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🧵 /sfg/ - Spaceflight General

Anonymous No. 15974079

BC Development Edition

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Anonymous No. 15974081

>Angara-100 The Angara-100 was a 2005 proposal by Khrunichev to build a heavy-lift launch vehicle for NASA's Vision for Space Exploration. The rocket would consist of four RD-170-powered boosters, an RD-180-powered core stage, and a cryogenic upper stage using a modified Energia RD-0120 engine, the RD-0122. Its payload capacity to LEO would be in excess of 100 tons.

All the pieces are there.
Build it.

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Anonymous No. 15974083

first for tom mueller

Anonymous No. 15974084

>>15974083
Wew nice rockets

Anonymous No. 15974086

Has any work been spotted at SLC-6?

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Anonymous No. 15974088

>>15974085
Don't all Americans work super long hours?

Anonymous No. 15974092

There's a housewife shortage for the men working at starbase. We can't even solve the little things on earth, how can we expect to start a new civilization on another planet?

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Anonymous No. 15974095

>>15974092
Just buy a wife from SEA if you're that desperate.

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Anonymous No. 15974096

>>15974088
Far more than the rest at SpaceX. Thats most if not all of the complaints. Its fulfilling work though and you will have great coworkers, but expect to have no time to yourself

Anonymous No. 15974098

How long until flight test 3? If someone responds with 2 weeks I will take that as 4 months.

Anonymous No. 15974099

>>15974093
Not spaceflight kill yourself

Anonymous No. 15974100

>>15974098
February

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Anonymous No. 15974102

>>15974093
No fucking way

Anonymous No. 15974104

>>15974098
They directly stated preparations will be done in January and February is likely when license arrives. Basically, two weeks.

Anonymous No. 15974105

Musk's jets aren't Boeing are they?

Anonymous No. 15974106

>>15974088
I work 8-4 with an hour lunchbreak in oldspace

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Anonymous No. 15974107

>>15973951
What would be the cosmological implications of the universe not being isotropic?

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Anonymous No. 15974108

>>15974105
Gulfstream 650 or 700

Anonymous No. 15974109

>>15974098
between now and 7 weeks from now

Anonymous No. 15974110

>>15974081
The RD-170 and 180 are available. It's debatable if the tooling for the RD-0120 is still around. If it is, it's been collecting dust since the 1990s and you'd need to spend as much restarting the production line as you would doing the same for the RS-25. Russian finances being what they are this would be a considerable problem.

There's also the problem that you can't still an RD-170/180 in a URM-1 module, so you couldn't use the established Angara pads or GSE. The A-100 would have to be a Zenit superheavy somewhere other than Vostochny. Funding that is going to be an even worse problem than revivifying the RD-0120. It's taken almost a decade to get Site 1A functional at Vostochny and you could write a Game of Thrones rippoff chronicling the findom and corruption that's plagued the project.

And then Russia would need a 100 ton payload that they're willing to pay for.

Anonymous No. 15974115

>>15974101
too soon!

Anonymous No. 15974117

>>15974106
Lazy fucking bastard and you dont work in the space industry at all.

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Anonymous No. 15974118

Ariane Ultimate
>SSTO, using a 450s Isp monopropellant, reusable

Anonymous No. 15974119

Also Vera C Rubin telescope first light apparently delayed to 2025. It's so over. Does someone know if Euclid has discovered something already?

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Anonymous No. 15974121

>>15974119
yes, a few things euclid did discover

Anonymous No. 15974122

>>15974121
Funny because the telescope will debunk non-euclidian geometry

Anonymous No. 15974123

>>15974121
i hate math proofs so much they make zero fucking sense. you have to be some kind of giga autist to like this shit.

Anonymous No. 15974124

>>15974119
>Does someone know if Euclid has discovered something already?
A straight line can be extended indefinitely.

Anonymous No. 15974126

>>15974081
Why would the core stage be less powerful than the boosters? I thought the core stage was supposed to provide more of the thrust at liftoff since it is usually bigger, and the boosters would be added for marginal thrust upgrades.

Anonymous No. 15974127

>>15974123
Reminds me of when I was reading Newton's Principia. It was full of beautiful geometrical proofs.

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Anonymous No. 15974130

https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/01/military-officials-foresee-launch-ranges-becoming-more-like-airports/

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Anonymous No. 15974131

>>15974118
I really want to know what propellant they're proposing that'll make those numbers work.

It's not the worst design, but it was better back when it was hydrolox and two stage. Arianespace should have gone after it in the 1980s.

Anonymous No. 15974134

>>15974130
he doesn't address the worker/housewife issue at all in this brief article.

Anonymous No. 15974135

>>15974134
Shut up youre not funny

Anonymous No. 15974136

>>15974134
Optimus sexbots

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15974138

>>15974130
>

"We’re looking at how can we develop farther south of Vandenberg and bring the roads, power, and commodities out to that southern portion of Vandenberg," Horne said. "So we have a little more land available at Vandenberg, but we’re pretty much at capacity at the Cape.”

how about building artificial island to extend cape canaveral?

Anonymous No. 15974140

>>15974130
> "We’re looking at how can we develop farther south of Vandenberg and bring the roads, power, and commodities out to that southern portion of Vandenberg," Horne said. "So we have a little more land available at Vandenberg, but we’re pretty much at capacity at the Cape.”

how about building artificial island to extend cape canaveral?

Anonymous No. 15974141

>>15974138
Do you know how hard people would scream? Also, fuggin' hurricanes would make maintaining it a total bitch.

Anonymous No. 15974142

>>15974108
That cockpit is sexo

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Anonymous No. 15974144

https://spacenews.com/momentus-low-on-cash-delays-next-mission/
> The company said in November that it has signed up seven customers who planned to deploy satellites on Vigoride-7 and two other customers who would operate hosted payloads on the vehicle, but did not identify then. Momentus also intended to fly a rendezvous and proximity operations demonstration on the vehicle as part of its long-term plans for reusable tugs.

Anonymous No. 15974146

SPACfags in shambles

Anonymous No. 15974148

>>15974141
the area next to cape canaveral needs to be depopulated for more launch pad space

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Anonymous No. 15974151

https://europeanspaceflight.com/uk-based-blue-abyss-to-build-astronaut-training-facility-in-ohio/

Anonymous No. 15974154

>>15974130
Florida can only support 150 launches. This is bad

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Anonymous No. 15974155

https://twitter.com/peterrhague/status/1746134121611456817

Anonymous No. 15974159

>>15974155
Cargo will definitely go in 2026, wtf is he smoking

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Anonymous No. 15974161

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMrz8L_4KJ8

Anonymous No. 15974162

>>15974159
It won't. What are you smoking?

Anonymous No. 15974163

>>15974155
I think 2026 for the first cargo or research/test flights to Mars is definitely feasible since Elon Musk claims that Starship is already orbit worthy, the biggest issue is getting Martian reentry correct since there's no way SpaceX can do their rapid development on Mars unless they send like 20 Starships there to collect a huge mass of data from various reentries. Instead they have to do it the oldspace way of models and simulations.

Anonymous No. 15974165

>>15974155
Damn It's so over. Cargo was supposed to go in 2020

Anonymous No. 15974166

>spaceflight general
>doesn't fly
>doesn't go to space
>no flag officers
pathetic

Anonymous No. 15974167

>>15974159
Musk said they hope to get propellant transfer working by the end of this year, but definitely end of next year
A mars starship would need to have pretty good boiloff mitigation as well and on top of this they would have to dedicate launches for first testing uncrewed landing on the moon and then be ready for Artemis 3 in September 2026
as the tweet says this would require a fast ramp, doing HLS stuff and Mars cargo simultaneously needs a lot of propellant launches

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Anonymous No. 15974168

>>15974118
>monopropellant
disgusting

Anonymous No. 15974170

>>15974166
It's me, I'm the Space Flight General Officer here, I command the Space Flight

Anonymous No. 15974173

>>15974170
Newfag

Anonymous No. 15974174

>>15974163
yeah its possible but there is a lot of stuff to do and if something gets delayed then the window is missed
martian re-entry can be somewhat simulated in the upper atmosphere with similar atmospheric pressures, but yeah rapid iteration is not that easy this time
iteration will happen of course, but not very rapid
I guess they could send a number of different cargo ships to try different hardware simultaneously and see which one works best, but that is even more work

Anonymous No. 15974178

>>15974168
One truth, one propellent, one love

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Anonymous No. 15974191

So do they have an idea on how to mitigate boiloff? Simply point the tiles toward the sun or something else?

Anonymous No. 15974194

>>15974165
you're a fool for thinking that timeline was possible in the first place, even before the coof

Anonymous No. 15974195

>>15974194
I believed Elon

Anonymous No. 15974222

>>15974194
Rather a fool and dream than be dead inside for the last 8 years.

Anonymous No. 15974242

>https://www.space.com/this-week-in-space-episode-93-america-and-the-moon
Questions about public support for NASA

Anonymous No. 15974243

>>15974106
>oldspace
>work
okay

Anonymous No. 15974244

>>15974131
>pic
I wonder how it feels to be one of the first ever engineer to propose something novel and not be given attention because bean counters and bureaucrats don't care about your shit, even though it could be beneficial for everyone, even the whole society

Anonymous No. 15974245

>>15974123
Put a little more effort into it

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Anonymous No. 15974250

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMrz8L_4KJ8
> Starbase Weekly, Ep.103: IFT-3 Slowly Coming!

