🧵 Vulcan Centaur maiden flight
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jan 2024 22:27:22 UTC No. 15962257
ULA's new rocket is going to be lifting off in a few bings, and will be sending the the Peregine lander to one of the moon's poles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ6
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jan 2024 22:29:21 UTC No. 15962259
>>15962257
Its just going to scrub.
Anonymous at Sun, 7 Jan 2024 22:44:36 UTC No. 15962280
>>15962259
That's always a possibility
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 00:06:03 UTC No. 15962429
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 00:48:29 UTC No. 15962489
>>15962429
Generals are cancer
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 01:06:07 UTC No. 15962512
>>15962257
just 6 years late
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 01:23:30 UTC No. 15962532
>>15962512
Bro, every rocket is late. Both SLS and Falcon Heavy fly 5 years after they were initially slated to do so.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 01:38:14 UTC No. 15962557
>>15962532
You're comparing engine development with rocket development...
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 01:50:19 UTC No. 15962579
>>15962557
Oh, I thought you were talking about the rocket in general and not the BE-4s specifically. But then again developing new engines is expensive and takes forever as well
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 02:35:49 UTC No. 15962630
Since be-4 is methalox, does that mean the exhaust is gonna be blue?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 02:38:25 UTC No. 15962631
>>15962630
yes, just like our blue origin
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 03:09:21 UTC No. 15962667
>>15962631
>our
Jeff is that you?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 03:40:25 UTC No. 15962714
Who's betting on an explosion?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 03:49:25 UTC No. 15962727
>>15962667
our blue origin is the earth
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 05:49:22 UTC No. 15962867
how are we feeling ulasisters?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 05:57:31 UTC No. 15962878
>>15962867
Breddy Gud, though Tory does needs to bring back the 'stash
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:01:23 UTC No. 15962881
>>15962878
he did
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:02:20 UTC No. 15962883
>>15962881
Excellent
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:03:34 UTC No. 15962885
my favorite part to watch is when the rocket lands
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:32:31 UTC No. 15962932
>>15962927
I have no idea how much weight the pain for the V adds, but its one hell of a logo.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:34:40 UTC No. 15962937
45 minute launch window
at 2:18 est
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:40:46 UTC No. 15962955
you are now aware that the Vulcan logo is a smoking cigarette
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:42:29 UTC No. 15962961
>>15962955
Honestly pretty fitting, seems like it would fit her >>15962927 attitude.
Nice dubs btw
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:54:33 UTC No. 15962998
ula amanda cute
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 06:56:18 UTC No. 15963002
>proceeding for an on time liftoff
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:01:13 UTC No. 15963016
Spacex bros, I'm not feeling good...
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:02:03 UTC No. 15963019
>>15963017
this is a very innovative engineless rocket
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:03:09 UTC No. 15963020
>>15963019
At this point I wouldn't be surprised to find out they used another engine.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:03:35 UTC No. 15963022
>>15963019
This, the mEMe drive actually turned out to be real
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:03:49 UTC No. 15963023
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:04:14 UTC No. 15963025
>>15963017
no, it never got the engines. not sure how they plan on launching tonight but we'll see
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:05:32 UTC No. 15963028
>>15963025
look at her shoes
>>15962927
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:08:10 UTC No. 15963032
What's the countdown?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:08:38 UTC No. 15963035
>>15962927
She has stylish engines now! aaaaaaaaAAA
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:10:34 UTC No. 15963044
WERE GOOD TO GO LADS
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:10:43 UTC No. 15963045
Is everyone in mission control an intern?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:10:57 UTC No. 15963047
>>15963032
~11m
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:11:26 UTC No. 15963049
All the systems are go, ALL THE SYSTEMS ARE GO
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:11:45 UTC No. 15963051
>>15963045
gen alpha launch commentators be like
>we have liftoff of the sigma rocket fr fr
>we are going through the period of maximum rizz on the sigma rocket
>adin ross reports skibidi trajectory
>we have SECO fr fr no cap
>we have a skibidi insertion into ohio orbit fr
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:11:47 UTC No. 15963052
>>15963045
There are probably no interns in mission control. ULA laid off a large amount of their older workers a few years back so it's a very young company now (especially because Denver).
