🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 22:15:51 UTC No. 15908462
Stoke Stage 1 Edition
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Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 22:24:09 UTC No. 15908477
>>>/wsg/5366182
sounds like an elephant
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 22:25:09 UTC No. 15908479
Zhuque-2 launch in an hour
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 22:46:34 UTC No. 15908500
>>15908484
Good to know it doesn't work. Again.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 22:51:56 UTC No. 15908504
>>15908468
FPBP
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 22:55:01 UTC No. 15908506
>>15908479
The launch has been delayed by a day anon
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 23:01:38 UTC No. 15908511
>>15908506
it's over
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 23:13:00 UTC No. 15908522
>>15908508
she's fat and ugly
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 23:33:17 UTC No. 15908534
>>15908523
IFT 3 ON 8TH DECEMBER WOOOOOO
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 23:35:46 UTC No. 15908535
>>15908523
HOLY SHIT
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 23:38:23 UTC No. 15908537
>>15908523
No source fake as shit kys fat nigger
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 23:39:20 UTC No. 15908539
>>15908523
so, spin prime or static fire?
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 23:40:15 UTC No. 15908540
>>15908539
maybe they're just moving a booster or ship
don't they need to close the road for that?
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 23:50:31 UTC No. 15908547
>>15908484
wait, is he really on a tropical island!? QI must already have been proven right and hes living it large. respect man.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 23:57:42 UTC No. 15908557
>>15908508
what the fuck
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Dec 2023 23:58:45 UTC No. 15908560
spacex is worth $175 billion now. article is paywall though.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:02:04 UTC No. 15908563
>>15908484
Status on the schizodrive?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJQQ
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:04:01 UTC No. 15908567
>>15908539
pressure test
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:06:06 UTC No. 15908568
>>15908560
After listening to the latest biography written on Musk, it's such a shame that he purchased twitter. Apparently he has a habit of manufacturing a crisis in his head when things are too calm, that kind of contextualises that leaked email where he said SpaceX would go bankrupt in 2021 if it wasnt flying several starships to orbit a year by 2022. If he wasnt embroiled in twitter imagine how far he would have pushed SpaceX by now.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:07:53 UTC No. 15908570
>>15908508
Finally, you're moms dildo is ready!
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:09:44 UTC No. 15908574
>>15908568
successful people are often driven by fear
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:19:50 UTC No. 15908592
>>15908582
can you stage from this awful thread please?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:21:55 UTC No. 15908597
>>15908568
There's no easier way to mark your insights as worthless than complaining about Elon buying Twitter.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:23:59 UTC No. 15908599
>>15908462
Stoke has been posting different things on different social media sites. They posted this on Instagram, the inside of the tank. These guys are far along.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C0g5uia
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:24:31 UTC No. 15908600
>>15908597
whats the short term benefit of him buying it? Its clearly a distraction from Mars. Maybe in 5 years it will turn out alright, but he doesnt really have half a decade to waste, hes already old.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:25:03 UTC No. 15908602
i already have my holoscreen ...
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:25:35 UTC No. 15908603
>>15908599
They posted this on LinkedIn
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/stok
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:27:40 UTC No. 15908605
>>15908582
Hot
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:33:34 UTC No. 15908610
>>15908582
can you do a cum tribute on the pillow and starship?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:41:12 UTC No. 15908621
>>15908563
Two Weeks
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:42:38 UTC No. 15908624
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:48:44 UTC No. 15908639
>>15908508
>First launch 3 years after founding
Implessive
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:51:01 UTC No. 15908644
>>15908639
It's a Chicomestoga bucket of cheap SRBs.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:53:44 UTC No. 15908646
>>15908637
This is so much better than the pedo cartoon spam
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 00:59:55 UTC No. 15908657
>china government money is being spent RIGHT NOW making renderings of Falchun Heavy
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:04:55 UTC No. 15908670
>>15908644
if NASA really wanted to go back to the moon ASAP, woudlnt it be simpler to just use two SLS launches mission and send up a basic bitch pressure fed apollo style lander rather than waiting for the worlds most ambitious superheavy launch vehicle to be turned into a gigantic landing space ship?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:07:35 UTC No. 15908676
>>15908462
>>15908599
>>15908603
If only they had engines to put it through some real tests
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:09:49 UTC No. 15908682
>>15908670
I've got about 500 reasons why not right here.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:11:09 UTC No. 15908690
What a terrible day to have eyes
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:13:03 UTC No. 15908694
>>15908670
>send up a basic bitch pressure fed apollo style lander
do you know how hard that would be to build?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:20:01 UTC No. 15908703
>>15908676
Seems like they have a design
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:22:01 UTC No. 15908706
>>15908694
not really
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:37:50 UTC No. 15908721
>>15908694
You can always stage a pressure-fed deorbiter on descent like the chinkpollo.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:38:40 UTC No. 15908722
I don't believe that HLS Starship will ever fly because it just looks too goofy to have Orion use such a massive system as the lander.
It's a shame NASA had completed Orion but not their gay lunar lander by the time Constellation was cancelled. If they had the lander but no deep space command module then Starship could hop in and perform far better than it will with the task its actually been given.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:39:22 UTC No. 15908723
>>15908682
>my company made the list
no surprises there but still good to see we’re part of the gravy train
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:45:00 UTC No. 15908735
>>15908727
bleed. out.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:47:32 UTC No. 15908736
>>15908727
leave the plovers alone
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:48:02 UTC No. 15908738
How hard would it be to add landing legs to a falcon heavy 2nd stage with dragon on top? Send that to the moon.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:53:49 UTC No. 15908743
>>15908738
DELETE THIS.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 01:55:11 UTC No. 15908747
>>15908582
I don't wanna buy any Starship merch until the design is finalized and actually successful.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:01:27 UTC No. 15908752
>>15908599
>>15908603
Where are they launching from? The Cape? Vandenberg?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:01:57 UTC No. 15908753
How do we increase the PR of the commercial space industry to normies?
We have companies making drugs in space, Astroforge is gonna launch an asteroid mining demonstrator mission next month. Vast and Gravitics are going to redefine the concept of the space station. Starship will change everything forever. Yet normies dont seem to understand or know what revolutions are going on in the industry
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:02:57 UTC No. 15908755
>>15908752
They were given LC-14 down at the cape
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:04:17 UTC No. 15908756
>>15908753
>normies dont seem to understand or know
Good. We should do everything possible to decrease the PR of the commercial space industry.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:21:23 UTC No. 15908762
>China explicitly claims they fear SpaceX for possibly causing a deep and unprecedented technological gap between US due to incredibly mass scale sustainable manufacturing and R&D which will cause a self sustaining space boom in US
>But le plane rogget produced in gay cancelled NASA program is le scarier
Amazin
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:25:13 UTC No. 15908766
>>15908753
The revolutions occurring in the industry are questionable at best. Synthesizing drugs in space still isn't the unicorn people hoped it was three or four decades ago. The economics for asteroid mining still fail to close compared to terrestrial production. Without a business case who's going to rent out space on those stations besides the government science programs?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:28:07 UTC No. 15908770
>>15908753
gta7 but in space
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:30:43 UTC No. 15908771
>>15908753
Manned missions to the Moon/Mars
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:31:58 UTC No. 15908772
>>15908762
i think chris laughs at his own posts
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:33:54 UTC No. 15908774
>>15908766
With costs decreasing, large universities and businesses will be able to afford the research space too. Imagine setting up a pay-to-play bio lab up there and taking contracts from whoever wants their zero-g experiment to shortcut the ISS bureaucracy.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:34:55 UTC No. 15908775
>>15908774
those organizations already sent payloads into space. the iss handles tons of them.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:40:10 UTC No. 15908779
What exactly is the Great Attractor?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:42:01 UTC No. 15908781
>>15908764
Well that’s it then. It must be shut down to keep from causing an arms race. Technology is too advanced today to repeat the failures of the Cold War. We CANNOT have another space race.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:45:57 UTC No. 15908784
>>15908779
OP's mom
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 02:51:54 UTC No. 15908787
>>15908753
By defecting all that funding to anti-aging research so that any benefits or interests of space travel can be personally observed in our lifetime.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:00:40 UTC No. 15908793
>>15908781
what would the likelihood of having humans visit all planets in the solar system, and a probe at alpha centauri by 2020 if these were built and used massively by 1985?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:12:28 UTC No. 15908797
>>15908768
I yearn for the day when everyone but spacex goes in the cope box
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:21:40 UTC No. 15908804
The Accident Report is in on the Osiris Rex parachute failure:
> An investigation by engineers from NASA and Lockheed Martin, which built the OSIRIS-REx spacecraft and sample return vehicle, found that build plans for the mission weren't specific enough in instructing technicians who assembled the return capsule."In the design plans for the system, the word 'main' was used inconsistently between the device that sends the electric signals, and the device that receives the signals," NASA said in a written statement. "On the signal side, 'main' meant the main parachute. In contrast, on the receiver side 'main' was used as a reference to a pyrotechnic that fires to release the parachute canister cover and deploy the drogue. "Engineers connected the two mains, causing the parachute deployment actions to occur out of order," NASA said.
Idiots. And not the first time either.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:23:16 UTC No. 15908806
>vandenberg might be doing 100 launches a year within the next two years
legit?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:26:58 UTC No. 15908809
>>15908804
Seems like a really basic mistake
An example of why siloing is bad
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:28:15 UTC No. 15908811
>>15908806
Pushing Falcon 9's launch rate past 100/year with only three droneships is going to be a trick. They're going to try, but I've got no clue how they think it's going to work in practice.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:29:11 UTC No. 15908812
>>15908727
Suffer slowly.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:30:43 UTC No. 15908814
been watching the why files after getting hooked on his apollo moon landing vid. kind of spooked now (i'm easily spooked).
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:32:21 UTC No. 15908817
>>15908811
They could do lighter starlink launches with RTLS
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:33:33 UTC No. 15908819
>>15908814
Youre also easily tricked too, gullible scum.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:34:39 UTC No. 15908820
>>15908779
Krystal, since everyone is attracted to her.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:35:15 UTC No. 15908822
>>15908819
his basic formula is:
>here's this crazy doomsday conspiracy theory and all the evidence to go with it.