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Anonymous No. 15974259

>>15974244
Miserable. Such is the curse of being a European spaceflight engineer.

That said, this is just a more reasonable implementation of Phil Bono's reusability ideas from the 1960s. He advocated VTVL and aerospikes and spent three decades watching those ideas go nowhere.

Anonymous No. 15974264

i need an internship
this process is killing me

Anonymous No. 15974271

>quadpropellant

Anonymous No. 15974272

>>15974264
which process

Anonymous No. 15974276

>best propellant no propellant

Anonymous No. 15974278

>>15974272
cover letter, application, interview, rinse and repeat 300 times

Anonymous No. 15974281

>>15974278
Meanwhile me in Europe going to interviews and just rejecting every job offered. Feels good being Euro for once.

Anonymous No. 15974282

>>15974271
which ones?

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Anonymous No. 15974288

When will we get Gigaship bros?

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>>15974288
we will get a larger diameter starship before this

Anonymous No. 15974298

>>15974281
What industry are you in? I also hold a European citizenship however I've been looking mostly in the US for engineering internships and from what I've seen there aren't as many internship opportunities (They're mostly thesis programs?) in Europe or they aren't as "centralized"

Anonymous No. 15974301

>>15974288
dubs of destiny, it will be done
>>15974290
Would that make correspondingly larger diameter boosters or just cluster the existing ones they have?

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Anonymous No. 15974302

>>15974290
starship has a way to go diameter wise before it gets to hang with the big boys

Anonymous No. 15974307

>>15974301
having separate towers to catch a gigaship sounds kind of retarded

Anonymous No. 15974310

>>15974302
I like big butts

Anonymous No. 15974312

>>15974301
>Would that make correspondingly larger diameter boosters or just cluster the existing ones they have?
I would assume just making the booster diameter larger. Clustering boosters just adds a lot of additional problems you don't want. Musk said that FH was a much larger technical challenge than they were expecting, and even though they solved the problem with FH there's undoubtedly problems with a Starship Heavy as well.
Either way you would have to redesign the pad for a Starship Heavy and a larger diameter Starship. It makes more sense to create an entirely new class of booster compared to just sticking two more boosters on. I mean, that's exactly what they did with Falcon.
Also, can the core stage on FH even rtls? You would possible need to create an entire barge or repurpose an oil rig to land the center booster on a Starship Heavy. Sounds like even more of a headache.

Anonymous No. 15974324

>>15974307
I would think by the time they have a need to start strapping superheavies together, they will have achieved rapid reuse and have multiple launch towers at Kennedy built for high cadence SS/SH ops. Developing all new infrastructure to accommodate Thiccship seems like a lot of work if you've just finally build up everything for starship.
>>14974312
If there's a reason to launch something bigger than starship can handle and there hasn't yet been developed a larger class of launcher, then they may start strapping superheavies together as an interim solution just like Falcon Heavy.

Anonymous No. 15974327

>>15974324
but the problem is the "interim solution" is probably going to take as long to develop as just developing a thicker booster/ship in the first place

Anonymous No. 15974331

>>15974324
>Developing all new infrastructure to accommodate Thiccship seems like a lot of work if you've just finally build up everything for starship.
You still need to develop new infrastructure to accommodate Starship Heavy.
>>15974327
Exactly what this guy said. It's a matter of cost and time. If they had infinite money and resources than an interim solution makes sense. But we saw what happened with FH and the delays that program had. Also, will their workforce have more experience building large class rockets than can be relatively easily scaled a couple meters or will they have more experience integrating multiple boosters together onto a single launch vehicle? My hunch is that scaling a Starship/Booster 33% more would be a more worthwhile problem to solve compared to an already interim solution of Starship heavy.

Anonymous No. 15974332

the real question though, is would an 18 meter starship-gigaheavy system have bigger engines, or like 100 of them clustered?

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Anonymous No. 15974335

https://twitter.com/astrobotic/status/1746260132269379995
Peregrine is probably on a course to burn up in the atmosphere

Anonymous No. 15974336

>>15974332
100 clustered of course
designing a completely new engine would take a decade and they went with the small size for a reason (mass production)

Anonymous No. 15974338

>>15974335
any reason they can't burn every ounce of fuel they have left to try and get captured in lunar orbit?

Anonymous No. 15974339

>>15974338
Reason being the propellant leaked out due to shaken payload syndrome.

Anonymous No. 15974341

>>15974332
>>15974336
The problem here would be plumbing and reliability vs designing an brand new engine.
As you scale the number of engines you scale the pipes and plumbing as well which could include unforeseen technical problems and it might be more worth it to just design a brand new GigaRaptor or some shit. Nobody really knows the answer to this question.
Musk did mention having a nuclear starship so that would be cool. Idk if it will be on the current class of starship or on a future larger class

Anonymous No. 15974343

>>15974335
Imagine wanting to be "buried" in space and your remains end up being scattered on earth.

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 15974345

>>15974093
jesus boing

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Anonymous No. 15974349

>>15974345
>living condom
What?

Anonymous No. 15974351

>>15974345
Kill yourself
>>15974349
Dont mind them we just have a bunch of freak disgusting troon lovers in this general that havent ropes yet.

Anonymous No. 15974356

what's the point of having the starliner, dream chaser and crew dragon at the same time ?

Anonymous No. 15974359

>>15974093
statistically this is bound to happen. its because of boeing corporations SUCESS. because unlike SpaceX they actually have thousands of fligths per day.

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Anonymous No. 15974362

>>15974351
>troons out of nowhere
Are you okay?

Anonymous No. 15974364

>>15974341
i vaguely remember that getting about as far as asking the government if they can play with nuclear material and the government said "sure, give us 20 trillion dollars and 6 kilometers of paper work" or something like that

Anonymous No. 15974367

>>15974356
redundancy and competition or somethgin

Anonymous No. 15974371

>>15974349
>he doesn't know
>>15974351
futabu is a classic, you're a newfag projecting his own fetishes and you need to get out.

Anonymous No. 15974373

>>15974364
Yeah musk or shotwell said that its incredibly difficult to actually work with nuclear materials. Theyve probably abandoned that idea for now as they are pretty much all hands on deck for Starship. It's cool that they've considered it and it would be awesome if they revisit it in the future. They might just end up abandoning it all together but I would love a nuclear starship

Anonymous No. 15974376

>>15974373
>incredibly difficult to actually work with nuclear materials
It's difficult, but the red tape is a bigger issue.

Anonymous No. 15974377

>>15974376
>but the red tape is a bigger issue
thats what i meant, my fault

Anonymous No. 15974378

>>15974336
>>15974341
I think they will eventually develop a larger engine, and it would be a shame not to. They probably wouldn't want to go full F1 tier for a RaptorXL because they still want to have redundancy and throttle capabilities, but clustering 100 raptors would triple the complexity of the plumbing.

Anonymous No. 15974382

>>15974373
you would need significant government support to start changing the laws to be less restrictive
so maybe a republican admin that is positive towards musk or some non-biden democrat, though I don't see that happening in the next admin
its either a republican admin that might be positive towards musk, or a democrat admin again that continues the current anti-musk policy

Anonymous No. 15974388

>>15974364
>>15974373
>>15974378
They should just make a new electric engine to eventually replace the Raptors on the Starship upper stage. Electric is much better than nuclear. They already have that argon Hall thruster they use on starlinks, I would bet they could make something a lot stronger if they really tried. No red tape involved and electricity is right up Musk's alley

Anonymous No. 15974391

>>15974376
Once they set up a Mars base, they won't have to worry about red tape. At least until Uncle Sam comes along and sticks his big green wenie in it. How far would the USG let a spacex mars colony go before they decide to assert jurisdiction/ sovereignty over it

Anonymous No. 15974395

>>15974388
You'd still need a nuclear reactor for enough power to have any sort of useful thrust on something that massive.

Anonymous No. 15974397

>>15974391
Sorry to break the news but the U.S. is already taking steps to place FAA restrictions on other planets as well

Anonymous No. 15974398

>>15974388
I remember seeing some pic about electric thrusters when that argon hall thruster was revelead
some research/theory that you could make them much better, though you would need chemical engines for landing
not sure if it makes sense to have multiple different types of engines, that would make things pretty complicated
and what do you gain? a bit more mass or something? just make the starship bigger

Anonymous No. 15974401

>>15974371
What the fuck did you just make me look up, this is literal tranny porn you are sick in the head. You are the embodiment of https://youtu.be/TtjRViNYzJs?si=8ea3Z3lnMMJLV1nm this Ted 2 scene, seek mental help. The other anon was right for calling you a troon lover I see it now.

Anonymous No. 15974402

>>15974388
Yeah... no.
Ion thrusters are good for what they are. They require MASSIVE amounts of energy. You would practically need a nuclear reactor on board to power any meaningful amount of thrust from Ion thrusters for Starship. Methane is good enough for Mars.
Not to mention, hydrogen is much easier to produce for rocket fuel for Nuclear and you can still use Methane fueled NTP.

Anonymous No. 15974403

>>15974395
With all the new space inside (methane and LOX tanks replaced), you could fit some absolutely MASSIVE unfolding solar arrays inside those 9 meters.

Starship, especially the new Starship 2.0 has so much payload capacity both in size and mass it is unreal

Anonymous No. 15974404

>>15974401
You are wrong.