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:19:01 UTC No. 15963094
>>15962257
Godspeed
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:20:27 UTC No. 15963104
AAAAAA
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:21:10 UTC No. 15963110
>>15962630
turns out you can't really see the exhaust because of the bright ass srbs
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:21:10 UTC No. 15963112
MUN OR BUST
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:21:52 UTC No. 15963120
>>15963093
>rocket that's 5.4m in diameter is thicc
nice
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:22:11 UTC No. 15963123
So when will it get to the moon
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:23:43 UTC No. 15963133
>>15963125
This webm is terrible and I hope bad things happen to you.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:25:11 UTC No. 15963145
>>15963133
All of this due to blackface musk?Calm down dude
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:26:13 UTC No. 15963151
alright things look good.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:26:20 UTC No. 15963154
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:27:21 UTC No. 15963159
what's the point of this when spacex already figured out launch? this is a pathetic knockoff, lmao
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:30:08 UTC No. 15963172
>>15963159
It's optimized for sending payloads for deep space missions
Also, the government doesn't want to rely on only one launch company for their military payloads
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:31:03 UTC No. 15963174
>>15963159
having more than one company is 'worth' it
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:33:18 UTC No. 15963181
>>15963159
Centaur is a high energy upper stage good for GTO and TLI.
In a perfect world we would see the government forcing ULA and SpaceX to make a Falcon 9 / Centaur LV.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:35:26 UTC No. 15963188
>>15963172
>government doesn't want to rely on only one launch company
Commercial companies too, you wouldn't want to be stuck with one launch vehicle or launch provider
>>15963181
>Falcon 9 / Centaur LV
Nah, part of the Falcon 9's low cost is the fact that it has the same diameter and uses Kerosene/LOX on both stages. F9 is better optimized for LEO, while VC can better reach higher orbits, they're specialized for different things.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:40:18 UTC No. 15963211
>>15963188
>Nah, part of the Falcon 9's low cost...
True, they are different enough roles to justify 2 LVs.
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:42:30 UTC No. 15963217
why are /sfg/ posters such desperate attention whores that they can't post their spaceflight posts to the appropriate location and instead insist on spamming up the board with unwanted spaceflight threads?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:43:28 UTC No. 15963219
I want to FUCK the Astrobiotic woman!!!
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:44:08 UTC No. 15963221
>>15963172
Can it compete on cost with Falcons?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:44:22 UTC No. 15963222
>>15963219
She's single!
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:44:52 UTC No. 15963226
>>15963217
Kys faggot, I don't even go to /sfg/
t. OP
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:46:50 UTC No. 15963229
>>15963221
For a LEO mission the F9 can do? No.
Can an F9 put 12 tons into TLI? No.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:46:56 UTC No. 15963230
>>15963217
no!
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:47:25 UTC No. 15963231
>>15963222
you're kidding, that's just too good to be true
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:48:13 UTC No. 15963235
>>15963217
Launch of a new LV is very rare, I think you can deal with it.
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:48:46 UTC No. 15963237
how come they have a retarded crosseyed mutt bitch for an anchor?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:49:31 UTC No. 15963239
>>15963217
tongue my anus
🗑️ Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:49:47 UTC No. 15963240
now she's talking to an obese chiness faggot
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:52:20 UTC No. 15963246
>>15963237
>>15963240
What stream(s) are you watching?