>actually it's a scam, here's why
>oh but science actually confirmed several of their predictions. spooky.
just finished the reality simulation vid.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:35:22 UTC No. 15908823
>>15908703
>no inline powerhead
just copy raptor you retards
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:35:38 UTC No. 15908824
>>15908793
>goodfellas_popsci_mindmush.jpg
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:37:22 UTC No. 15908825
>>15908806
I don't see how they could do that without either a high percentage of RTLS flights, more drone ships, or over-land, down-range landings.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:37:35 UTC No. 15908826
>>15908820
Fuck off Noa.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:38:35 UTC No. 15908828
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:38:54 UTC No. 15908829
>>15908804
Dig deeper and you'll find that Linda Ham was involved in project management
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:43:37 UTC No. 15908831
>>15908817
I did hear one idea that had a reduced starlink load and a limited boostback burn so the droneship would be spending less time in transit
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:45:03 UTC No. 15908832
>>15908831
why not just make faster droneships?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:47:22 UTC No. 15908834
>>15908832
Just land the booster horizontally and then light it again to go faster
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 03:48:00 UTC No. 15908835
>>15908834
just refill the booster on the droneship and have it fly itself back to the launch site
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 04:09:32 UTC No. 15908853
>>15908828
uoh
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 04:57:21 UTC No. 15908888
>>15908582
based krystalposter
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 05:00:20 UTC No. 15908892
You arent fooling anyone.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 05:17:46 UTC No. 15908911
Another boring Starlink launch and landing in the books. ho hum
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 05:22:00 UTC No. 15908914
>>15908911
Oh, it happened and went off without a hitch? I wasn't paying attention.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 05:33:06 UTC No. 15908921
>China + FAA >>> SpaceX
Prove me wrong
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 05:43:21 UTC No. 15908926
>>15908600
There's no easy short term answer. The real answer is long term vision Musk has. The internet has become a propaganda machine for the establishment. This is the complete opposite of what the creators of the internet wanted back some 50 years ago or so. There's no freedom anywhere on the internet for people to speak their mind, so Musk bought out twitter. At the time, everyone claimed all his Tesla holdings were overinflated. It was. It was inflated so much. He was worth close to $300B at the time. So he sold parts of it and now its stabalized. In short, he only spent money that was deemed worthless/fake to buy out the smallest social media for the cheapest.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 05:45:09 UTC No. 15908927
>>15908921
Xhes right you know
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 05:48:21 UTC No. 15908930
>>15908929
No you didnt, and nothing ever happens.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 05:50:27 UTC No. 15908933
>>15908929
>sfg is so bored xhey're resorting to fake elon tweets
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 05:54:46 UTC No. 15908937
>>15908933
Its real and youre retarded but so is he https://x.com/elonmusk/status/17323
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:06:29 UTC No. 15908947
>>15908929
well send some shit to mars. there's nothing stopping you.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:14:44 UTC No. 15908954
starlink successfully completed 9 months of secret training with the military in the arctic, paving the way for new military contracts
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:20:28 UTC No. 15908957
>>15908945
Will the popsci weenies start hating spaceflight if it becomes associated with the orange man?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:23:19 UTC No. 15908960
>>15908957
they mentally blocked out space force after relentlessly mocking it. to them it doesnt exist.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:28:14 UTC No. 15908962
>https://archive.is/MTo62
>China space authorities name Elon Musk’s SpaceX an ‘unprecedented challenge’
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:41:22 UTC No. 15908971
>be me
>work for Amazon Kuiper
>one of the technician groups is run by a trans woman engineer who has some... interesting hiring practices
>literally only hires huge jacked black dudes and petite single white women
What did she mean by this? (this story is literally verifiable with a 5 minute linkedin search)
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:44:51 UTC No. 15908975
>>15908971
proof
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:45:56 UTC No. 15908977
>>15908971
>she
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:48:33 UTC No. 15908980
>>15908971
Inefficiencies lead to incompetence. But their inefficiencies are covered by globalist agenda who will put money in them regardless.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:52:06 UTC No. 15908987
>>15908971
mutt's law
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:53:46 UTC No. 15908990
>>15908971
Are you a jacked black dude or a petite single white woman?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:55:21 UTC No. 15908994
>>15908971
>trans woman
>she
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 06:57:35 UTC No. 15908998
>>15908768
unstoppable
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 07:01:28 UTC No. 15909003
>>15908990
He's a jacked white woman
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 07:05:57 UTC No. 15909010
>>15908971
Not verifiable because you didnt post the LinkedIn kill yourself stupid black cock loving mutt and your fake as shit nigger stories.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 07:21:24 UTC No. 15909029
>>15908962
Did China's leadership finally learn you can trivially and cheaply hook up a starlink into remote-piloted stealth bombers/suicide drones?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 07:22:47 UTC No. 15909030
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1fkeTUL
KINO SHUTTLE ET BREAKUP.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 07:34:50 UTC No. 15909039
i still think we should be starting out with robotic outposts, getting things ready for humans. it doesn't even have to be alot of robots, maybe just power and communications landers.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 07:37:54 UTC No. 15909042
>>15909039
Autonomous robots aren't capable yet. Maybe in 10 years, but we'd need a human to oversee them so they dont goto waste
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 07:40:56 UTC No. 15909048
>>15909029
no they just did the upmass and downmass calculations to realize the USSF could have actual space marines with orbital drop ships inserted anywhere our military can keep free of SAM fire for the ~20 minutes of EDL
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 07:41:46 UTC No. 15909050
>>15909039
The safest (boring) answer is probably human controllers in orbit using drones to slowly build enough infrastructure to be somewhat resilient to failures. Easy enough to keep them rotating back to earth or earth orbit without committing.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 07:42:18 UTC No. 15909051
>>15909039
You'd be better off just sending humans the first chance you get, robots are terrible compared to a human. If it's a bit risky just send some disposable ones (pic unrelated).
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 07:48:20 UTC No. 15909056
>>15909051
Yup, one dude with hand tools is better than a fleet of orbitally controlled robots as we saw with Apollo. All we need is one LZ that's flat/safe enough for moonship and a colony can bootstrap from there.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 08:33:28 UTC No. 15909078
>>15908600
>from Mars
mars is a soiboy trap. Cold as antartica and dry as sahara with 1% of earfs atmo. It will only house prospecting research outposts for the first generation before first gen ore extraction starts popping up around the richest and easiest deposits. Space industrialization in general has much easier time setting up on the moon then mars. as for the south african he is just your run of the mill doomer that thinks THE DOOM is behind every corner. Much like /pol/tards see DA JOOS everywhere
low cost access for mass tonnage to leo is where the money shot is at
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 08:39:08 UTC No. 15909084
>>15909078
>soiboy
>inhospitable desert
Mars is for pioneers. The moon isn't really 'ISRU complete', so it isn't viable yet.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 08:49:30 UTC No. 15909097
>>15909078
t. Shlomo Earthberg
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 09:07:17 UTC No. 15909111
>>15908804
CHECK-
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 09:49:16 UTC No. 15909136
>>15908600
musk never looks short term, back when shit was hitting the fan with the falcon 1 failures, he was still planning and designing the falcon 5 and dragon
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 09:54:54 UTC No. 15909139
>>15908804
smdh
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 09:59:45 UTC No. 15909143
>>15908998
>filename
kek
>>15909078
Der ewige jude.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 10:17:03 UTC No. 15909157
>>15909078
Mars contains the resources for a self-sufficient colony.
The moon doesn't.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 10:24:45 UTC No. 15909165
>>15908929
Elon will be like 60 something if it happens by 2033, and he is aware of his super overiptimidtic timeliness so more Realistically he won't live to see the beginings of colonization and may not even live to see humans first landing if things don't go well.
Umaginenif Elon gets dementia and destroys the whole company, or even worse how devastated he would be if the board launch a coup and take his power away.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 10:28:48 UTC No. 15909171
>>15908926
He got into over 10 billion debt to buy twitter, it wasn't just tesla shares
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 10:45:04 UTC No. 15909180
>>15908947
>there's nothing stopping you
Biden admin's FAA and his other regulatory body controls are in the way. They've already delayed the project by 2 years. Now its looking more and more.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 11:02:12 UTC No. 15909190
>>15909111
YER
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 11:06:03 UTC No. 15909196
>>15908804
SpaceX designs all circuitary model at the table to simulate all functions of a real and hypothetical scenarios to ensure reliable modules for all their electrical system.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 11:18:42 UTC No. 15909211
stoke is a joke.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 11:21:47 UTC No. 15909217
>>15909211
>t. rocketlab investooor
seethe piggy piglet
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 11:38:36 UTC No. 15909235
>>15909190
STAGIN'
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 11:44:23 UTC No. 15909244
>>15909235
ohnononoooooo i forgot about thiiissss
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 11:45:25 UTC No. 15909248
>>15909211
stoke is right behind spacex
name one other company doing vtol rockets
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 11:49:51 UTC No. 15909254
>>15909248
Blue Origin.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:00:41 UTC No. 15909266
>>15909248
Anyone doing VTHL rockets?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:25:32 UTC No. 15909291
>>15908522
>>15908508
KSP proportions
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:26:50 UTC No. 15909295
>>15908670
Yes, but the whole mission is pointless anyway.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:29:04 UTC No. 15909296
>>15908762
>>China explicitly claims they fear SpaceX for possibly causing a deep and unprecedented technological gap between US
Unprecedented? Lmao when America was going to the Moon they were starving to death because they couldn't figure out how to grow grain without mass murdering each other.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:31:29 UTC No. 15909298
>>15908670
The Apollo LEM would be totally incapable of completing a landing and return in the Artemis archietecture. Everything is built around the fact that Orion is a heavy shitcan with way too little delta v, so that lander has to be insanely high performance. Cryogen fuels are basically essential.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:33:22 UTC No. 15909301
>>15908929
The purpose of SpaceX is to launch Brilliant Pebbles. "Saving humanity by going to Mars" is code for "Saving humanity by preventing or winning WW3".