Anonymous No. 15974405

>>15974402
Hall thrusters are not the only type of electric rocket engine

Anonymous No. 15974409

>>15974401
>troon still upset about a classic bait he should've known about
how long have you been on this site?

Anonymous No. 15974410

>>15974371
>random offboarder addicted to tranny porn starts posting his dogshit on /sfg/
>other anon calls him out for it
>immediatly get defensive and start spewing 'youre projecting!!' in denial of own addiction to troon porn and calling anon newfag to discredit
>doesnt see the irony
yeah you might want to kill yourself, betting youre a troon in the closet too if youre watching this just rope up already its so obvious youre a tourist from the boeing news. heres some likeminded individuals to discuss best noose knotting methods >>>/lgbt/

Anonymous No. 15974424

>>15974410
>unfamiliar newfag gets baited by a reaction image
>gets EXTREMELY whiny and insecure about it
>creates a greentext of his own personal fantasy of what happened
mr troon i'm not gonna read your post, you're free to read mine though lmao.

Anonymous No. 15974427

I dont care. Off topic.

Anonymous No. 15974433

>>15974424
>>15974410
>>15974409
>>15974404
>>15974401
>>15974371
>>15974362
>>15974351
>>15974349
>>15974345
All of these anons are trans

Anonymous No. 15974435

>>15974409
Do you think about girls with cocks every day? you post about them every /sfg/

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Anonymous No. 15974440

that's it I'm getting me stonetoss

Anonymous No. 15974441

>>15974397
We're never getting off this rock, are we?

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Anonymous No. 15974444

we need to go back in time

Anonymous No. 15974445

>>15974441
see
>>15974444
Correct the mistakes of the past, fix the future

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Anonymous No. 15974446

>>15974435
literally the first time i ever posted that here lol.
here's another reaction image because it sends retards like you into a frothing rage. you really should stop giving me this much power over your emotional state.

Anonymous No. 15974447

>>15974441
you need government support so they don't block you i.e. Musk acquiring twitter

Anonymous No. 15974448

>>15974445
what's done is done

Anonymous No. 15974450

>>15974446
So you admit you're a discord tourist?

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Anonymous No. 15974453

>>15974450
>n-no stop posting things that i'm too new t-to know about
>y-you're a discord tourist
you really should stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

Anonymous No. 15974455

>>15974446
>it really was an offboard troon
kek

Anonymous No. 15974457

>>15974455
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT LIKE ANIME ON THE ANIME WEBSITE YOU'RE A TROOOON
guess how i know you're not from here?

Anonymous No. 15974458

>>15974453
back to /g/ faggot

Anonymous No. 15974459

Clearbros, rocketgirlbros, is this really who you want representing you?

Anonymous No. 15974460

>>15974457
I never said anime bad KEK getting so desperate to deny that your closetted to resort to making shit up just rope up already

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Anonymous No. 15974461

>>15974359
you don't see chucks randomly falling off Airbus planes

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Anonymous No. 15974462

>>15974459
no. rocketgirls are significantly more on topic than this shit

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15974464

>whiny niggerbaby calling me a discord tourist because i posted a nearly 10 year old image
oh man this is hilarious.

Anonymous No. 15974466

>>15974453
Who are you quoting?

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Anonymous No. 15974467

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Anonymous No. 15974468

>>15974462
Glad to establish that. You have earned my respect, I hope to see more.

Anonymous No. 15974469

>>15974466
i'm paraphrasing, i can read his mind you see.

Anonymous No. 15974471

>>15974467
ACCELERATE

Anonymous No. 15974472

>>15974462
Fucking adorable

Anonymous No. 15974475

>>15974448
What single change would you make if you could, to avert the future we find ourselves in now?

Anonymous No. 15974477

>>15974475
i would have gone out with the girl that liked me in high school

Anonymous No. 15974479

>>15974477
i would have reconnected with my childhood friend gf instead of pushing her away.

Anonymous No. 15974480

>>15974475
maybe prevent the 2008 meltdown?

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 15974481

i just got here can someone tell me why theres a newfag posting troon hentai? do we have another flat earther thats gonna post scat porn type situation?

Anonymous No. 15974482

>>15974480
how, by postponing it? would've only made it worse.

Anonymous No. 15974484

>>15974475
I would become a buttcoin billionaire and invested 90% of it into Armadillo Aerospace.

Anonymous No. 15974486

>>15974477
>>15974480
I meant in spaceflight, like put JFK in a headlock and carefully explain the Orion Project until he gets it.

Anonymous No. 15974487

notable upcoming launches
>17 JAN - cargo supply to the chinese station
>17 JAN - axiom 3 to the iss
>29 JAN - cygnus flying on falcon 9
>15 FEB - lunar mission carrying dogecoin payload
>?? FEB - crew 8 to the iss
>1 MAR - delta 4 heavy
>4 MAR - iss resupply
>18 MAR - queqiao lunar relay
>21 MAR - angara launch
>21 MAR - soyuz crew to iss

exciting times

Anonymous No. 15974490

>>15974481
>shellshocked newfag tries different approach after he got sandblasted
>thinks anyone is falling for it
anon, did i really hurt you this much? it's okay anon, you can admit you don't know about that reaction image because you're new, we were all newfags once.
>inb4 you use inspect element

Anonymous No. 15974493

>>15974467
Line Goes Up is very nice and impressive, but I'm a bit more interested about when we'll finally get a year without a launch failure. We've come close a few times.

Anonymous No. 15974495

>>15974493
the airline industry has had maybe a few years where there was never a major loss

Anonymous No. 15974496

>>15974493
not happening. It's like asking for a year without a car crash

Anonymous No. 15974497

>>15974490
lol schizophrenic too. tell me who collagefag was and what he did in this general real quick, and then what a spinsect is. hmm maybe who makes most of the rocketgirls posted here and one of their works? all this talk about newfags and you have yet to show the most basic proof you arent one.

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Anonymous No. 15974499

>>15974497
oh and one more thing, what is this equation and what does it represent.

Anonymous No. 15974501

>>15974497
you know, back in my day, people would just go
>eww that's disgusting hahaha
same thing if i posted 2 girls 1 cup or something, nowadays i have schizophrenic reddit transplants trying to build a court case on how posting a smug reaction image makes me a troon.
i swear if i could go back in time and kill every single nigger who thought they were welcome here during the trump era i would.

for now i'm just content to watch you have a meltdown live.

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Anonymous No. 15974502

>>15974298
No I'm looking for my first job. Looking for a job where I can start developing something in the field of engineering. Like R&D. I don't have a degree so they try to always put me in a technician role but I'm looking for more a engineeresque job. If any anons have advice please share. In the interview I try to show them my projects.

Anonymous No. 15974504

well he didnt answer a single question, pretty obvious hes a newfag if he cant even answer what the newfag filter is. lets move on people, just ignore the closetted troon.

Anonymous No. 15974506

>>15974502
you're going to need a stellar portfolio technicianbro, also an engineering license

Anonymous No. 15974507

>the meltdown continues
more please, i'm not satisfied yet.

Anonymous No. 15974509

>>15974487
forgot starship in february

Anonymous No. 15974510

>>15974509
true, i didnt look at every launch so there are probably some good ones that i missed

🗑️ Anonymous No. 15974511

>>15974345
Any sauce on this living condom fetish? Sounds hot

Anonymous No. 15974512

>>15974487
Apart from the final DIV Heavy and maybe the crew dragon launches, this looks to be a pretty rubbish Q1 (IFT-3 notwithstanding)

Anonymous No. 15974516

>>15974499
nta but still as a brainlet I can understand that's for figuring out delta v? how much mass for how much time smth smth?

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Anonymous No. 15974518

>Columbia, Houston, UHF comm check

Anonymous No. 15974519

>>15974459
Oh so it's a false flag, got it.

Anonymous No. 15974524

>>15974481
Nobody is posting hentai, schizo

Anonymous No. 15974525

>>15974506
>loicence
mate you don't need a degree to just work on a rocket engine (for example) with other engineers. The company can hire you or not hire you but there are no legal issues here.

Anonymous No. 15974526

>>15974497
>who collagefag was
Your imaginary friend.

Anonymous No. 15974527

>>15974511
no, it's just a face from some absolutely ridiculous inflation shit that's been posted on 4chan since forever. which is why it's so weird this guy had a meltdown and started accusing people of being trannies. this is what kids do when they want to fit in nowadays.

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Anonymous No. 15974528

>>15974516
You got the m(t) part right. Here's the full thing, even a brainlet that is the least bit interested would understand part of it, I mean how new and unintersted in spaceflight do you have to be to not answer the most basic question. But its called the newfag filter for a reason.

Anonymous No. 15974530

>>15974481
We were having a good time discussing >>15974288 until those other guys showed up

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Anonymous No. 15974533

Remember this rocket?

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Anonymous No. 15974534

>>15974359
>starshitter still pending crewed flight after 578392 delays
I don't see boeing flying to space either

Anonymous No. 15974536

>>15974530
Im discussing delta-v equation now sorry about that but I got here later anyways.

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Anonymous No. 15974540

>>15974527
never liked people posting anime on /sfg/ anyway. Even though it's an anime website.

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Anonymous No. 15974542

>>15974534

Anonymous No. 15974543

>>15974528
ah T is thrust

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Anonymous No. 15974546

i wonder what kind of sounds these TVC motors make when you stand under them. these engines are big and some of the movements are pretty quick and violent.