>>15963241
In about ~10 bings
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:54:34 UTC No. 15963251
>>15963246
Thanks anon, I'm sticking around now I know it's not 5 orbits.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:55:13 UTC No. 15963253
>>15963229
Well can you buy a heavy for the same or cheaper to do that? I guess you might run availability constraints from SpaceX. Especially if you want to expend cores.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:57:45 UTC No. 15963254
>>15963253
VC is around the same price as a FH, also the Falcon Heavy is limited the Payload attach fitting, so if you wanted to launch bigger payloads you need to rebuild the 2nd stage. There are more design considerations than just $/kg to LEO
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 07:58:13 UTC No. 15963256
>>15963253
The Vulcan is flying today, who knows how long it'll be until SpaceX has several BFRs and LEO refueling working.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 08:20:52 UTC No. 15963297
Does anyone have an idea if ULA is still considering Vulcan Heavy?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 08:22:42 UTC No. 15963302
>>15963297
no, she's on a diet
stop forcing your fat fetish on her >:(
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 08:26:22 UTC No. 15963312
>>15963302
You know I wasn't going to go with that angle, but its just been rumored that Elf-san is getting an anime >>>/a/261560844 so maybe I will.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 08:31:45 UTC No. 15963322
>>15963312
Holy guacamole
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 08:37:53 UTC No. 15963334
Last burn
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 08:38:43 UTC No. 15963338
spaceX btfo forever
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 10:07:45 UTC No. 15963468
>>15963123
The last week of February
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 11:13:41 UTC No. 15963546
>>15962512
Years post covid aren't real so actually just 2 years late
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 14:15:15 UTC No. 15963717
For a maiden flight, this thread is practically barren. Goes to show that nobody really cares about it
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 14:17:56 UTC No. 15963719
Well there's not much to say about it until the lander reaches the moon in 6 weeks.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 15:03:19 UTC No. 15963766
>>15963719
Six weeks? I thought it was a three-day trip to the moon.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 15:08:30 UTC No. 15963778
>>15963766
It'll be reaching lunar orbit in a few days buts its going to be in orbit for a while before it lands.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 15:22:27 UTC No. 15963797
>>15963719
>>15963766
>>15963778
I have some bad news anons...
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 15:24:27 UTC No. 15963802
>>15963797
What? Has Peregrine just now become like the 4th lunar lander to experience a failure in the last 2 years?
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 16:32:09 UTC No. 15963898
>>15963802
The moon men have a strict border-control policy.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 16:58:04 UTC No. 15963929
>>15962932
We're ditching the logo after Cert-2, unless the customer pays for it. Wasted weight
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 17:00:21 UTC No. 15963935
>>15963052
Correct
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 17:03:15 UTC No. 15963938
>>15963297
Yes but the designs are premature and very stupid
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 18:15:50 UTC No. 15964075
>>15963949
it's over
>>15964013
we're back
>>15964074
it's over
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 18:26:46 UTC No. 15964115
Vulcan Heavy may someday come about. It's on the drawing board right now. Starship is real. You've seen it down at Boca Chica. We're building the core stage. We have all the engines done, ready to be put on the test stand at Starbase.. I don't see any hardware for a Vulcan Heavy, except that he's going to take three Vulcans and put them together and that becomes the Heavy. It's not that easy in rocketry.
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 18:28:32 UTC No. 15964121
>>15964115
>It's not that easy in rocketry
>Literally what SpaceX did with FH
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 18:42:59 UTC No. 15964165
>>15964074
>not fake
damn you
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 19:15:24 UTC No. 15964263
>>15964121
Taking this seriously for no particular reason, isn't Musk on record saying FH did indeed turn out to be a lot harder than expected...