"We need to be on mars by 2033" means that WW3 will start by 2033 and we need Brilliant Pebbles in place by then.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:37:50 UTC No. 15909307
>>15909296
Times change, and America was once a barely industrial wasteland that Europeans scoffed at. It's prudent to take China's ambitions seriously lest we be caught with our pants down.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:39:08 UTC No. 15909311
>>15909301
Unironically take your meds. That's a pretty dire mixup of causes, objectives, and opportunities
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:41:42 UTC No. 15909313
>>15909039
If we are going to stay on the moon instead of going as a prestige project I think we need a LEO station on lunar inclination and start landing habs on the moon before sending the next crew.
Sadly I think it's going to be Apollo all over again where we go a few times to prove we can and then it gets defunded.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:43:18 UTC No. 15909316
>>15909313
>If we are going to stay on the moon instead of going as a prestige project I think we need a LEO station on lunar inclination and start landing habs on the moon
What good would that do? If the station isn't a destination, it's a buffer, and there's nothing to buffer for that isn't just propellant depots.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:43:42 UTC No. 15909317
>>15909301
Ballistic missile defense is why Russia is playing with their nuclear torpedo, the easiest way to defeat space based defenses is to stay out of space.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:44:36 UTC No. 15909320
>>15909307
>Times change
Obviously, but to say that a state of affairs is "unprecedented" is making a claim about the past. A plainly false claim in this case. A massive technological gap between China and America is anything but unprecedented.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:44:41 UTC No. 15909321
>>15909316
the whole point is to do 30 more years of zero g experiments on astronauts, but this time around the moon
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:44:56 UTC No. 15909322
>>15909316
>propellant depots
That is the point and seeing the ISS needs replacement anyway why not use the fuel depot as our LEO research station.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:48:28 UTC No. 15909329
>>15909317
Good thing America has a fleet of more than FIFTY (50) fast attack submarines.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:49:27 UTC No. 15909332
>>15909321
>zero g on the moon
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:50:19 UTC No. 15909334
>>15909322
The objectives of the two are not compatible and bolting extra mass to a depot that needs to do liquid transport by acceleration would be an albatross. If you want an LEO research lab, it's best to build a dedicated LEO research lab.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:51:52 UTC No. 15909335
>>15909334
>needs to do liquid transport by acceleration
Why would you use acceleration? you can use surface tension to keep the fuel at a pump and just use solar power to pump it instead of wasting reaction mass.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:55:05 UTC No. 15909338
>>15909335
I recall NASA's been working on a fluid tension based system to keep propellants settled, but those things aren't weightless, and I'm not sure they're capable of operating at the scale in question.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:55:50 UTC No. 15909339
>>15909332
>gateway
>on the moon
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:56:28 UTC No. 15909340
how much would it cost to send a starship to mars anyway. its going to take 20+ launches to refuel a single starship in orbit too.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:56:40 UTC No. 15909341
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/sci
>China’s ambition to become a dominant space power by 2045 is facing unprecedented challenges, especially from US company SpaceX, according to an official commentary in state-owned China Space News. >Chinese aerospace workers must maintain “a deep sense of crisis” as the California-based company takes the lead in revolutionising and reshaping the global space industry, said the commentary which was published on Friday.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:56:57 UTC No. 15909343
>>15909339
>LEO in lunar orbit
This whole chain is fucked up.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:58:05 UTC No. 15909344
>>15909343
He was talking about a station that orbits the Earth on an inclination suitable for a lunar departure burn.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:58:49 UTC No. 15909345
>>15909344
I know because he was me, >>15909321 seems to have missed that.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:59:39 UTC No. 15909347
>>15909340
>20+ launches
This number keeps getting inflated by every new doomsayer. Starship holds 1200 tons of propellant. If you want that to take 20 launches, Starship would need either 60 tons of payload capacity instead of 150 or it'd need to lose shittons of propellant to boiloff between launches.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:59:57 UTC No. 15909349
>>15909340
1.6 billion dollars.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:01:25 UTC No. 15909351
>>15909311
>s-surely Elon has some secret intel about a comet or something coming to earth by 2033.
>It's definitely not about war looming on the horizon
https://www.ida.org/-/media/feature
>THE THREAT THROUGH 2027-2035
>The United States will face two nuclear peer adversaries for the first time. The Commission concludes that China’s rapid expansion of its nuclear forces and Russia’s increasing reliance on nuclear weapons and potentially expanded nuclear arsenal are an unprecedented and growing threat to U.S. national security and potentially the U.S. homeland. In addition, unlike previous conflicts in the 20th century, a future potential conflict with China or Russia would likely involve new kinetic and non-kinetic attacks on the U.S. homeland and assets in space and cyber domains – further underscoring the importance of deterring and defeating such attacks.
> China is pursuing a nuclear force build-up on a scale and pace unseen since the U.S.– Soviet nuclear arms race that ended in the late 1980s. The Commission further concludes that at China’s current pace, it will reach rough quantitative parity with the United States in deployed nuclear warheads by the mid-2030s.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:01:48 UTC No. 15909353
>>15909340
1.6 trillion dolalrs.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:02:56 UTC No. 15909354
>>15909351
>coming to earth by 2033
I hate that short term thinking is so common these days that someone planning centuries ahead couldn't actually be planning centuries ahead but instead has a super secret plan.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:04:28 UTC No. 15909357
>>15909347
>it'd need to lose shittons of propellant to boiloff between launches.
Is that implausible? What kind of launch cadence do you think they'll achieve in only a few years?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:05:46 UTC No. 15909360
>>15909347
NTA, it wont take that many launches for a Mars transfer and landing. The whole thing is that Starship is designed for Mars not the moon, so it's actually harder to land on the Moon than to land on Mars. It takes similar delta-v to transfer to the Moon or Mars, but for the Moon you need to bring your own fuel to land and launch because there is no aero braking and the necessary resources dont exist to refuel on the ground.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:06:07 UTC No. 15909361
>>15909329
they can't stop nuke torpedo's
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:06:14 UTC No. 15909362
>>15909351
And this is why it would be a very good idea for Congress to reevaluate Brilliant Pebbles in the low-price, high capacity launch environment we're entering in light of the strategic threats being faced. All I was objecting to is the idea that Elon built SpaceX to make Brilliant Pebbles happen. That part is just silly.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:06:51 UTC No. 15909364
>>15909357
If Musk is to be believed they will be launching multiple per day and boiloff won't be too bad. Also if Musk is to be believed he's landing men on Mars sometime in the next 23 days.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:08:05 UTC No. 15909365
>>15909364
Trust the Plan.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:08:47 UTC No. 15909366
>>15909357
SpaceX is the most experienced fast-pace launch operator in the world and they're building Starships rather quickly, so I don't think it'll take more than a few years to hit a twice-a-week launch cadence. Might take until 2028 to realize that pace, but it should be doable. Once a month is probably achievable by the end of 2024.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:10:26 UTC No. 15909369
>>15909341
It would be better if they were dismissive and delusional.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:14:57 UTC No. 15909373
>>15909369
Yuros do enough of that already. Some Frenchmen believe that SpaceX achieves it's low cost by being heavily subsidized by the US government, and in the same breath repeat that they have no use-case for reusable rockets.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:15:05 UTC No. 15909374
>>15909354
Elon is the one talking about a 2033 deadline: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status
He's worried about something in the short term. He's worried about the coming war, that's the most pressing and proximate existential threat to humanity right now. Not a comet or climate change or any long-term threat like that.
Long term thinking is great but we need to secure the short term to even make it to the long term.
>>15909362
>All I was objecting to is the idea that Elon built SpaceX to make Brilliant Pebbles happen. That part is just silly.
If you consider Michael Griffin's extensive background with kinetic SDI and his association with Elon Musk immediately preceding the founding of SpaceX, and the fact that SpaceX has been developing precisely the high capacity launch capabilities needed for Brilliant Pebbles, I don't think it's silly to think that SpaceX has been angling for SDI contracts from the very start.
If you want to believe that Elon Musk really does want to get to Mars, then a good first step would be to 1) Prevent or win any major wars that would get in the way of space exploration. 2) Made obscene amounts of money by selling the solution to such major wars to the US government. Winning the contracts to develop/deploy Brilliant Pebbles should be insanely lucrative and could plausibly bankroll a serious Mars colony.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:18:08 UTC No. 15909378
>>15909364
>If Musk is to be believed they will be launching multiple per day
I believe they might get to a few a week, maybe even two or three on the same day, but multiple a day for several days in a row? They won't be ready for that kind of launch cadence in time for Artemis. Maybe in 10 years, but not in two or three years.
Falcon 9's present launch cadence seems like a realistic goal for Starship to reach within 5 years.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:18:48 UTC No. 15909379
>>15909374
He also said we needed to be there by 2021. SpaceX does some great work but Musk is a halfwit grifter that gets fined billions for tweeting about stock buybacks while on acid.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:19:32 UTC No. 15909381
>>15909374
How the fuck you gonna shoot down icbms with 10000 satelitles? Space is huge.. 10000 is peanuts to space
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:21:55 UTC No. 15909385
>>15909379
If you're not a tourist, you know that isn't true.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:22:30 UTC No. 15909386
>>15909381
>merely 10000
With Starship they could launch 50,000 easily. More if necessary, and the best part is that Starship's promised rapid launch cadence would be perfect for rapidly replenishing the constellation of interceptors. China is scared shitless about Starship for this reason. It's not because they're afraid that America might build Moon or Mars bases, it's because they think SpaceX could checkmate them on Earth.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:22:31 UTC No. 15909387
>>15909374
>Winning the contracts to develop/deploy Brilliant Pebbles should be insanely lucrative and could plausibly bankroll a serious Mars colony.
that's all very well, but you're forgetting that the soviets pursued an aggressive assassination campaign against SDI scientists, proponents etc. Putting yourself and your company in the sights of desperate nuclear armed nations is not really a good idea.