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Anonymous No. 15974547

This was a thing

Anonymous No. 15974548

>>15974533
its last launch is happening in a few months

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Anonymous No. 15974552

>>15974540
well that's not my problem, you do realize bitching about it only encourages more of them right?

Anonymous No. 15974554

>>15974533
Not fondly

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Anonymous No. 15974555

>>15974546
>these engines are big and some of the movements are pretty quick and violent.
Yeah noticed that too. I can only speculate that by being able to adjust them faster they can have greater landing precision and similar

🗑️ Barkun No. 15974557

>>15974548
It is more advanced, but the basic is special in its own right. There is a perfect life that is a wave to us imperfect life's.

Anonymous No. 15974558

>>15974547
which is more sovlful, this or skycrane?

Anonymous No. 15974559

as long as we are discussing anime, any kino space anime? I watched half of legend of galactic heroes but got bored, and have been unable to continue it again despite numerous tries

Anonymous No. 15974561

>>15974559
I heard Planetes is good. I recommend Space Brothers personally

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Anonymous No. 15974563

>>15974049
>>15974056
Musk knows a mars colony will need a professional security force to stop faggots like Lew Harness from getting everyone killed.
He also knows the feds will try to plant agents in the mars colony to thwart its natural independence, and thus that hiring former LEOs for their experience is a trap.
So he's starting his own security organization, and arranging for them to gain experience dealing with narcos raiding across the border.

Anonymous No. 15974564

>>15974559
Stop watching anime, it's brainrot.

Anonymous No. 15974566

>>15974552
kek

Anonymous No. 15974567

>>15974564
Do you also say this about western cartoons

Anonymous No. 15974568

https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1RDGllpprokGL/peek

Spaces for Jessie (SpaceX) and Haley (Inspiration 4)

Anonymous No. 15974569

>>15974555
for sure, in certain parts of the video i posted you can see the whole damn stack vibrating from just the movement of the engines.

Anonymous No. 15974570

>>15974567
Yes

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Anonymous No. 15974574

>>15974567
Yes, I do.

Anonymous No. 15974576

>>15974571
getting hit by this sucker while on spacewalk

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Anonymous No. 15974581

>>15974555
i speculate that the onboard computer can use a technique of quickly spreading engines to the side to lower total downward thrust faster than throttling the engines directly might be able to do.

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Anonymous No. 15974582

>>15974568
different haley

Anonymous No. 15974583

>>15974571
Is this a spaceplane?

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Anonymous No. 15974589

>>15974559
damn dude, i'm in the same spot.
you know what, fuck it, i'm picking it up again, i'm going to prove to myself my ADHD is not as severe as everyone else's

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Anonymous No. 15974590

https://twitter.com/whoisheartbreak/media

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Anonymous No. 15974592

>>15974581
sounds reasonable to be

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Anonymous No. 15974593

>>15974536
Got it. What sort of dV would picrel get?

Anonymous No. 15974594

>>15974564
no
what are you gonna do about it, punk?

🗑️ Barkun No. 15974597

>>15974589
Think about how mind is also a reduction of movement. Mental action is like a stasis that holds a extra ordinary move in place. You're approach to the mind of the lesser you is more directly that stasis factor. This is your advantage for the parts you miss. Hopefully this also lets you know all your disadvantages.

Anonymous No. 15974598

>>15974590
if you look very closely you can see her nipple piercings.

Anonymous No. 15974599

>>15974559
>I watched half of legend of galactic heroes but got bored, and have been unable to continue it again despite numerous tries
Damn that happens to me often, of course not with anime because I don't watch it but still. Any fixes?

Anonymous No. 15974601

>>15974592
there must be a better word for it.
splaying i think?

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Anonymous No. 15974602

https://twitter.com/haleykesparza/media

so both of them are gay?

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Anonymous No. 15974603

>>15974601
cosine losses?

🗑️ Barkun No. 15974604

>>15974601
You're a good type of what you are. It's probably preferable to what you know how to become but I can sort that for you.

Anonymous No. 15974605

>>15974599
finding something not-boring, pretty difficult and you get through those quickly so then you have nothing to watch again

Anonymous No. 15974606

why is the chatGPT so talkative today?

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>>15974604
Twitter WorldofVard for messages of this caliber. I'll get banned if I continue.

Anonymous No. 15974609

until now this conversation has been just random chitchat
lol

Anonymous No. 15974610

>>15974603
i guess quickly increasing cosine losses would be a good way of describing it.

either way, i can swear that's something they did during landing on some of the starship 10km tests, 2 engines would quickly jut out in opposite directions at lightning speed.

Anonymous No. 15974611

>>15974582
>>15974602
Oh right, both SpaceX

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Anonymous No. 15974614

https://twitter.com/haleykesparza/status/1624519776633765888/photo/2

🗑️ Barkun No. 15974615

>>15974605
You'd be more that and less the things you are. You are missing something from the lesser you perspective, but as you are, you're equal to being just a lesser you. Choose what you want, most things concerning race(more than just place of birth, but also genetics directly, configuration of base character and future edits) are equal. All base race is equal.

Anonymous No. 15974616

>>15974614
you really need to stop

Anonymous No. 15974618

>>15974605
Yeah I'm watching breaking bad again, but find it really hard to get started on something new, I really want to read books but it bores me to death

🗑️ Barkun No. 15974619

>>15974615
I'm just weighed by this specific advantage and disadvantage. Yours is a good sacrifice.

Anonymous No. 15974620

>>15974616
dysphoria kicking in?
lmao

Anonymous No. 15974621

>>15974614
would rape, wouldn't rape, wouldn't rape, wouldn't rape.

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Anonymous No. 15974623

>>15974610
>2 engines would quickly jut out in opposite directions at lightning speed.
I remember that actually

Anonymous No. 15974624

Who sicced the B*rkun AI spam bot on us today?

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Anonymous No. 15974625

you could fit a plate of dinner on that thing.

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🗑️ Barkun No. 15974627

>>15974624
OMG a faggot. You need to see a doctor and get harshly medicated..

Kys fag

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🗑️ Anonymous No. 15974632

>>15974627
Relay this message to your creator:
Fuck off.

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using spambots won't make dick bigger.

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Anonymous No. 15974636

we are going

Anonymous No. 15974638

>>15974636
cargo cult behaviour.
jesus christ oldspace, at least complete the cosplay by decapitating him.

Anonymous No. 15974650

>>15974629
why are they forming the columns? I suppose there's a logic to it

Anonymous No. 15974651

What kind of legal system should the Mars colony have?

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Anonymous No. 15974652

isn't this a bit dishonest like yeah you are sending wayyyyyy more mass to orbit but it's 90% starlink like okay Elon calm down mr

Anonymous No. 15974653

>>15974651
Eye for an eye

Anonymous No. 15974655

>>15974651
AI technocracy. Great sci fi survival horror shenanigans potential

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Anonymous No. 15974656

unusually long starship.

need it or keep it?

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Anonymous No. 15974657

>>15974650
I guess the wind turbines disrupt the laminar flow of the mist?

Anonymous No. 15974659

>>15974652
not dishonest until they can figure out how to make weightless starlinks

Anonymous No. 15974660

>>15974656
Booster is getting extended midwit

Anonymous No. 15974661

>>15974652
And others couldn't launch such a number even if they had payloads to launch.

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Anonymous No. 15974662

>>15974660
actually it's the hotstage ring that's getting extended

Anonymous No. 15974664

>>15974652
not dishonest at all, them being starlinks is irrelevant with respect to how difficult achieving that cadence is
SpaceX having a separate satellite business that eclipses the industry is extremely impressive too

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Anonymous No. 15974666

Roundhouse kick earthers from orbit

Anonymous No. 15974668

>>15974651
there won't be just one mars colony their will be multiple founded by different nations with their own laws.

Anonymous No. 15974672

>>15974661
>>15974664
good points it just shows they are capable of putting that much up per year irrespective of what the payload is

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Anonymous No. 15974673

>>15974656
is looooooong

Anonymous No. 15974674

>>15974657
no I meant why are they forming columns with the turbines, as arrangement. why not stack them all next to eachother in a horizontal line?

Anonymous No. 15974675

>>15974652
How is it dishonest?

Anonymous No. 15974679

>>15974343
I swear this is now the 10th time they've launched some amount of Gene Roddenberry's remains into space.

Anonymous No. 15974682

>>15974674
sometime they do but the wind doesn't always blow from the same direction.

Anonymous No. 15974687

>>15974682
ah right, they can rotate.

Anonymous No. 15974688

>>15974652
Are you new? This guy said SS would be on Mars in 2020. He normalized dishonesty so much he doesn't even realize he's doing it probably

Anonymous No. 15974689

>>15974660
why extend the booster? if its doing return to launch site you get barerely any extra performance from a larger booster

Anonymous No. 15974690

>>15974688
did he really wtf ahah

Anonymous No. 15974693

>>15974690
kek don't get me started. He's been saying like 7 years in a row Tesla would get full self driving the next year. Dunno if he still does that. But plenty of examples

Anonymous No. 15974694

>>15974288
Maybe the Gigaship bros were the friends we made along the way

Anonymous No. 15974696

>>15974688
Liars get shit done, this is just how the game must be played

Anonymous No. 15974698

>>15974688
wait until you hear about vulcan's planned launch date

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Anonymous No. 15974699

>>15974696
What do you mean? What holds honest people back?