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 19:43:31 UTC No. 15964381
>>15964121
also
>Literally what ULA did with DIVH
>Literally what Khrunichev did with Angara
that's what makes Charlie's remark so funny
Anonymous at Mon, 8 Jan 2024 20:07:27 UTC No. 15964438
>>15963719
its dead
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jan 2024 01:14:34 UTC No. 15965299
>>15964438
>>15964074
>Chandryaan 2 fails for some unspecified reason
>Hakuto-R fails because of the computer misjudging the altitude
>Beresheet fails because of a stuck valve
>Luna-25 fails due to loss of communication and overburning during an orbital maneuver
>Peregrine has a critical fuel leak that cripples the mission
Damn, lunar probes have been eating shit these past few years even with the successes going on
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jan 2024 02:59:41 UTC No. 15965428
>>15965299
The moon is a harsh mistress. Luna wants only the boldest and bravest.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jan 2024 03:17:43 UTC No. 15965444
>>15965428
Its funny, given some have already been declaring the mars curse is over given how many successes there have been since the begining of the century, and now there's problems landing probes of the moon.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jan 2024 03:21:49 UTC No. 15965451
>>15965444
it's because the tech used to get to the moon cannot be replicated anymore, get with the times gramps
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jan 2024 04:54:21 UTC No. 15965514
Astrobotic removed the Diversity, Equity & Inclusion statement from their website, so it seems likely that they already know who is responsible for the failure and why someone incapable of doing their job was hired.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jan 2024 07:12:37 UTC No. 15965638
>>15965514
Seems a lot less kiked then usual but they still failed
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jan 2024 08:22:06 UTC No. 15965707
>>15963949
>>15964013
>>15964074
We don't need paperclip 2, we need to accept the free market isn't the answer to everything and the government and handle long returns on investment better than the market.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jan 2024 08:31:45 UTC No. 15965713
>>15965707
There's nothing inherently wrong with public-private partnerships. That being said NASA shouldn't be leaning so heavily on it, see HLS, because there are cases where there aren't going to be many commercial applications.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jan 2024 08:34:30 UTC No. 15965715
>>15965713
The fundamental issue is the market expects a return, what is the expected ROI for this mission?
If it's under 0% (it is) then using public money is simply funneling funds into an unsustainable private business model.
🗑️ Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jan 2024 09:48:07 UTC No. 15965773
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jan 2024 11:11:28 UTC No. 15965820
>>15963766
Apollo took ~3 days because it had a big J-2 engine to raise it's apogee all the way out to the moon in one burn. Very important to reduce the life support requirements for the mission.
These little landers we've been sending lately have small low thrust engines, so they have to do multiple acceleration burns over a period of weeks. Efficiency wins over speed when there is no crew onboard.
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jan 2024 11:16:09 UTC No. 15965826
>>15965820
TLI for peregrine was done by the Centaur's second stage, its already on its way to the moon, its just that it needed to complete a highly eccentric orbit for it to pass near the moon and then it was going to spend over a month in a highly elliptic orbit before landing
Anonymous at Tue, 9 Jan 2024 19:36:33 UTC No. 15966487
>>15965299
>Buying from the lowest bidder
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jan 2024 02:25:13 UTC No. 15967235
>>15966487
I don't believe Peregrine was the lowest of the contractors that won awards for CLPS. And I don't think Russia, India, Israel, and Japan operate on lowest bidder contracts to the degree it is in the US
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jan 2024 04:26:18 UTC No. 15967385
Okay so the mission was a success for the launch vehicle. Does this mean ULA will start cranking out these rockets to take some market share from SpaceX?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jan 2024 04:30:38 UTC No. 15967391
>>15967385
Rockets usually have some contracts before they even fly, Vulcan is no different in that it already has a bunch of NatSex and prject Kuiper payloads.
Barkun at Wed, 10 Jan 2024 04:35:45 UTC No. 15967398
Stop making these SILLY space threads. Space is nothing buttnerd.
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jan 2024 17:14:38 UTC No. 15968246
>>15967385
apart from the contracts they already negotiated, i somewhat doubt they'll be able to take back a share of the commercial market.
ULA has made strides in making their production more efficient, but in the end it's still a disposable rocket and they're not really close to the falcon family's price/performance ratio except in really high energy trajectories which are mostly government launches, the vast majority of commercial launches are LEO to GEO
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jan 2024 20:16:17 UTC No. 15968546
>>15965826
So what happens now? It will remain in the eccentric orbit forever or it will pass near the Earth atmosphere close enough and will eventually reenter?