>>15909381
you just set a small missile on an intercept with the other missile, then explode the payload at the right time, it's that easy.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:24:10 UTC No. 15909390
>>15909385
Source?
https://jalopnik.com/was-elon-musk-
Now lets say she is lying why would someone as litigious as Musk not file for defamation?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:24:20 UTC No. 15909392
>>15909316
gateway is an anchor. once it’s up nasa can say “look at this space station we spent all this money on. We gotta keep using it. Don’t cancel Artemis funding” to congress.
getting europe and canada involved means they can bully congress too.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:24:46 UTC No. 15909394
>>15909386
you would beed to launch 50 thousand a day to deal with boiloff.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:25:34 UTC No. 15909395
>>15909387
Elon Derangement Syndrome is not an organic phenomenon, as I'm sure you're aware; the public reputation assassination campaign against Elon Musk is already well underway, and there are doubtlessly many people trying to kill him as well. The enemies of America (including useful idiots / traitors in America) want Elon Musk dead more than anything else.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:25:43 UTC No. 15909396
>>15909374
>If you want to believe that Elon Musk really does want to get to Mars, then a good first step would be to 1) Prevent or win any major wars that would get in the way of space exploration. 2) Made obscene amounts of money by selling the solution to such major wars to the US government. Winning the contracts to develop/deploy Brilliant Pebbles should be insanely lucrative and could plausibly bankroll a serious Mars colony.
The best case scenario for SpaceX here would be a near-one-time occurrence of Starlink scale launch contracts of up to 200 launches bidded at maybe $50 million a flight. $10 billion isn't chump change and is nothing to scoff at, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the telecommunications industry, and it's not improbable that Starlink could soon yield that kind of annual revenue without a one-time influx from defense buildouts.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:26:26 UTC No. 15909397
>>15909394
BP interceptors wouldn't use cryogenic propellants.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:27:34 UTC No. 15909398
>>15909390
Ignoring that you're pulling a laughable tabloid up as your source, look up any biopic on Elon Musk, be it Berger's or that other one that came out, or any of the people who have worked with or directly under him, and you'll hear time and again that Musk is very quick to pick up the job of any of his employees and very, very good at it once he does.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:29:22 UTC No. 15909399
>>15909396
BP contracts are worth a hell of a lot more than that; once SpaceX proves they have the capability (and have an administration willing to play ball) it will be a seller's market. Furthermore the BP contracts will be a constant revenue stream, like Starlink, because interceptors in LEO need to be replaced every few years.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:30:07 UTC No. 15909400
>>15909398
I have no doubt people tell one of the richest men he's very good at everything, funnily enough the Paypal guys that worked with him when he was a mere millionaire tell a very different story.
I don't talking about Musk, I love space, I love SpaceX and he has very little to do with either.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:30:13 UTC No. 15909401
>>15909381
But ICBMs don't go in all of space. They peek out into a very thin, very specific piece of space that's constrained by their launch site, target, and flight characteristics. How closely the killsats need to be placed friends on their engagement range, but a few long trains running east-west across Russia is the bulk of what you'd need.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:31:09 UTC No. 15909403
>>15909400
*I'm done talking about Musk
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:31:56 UTC No. 15909405
>>15909390
>>15909379
I don't see any mention of a 2021 deadline in that article, nor any billions of dollar fines (never happened.)
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:32:21 UTC No. 15909406
>>15909399
No, it isn't. BP was cancelled because the costs were exorbitant, and as deep as the DoD's pockets are, they are not endless, and there are a lot of big budget line item expenses eating most of it already.
>>15909400
What's more likely: that literally everybody who worked for him was bribed or threatened to praise him or else for years after they left the company, or Elon Musk actually is an intelligent man and his intelligence and gumption are the reasons for his success, and the people insisting otherwise feel resentment about that success?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:32:30 UTC No. 15909407
>>15909400
>the Paypal guys that worked with him
And what have they accomplished since then?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:33:16 UTC No. 15909408
>>15909406
>BP was cancelled because the costs were exorbitant
At the time, BP costs were simply impossible. SpaceX is making it possible.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:34:37 UTC No. 15909410
>>15909394
How did you manage a b instead of an n? Do you type with your hands in the air?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:35:14 UTC No. 15909411
Give it to me straight, does photon-particle coupling for long-distance lasing without diffraction or beam spreading actually work? Has anybody ever demonstrated this?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:36:33 UTC No. 15909412
>>15909410
That's an easy typo to make on a QWERTY keyboard using your right index finger, particularly if your typing posture is sloppy.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:36:34 UTC No. 15909413
>>15909408
That is true. At the same time, SpaceX is not around to make Brilliant Pebbles happen, and it is very unlikely that SpaceX''s launch business will ever compete with their telecommunications business for the largest share of revenues. Even at the scale of Brilliant Pebbles, it's not going to be their biggest earner once Starlink is done building out.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:42:50 UTC No. 15909426
>>15909413
The DoD is happy to fund Starlink and they'll pay well for access if it's secure enough for aircraft datalink.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:43:40 UTC No. 15909428
>>15909400
no they don't you fucking retard
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 13:56:13 UTC No. 15909456
>>15909428
kiss the ring.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:05:10 UTC No. 15909464
>>15908764
>paywalled
Nigger.
>Why you can trust SCMP
kek
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:05:22 UTC No. 15909466
>>15909456
slurp PRC dick
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:11:10 UTC No. 15909476
>>15909466
put your finger in my anus and swirl your tong on the head of my cock
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:11:55 UTC No. 15909478
>>15909476
>ching chong ping pong
Indeed.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:17:33 UTC No. 15909485
>>15909317
How are they gonna nuke Wyoming or West Virginia with a torpedo?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:18:01 UTC No. 15909487
its funny how Musk is just insanely lucky and none of the success of his various companies can be attributed to him in any way, but all the failures or problems such as missing timelines are solely his responsibility
really makes you think, he really is the luckiest person alive, can stumble into any industry without any knowledge whatsoever and just happens to become the most disruptive and successful company in that niche and this happens again and again while competing startups fail
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:18:38 UTC No. 15909489
>>15909485
The answer and less insane solution in all regards to begin with is cruise missiles.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:18:56 UTC No. 15909490
>>15909361
Yeah we can, we have anti torpedo torpedoes built to help SSNs screen carriers.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:20:30 UTC No. 15909493
>>15909487
its because hes a fucking billionaire dude.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:20:39 UTC No. 15909494
>>15909387
>the soviets pursued an aggressive assassination campaign against SDI scientists, proponents etc.
Like?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:20:56 UTC No. 15909496
>>15909485
They are for counter value strikes rather than counter force strikes. Counter force is only relevant if you think you can "win" a nuclear exchange as counter value provides the true deterrent.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:20:59 UTC No. 15909497
>>15909493
and how did that happen?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:21:14 UTC No. 15909499
>>15909487
Don't forget; not only are missed timelines his fault, but he misses them deliberately because he's a liar and a fraud.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:21:15 UTC No. 15909500
>>15908804
The "we only get one shot at this, so we need a perfect plan" crowd BTFO as usual
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:22:37 UTC No. 15909503
>>15909487
I've read the whole biography, he's clearly smart and has a very rigorous work effort, but he still makes mistakes and stupid decisions. It seems he works best when he has competent people around him who can stand his personality and guide his whims to more productive things.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:22:42 UTC No. 15909504
>>15909499
yep, mars colony late by 2 years
yet another example of musk being a fraud
kek
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:22:44 UTC No. 15909505
>>15909497
He was born into wealth. Then got lucky with Tesla. SpaceX exists because Obama fucking nurtured it.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:23:47 UTC No. 15909508
>>15909493
He wasn't a billionaire when he founded SpaceX. He wasn't a billionaire when he took charge of Tesla.
>>15909505
He really wasn't. All the actual evidence points to Elon effectively building his wealth from scratch after emigrating to Canada and then the United States.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:23:52 UTC No. 15909509
>>15909503
you really don't get it, making mistakes is a given
that is how the iterative process works
you make a mistake, learn from it, try again, make more or less mistakes and repeat until you succeed
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:24:07 UTC No. 15909510
>>15909493
Lots of people are billionaires. Bezos is a billionaire yet his rocket company, which is older than SpaceX, cannot get to space.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:25:10 UTC No. 15909512
>>15909505
so why don't other people born into wealth accomplish what he does? why did other launch startups fail that were started before and after SpaceX? are you saying Obama specifically nurtured only SpaceX?
do you see how ridiculous you sound?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:25:18 UTC No. 15909513
>>15909510
Plenty of SpaceX alumni who have left the company to pursue other interests or other companies, and that hasn't been enough to change that for Blue Origin either.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:25:29 UTC No. 15909515
>>15909497
I invested $20 into crypto in 2011, since then I have pulled out ~$30k and I still have ~$20k still in.
Now imagine if my daddy owned an emerald mine and I could have afforded to throw $1m in instead of $20.
It's not hard to get lucky with a little bit of foresight and the disposable funds to back your ideas.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:26:15 UTC No. 15909517
>>15909515
>I'm a lucky retard therefore everyone is
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:26:34 UTC No. 15909518
>>15909515
Musk got maybe 20k from his father as an investment into the first company he did
you are coping
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:26:34 UTC No. 15909519
>>15909505
There are literally MILLIONS of millionaires in America. Why aren't there millions of Elon Musks?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:27:29 UTC No. 15909521
>>15909503
>he still makes mistakes
How could you possibly expect him to not make mistakes? He's a mortal man, not the son of God.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:27:52 UTC No. 15909523
>>15909496
There's like 100 million people living inland.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:28:12 UTC No. 15909525
and assuming someone handed you 100 mil or something (lets say the first company musk sold was blind luck)
do you understand how many people with that much capital exist? why is no-one else as lucky with completely random ventures like musk?
you really have to have a really demented worldview to sincerely belive everythign musk achieves is due to luck
like its laughable
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:28:22 UTC No. 15909526
>>15909513
Even with his billions of dollars and plenty of rocket engineer talent around to hire, Bezos cannot into space. Sure makes you think...
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:30:09 UTC No. 15909532
>>15909526
First-principals understandings, a keen mind, prodigious willpower, and a bottomless wellspring of spite can take you far.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:31:41 UTC No. 15909537
>>15909523
Frankly they don't matter, lets say you are the POTUS and you are saber rattling on behalf of donors as is tradition.
Now someone rattles back and they can produce 50% casualty rates in your coastal cities.
Are you willing to risk not only the lives of millions but the economic and political turmoil that will follow and has a decent chance of getting you the Mussolini ending?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:33:06 UTC No. 15909538
>>15909537
Successful employment of the weapon and availability in large numbers are both rather generous assumptions.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:35:33 UTC No. 15909544
>>15909537
I would be a national hero for having the foresight to invest into a system that could save so much of America's population from an aggressive bloodthirsty hostile power.