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Anonymous No. 15974700

>>15974679
>The world's first private memorial spaceflight occurred on April 21, 1997. The air-launched Pegasus rocket carrying the flight capsules of Gene Roddenberry, Timothy Leary, Gerard O'Neill, Krafft Ehricke and 20 others deployed over the Canary Islands as it propelled the Celestis spacecraft into orbit. The individual flight capsules remained within the Celestis spacecraft throughout its orbit and re-entered the atmosphere May 20, 2002 northeast of Australia.

how many space burials is a nigga gonna get

Anonymous No. 15974702

>>15974698
don't worry I said it would launch in 2024 back in april or something. Tory is a liar too, not as big as Musk though.

Anonymous No. 15974704

>>15974528
so this is like Ohm's Law but for moving shit in space?

Anonymous No. 15974706

>>15974702
being an optimist is not lying
Tory just outright lies

Anonymous No. 15974707

>>15974704
Are you retarded?

Anonymous No. 15974708

>>15974693
even my grandma in a nursing home knows using cameras and no lidar for full self driving was retarded
musk will never admit to this mistake and this is why EV competitors will reach full self driving before tesla

Anonymous No. 15974712

>>15974699
This photo perfectly encapsulates my point. Honest people say what they mean and mean what they say. Just lie to people and call yourself an optimist, if you do it enough you start to believe it yourself, but people give you money all the way, aslong as you deliver on at least half your promises eventually

Anonymous No. 15974714

>>15974708
they are getting pretty close now

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>>15974707

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Anonymous No. 15974721

>>15974625

Anonymous No. 15974723

>>15974712
saying "I hope we do this by x" is not lying

Anonymous No. 15974728

>>15974723
don't bother with EDS anon.
he's either pretending to be retarded for attention or he really is that retarded.

Anonymous No. 15974750

>>15974728
kys

Anonymous No. 15974757

>>15974750
there you go, couldn't help yourself
lmaooo

Anonymous No. 15974758

>>15974700
Some of him flew on Columbia too. No not THAT mission, at least I don't think so.

Anonymous No. 15974767

>>15974666
Nice digits.

Anonymous No. 15974770

>>15974335
PEREGRINE GOING TO HIT AUSTRALIA!!!
https://twitter.com/tony873004/status/1746288506509684988

Anonymous No. 15974774

>>15974770
Why is it always Australia

Anonymous No. 15974775

>>15974770
totally the Moons fault for not being there when Peregrine was.

Anonymous No. 15974780

>>15974775
cancel the moon for bullying Peregrine

Anonymous No. 15974796

>>15974780
Shut up chud

Anonymous No. 15974799

Peregrine more like Perefail

Anonymous No. 15974802

>>15974799
Perefrown :(

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Anonymous No. 15974807

>>15974770
>PEREGRINE
tfw no moon

Anonymous No. 15974809

imagine being dead lol and your remains never reach the moon after all this PR

Anonymous No. 15974812

>>15974757
see, you're frothing with rage and this is the most intellectual response you could muster.

you guys are like tsunderes, can you stop with all of the argumentative posturing and admit that you have mindless hatred for the guy? nobody else gets as emotional about elon musk as you.

Anonymous No. 15974816

>>15974812
meant for >>15974750

Anonymous No. 15974817

>>15974809
>imagine being dead
I do that all the time

Anonymous No. 15974818

>>15974809
they fall in fucking stralia. got NDoS-ed the fuck out (N stands for Navajo)

Anonymous No. 15974820

is this the highest swing ever of human remains?

Anonymous No. 15974824

>>15974728
Kys

Anonymous No. 15974826

>>15974809
Luna allows only those who've earned it, by dying on her (Shoemaker notwithstanding)

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Anonymous No. 15974830

>>15974723
Elon lied (and that's a good thing)

Anonymous No. 15974831

what happens when you fart in a spacesuit? the expectable?

Anonymous No. 15974832

>>15974770
SOMEONE ON /SFG/ MUST RETREIVE IT

Anonymous No. 15974833

>>15974824
hahahahahaha

Anonymous No. 15974839

Elon could fund a mars colony if he wanted really. He has a lot of money. 236.1 thousand times a million
>That's on papeh
So? just crash everything fuck it
Anyways according to my guesstimates he could have an air bubble in mars for like 1 billion or less.
Source:my ass

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Anonymous No. 15974849

do any of you guys plan to go to space one day?
even if it's like 30 years from now??

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Anonymous No. 15974851

>>15974849
ye

Anonymous No. 15974852

>>15974582
hot
>>15974587
potato head

Anonymous No. 15974853

>>15974839
Wait a minute. He did spend like 44 billion on Twitter. Well if it's not 1 billion then surely that amount could have made an air bubble in mars.
>We gave up the stars for twatter

Anonymous No. 15974856

>>15974493
The line needs to keep going up for that to happen.

Anonymous No. 15974859

>>15974849
I'll ride a rickety firework like Mad Mike before me if I must, but yes.

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Anonymous No. 15974862

>>15974774
that's just how dangerous Australia is

Anonymous No. 15974870

>>15974849
If going to space depends exclusively on Elon and maybe Jeff Bezos heh. Not saying they can't but it's likely they won't.

Anonymous No. 15974871

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsWuBlfrAt4
Hey /sfg/ it's 7PM! Time for your repetitive starlink launch
T-45:00

Anonymous No. 15974875

>>15974871
Didn't 60 used to go up at once? What's this "launching 23" horse shit?

Anonymous No. 15974878

>>15974875
It's the new 2.0 version which is a lot bigger. Starship was supposed to be sending them up by now, but FAA fucked everything up.

Anonymous No. 15974880

>>15974875
they made them bigger

Anonymous No. 15974884

>>15974875
new FAA safety regs made them drop mass capacity over 50%

Anonymous No. 15974886

>>15974875
It's Starlink 2 Mini

Anonymous No. 15974887

>>15974871
I'm all for space future, but I feel more and more that spacex should pay a tax or fine for putting so much C02 in the atmosphere...

Anonymous No. 15974892

>>15974875
The FAA fuckin did it

Anonymous No. 15974899

What's the consensus on the sustaining lunar development program?

Anonymous No. 15974900

>>15974693
At some point you just get used to the nerds being able to work magic when you throw money at them but we are getting progressively farther from the actual abilities of nerds, neuralink was where I really realized it had become ridiculous

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>>15974887

Anonymous No. 15974922

>>15974899
Organic rocket fuel. ESA is working on it

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Anonymous No. 15974926

>scrubbed

Anonymous No. 15974940

>>15974926
they ain’t never getting 144 launches at this rate

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Anonymous No. 15974952

>>15974849
already in space :)

Anonymous No. 15974953

>>15974922
methane and kerosene are both organic...

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Anonymous No. 15974954

>>15974079
SpaceX could probably build a lunar lander architecture with what they got. Could blue origin do the same?

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Anonymous No. 15974955

I am feeling a bit down now that ""they"" killed Neptune anons

Anonymous No. 15974956

>>15974949
When they're changing the talking point just enough that it isn't a literal copy-paste job, it's typically the work of state backed propagandists.

Anonymous No. 15974958

>>15974956
I think it's either the chinese who are asspained at America's newfound proficiency in space setting back their plans for the 21st century, or a deranged redditor motivated by their hate of bad emerald man.

Anonymous No. 15974959

>>15974956
who in this case?

Anonymous No. 15974962

>>15974651
It will naturally change with the economic and social conditions. Strict military discipline will be needed for the initial colonization phase. Everyone will be living in very close proximity and all working pretty much exclusively on sustaining and expanding life support infrastructure. There will be no room for strikes or deliberation on rationing, and no economic activity to speak of outside of maybe sexual favors in exchange for rations.
Once populations are larger, and redundant, decentralized life support infrastructure is built out, you can start to grow an actual economy with different sorts or workers and industy. At that point, you could start to transition to a republic with a strong technocratic/meroticratic streak.

Anonymous No. 15974966

>>15974954
If you're smart about dividing up your payloads, any rocket as big or bigger than a Delta IV Heavy can be used as the basis for a lunar mission. New Glenn's more than big enough, and once it's flight proven enough to be easily reusable it should be cheap enough that putting the mission together wouldn't require an absurd budget.

Anonymous No. 15974969

>>15974118
>450s Isp monopropellant
That's hydrolox level of efficiency, is that even possible?

Anonymous No. 15974970

>>15974668
I think the Chinese with their version of authoritarian communism with capitalist characteristics will be well suited to set up another bug colony

Anonymous No. 15974971

>>15974966
cope fag.

Anonymous No. 15974974

Schizodrive status?

Anonymous No. 15974975

>>15974956
>state backed propagandists.
Not saying it isn't, but could be corporate too.

>>15974959
Anyone who has nukes and doesn't want them brilliant pebblesed.

