🧵 Science and Math of getting a gf
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 00:50:43 UTC No. 16057300
I've chosen pic rel because it is probably the most appealing picture of a woman that I have: dark hair, covered skin, and good proportions.
I never really bothered with girls in high school, I was always busy with my other interests. But then I developed the habit of chronic masturbation and the idea of sex with a woman become very appealing likely due to biology. Recently I decided to try an attempt to display interest in a woman and it went like this (this is all based on past experience and media I've consumed).
>be me
>see anonette from class, she is not overly attractive but has proportions which are biologically desirable for human copulation
>"Hi anonette, I've decided to express interest in you, would you like that?"
>*laughs at me* *her friends laugh at me too* "that's kind of weird anon, sorry but I have a boyfriend"
>say ok and then leave after the failure to sale
I had a sales job over the summer so I thought a lot about the theory of selling. I used to be too anxious to talk to people before, but after I calculated that I have never died from embarrassment before then dying from it is probably impossible. Also I learned from other women telling me that you should not be so direct and ask women for sex, nor should you touch women like they do in the movies especially not in the so called "private areas." I was surprised I never learned this stuff in school, it was never in any book.
So I'm trying to develop a mathematical and scientific theory on how to optimize getting a gf.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 01:03:24 UTC No. 16057317
you sure do seem to like talking about yourself on social media
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 01:04:34 UTC No. 16057321
The girl I expressed interest in had a boyfriend, so you need to approach women that don't. This is impossible to know in most cases, so that's why you need to optimize interest and minimize embarrassment.
I learned from asking a very attractive girl on campus to be my girlfriend that there is a hierarchy of attractiveness and that attractive women don't settle for nerdy guys like me.
So I've developed an axiomatic system of explaining female interest. I call it the 3 axioms of female interst:
1: positive resources
2: positive genetics
3: positive character traits
these are all related to some biological precedent that women have, desiring the best mates.
resources refers to wealth mostly, but the majority of americans live paycheck to paycheck so it doesn't seem sensible to use this as a good metric for the average /sci/ fren.
genetics refers to uncontrollable aspects that are inherently desirable for genetic fitness. Unfortunately intelligence is often not considered here it's more so height, skeletal structure, full vision, etc.
Character, this is the most vague one because some women are particular and date men who are vastly different, but most often it correlates to traits that indicate a good mating partner. Often it is physical character traits that matter before non physical ones.
I will use a basic metric to quickly explain your likely ranking. Because humans evolved as persistent hunters this means the most attractive men should be men who are good at running. Notice how stereotypically women prefer jocks over nerd. Women do not like obesity as it signifies illness and poor character.
Here's the scale: if you can run over 5 miles you are 1, if you can run 1 mile you are 2 if you can walk 5 miles you are 3 if you cannot walk without pain or failure due to fatigue then you are 4.
Rank 1 men should match with rank 1 women and likewise for the rest.
You should know your ranking before your attempt to approach women. As weak nerds are are probably rank 3.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 01:16:36 UTC No. 16057340
We are on the lower end of the normal distribution. However, if you stay within your rank you will break the normals into parts which should even out to a flat mean.
The best way to increase you rank then is to become better at running as that signifies human genetic fitness. There will always be limiting genetic factors which exclude you from the highest ranks, but it is the same way with intelligence.
Next is the homogenous relationship theory of mine. For a woman to truly know your deeper character she must spend time with you. Therefore, you should desire non romantic relationships with many women. The problem is that I like math and science and I don't know what women like.
The interest technique is one I am developing, you signify in an appropriate manner that you have interest, if she refuses your desire then you move on.
Here is what I think you should say "Hello, I am expressing interest in you, would to like to become friends?"
So I've decided my goal for this year is to make at least 3 female friends, I know it seems like a serious challenge but I have a high tolerance for embarrassment after embarrassing myself in my life much worse and not having died from humiliation. Also I hear eye contact and smiling matters.
My next goal is to run and increase my running skill to see if running really does have a correlation with mating success.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 03:15:37 UTC No. 16057465
>>16057300
You very likely have autism. This may be related to your problem of getting a gf.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 03:26:49 UTC No. 16057488
>>16057465
I thought autism was just a term that meant "silly 4channer"
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 03:27:11 UTC No. 16057490
And here I thought I was autistic...
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 03:34:40 UTC No. 16057499
>>16057490
I dunno guys, looks like this word is just a way to make fun of nerdy people and call them socially retarded.
>a neurodevelopmental condition of variable severity with lifelong effects that can be recognized from early childhood, chiefly characterized by difficulties with social interaction and communication and by restricted or repetitive patterns of thought and behavior.
But I am in fact not socially retarded because I am use my intelligence constructing a mathematical and scientific way to get a gf.
That being said do you guys know what to say to people?
No one in my family really talks to me and so I don't really know what to say to humans unless it pertains to math and science and related to solving a problem.
I've never actually had friends my entire life, I suppose I don't really understand the concept. What do these friends give you and what do you give them?
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 04:42:54 UTC No. 16057589
>>16057499
There's no mathematical and scientific way to get a gf, unfortunately. Women (and humans) in general do not operate logically, or at least, there are too many variables for us to reliably create a mathematical model of human behaviour. How old are you, anon? I usually just wing it and copy the behaviours of others who seem to be well-adjusted, but my results vary as it becomes difficult to do consistently and continuously. It's like having an emulation layer in software. I have to boot up my normie virtual machine while they are just in their native environment. My advice is to observe and observed and observe and emulate.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 04:48:45 UTC No. 16057597
>>16057589
>There's no mathematical and scientific way to get a gf, unfortunately
I don't understand.
