Whidbey Island and ride north past ICBM sites to Anacortes
>rejoin I-5, continue to Bellingham
>take Alaska Marine Highway System ferries to Anchorage
>explore Alaska
>make way to Kodiak Island spaceport
>turn around back through Seattle
>east on I-90 past the ICBMs in Montana
>including a Bozeman stop for trekkies who want to visit Zephram Cochrane's future launch site
>optional: close loop in Oak Ridge

I think the only states this misses are Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Missouri, Arkansas, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Colorado, Utah, Nevada, one of the Dakotas, and Hawaii.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 07:03:47 UTC No. 15855195

>>15855173
Nothrop-grumman have a rocket garden in Utah (solid rocket motors mostly as morton-thiokol was based there)

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 07:04:10 UTC No. 15855196

>>15855043
No effect will be observed. But they will either claim some other factor failed the the test or interpret noise as signal.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 07:05:57 UTC No. 15855200

>>15855173
Denver has a F9 now btw.
You NEED to see the National Museum of the United States Air Force. Incredible.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 07:10:10 UTC No. 15855206

>>15855173
>No Duluth
Dropped

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 07:31:24 UTC No. 15855224

>>15855206
You can trivially extend an eastbound leg past Minot and Minneapolis to hit Duluth if you want but the route focuses on places that already exist.

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 07:39:10 UTC No. 15855235

>>15855206
I miss duluth

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 07:47:10 UTC No. 15855244

>>15855235
get a better landing algorithm

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 08:28:19 UTC No. 15855288

staging

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 09:07:11 UTC No. 15855337

>>15855288
Page 10

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 09:12:08 UTC No. 15855347

STAGING
>>15855346
>>15855346
>>15855346
>>15855346
>>15855346

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 10:08:44 UTC No. 15855410

>>15853661
can't enforce shit if the government is shut down anyway

Anonymous at Mon, 13 Nov 2023 13:02:20 UTC No. 15855585

>>15854931
>Dreamcrusher
I like it, I'm using that in public from now on. The original designer has since retired and company sold to Sierra Nevada, and the role reduced from crewed to cargo, so it is a very appropriate term.