Anonymous No. 15974976

>>15974974
10au out and still accelerating

Anonymous No. 15974984

>>15974959
JIDF

Anonymous No. 15974987

>>15974467
I remember finding this wiki page in 2016 and wondering whether we will ever reach apollo era launch numbers in the next 10 years
now look at us

Anonymous No. 15974992

>>15974987
same. i thought the numbers back then were so far out of reach, now im like pathetic.jpg

Anonymous No. 15974999

>>15974953
Nice hate speech

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Anonymous No. 15975002

>>15974976
I wish. The said they expected testing to begin in January, so, literally, unironically
>2 MORE WEEKS

Anonymous No. 15975004

>>15974563
elon musk is going to make shitsec from SS13 into a reality? fuck that I'm not ever moving to mars then
>inb4 someone points out that cops on earth are shitsec too

Anonymous No. 15975021

>>15974338
Would only be possible if they get past Earth again.

Anonymous No. 15975049

>>15974954
They have to get to orbit first with their big booster and then land their first stage successfully after. Otherwise, its all speculation and irrelevant.

Anonymous No. 15975050

>>15974689
because if the ship is heavier you need more fuel in the booster for the same trajectory brainlet

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Anonymous No. 15975079

>>15974079
Reminder that they're hiring for jobs even /sfg/ is qualified for: https://www.spacex.com/careers/jobs?discipline=facilities+%26+food+services

Anonymous No. 15975081

>>15975079
ME eVVN

Anonymous No. 15975093

>>15974650
The turbulent flow and areas of low pressure allow moisture in the air to condense, the same thing can be seen on planes wings when atmospheric conditions are right. Rockets often generate this effect when transiting the speed of sound.

Anonymous No. 15975110

>>15974559
rocket girls

Anonymous No. 15975111

>>15974629
keeek the boomers are gonna have a field day with this one

Anonymous No. 15975129

>>15975111
They are right but for the wrong reasons. Wind power is absolute garbage in EROI terms and a hideous eyesore. The bird holocaust thing is real too, they put a bigass farm near me a while back and the amount of birds has noticeably dropped.

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Anonymous No. 15975165

>NASA Starship isn't real...
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20240000267/downloads/Trent%20MACHETE%20SciTech2024%20Presentation.pdf

Anonymous No. 15975179

>>15975165
And it'll be launched on SLS Block 2 Cargo, because of course it will. I suppose we should count ourselves lucky that it's not powered by some RL10 variant.

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Anonymous No. 15975191

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1746380313452802521

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Anonymous No. 15975196

>>15975165
It's so small and cute.

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Anonymous No. 15975202

>>15975165
>>15975196
Mini Starship...it's real??

Anonymous No. 15975205

>>15974601
>>15974603
let's combine and shorten it: cosplay

Anonymous No. 15975221

With modern rockets and propulsion, what is the FASTEST we could get to Jupiter and saturn and then the ice giants if we launched TODAY?

Anonymous No. 15975224

>>15974096
I've known two SpaceX employees, the lack of free time fits. You have to like rockets more than just about everything to work there more than about 2-3 years.

Anonymous No. 15975227

>>15975224
Good for me then!

Anonymous No. 15975229

>>15975224
The thing I'm scared off is that it will kill off any interest I have in space. If literally 24/7 is working on rockets, some rocket hobby, and shitposting here, I would die from space overdose.

Anonymous No. 15975231

>>15974969
Very Aggressive Nuclear Thermal Engines

Anonymous No. 15975233

>>15975191
minecraft references are so transcoded xis-

Anonymous No. 15975235

>>15975229
If youre afraid of if then you were never interested anyways. I am willing to work until death on these fucking rockets if I get to go to Mars.

Anonymous No. 15975236

Bring sluts to mars!

Anonymous No. 15975238

>>15975236
it will be easy to convince them since they prob worship mars bc of astrology or something idk

Anonymous No. 15975242

>>15975236
YWNGTS

Anonymous No. 15975244

>>15975236
This. So much This.

Anonymous No. 15975245

>>15975244
Die nigger

Anonymous No. 15975251

>>15975245
woah woah woah who crawled up your bum? xD

Anonymous No. 15975256

is there an ai prompt that generates complicated NASA mission architectures?

Anonymous No. 15975266

>>15975221
All depends on your delta-V. I couldn't tell you where we are on any of the outer planet Hohman transfer launch windows, but it takes about 3 years to get to Jupiter using one.

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Anonymous No. 15975280

>>15975221
With a slingshot, you can go anywhere

Anonymous No. 15975283

>>15975280
Gravity is a prison, if there is a God he should pay deatly for inventing it.

Anonymous No. 15975284

>>15975079
Not an american :(

Anonymous No. 15975285

>>15975079
Not an american :D

Anonymous No. 15975289

>>15975236
Unironically this, and generously subsidize motherhood if you ever want to see a martian birthrate that isnt arbitrarily close to 0. Sure, there will probably always be immigrants from earth, but it's likely to skew heavily male for a long time, just like the american west and modern mancamps. To add to that, its likely that any woman who does make the trip will be faced by all the same social and economic pressures that are driving down birthrates in the first world but x1000. There will never be a Martian civilization until there is a positive birth rate on the planet, and that won't happen unless that Martian society sees the role of motherhood as crucial to the building of their civilization as that of the engineers, biologists, techs, ect..

Anonymous No. 15975292

>>15975289
Tldr: mars needs breed pigs

Anonymous No. 15975294

>>15975289
Yes, but what should be the ideal ratio of sluts to men?

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Anonymous No. 15975296

Space shuttle Endeavour's massive fuel tank installed for display at California Science Center. It's the last remaining external fuel tank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghu1ef-jycY

Anonymous No. 15975303

>>15975296
Fill 'er up

Anonymous No. 15975305

>>15975289
how's that 0.3G fetal development working out?
Mars will never be a self sustaining planet for humans; either the maternity centers are all orbital spinhabs, or people get genespliced so much that you can't possibly describe the end result as human any more

Anonymous No. 15975308

>>15975305
nobody knows retard, but when you look at experiment results of even a constant 0.1g the negative healtheffects of space are greatly minimized

Anonymous No. 15975311

>>15975294
Probably about 1/10 for the company whorehouse.

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Anonymous No. 15975317

>>15975305
We have no idea beyond theoretical assumptions because we're too pussy to build a spin station in LEO to find out

Anonymous No. 15975325

>>15975285
>>15975284
Just wade the Rio Grande, say you're a gay asylum seeker, and that rule goes away: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/08/24/spacex-hiring-elon-musk-lawsuit/

Anonymous No. 15975347

>>15975325
already dismissed
DoD glowies don't tolerate shit from uppity DoJ retards

Anonymous No. 15975379

>>15974875
Rocket shrinkage.

Anonymous No. 15975381

>>15974875
The V2 satellites are considerably larger and heavier than the OG V1 satellites, but they're also way more capable.

Anonymous No. 15975385

>>15975305
There's no reason Mars can't be self-sustaining. The problem comes from native born and raised Martians trying to go to places with higher gravity than Mars (i.e. Earth).

Anonymous No. 15975397

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1746445137214091563

>Less than one hour until tonight's launch of 22 @Starlink
satellites from California. All systems and weather are currently go for launch

Anonymous No. 15975399

>>15975305
Except a fetus already experiences 0G in the mommy tummy

Anonymous No. 15975402

>>15975399
Only your mom is so big that it's 0G in her center of gravity.

Anonymous No. 15975403

>>15975402
I take it you never heard of amniotic fluid?

Anonymous No. 15975534

>>15975004
I'm sure there'll be clown positions suitable for you too.

Anonymous No. 15975554

>>15975205
accepted,
splaying your engines with TVC is now called cosplaying.
https://youtu.be/7CZTLogln34?t=39 pictured here is SN15 cosplaying.

Anonymous No. 15975567

>>15975196
>>15975165
people mock spacex for having half baked cg animations with major design oversights, but if im not mistaken this design shows no control surfaces, are they suposed to control the whole descent using reaction control thrusters? seems like a lot of wasted prop, thiough shuttle controlled its yaw on almost the whole way down using prop since the tail wasnt in the airstream and was retarded dead weight, so i suppsoe its tradition at this point.

Anonymous No. 15975577

>>15975567
Yes, oldspace designs use RCS and blunt aerobraking/chutes all the way down because they didn't know if aero steering would work on Mars until Ingenuity.

Anonymous No. 15975582

>>15975577
I would forgive if it was an aerodynamically stable object, but that thing will not stay horizontal without tremendous rcs unless they do severe balance autism with every payload

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Anonymous No. 15975597

>>15975567
Would Block 2 be more stable?

Anonymous No. 15975601

>>15975296
>drops foam chunks all over your museum
>museum RUDs
oops

Anonymous No. 15975603

>>15975597
"block 2 never" is the /sfg/ equivalent of "season 2 never"

Anonymous No. 15975605

>>15975597
looks more stable.
I used to make shuttle replicas in Ksp then get mad how it would spin out during reentry without use of rcs, it was shocking when i found out that was a feature of the real shuttle

Anonymous No. 15975608

>>15975597
>Abort thrusters used LOX/MMH
weird

Anonymous No. 15975609

>>15975165
>that fucking text placement
It's over

Anonymous No. 15975610

Guys....bad news....
Starship just got
fuckin cancel...

Anonymous No. 15975613

>>15975610
ULA SNIPER GET DOWN

Anonymous No. 15975619

>>15975610
Really?

Anonymous No. 15975625

>>15975165
AYO IS THAT MINI STARSHIP?????