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jan 2024 23:03:23 UTC No. 15968799
>>15962257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqv
Vulcan Cert-1 Rocket Cam
So many views we didn't see during the launch livestream
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jan 2024 23:11:04 UTC No. 15968813
>>15968799
nice Earth view at the end of video
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jan 2024 23:13:03 UTC No. 15968818
>>15968799
Performance off, but ball park. Understandable since proprietary. Doesn’t quite understand low energy vs high or their architectures. Did not avail large set of public pricing on NSSL P2. Vulcan substantially cheaper, with > than 30% price advantage in high energy:
Solid 6/10
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jan 2024 23:18:05 UTC No. 15968824
Valve post https://twitter.com/667e11/status/1
Anonymous at Wed, 10 Jan 2024 23:23:32 UTC No. 15968838
>>15962927
I want to pull down her reusable shorts and fuck her navel
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jan 2024 04:11:11 UTC No. 15969337
>>15968546
They're hoping to repurpose it as a lunar orbiter, the fuel issues the lander is having ruled out going down to the moon, but keeping it in orbit is the best way to partially salvage the mission.
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:16:05 UTC No. 15969678
another billion dollars completely wasted by nasa.
an yet again there will be nobody held responsible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWE
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jan 2024 15:15:38 UTC No. 15970032
>>15969678
>oooh...
>husbant...
>you spend to much money on space slight
>now we are homeress....
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:11:33 UTC No. 15970101
Are we just gonna let any asshole with enough money dump their junk on the moon now as a fundraiser for NASA? Feels wrong to me, shouldnt the rest of the world get a say?
Anonymous at Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:23:15 UTC No. 15970117
Update #12 for Peregrine Mission One
As Peregrine emerges from a planned communications blackout with NASA’s DSN ground network, we’re pleased to announce the team’s efforts to gather payload data have been fruitful. We have successfully received data from all 9 payloads designed to communicate with the lander. All 10 payloads requiring power have received it, while the remaining 10 payloads aboard the spacecraft are passive.
These payloads have now been able to prove operational capability in space and payload teams are analyzing the impact of this development now. We are proud of the mission team for achieving this incredible feat under such challenging circumstances. Below are a list of payloads that have received power:
– (pictured) Iris Lunar Rover from Carnegie Mellon University. At the bottom of the overexposed image sent from Peregrine in space are the Iris rover’s wheels. To its left is a fuel tank with the American flag.
– COLMENA from LINX-UNAM (together with Agencia Espacial Mexicana (AEM))
– M-42 Radiation Detector from the German Aerospace Center (DLR)
– Linear Energy Transfer Spectrometer (LETS) from NASA’s Johnson Space Center
– Near-Infrared Volatile Spectrometer System (NIRVSS) from NASA’s Ames Research Center
– Neutron Spectrometer System (NSS) from NASA’s Ames Research Center
– Peregrine Ion Trap Mass Spectrometer (PITMS) from NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, The Open University (OU), NASA, and the European Space Agency (ESA).
– Pocari Sweat’s Lunar Dream Time Capsule from Astroscale
– Optical Precision Autonomous Landing (OPAL) TRN sensor from Astrobotic
– (a subsystem) Navigation Doppler Lidar (NDL) from NASA’s Langley Research Center
Please stay tuned for more information and a link to a forthcoming media telecon.
Anonymous at Fri, 12 Jan 2024 05:59:19 UTC No. 15971365
>>15970101
The outer space treaty permits it, the moon is effectively a commons.
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jan 2024 01:46:41 UTC No. 15972971
>>15970101
>noooo you can't just litter on the moon!!!
why not? its already a lifeless wasteland, what being hurt?
>noooooo!!! i own the whole universe and you can't do anything to it without my permission!!! its not fair!!!
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases
Anonymous at Sat, 13 Jan 2024 22:08:45 UTC No. 15974663
>>15974286
its going well
Anonymous at Sun, 14 Jan 2024 12:58:32 UTC No. 15975637
>>15974827
>can't even be repurposed as a lunar orbiter
F