Just imagine what would've happened if they had been able to freely nuke America all they wanted and our only "defense" was nuking them back.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:35:50 UTC No. 15909545
>>15909537
>call up USN
>ayo where dem russian boomers at?
>We have half a dozen SSNs actively monitoring each of them sir, they're all accounted for and can be neutralized in an instant.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:40:19 UTC No. 15909552
>>15909538
For Russia yes but the point stands that a ballistic defense only works against ballistic delivery systems and there are plenty of other options.
If I was designing a first strike nuclear force today I would be going for hypersonics with MIRV style development from each missile with RWR based early release in case of SAM / air launched intercept.
>>15909545
Claimed range of Poseidon is 10,000km, while I don't tend to believe Russia I also see no reason that isn't possible with a nuclear reactor.
You don't need sub launch with those ranges.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:40:49 UTC No. 15909554
>>15908670
Nigga, they can only build one SLS rocket every 18 months.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:47:20 UTC No. 15909563
>>15909552
Poseidons are sub launched because anything else is even easier to track.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:47:33 UTC No. 15909567
>>15909494
https://youtube.com/watch?v=BDA3gGB
this is just the surface level, it goes deeper.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:50:12 UTC No. 15909569
>>15909563
It can be land based with that range, hell put it on a truck with a floating trailer for boat ramp launches.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 14:51:24 UTC No. 15909572
>>15909569
Easier to track than submarines. This is the entire point of putting nukes on submarines.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:08:04 UTC No. 15909611
>>15909334
Do we have an idea of what sort of ullage thrust is needed for cryo propellant transfer? 1m/s^2? 1cm/s^2??
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:10:09 UTC No. 15909613
>>15909611
Earth gravity.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:11:17 UTC No. 15909616
>>15908670
This guy brings up some interesting things about the current state of the Artemis program. If you aren't too anti-youtube.
https://youtu.be/OoJsPvmFixU
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:14:17 UTC No. 15909620
>>15909616
that dude is a retard
didn't even bother to find out the basic mission of the programme (permanent presence instead of boots on ground)
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:16:22 UTC No. 15909623
>>15909616
We have been over this fucking video already. The retard took a week's dive into a complex program that involves multiple big government contractors and years of congressional funding politics and then lectured an audience who knew more about it than him. And the amount of shit he got wrong was embarrassing. Completely nullified whatever valid points he made.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:16:22 UTC No. 15909624
do not engage the brilliant pebbles retard.
this just causes him to fill the thread with his other opinions which are worthless by default due to the magnitude of his delusion on the one topic.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:20:01 UTC No. 15909630
>>15909616
This is must watch for all /sfg/ anons. Wake up call
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:22:46 UTC No. 15909636
>>15909544
I take it you weren't alive during the Cold War.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:23:00 UTC No. 15909637
>>15909620
>permanent presence instead of boots on ground
And how is that gonna happen when SLS needs 15 additional rocket launches just to fuel up to get to the moon.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:25:29 UTC No. 15909642
>>15909637
>SLS needs 15 additional rocket launches
are you retarded? anyway return to reddit
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:28:14 UTC No. 15909647
>>15909637
please be bait
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:32:45 UTC No. 15909649
>>15909642
https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:33:42 UTC No. 15909651
>>15909624
Brilliant pebbles is stupid anyway just launch decoy missiles
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:36:37 UTC No. 15909654
>>15909649
Yes. What do you think this has to do with SLS redditor?
There would be the same number of refuelings if the astronauts were launching on Starship
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:37:04 UTC No. 15909657
>>15909616
Doesnt mention congress no point.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:39:21 UTC No. 15909660
>>15909647
>>15909642
Hes serious btw. Thank that SmarterEveryGoy jewtuber
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:41:12 UTC No. 15909661
>>15909616
Even the Martian understood how these programs work better than this retard.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:42:30 UTC No. 15909662
>>15909637
>And how is that gonna happen when SLS needs 15 additional rocket launches just to fuel up to get to the moon
SLS is an entirely different rocket tourist. The HLS is launched and refueled through Starship. And the difference is that it can bring along 150 tonnes of payload and 1000m3 of habitable volume. You can effectively make a moon base with just one of them.
And even than the 15 launches meme is not some set number. That's based on outdated performance numbers for a Starship is fully reusable mode. If they wanted they could just launch 4-5 expandable Starships instead.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:47:55 UTC No. 15909668
>>15909662
>expandable fluid transfer
tags: rocketgirls, futanari, inflation, r18
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:50:50 UTC No. 15909674
>>15909662
I guess that make sense. But using up 4-5 starships per launch can't be anymore sustainable than using and reusing 15 per launch.
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:51:18 UTC No. 15909677
>>15909662
I don't think you can make a lander of any size or payload capacity that is fully reusable and goes from LEO to NRHO to Moon to NRHO without ballpark 5-10 refuelings in LEO.
The argument to be had is whether these refuelings cost you less than throwing away a stage of your lander. Medium to long term with fully reusable tanker flights it's obvious they will. Short term and especially with expendable tankers there's no way.
Also all cargo launches can bypass gateway going straight to the moon so you can save on that too.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:51:55 UTC No. 15909678
>>15909668
Youll be fucking hanged
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:52:59 UTC No. 15909680
>>15909678
*hung
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:55:14 UTC No. 15909686
>>15909674
the number is irrelevant, that is something people don't seem to get
what matters is cost, this system is designed to be reusable
doesn't matter if you needed 100 launches
as long as those 100 launches are cheaper than one launch by another rocket (lets say SLS) then it still makes sense
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:55:17 UTC No. 15909687
>>15909674
Well, obviously not. It's should purely be something done during time constraint. SpaceX will be able to produce a Starship once a month by next year or perhaps even more by the end of it. And even throwing out 5 expandable ones wouldn't even amount to half the cost of one SLS launch to put it into some perspective.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:55:41 UTC No. 15909688
>>15909680
Die
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:55:52 UTC No. 15909689
>>15909678
uwu autoerotic asphyxiation
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 15:57:21 UTC No. 15909691
>>15909687
time constraint during the period when Starship's reusability is not fully developed* that is.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:03:54 UTC No. 15909702
Guess what? Little birdy told me some big changes coming @ Starbase
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:04:31 UTC No. 15909704
>>15909702
bleed out.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:05:37 UTC No. 15909709
>>15909704
Don't you want to ask me details?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:05:47 UTC No. 15909711
>>15909702
Your little birdy is playing jewish tricks on you.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:08:21 UTC No. 15909715
>>15909712
Training the rat for liftoff.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:19:32 UTC No. 15909726
>>15908832
It's not that easy in maritimetry
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:20:33 UTC No. 15909728
>>15908832
>>15908834
>>15908835
Or just build more droneships
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:24:54 UTC No. 15909731
>>15909712
Is this the famed little bordy?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:36:00 UTC No. 15909743
>>15909678
>>15909688
>>15909704
Why are you fucking barneyfag posting in /sfg/?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:36:51 UTC No. 15909746
Seems to me the bigger the rocket, the riskier the launch. Why don't we send all the equipment and fuel up to orbit on big rockets, then send the astronauts on smaller safer rockets? It just seems like we are still doing things like the Apollo days: send the whole hog up all at once. Unnecessary risk to life.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:38:22 UTC No. 15909748
>>15909746
are big airplanes riskier than small airplanes?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:39:48 UTC No. 15909751
>>15909748
big rocket vs small rocket success rates are what I am looking at. not your false equivalency logical fallacy.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:47:30 UTC No. 15909758
>>15909751
really? what numbers are you looking at exactly
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:53:41 UTC No. 15909771
>>15909758
I dont even know where you schizos get the numbers to back up your starship fantasies.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:53:54 UTC No. 15909772
>>15909758
falcon 9 has many many more successful launches than starship or falcon heavy. like 250+. Don't get me wrong, I think the heavies have their use. But when it comes limiting the risks for human life, you should use your most reliable rocket. send the equipment seperately.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 16:56:15 UTC No. 15909774
>>15908582
are you /pol/s Finnish furry?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:04:28 UTC No. 15909787
>>15909616
I'm glad someone with his platform is finally speaking out. It's always been retarded, the best we cn hope is that they cancel the Art III project before it reaches completion and just move Art 4 to Art 3's place.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:04:40 UTC No. 15909788
>>15909039
human wave tactics, eventually the bodies will pileup enough to keep an atmosphere in the middle
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:09:58 UTC No. 15909795
>>15909599
Balloon probe
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:10:27 UTC No. 15909797
>>15909743
Two people, and also because its funny and suits my purposes.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:12:17 UTC No. 15909799
>>15909772
you are absolutely retarded
are you trolling? please tell me this is trolling
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:12:37 UTC No. 15909800
>>15909774
Hi newfag, no he's from Hawaii and has been shitting up /sfg/ for a while now. More recently, he's been a nigger thread splitter so theres that. If you want context go back to the IFT-2 threads and you will get everything you need.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:20:15 UTC No. 15909805
>>15909799
why is it retarded? do you have the 8th grade vocab needed to put your ideas into words?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:21:01 UTC No. 15909807
>>15909805
okay so you are completely clueless
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:22:33 UTC No. 15909811
>>15908547
lol
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:23:00 UTC No. 15909814
>>15909807
>hey /sfg/ what about this idea
>no thats retarded
>but why can you explain
>of course not
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:27:53 UTC No. 15909821
>>15909747
How much extra mass?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:28:17 UTC No. 15909823
>>15909814
people are being sent up with SLS, not Starship
you don't even know the most basic shit about this, why would I continue talking about it with you?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:33:24 UTC No. 15909831
>>15909747
I wish the placement of the LOX header tank was different.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:34:24 UTC No. 15909833
>>15909751
>big rocket vs small rocket success rates are what I am looking at
>electron failure rate
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:36:18 UTC No. 15909835
>>15909823
ok thank i was mistaken. you're still a jackass though
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:40:47 UTC No. 15909840
>>15909835
you could try reading the wikipedia article or something before you start talking retarded shit
I called you retarded because what you said is retarded, simple as that
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:45:47 UTC No. 15909848
>>15909616
This guy needs to go fuck himself.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:50:37 UTC No. 15909855
>>15909840
but it still begs the question. why do we send up crew on SLS when falcon 9 is much more reliable?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:50:38 UTC No. 15909856
>>15909841
I think South Africa is the last big geographic piece worth fighting over on that front since we already have all the ISS/ASAT capable nations besides Russia and China, and we have Australia, Argentina, and Brazil for southern hemisphere groundstations.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:51:37 UTC No. 15909858