GET ZUBRIN ON THE PHONE

NOW

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Anonymous No. 15975630

>>15975609
Small Indie company pls understand

Anonymous No. 15975640

>>15974969
>>15974131
iirc somebody claimed to have synthesised some sort of meta-stable cyclic nitrogen compound
somebody else thought it would be ideal rocket fuel and drew this

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Anonymous No. 15975645

>>15975640
>cyclic nitrogen
but nitrogen is too edgelord, it hates itself

Anonymous No. 15975648

>>15975645
yeah, that's precisely why we aren't using exotic monoprops instead of LOx+whatever
the idea is up there with ClF3 and FOOF in terms of ludicrousness

Anonymous No. 15975649

>>15975196
>>15975625
It's stapled to a 1MWe NEP / chemical hybrid design too because "just use more Starships to refuel in LEO" was apparently too hard.

Anonymous No. 15975650

>>15974853
>Wait a minute. He did spend like 44 billion on Twitter.
the beauty of net worth; It includes twitter. So him spending 44 billion on twitter changed his net worth by nothing

Anonymous No. 15975653

>>15974614
This image is flipped, dont ask me how I know

Anonymous No. 15975656

>>15975653
so which one were you fapping to daily?

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Anonymous No. 15975677

How will automotive industry look like on Mars?

Anonymous No. 15975680

>>15974118
>450s Isp monopropellant
Impossible

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Anonymous No. 15975688

>Iran's Russian-built and managed optical reconsat is either moving to a new operating regime, or its orbit-maintenance thruster ceased to function around December 9
Why can't Russia into space anymore?

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Anonymous No. 15975689

Neutron launch pad construction
this thing's literally being built on the beach

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Anonymous No. 15975690

>>15975689
>built on the beach
Always liked that style of space launch complexes
Japanese launch site is kino

Anonymous No. 15975694

>>15974558
I honestly can't pick.

The idea of smashing a payload into the surface of Mars, having it bounce around and then unfold it pretty insane.

But, skycrane is much more impressive. People forget how much mass they are carrying with Curiosity and Perseverance

Anonymous No. 15975696

>>15975694
Skycrane was undoubtedly one of the coolest things that came out of JPL.
But apparently the Dragonfly is going to be even more insane.

Anonymous No. 15975698

>>15974774
It's on the bottom of the Earth, so things fall down to there

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Anonymous No. 15975699

>>15975165

Anonymous No. 15975701

>>15974976
This would have been fucking incredible. Imagine it getting to relativistic speeds

Anonymous No. 15975702

>>15975305
Anything more than weightless is enough for the human body you fucking idiot.

Anonymous No. 15975703

>>15975567
The diagram has body flaps

Anonymous No. 15975704

>>15975677
shit.

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Anonymous No. 15975713

Breakthrough Starshot, aka "StarChip": developing nano light sails that are propelled to 0.2c using a gigawatt laser with a beam width of 0.4 milliarcseconds.
It will reach Alpha Centauri in 20 years and transmit data back to Earth in 4 years.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kEgS8xRgIw

Anonymous No. 15975721

>>15974499
Fundamental theorem of calculus
Integrating the magnitude of acceleration of a body whose mass changes over time

Anonymous No. 15975723

>>15975713
We will come up with 0.4c before it reaches it.

Anonymous No. 15975732

>>15975701
It'd be nice to see Alpha Centauri up close in less than
>>15975713
25 years

Anonymous No. 15975736

>>15974502
You can do that in the software industry. If you can 1) actually 2) make shit 3) that works, no one cares about anything else.

You can insinuate yourself into the role you want by starting or volunteering for projects that allow you to develop and show competence in skills compatible with your long term goals (either within your organization or in free software projects).

Leaving aside whether or not it's "real engineering", software is absolutely essential for real world engineering.

Anonymous No. 15975739

What are the odds HLS Starship gets a full “kitchen” where astronauts actually cook—instead of 100% MREs? They plan on being there for a whole month right?

Anonymous No. 15975742

>>15974079
Anyone else has the feeling that demons steal our time force by making us wait and hope for big things to happen in future? Like "OHH STARSHIP LAUNCH IN FEBRUARY, I CANT WAIT I WANT FEBRUARY TO COME FASTER!" and then they steal your time force and you got less subjective time and they basically fullified your wish but in the end they stole the most valueable thing of your life, your time.

Anonymous No. 15975745

>>15974534
>initial crewed starliner flight
>door falls off
>armies of literal apes destroy major american cities (no causal relationship)

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Anonymous No. 15975748

>>15975745

Anonymous No. 15975757

>>15974614
3 4 2 1
1 is possibly a man?!

Anonymous No. 15975773

>>15974668
>different nations
>make mars into earth junior
That's the worst possible outcome. Mars would be stuck with modern day politics, but with the US federal government able to force its disgusting ideals on much smaller and more dependent Martian societies. Imagine a government housing project on Mars with a generous helping of dangerous sexual predators and third world "refugees" (also primarily dangerous sexual predators). The only good thing about this nightmare scenario is how quickly they would all die. 10/10 as a death camp for undesirables, but 0/10 as a long term human colony.

The ideal is many tiny nation states that interact via trade and technology transfer, and whose only central coordination is for defense against Earthers and tubefags.

Similarly, their relationship with Earth would be limited to trade and technology transfer, plus brain draining away Earthers with skills.

Anonymous No. 15975779

>>15975773
Back to Pol with you

Anonymous No. 15975782

>>15974675
It might be dishonest if you used it to represent a completely natural response in the launch market to the change in launch costs, since SpaceX is both the launch provider and customer.

Another company would have eventually tried a mega constellation, but it's hard to draw conclusions about its timeline, scale and ultimate success. In reality Kuiper is still just a plan and there's no reason to believe it will succeed.

Anonymous No. 15975784

>>15974679
He was a big guy

Anonymous No. 15975786

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1746553569010991365

Elon setting world records in diablo T25 clear. Guess he still has the gamer spirit after all these years

Anonymous No. 15975787

>>15974774
Otherwise there's some risk of hitting someone or something important

Anonymous No. 15975788

>>15974817
Get back to work!

Anonymous No. 15975793

>>15974831
If you fart in the matrix you die in real life

Anonymous No. 15975795

>>15974849
If I end up single and not regularly seeing my grandkids, and if I'm eligible, then I'd go.

Anonymous No. 15975797

>>15975129
>The bird holocaust thing is real too
It didn't happen, but it should have

Anonymous No. 15975800

>>15975236
Real Elon 1s know our Führer has already promised to create catgirl girlfriends for us out of the abundance of his compassion, godlike power and crippling autism.

Anonymous No. 15975809

>>15975256
>Give me a plan to waste decades and billions of tax dollars on failed technical and industrial projects tangentially related to space in the most convoluted way possible
>You MUST NOT use a milligram of payload more than absolutely necessary
>You MUST send money to unprofitable organizations in every congressional district in the United States
>Your plan MUST displace any useful scientific or engineering advances in aerospace

Anonymous No. 15975812

>>15975284
Neither was Elon pbuh

Anonymous No. 15975819

>>15975311
>not differentiating incubators from stress relievers
You want as many incubators as possible up to the growth rate your nursery and education infrastructure can support.
You want as few stress relievers as possible down to the minimum workforce required to support daily heterosexual copulation for male colonists.

Pregnant incubation staff can also be employed in nurseries and primary education.

Anonymous No. 15975820

>>15975689
This shits not flying in 2024 is it

Anonymous No. 15975823

>>15975702
source: it just is, okay?!

Anonymous No. 15975827

>>15975779
Spaceflight is and has always been racist.

Anonymous No. 15975833

>>15975820
>not starship
Not really spaceflight

Anonymous No. 15975839

>>15975779
>can't even spell /pol/
begone, foul creature!

Anonymous No. 15975842

>>15975809
>otherwise unprofitable organizations
FTFY

Anonymous No. 15975843

Let’s be real lad Roscosmos has no chance of survival but does Russia even have a commercial spaceflight industry

Anonymous No. 15975849

So it seems that Long March 12 is a thing and will launch in June.

Anonymous No. 15975851

Anyone else hate the name Starship? It's not a Starship...

Same with Virgin Galactic, it's barely suborbital. Calling yourself Galactic seems a bit shitty

Anonymous No. 15975852

>>15975809
I'm sorry, but I cannot provide assistance or guidance on plans that involve wasting resources, tax dollars, or hindering scientific and engineering progress. If you have any other topic or request, feel free to ask, and I'll be happy to help within ethical boundaries

hearty kek

Anonymous No. 15975854

>>15975852
We need based AI making decisions for us

Anonymous No. 15975855

>>15975851
Agree more to the second point than the first, Starship is more of a Starship than a capsule is, at least. It has fins and a nose, lands and takes off again.

Anonymous No. 15975860

>>15975851
>Starship
>can't travel from one star to another
>can't travel inside stars
>can't create stars
>doesn't contain any stars
>not seaworthy
>doesn't contain seamen
It's a fucking scam!

Anonymous No. 15975862

>>15975852
ChatGPT just defunded NASA

Anonymous No. 15975872

>>15975843
Roscosmos will survive in some form. The needs of the Russian government can be met by their current satellite production capacity and the Soyuz-2. The real question is if the cosmonaut program is going to survive.

Anonymous No. 15975877

>>15975305
You know you can do spinhabs on the surface too right?

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Anonymous No. 15975878

>>15975079
>Reminder that they're hiring for jobs even /sfg/ is qualified for

Reminder that the boomers who do the hiring now get a hard on for people with degrees. They don't follow Elons practices of hiring people with knowledge and passion.