>>15909855
Congress wrote a law requiring it to protect orangerocketbad. Big Jim proposed putting Orion+ICPS on a Falcon Heavy and Richard Shelby almost canceled the entire Artemis program out of spite.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:52:47 UTC No. 15909861
>>15909855
because congress
SLS is a jobs programme
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:53:04 UTC No. 15909863
>>15908694
just get the automatic landing code from a quadcopter, wire the outputs for the 4 motors to some rocket engines, then put a seat and fueltanks on top.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:54:34 UTC No. 15909867
>>15909855
and yes it would be better to use a falcon 9 probably until Starship gets reliable enough to get human rated, but that isn't possible within the Artemis programme
Artemis pretty much exists for SLS to have a purpose and SLS exist for legacy shuttle contractors and subcontractors have work
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:55:32 UTC No. 15909869
>>15908762
Ah, could this explain the hatred of Musk? These people like thunderf00t are not real, but simply the CCP trying to undermine their military opposition.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:56:36 UTC No. 15909872
fun fact: the people who chose Starship as the HLS winner got demoted or fired because HLS was supposed to be another oldspace grift programme through Blue Origin
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 17:57:35 UTC No. 15909875
>>15909872
really?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:00:15 UTC No. 15909881
>>15909872
this grift and beauracracy, which i have no doubt exists, is the reason why private companies need to be the one to lead the way to mars and beyond. leaving it up to NASA is just asking for government waste and false promises. no disrepect to the apollo program, but that era has passed.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:01:09 UTC No. 15909884
>>15909875
Newfag
>>15909872
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:02:10 UTC No. 15909886
>>15909883
Kill ourselves because MSR is a gravy train mission and should have its funding cut (and Dragonfly)
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:02:20 UTC No. 15909887
>>15909884
proof? or did your schzio friend make it up in a dream?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:02:33 UTC No. 15909888
>>15909856
black south africans are firmly aligned with russia and china
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:03:06 UTC No. 15909889
>>15909888
Just one more reason Elon needs to drop Starships full of fusion bombs on them.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:03:27 UTC No. 15909891
>>15909888
how easy would it be to create appartheid again?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:11:40 UTC No. 15909908
Well well well… SeX always comes crawling back to youtube at the end of the day
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:12:50 UTC No. 15909911
>>15909900
lol and Russia is still clinging to the ISS instead of Tinydong2 because China won't put their station in a 51.6" inclination.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:15:42 UTC No. 15909916
>>15909908
Meds now theyre still streaming in Xitter
>inb4 its x tranny
FUCK YOU I WILL NOT USE YOUR STUPID FAG PORN SITE NAME OR BUY YOUR X PREMIUM SERVICE STREAMING IFT-2 ON TWITTER WAS A MISTAKE THAT OBVIOUSLY SHOULDVE NEVER BEEN MADE
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:21:29 UTC No. 15909925
So they had onboard footage, but didn't show anything after seperation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3i
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:23:18 UTC No. 15909927
>>15909925
apart from this
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:26:14 UTC No. 15909933
why doesn't starship have a black box?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:27:11 UTC No. 15909936
>>15909929
you sure that applies to a private company? kind of doubt it
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:28:38 UTC No. 15909938
>>15909891
would be relatively easy in vacuum but the western block would stop it right now
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:31:37 UTC No. 15909945
>>15909925
They are hiding something...
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:32:48 UTC No. 15909947
>>15909945
Maybe they are hiding shit from chinks
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:40:15 UTC No. 15909961
>>15909947
Or hiding something embarrassing
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:41:27 UTC No. 15909965
>>15909961
Last time they actually showed onboard footage during launch, but not this time.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:44:47 UTC No. 15909969
>>15909965
maybe they didn't have a good connection?
they still haven't released the full onboard footage from IFT-1
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:45:36 UTC No. 15909972
>>15909938
Apartheid will develop naturally in space because BO particles stay in the air for much longer. Nobody wants to live in a hab full of nigger stink.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:47:27 UTC No. 15909976
>>15909872
They even gave one guy terminal cancer
RIP
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:47:57 UTC No. 15909978
>>15909927
Oh shit... This is bad.
No wonder they didnt post the full video LMAO
Doomers vindicated.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:48:12 UTC No. 15909979
So they did have the onboard camera feeds this whole time and they just didn't show us until now?
Release the full onboard footage Elon REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:49:57 UTC No. 15909981
>>15909927
>it's just two stale buns with nothing in between
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:51:48 UTC No. 15909984
>>15909979
It would have been weird if they didn't have cameras considering it's a test vehicle
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:51:56 UTC No. 15909985
>>15909972
I was talking about political vacuum (South Africa by itself), not vacuum of space
I don't think it will happen in space, the mars colony will have to be pragmatic i.e. a non meritocratic system will run into trouble very quickly
you won't have useless immigrants in mars, only the best will be filtered there so no need or reason for apartheid (the black people that do go there will be competent)
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:53:22 UTC No. 15909988
>>15909976
him having terminal cancer might have been the reason he did what he did
at least that would be an extra reason, doesn't matter if you get backlash if you are going to be gone in a few years anyway, might as well go out with a bang
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:53:36 UTC No. 15909991
>>15909984
Well we still haven't seen any footage at all from the engine bay or from Starship, just the booster camera
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:53:45 UTC No. 15909993
>>15909926
the visible part is just much hotter than the rest of the plume, you can see the same 'cone' (shock diamonds accumulating into a larger one?) in the liftoff photos
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:53:47 UTC No. 15909994
>>15909985
>>15909988
Shut the fuck up negroid not spaceflight
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:54:41 UTC No. 15909998
>>15909994
I disagree
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:55:29 UTC No. 15910002
>>15909994
i agree
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:55:48 UTC No. 15910005
>>15909994
also you smell
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:57:43 UTC No. 15910018
>>15909994
I can't make my mind up on if you are right.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 18:59:47 UTC No. 15910024
>>15909908
>using up youtube's bandwidth like a little slut
based ngl
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:03:07 UTC No. 15910032
>>15909998
>>15910002
>>15910005
>>15910018
Hang yourself
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:03:57 UTC No. 15910033
>>15909998
>>15910002
>>15910005
>>15910018
live yourself
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:04:03 UTC No. 15910035
>>15910032
off topic comment by you
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:06:04 UTC No. 15910039
>>15910035
Why are you announcing a report?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:07:28 UTC No. 15910044
>>15910039
why would assume such a thing? also stop posting off topic stuff please
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:12:09 UTC No. 15910052
Why is NASA such BBC suckers that theyre sending them to the moon to to BLACKED a white woman
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:14:27 UTC No. 15910058
>>15910052
it's the only way to get coongress to approve funding
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:33:53 UTC No. 15910097
Eat the bugs, live in the moon pod, own nothing and be unhappy.
Eat the 3D printed steak & salad, live in your own martian home, own your life and be happy.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:34:36 UTC No. 15910098
>>15910097
This sounds kinda comfy
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:37:36 UTC No. 15910103
>>15910098
Which one
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:39:20 UTC No. 15910107
>>15909994
ambivalent about this
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:40:11 UTC No. 15910110
>>15910098
YOURE A FUCKING PIG. NICE PSYOP I WILL NEVER EAT ZE BUGS
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:40:22 UTC No. 15910111
>>15910103
Being a bug
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:42:18 UTC No. 15910115
>>15910112
thats so fake. it looks nothing like the original alviestream. i think im going insane or spacex is pulling a fast one.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:43:07 UTC No. 15910116
>>15910112
how is this related to spaceflight? it didn't go to space
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:44:28 UTC No. 15910119
>>15910115
>>15910116
nawwww why these goofy ahhh bluds trying to ratio my launch footage :skull:
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:44:48 UTC No. 15910120
>>15910112
4MB is the limit now.
>>15910116
It did.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:45:10 UTC No. 15910123
>>15910116
Wrong, it went above 100km so it is spaceflight, unlike IFT-1.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:46:30 UTC No. 15910125
>>15910120
i tried getting it to 4mb but it was encoded wrong and i was too lazy to do it again so i just uploaded the 2mb version i had before
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:46:52 UTC No. 15910127
>>15910112
thanks anon
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:46:53 UTC No. 15910128
>>15910110
reread your post. it's really a nice sustainable way to live, and the moon is very peaceful
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:48:25 UTC No. 15910131
Kill all mooniggers
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:49:55 UTC No. 15910136
>>15910131
racism outside b
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:49:59 UTC No. 15910137
>>15910123
maybe 1/3 it did briefly go above 100km before exploding, but that rounds down 0 so I would say not spaceflight related
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:50:48 UTC No. 15910141
Love all mooniggas
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:51:24 UTC No. 15910143
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:52:19 UTC No. 15910144
>>15910143
are you announcing a report? that's a reportable offense
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:53:03 UTC No. 15910146
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:57:12 UTC No. 15910155
>>15910112
>>15910120
here's the same vid at the 4mb limit if anyone cares
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:58:26 UTC No. 15910158
>>15910155
how do you do that
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:01:13 UTC No. 15910162
>>15910155
youre so fucking idiotic. this isnt 4mb either.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:02:34 UTC No. 15910163
>>15910158
racism
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:03:25 UTC No. 15910165
>>15910143
>>15910146
these posts are extremely low quality
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:08:29 UTC No. 15910172
>>15910162
who cares its close enough and putting the limit at 4MB makes it go slightly above that
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:09:45 UTC No. 15910176
>>15910158
download vidcoder and set the target filesize to slightly below 3.9 MB
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:11:14 UTC No. 15910178
>>15910160
I thought we determined the Ship had the LOX leak, not the Booster, what gives?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:13:28 UTC No. 15910180
>>15910178
you see the ship in the background
definitely looks like a leak of some kind (or I guess it could be attitude thrusters or something as well)
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:13:55 UTC No. 15910183
>>15910165
Actually theyre not, see picrel. Also, see >>15910039.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:15:01 UTC No. 15910184
>>15910112
>>15910155
Stop using online platform to do this shit. The quality is atrocious.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:20:23 UTC No. 15910194
>>15910180
Huh. It looks like the leak happened exactly halfway up the ship and not at the base where I expected it to. And we know the ship split in half thanks to those pics of it after it broke up. What went wrong I wonder? Is there something particularly difficult about how the starship rings in that area are joined together?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:22:41 UTC No. 15910199
>>15910184
It's at 3.8 MB I don't think the last .2 matters that much in terms of quality.
I didn't do it online, I used vidcoder
🗑️ Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:22:50 UTC No. 15910200
>>15910183
I've just reported your post for trolling outside b
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:26:27 UTC No. 15910209
/sfg/ - Slapfight General
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:38:25 UTC No. 15910227
>>15910223
gonna miss this. the triangle engine configuration looks scifi.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:40:52 UTC No. 15910232
https://youtu.be/Jor9KtqYidE?si=2dJ
ahahaha she just fucked Dustin the the ass
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:49:44 UTC No. 15910251
>>15910232
Dustin should really do a followup so the millions of NPCs that watch his videos don't go spreading the talk as fact
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:53:33 UTC No. 15910260
>>15910232
Tweet this at Nasa administrator, this needs to get to the top. we can turn this ship around get space on the right track
>>15910251
his channel is for npcs? they get smarter each day from watching his videos. what about you? dumber each day
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:54:30 UTC No. 15910262
>>15910260
Not true, I come here to learn from smart people.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:56:07 UTC No. 15910267
MoreMisinformedEveryday
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:56:18 UTC No. 15910268
>>15910262
how many subscribers does this place have conpared to destin
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 20:59:47 UTC No. 15910273
GayerEveryDay
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:01:00 UTC No. 15910275
>channel is smarter every day
>video actually makes you dumber
people shouldnt speak outside of their expertise
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:03:42 UTC No. 15910283
>>15910232
Never thought i’d find myself agreeing with her hahahaha way to go, destin
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:22:36 UTC No. 15910299
about the vega tanks story from a Kourou worker
"The truth of this story seems so incredible that I can only leave you to imagine how flight material can end up in the garbage and then in the recycling bin....
I still can't believe what I heard.
Avio has lost all credibility for me"
This is from a guy who, a few days ago, thought it was an overblown story and a mere conspiracy against avio
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:23:56 UTC No. 15910301
>>15910184
There's no way to get a high quality >1min dynamic video for 4MB anon
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:28:20 UTC No. 15910305
>>15910227
>gonna miss this. the triangle engine configuration looks scifi.
Yeah I agree. It is very reminiscent of the Interplanetary Transport System. 9 engines just doesn't look as cool.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:28:47 UTC No. 15910306
>>15910275
he has no expertise
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:29:18 UTC No. 15910308
>>15910232
she might be right but she is still a literal who? with videos that don't even make 3 digits in views
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:30:54 UTC No. 15910309
>>15910308
Meanwhile disinfo hits multiple million views. That's irrelevant
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:31:05 UTC No. 15910310
>>15910308
she is a major space journo and high up in the jewish control apparatus
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:33:50 UTC No. 15910313
>>15910232
>the difference is Artemis is a sustainable program!
The problem is Artemis is not a sustainable program. 11.8 billion dollars btw KEK. How is dragonfly and that mars sample return mission going?
NASA is delusional. They are a jobs program, nothing more
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:34:23 UTC No. 15910315
>>15910299
you don’t have to worry about recycling on the launch pad if you just recycle your whole rocket before hand. Another genius idea from our euro friends
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:34:39 UTC No. 15910316
>DAE ANYONE ELSE SEE ARTEMIS IS NOT EQUAL APOLLO DURRRRHURRR WTF
yeah one was done in the 60s by people who are dead. one is being done by alive people. people who reason by analogy need to be killed
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:35:52 UTC No. 15910318
>WE DONT NEEEEEEEEEED TO CHOOSE TO REFUEL OUR SPACECRAFT LIKE SPACEX DOES
Lol
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:36:53 UTC No. 15910320
Glass the state of alabama
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:38:06 UTC No. 15910323
>>15910232
Dustin killed 14 astronauts on the Space Shuttle. Dustin killed Gus Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:40:24 UTC No. 15910327
>>15910320
I'm pretty disappointed that BO invested in a factory there. Would much rather those oldspace Alaboomers died off so i can stop hearing about that garbage state
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:41:52 UTC No. 15910331
>>15910313
Artemis III will end in disaster and death, calling it now.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:42:07 UTC No. 15910332
>>15910327
BO had to choose between houston and alabama and I’m sure oldspace cronyism / bob smith being CEO at the time of selection had a huge impact on the final decision
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:44:39 UTC No. 15910336
>>15910334
Someone should sue SpaceX to steal the HLS contract and put Elon in jail, just my opinion
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:45:02 UTC No. 15910338
>>15910334
what is funny most of those points apply to BOs current architecture now
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:46:10 UTC No. 15910340
>>15910338
3 launches vs 16
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:46:35 UTC No. 15910341
is the falcon heavy launch on Sunday gonna scrub? looks like its gonna rain
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:46:52 UTC No. 15910342
>>15910232
>We like had the conversations and um here's some documents with words, so um CHECKMATE!
women should stick getting fucked in the ass
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:47:09 UTC No. 15910343
>>15910334
What makes BO's argument meaningless is the fact that only one of those ships has actual people on them. The rest can explode and be replaced they don't matter at all
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:49:23 UTC No. 15910345
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:49:49 UTC No. 15910347
>>15910340
blue origin is not an orbital company
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:50:59 UTC No. 15910349
>>15910345
Why isnt he crying and screaming at all the workers? It exploded aka failed
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:52:38 UTC No. 15910352
>>15910345
is that the new architecture from BO?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:53:51 UTC No. 15910355
>>15910345
>>15910349
The video is deceptively edited to make it look like he was satisfied with the launch. In the actual full length stream hes all giddy and happy once everyone thinks it has reached the target trajectory, but then once he finds out it exploded he becomes stoney faced and pissed off. Then his brother runs away to watch the F1. kind of funny actually.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:54:14 UTC No. 15910356
SED is now a CSS and Thunderf00t tier FUDder. Speaking of, how are all those guys holding up? I saw the ESGHound deleted his "no launch before EOY" tweet btw KEK.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:55:32 UTC No. 15910358
>>15910356
SED?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:56:01 UTC No. 15910361
>>15910358
He means Smarter Every Day
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:56:30 UTC No. 15910362
>>15910355
Wow extremely embarrassing. It will never work!
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 21:56:44 UTC No. 15910363
>>15910356
talking to chatbots to vindicate himself
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:00:29 UTC No. 15910369
>>15910356
Dustbin is like a pre-SpaceX oldspace NPC waking up in a stupor after being cryofrozen since Bush Jr., Common Stock Shorter idk, Phil Mason is a secret ally now but to keep up appearances he is anti elon to his viewers, esghound is at the point where he's saying it's illegal but no one is doing anything about it, the poor guy has been beaten down
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:01:50 UTC No. 15910374
>>15910363
i think css just likes attention
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:03:05 UTC No. 15910377
>hurr we cant refuel in orbit because
>*fucks sister*
>iss too complicatered for me to want to take the chance but
>*beats wife*
>we should be takerin more risks like duh apallo mishuns or whatever, but not like starship
>*scarfs 3 quadruple decker burgers*
>im smart becuz my channel name says it! what congress? who cares i hate them goobermints!!
>*takes monthly shower in creek*
>DURRRR LISTEN TO ME NASA IM SMARTER THAN AN ENTIRE AGENCY!!
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:04:52 UTC No. 15910380
>>15910377
Alabanese are so based
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:06:47 UTC No. 15910383
>>15910377
Nasa idolatry is really sickening
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:07:00 UTC No. 15910384
>>15910377
lmaaooo
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:07:58 UTC No. 15910387
>>15910381
the face of sucess and satisfaction with the mission
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:09:12 UTC No. 15910390
>>15910383
I wasnt implying NASA was smart about most of their decisions, just that theyre not as unfoundedly retarded as that redneck hick SEDs.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:12:46 UTC No. 15910398
>>15910369
>esghound is at the point where he's saying it's illegal but no one is doing anything about it
Buck broken
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:15:11 UTC No. 15910401
Common Sense Skeptic, Thunderf00t, ESGHound, SmarterEveryDay, who else is on this list?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:15:29 UTC No. 15910402
Artemis II genesis reading by victor glover
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:19:45 UTC No. 15910409
Wait Zubrin said cancel MSR? Fucking hell Zubrincels are going to rub this in my face, broken clock is right twice a day I guess..
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:20:24 UTC No. 15910412
>>15910409
Zubrin is the /sfg/ cancel MSR anon
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:21:13 UTC No. 15910414
>>15910412
Fake news, also cancel Dragonfly.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:21:49 UTC No. 15910416
>>15910401
What is the list for.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:22:23 UTC No. 15910417
>>15910416
Based sigma gigachads
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:22:29 UTC No. 15910418
>>15910416
Take a guess.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:24:11 UTC No. 15910423
>>15910416
definitive list of the most knowledgeable space enthusiasts
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:24:12 UTC No. 15910424
>>15910417
Jump off a cliff
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:25:13 UTC No. 15910426
>>15910423
Id hate to be you
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:27:17 UTC No. 15910428
>>15910409
Zubrin is almpst always right, where have you been? Oh right, your putincel
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:28:45 UTC No. 15910430
what orbit is the x-37b going into?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:28:50 UTC No. 15910431
>>15910428
Putler good thoughie
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:30:06 UTC No. 15910433
>>15910355
>source?