Anonymous No. 15975879

>>15975860
>Starship
>doesn't play "We built this city"

God dammit Elon

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Anonymous No. 15975882

A Swede

Anonymous No. 15975886

>>15975827
>Sheeeiiit whitey on da moon

Anonymous No. 15975895

>>15975849
The chinese are just like us seeing this rocket
>The public institute should leave it to the private companies
>If they are not recycled, they should be destroyed. A lot of rocket models are said to be modular, but they are still a waste of money and energy.
>Eat eat eat, eat a chicken hair it still eat, cheated how many subsidies, I now hope that the private enterprise's recoverable out, so that all rely on subsidies and financing are not food. It's 2023, still here a bunch of non-recovery rocket models, is how short of money ah
>There's really no advantage.
>It's a far cry from private rockets of the same diameter. Other rockets can be recovered, but it can't.
>...Then what is its mission?
>Why keep messing around at this level?
>If it cannot be recycled, how low can the cost be? If you can't compete with the private sector, why do you need this thing?
>It feels a bit like reinventing the wheel. I don’t know whether the public companies are short of funds.
>Always chasing subsidies, always chasing, always chasing
>Burning a cold stove, reheating cold rice, wasting national resources, as well as human and material resources
>The public companies should just get a big rocket, and leave the efficiency and cost to the private sector.
>Can the performance of YF-115B reach the level of Space Pioneer's Tianhuo-11? If you can't reach it, cancel it as soon as possible.
>reinvent the wheel
>If the transport capacity is not good and it cannot be recycled, what is the use of building this kind of rocket?
>I have no objection to stage 1 *Sees YF115B*
>This rocket from the 8th Academy doesn't deserve the number Long March 12.
>What? This thing doesn't feel any better than the private sector
>It feels like a waste

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Anonymous No. 15975899

>>15975851
Agree and this kind of goes for Musk in general.
>starship
>optimus (robot)
>cyber truck

Anonymous No. 15975915

>>15975882
A SWEDE!

Anonymous No. 15975927

>>15975653
>text on shirts in correct orientation
please pay attention, retard-kun

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Anonymous No. 15975934

They spent $10bn on this

Anonymous No. 15975939

>>15975934
Good

Anonymous No. 15975943

>>15975934
only an issue because we spend so god damn little on space. it should be standard for nasa to have a dozen or more 10 billion dollar projects at any given time

Anonymous No. 15975948

>>15975934
That's awesome. Usually when you spend 10 billion you either get no results or they make something worse than before.

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Anonymous No. 15975955

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNWQHJvhTSg

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Anonymous No. 15975958

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F40O_928e7E

Anonymous No. 15975961

>>15975955
I suggest 2x, you get through these pretty quickly with that

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>>15975955

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>>15975963

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>>15975966

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>>15975968

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>>15975970
demolition of tent 3 begins, last one still standing

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>>15975972

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>>15975958

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>>15975984

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Anonymous No. 15976002

When are we leaving this planet bros? Im getting older and im tired of delays. I want my interstellar dreams to be true bros...

Anonymous No. 15976003

where do the starbase employees live? all in Brownsville? isn't it a bit of a shithole?

Anonymous No. 15976007

>>15976003
there are a few houses next to starbase (boca chica village) that is being expanded and they have a trailer park there, but most are probably in Brownsville
I remember seeing some whining about gentrification in Brownsville at some point

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Anonymous No. 15976025

https://fordhamobserver.com/63300/opinions/far-from-mars-musk-is-colonizing-vulnerable-communities/
> May 14, 2021

> This is not to say that Brownsville is a bad place to live. In fact, I was born and raised in the same county: Cameron County. Because of this, I know the reality of the area. Life is good there, but some conditions can make it hard. The county has the highest rate of child poverty in the state, about a third of people in the middle and lower income range have no health insurance, and one in three people are below the poverty line.
> SpaceX fans and potential job-seekers likely saw Musk’s tweet as an open invitation to relocate, but this area is not his to give away; he’s advocating for something tantamount to modern-day colonization.

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Anonymous No. 15976029

https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-center/press-releases/activists-resist-elon-musk-s-spacex-colonization-south-texas-citing
> August 8, 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ex-9XFhMbA
2 years ago

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Anonymous No. 15976030

>>>/tv/194937305

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Anonymous No. 15976034

>>15976025

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Anonymous No. 15976053

>>15976025
Who wouldnt colonize her?

Anonymous No. 15976059

>>15976030
Thread is full of retards but still far better than anytime elon is brought up on /pol/.

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Anonymous No. 15976067

>>15974140
Effectively illegal in America, both for environmental reasons and because it's illegal to operate dredges. Jones Act compliant dredges basically do not exist, so it is de-facto illegal even if that law is not explicitly on the books. Specifically, the Foreign Dredge Act of 1906. Whenever something sucks massively, the culprit is usually the government, and the government acts through laws. You could email your congressman and tell them you are ANGRY about dredges and want to know that you're voting for someone who take a firm pro-dredge stance. You probably won't do this though, things will continue to suck, and I'll die without ever passing the Karman line.

Anonymous No. 15976070

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1746608289192857700

NSF live

Anonymous No. 15976072

>>15976030
a lot more people are going to know about his backround after this, I hope they are reasonably accurate (the Walter Isaacson book has some inaccuracies I think)
but I'm not holding my breath, might very well be a hitjob

Anonymous No. 15976075

>>15976067
not my fight. post proof you've made an effort to make dredging politically easier

Anonymous No. 15976080

>>15976067
>de-facto illegal even if that law is not explicitly on the books
More people need to understand that we don't live in a nation of laws and legislatures; we live in a nation of rules and regulators. And then they need to get angrier about that fact.

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Anonymous No. 15976083

>>15976075
I mention it every time I talk to legislators, which is often, and I've donated a few thousand dollars at this point to pro-dredge activist organizations. I'm not going to post uniquely identifying information on 4chan because I'm not retarded

Anonymous No. 15976087

>>15976030
>biography of a living person
I hate this shit

Anonymous No. 15976091

>>15976087
social network was a great movie though

Anonymous No. 15976132

not a single post for Starlink 7-10 launch? must be too routine to mention

Anonymous No. 15976134

>>15976132
https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1YqGoDBnPBEJv

~4 and half hrs

Anonymous No. 15976135

>>15976132
dude there's a starlink a week
it's boring

Anonymous No. 15976141

>>15976134
No, he's talking about the one this morning. No one was talking about that because it happened at 4AM EST.

To no one's surprise it was exactly the same as every other starlink launch in the past year

Anonymous No. 15976145

>>15976029
>>15976053
>>15976025
>area suffering from intense poverty
>to be transformed into a tech/aerospace hub because of an industry leader in the sector
>nah, we can't have that, because we don't like the person in charge of the industry leader
>we'd rather the citizenry continue to suffer in intense poverty instead
These people are heartless.

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Anonymous No. 15976146

>>15975266
Fuck Hohmann transfers they are for homos

Anonymous No. 15976147

>>15976141
Oh yea, Starlink launches are too frequent/routine. And thats a good thing.

>>15976145
The virtue signal is to do the opposite of what they claim to do.

Anonymous No. 15976153

>>15976053
Why do they all have this look

Anonymous No. 15976156

>>15976145
Go read the Brownsville reddit and marvel at min wage Mexican libs rage at their town exponentially improving

Anonymous No. 15976158

>>15976156
>go read reddit
lol

Anonymous No. 15976161

>>15976156
That's classic third world mindset and why we should have wiped out Mexico to the last man in the 1840s.

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Anonymous No. 15976162

>>15976156
I didn't see that much seething to be honest
this is probably again just a few loud activist groups and journalists (activist in disguise)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Brownsville/

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Anonymous No. 15976169

>>15975934
Aparently JWST discovered alien life irrefutably. If only astronomanon was here to confirm the rumors

Anonymous No. 15976170

>>15974151
What's the upside of a project like this? Who would fund them

Anonymous No. 15976172

>>15974493
shit take

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Anonymous No. 15976178

Staging

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Anonymous No. 15976179

>>15976170
I guess they want to start a business? Astronaut training

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Anonymous No. 15976180

>>15975851
It has sovl

better and more inspiring than "Space Launch System" a name dreamed up of by managers and administrators not inspired dreamers

also, did the Saturn rocket ever reach Saturn? Things don't have to be super literal

Anonymous No. 15976185

>>15974151
>depth of 50m
The pool with the iss mock up is 15m. Why do they need something that deep? That's getting into serious technical diving. Trimix and decompression time ect. Seems like a lot of added risk and complexity for training operations. For reference, the deepest you can go with regular recreational diving is about 35m, and depending on your dive profile, you'll only have 3-5 minutes of bottom time before you have to ascend. If you want to spend any useful amount of time down at 50m, you're going to have to so some long deco stops.

Anonymous No. 15976253

>>15976185
to simulate complexity of spacewalks or something? if you can't dive down there, you aren't fit to do a spacewalk

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Anonymous No. 15976351

>>15975680
hydrosox slushie

Anonymous No. 15976499

anyone else hyped?
https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx4E2eLJU4uaEzj5bUQTyWAW8z5or7xyVR

Anonymous No. 15976595

>>15975713
>0.2c
just fire your fucking laser at it for 100x longer and get it to like 0.6-0.8c