>it came to me in a dream
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:30:22 UTC No. 15910434
>>15910416
poopy stink stank fart finger anus lol
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:32:28 UTC No. 15910438
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:35:36 UTC No. 15910447
>>15910438
Do this.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:42:28 UTC No. 15910463
>>15910433
watch the stream, have you tried that?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:43:35 UTC No. 15910467
>>15910401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3h
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:46:04 UTC No. 15910471
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:48:21 UTC No. 15910476
>>15910471
This is unironically cool
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:52:44 UTC No. 15910485
>2023
>largest german liquid rocket engine is still the V2's
the absolute state
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:54:34 UTC No. 15910489
>>15910486
yes im anon i confirm
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:55:20 UTC No. 15910491
>>15910486
bleed out.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:55:38 UTC No. 15910492
>>15910486
Raptor could get to 400+ bar if LK-99 didn't turn out to be a massive waste of time
Not Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:55:58 UTC No. 15910493
>>15910486
No we're not Anon we deny
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:57:40 UTC No. 15910494
>>15909291
my rockets are all much skinnier than that
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:57:50 UTC No. 15910495
>>15910492
what are you implyinh
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:58:57 UTC No. 15910497
>>15909313
precession is going to fuck your lunar inclination station plans my dude
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:59:37 UTC No. 15910499
>>15910495
Infinite bar
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:00:13 UTC No. 15910502
What should the method of Capital punishment be on the mars colony?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:01:07 UTC No. 15910503
>>15910502
Take away your spacesuit and open the door.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:01:30 UTC No. 15910504
>>15910463
Give us a timestamp of when Elon is behaving as you describe.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:01:35 UTC No. 15910505
>>15910485
depends on what you count as German
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:02:41 UTC No. 15910508
>>15910505
Aryan
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:03:04 UTC No. 15910510
>>15910499
no tell me about lk99 lets get a discussion going
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:05:15 UTC No. 15910514
>>15910510
SHUT UP NOT SPACEFLIGHT KYS
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:05:36 UTC No. 15910516
>>15910510
Quantum-locking objects in mid-air, having objects connected to surfaces but not physically, and without having to change the temperature of the object to have it act this way
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:07:15 UTC No. 15910520
>>15910514
It would be very spaceflight applicable if it wasn't a fucking scam by a retard dashing our hopes against a rock over and over every time we get close.
Imagine a Raptor that doesn't need to be cooled at all and can get as hot as it wants
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:07:15 UTC No. 15910521
>>15910504
I'm not doing your homework for you. You know where to find the timestamps. When it had staged and was most of the way to target trajectory he was giddy, then he stops behaving fun when they lsoe telemitry and becomes less and less happy
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:07:37 UTC No. 15910522
>>15910514
oh i forgot it was that superconductor scam lol. thought it was some soviet engine, chill fren
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:08:01 UTC No. 15910523
>>15910505
Wasn’t the F1 designed by rockwell for the air force? I’m not sure how much of it was WvB related
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:10:26 UTC No. 15910525
>>15910523
von braun was a hack. scammed himmler into investing in rockets then scammed america into investing in rockets, all while drastically underdelivering.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:13:11 UTC No. 15910532
>>15910269
Why even launch three fucking things for something the fucking Saturn V could do at once?
Reeeeeee.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:14:19 UTC No. 15910537
>>15910269
>the sheer size of starship
>>15910334
>the bullet points about SH being super heavy
They do realize that only makes my erection harder, right?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:17:26 UTC No. 15910542
>>15910334
Why does it take that many boosters for each Moon landing?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:18:43 UTC No. 15910545
>>15910525
we deserve better bait than this
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:19:49 UTC No. 15910549
>>15910232
Had forgotten all about this jewess. Didn't know she had a youtube.
Why are their voices always so intoxicatingly sweet, bros? It's doing things to me.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:20:38 UTC No. 15910551
>>15909746
The whole point of Starship is that it should be much more reusable than a Falcon. The plan is to launch it a couple hundred times over a few years before putting people on it.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:21:10 UTC No. 15910553
>>15910471
I don't see much diversity in that image.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:22:20 UTC No. 15910555
>>15910521
meds
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:22:49 UTC No. 15910559
>>15910545
>bait
Germany literally lost the war because Von Braun scammed them into investing in rockets which couldn't do their intended job (precision strikes on infrastructure)
Then America wasted 2% of its gdp for years because they got scammed into thinking there would be a space economy of millions of people
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:23:21 UTC No. 15910561
>>15910525
this, he only got where he was because he had competent underlings that could guide him
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:27:11 UTC No. 15910571
>>15910559
>implying Germany would have won the war had the V2 been a PGM
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:28:30 UTC No. 15910575
>>15910559
>von Braun helped us save Europe
What a great man
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:29:14 UTC No. 15910577
>>15910575
have you seen europe lately?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:30:22 UTC No. 15910578
>>15910571
How would you defend against them with WW2 flak?
Himmler stockpiled 200 V2s because Von Braun promised they could blow up every bridge on the Rhine to stop the American advance. I wonder rhow that worked out LMAO.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:31:14 UTC No. 15910581
>>15910577
Yes, people often say it's a better place to live than USA.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:32:31 UTC No. 15910584
>>15910581
most of them don't even have cars.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:35:00 UTC No. 15910589
>>15910578
The allies would not need to defend against PGM V2s, because Germany would not be able to make enough of them to turn the tide of the war, and even if they could precisely hit where they were aimed you would still have a serious problem knowing where to aim them in the first place.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:35:12 UTC No. 15910590
The Moon is built for Broad Black Colonization. Whites will colonize Mars.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:35:13 UTC No. 15910591
>>15910584
Is this what they told you on xitter?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:35:31 UTC No. 15910592
>>15910581
Not for very long though lol
t. European
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:37:45 UTC No. 15910595
>>15910589
that'd why they needed to put up manned spysats which von braun also promised.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:39:00 UTC No. 15910599
>>15910592
Your entire continent is getting filled with africans and poojeets, all around bad place. Iceland doesnt seem to be getting the same migrants.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:39:01 UTC No. 15910600
>>15910595
von Braun didn't promise manned satellites on a timeline relevant to the outcome of the war. Try again.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:39:08 UTC No. 15910601
>>15910592
You’re the one voting to import Arab cock to fuck your wife by the shipload
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:43:25 UTC No. 15910607
>>15910599
>t. latinx
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:45:07 UTC No. 15910610
>>15910607
Youre right but I'm native born and that name is a pile of dog shit.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:45:15 UTC No. 15910611
>>15910599
I wish there was anywhere left to escape to, but it's the same everywhere...
>>15910601
Actually, most people are voting for anti-immigration, but glorious, glorious democracy made it possible for the remaining left-leaning parties to team up and exclude the largest party (which is anti-immigration) for the second time.
Maybe we'll get lucky and no government gets formed so there can be a revote where the largest party gets large enough to no longer be excluded.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:46:24 UTC No. 15910612
Own nothing, be happy.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:49:32 UTC No. 15910620
Best /sfg/ yet, post IFT-2
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:52:11 UTC No. 15910622
>>15910611
Voting won't fix anything, lmao.
Have you seen how great it worked for Italy after that far-right fascist won?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:53:51 UTC No. 15910627
>>15910524
Amazing! imagine how much this shit would cost if we let nasa build it
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:54:43 UTC No. 15910629
>>15910622
Oh, I agree; I've voted exactly once in my life when I turned 18 just before the election. Those results sure were a wake-up call.
People have been brainwashed from birth to believe that their vote counts and that not voting just isn't an option.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:55:56 UTC No. 15910633
>>15910549
i work with a jewish princess. huge boobies. had the pleasure of sucking them
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:56:54 UTC No. 15910634
>>15910633
Join the tribe.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:58:53 UTC No. 15910636
>>15909925
Why is the onboard shots awful quality?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Dec 2023 23:59:50 UTC No. 15910637
>>15910633
I'm jelly
Astranon at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:00:24 UTC No. 15910639
>>15910636
Onboard streaming video is really, really fucking hard to get right. It's harder than the actual flight software.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:02:16 UTC No. 15910642
>>15910636
>why are these cameras strapped to the outside of the largest rocket ever lower quality than i want them to be.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:04:38 UTC No. 15910646
>>15910642
Yes, why?
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:05:21 UTC No. 15910647
>>15910642
compared to falcon 9 onboard footage, yeah, it's shit
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:05:21 UTC No. 15910648
>>15910646
selfish little fuck
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:08:48 UTC No. 15910653
>>15910627
CLPS will save commercial space
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:13:22 UTC No. 15910660
>>15910639
so what you're saying is it's not that easy in
Astranon at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:15:18 UTC No. 15910667
>>15910660
video telemetry
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:21:40 UTC No. 15910682
boiloff is not a problem
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:27:09 UTC No. 15910687
>>15910682
for you
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:32:56 UTC No. 15910700
i love black people, we must put them on the moon and bleach them.
Astranon at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:36:42 UTC No. 15910706
>>15910700
*grind them up into fertilizer for the colonies
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:46:33 UTC No. 15910712
is your name a reference to Astarion from Baldurs Gate 3? if so Pog!
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:50:52 UTC No. 15910714
>>15910712
Who?
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 00:51:58 UTC No. 15910715
>>15910340
3 launches, 16 launches, yeah it doesn't matter if you never launch anything
>>15910347
aka Below Orbit
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 01:28:47 UTC No. 15910748
>>15910577
>Mutt thinks Europe is one country
Many such cases!
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 01:38:38 UTC No. 15910761
>>15910748
well west and north europe then
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 01:40:29 UTC No. 15910765
>>15910748
Shut up yuroid go freeze to death and have your wife raped by shitskin mudslimes.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 02:16:06 UTC No. 15910805
>>15910804
Where do these startups get the funding?
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 02:21:35 UTC No. 15910818
>>15910804
Lmao they are working on a rocket called "Kang"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pytho
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 02:27:51 UTC No. 15910830
>>15910805
Gullible VC that are pissed they couldnt get in on SpaceX so they cope with other companies and just lose money.
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 02:33:34 UTC No. 15910835
>>15910818
>WE
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 02:41:05 UTC No. 15910843
>>15910835
>WUZ
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 02:52:52 UTC No. 15910865
>Falcon 9 first landed 8 years ago
>there is still no comparable competitor on the horizon
What an abysmal state. How can other rocket outfits even sleep at night?
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 02:57:37 UTC No. 15910870
If nobody else is baking I suppose I must
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 02:58:30 UTC No. 15910871
>>15910870
prepare for an autist to accuse you of doing it wrong
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 03:00:09 UTC No. 15910876
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 03:45:27 UTC No. 15910918
>>15910521
Did he smash a 43inch oled in front of his family and paced back and forth
Anonymous at Fri, 8 Dec 2023 08:14:18 UTC No. 15911133
>>15908971
you're the tranny aren't you...