>Women (and humans) in general do not operate logically, or at least, there are too many variables for us to reliably create a mathematical model of human behaviour
I don't understand
The things you're saying to me don't make sense and are seemingly contradictory.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 05:06:46 UTC No. 16057619
>>16057597
What don't you understand? Where do I seemingly contradict myself?
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 05:33:34 UTC No. 16057631
>>16057619
This post here >>16057589
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 11:46:58 UTC No. 16058044
>>16057300
>I was surprised I never learned this stuff in school,
Anon...
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 14:20:09 UTC No. 16058147
>>16057631
I meant what specifically, I can't read your mind.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 14:41:24 UTC No. 16058159
Here's some basic science on how to get a gf: don't say "I am expressing an interest in you" jfc
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 15:02:39 UTC No. 16058175
>>16057300
>>/fit/
>>/lit/
Look up haloeffect but don't become too blackpilled, because that's obviously insanity. When people say it's confidence, remember psychology says it's conflated with competence, and disappointment hits when the perception does not meet reality. Competence is an indicator of social rank/status, and value and humans are literally obsessed with dominating their surroundings. In fact, all vertebrates are.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 15:35:30 UTC No. 16058219
This has been settled a long time ago. Female mating preferences are ranked as follows:
1. Looks (height, face)
2. Social status
3. Money
In this order. See, personality is not on the list. Lackin in (1) can be compensated by (2). Lacking in (1) and (2) requires extreme compensation in (3) i.e. being a billionaire, which again is "genetics" in the broadest sense - if you weren't born rich you will never be rich.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 15:37:10 UTC No. 16058221
>>16058219
You can't explain how I make my girlfriend horny af then
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 15:54:05 UTC No. 16058250
>don't be autistic
Doesn't matter. If OP was an attractive tall Chad the women would instantly want his cock irregardless of whether he's autistic. An attractive tall Chad can be the creepiest sperg and women will only see it as flirty or (in a sexual way) cute.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 15:58:07 UTC No. 16058259
>>16058250
cope
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 16:54:25 UTC No. 16058317
>>16058250
It's literally the opposite. Autism is the single common factor across incels. Ugly poor midgets get laid all the time but autists who are unaware of the true nature of their problem never do. Not even if they're tall Chads. They won't know what to do if a woman tried to show an interest, and this is going to be interpreted as lack of interest on their part. The obliviousness of men is legendary.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 16:57:59 UTC No. 16058323
>>16057300
This is probably one of the most autistic threads I've seen in quite a while, congrats OP.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 17:01:33 UTC No. 16058327
>>16057300
(Pussy +time)/income^2
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 17:52:07 UTC No. 16058419
>>16058317
Here comes the PUA scammers thinking approaching girls is the biggest spiritual epiphany since christ...
>you gotta play blackjack to win it
wow amazing analysis now please continue vilifying the weak
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 18:19:10 UTC No. 16058465
>>16058219
2 is a function of personality
>verification not required
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 18:32:47 UTC No. 16058502
>>16058465
>how did this football player become so popular?
>must have been his personality!
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 18:43:00 UTC No. 16058528
>>16057300
>I never really bothered with girls in high school, I was always busy with my other interests
you're obviously autistic and I stopped reading there because you are retarded.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 19:05:15 UTC No. 16058573
>>16058502
Clearly you've never met any of the autistic athlete type. I'll give you a hint, they don't have much social status
Social status depends on your position in the hierarchy of men which depends on your male friendships and interactions which depends on your personality and social skills, which are also independently attractive.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 19:20:23 UTC No. 16058605
>>16058219
Women don't even comprehend "personality", if it exists. That's why looks perfectly predict female assessment of it.
And let's be realistic, we've seen there exists no amount of money that can insulate you from a woman leaving.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 19:23:01 UTC No. 16058610
>>16058573
Is this hierarchy in the room with us right now? Men self segregate on looks, IQ, race, profession, age, there's no sense in which this is independent.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 21:51:30 UTC No. 16058846
>>16058419
You couldn't have misjudged me worse lmao
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 22:01:45 UTC No. 16058859
>>16058219
Looks contribute to social status. Money contributes to social status. In fact, desirability is pretty much synonymous with social status. Anything that increases status increases desirability, and anything that increases desirability increases status. The thing is, though, social status is relative to a particular group and its values. What is valued in some circles is denigrated in others. There are few universals in the most general terms; details are (sub)culturally determined and subject to individual preference. Believe it or not, there are women who value intelligence.
Desirability is only part of the equation, as well. The other part is the ability to leverage that desirability. You have to be able to show people that you possess desirable qualities, which of course also entails first identifying what those are. In this regard, having a baseline for normal human interaction is an absolute requirement sine qua non.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 22:07:56 UTC No. 16058862
>>16057300
If you could science and math your way into getting a girlfriend, this place would look a lot different
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 00:11:56 UTC No. 16059012
>>16058044
Yes what?
>>16058147
Yeah specifically that post, I know you can't read my mind, my mind isn't a book, anon. You're so silly.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 00:16:52 UTC No. 16059017
>>16058159
Please elaborate. Why is that wrong? In the past I was told it's bad to be too honest. I should never say to a woman "Would you like to have sex with me?" according to the woman whom I asked.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 00:21:57 UTC No. 16059022
>>16058175
>haloeffect
Yes I'm aware, that's why I was using normal distributions.
>Competence
Interesting, what is this competence exactly? What is being measured in competence by a woman?
>>16058219
Correct see my post here >>16057321
But these are just axiomatic, we need an actual protocol/algorithm.
>>16058323
please explain.
>>16058327
and what is this measuring?
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 00:25:26 UTC No. 16059024
>>16058528
That's really mean, anon. Why are you being mean for no reason? Therefore you must be an immoral person, like the people who kick dogs.
>>16058573
Interesting, you are proposing some kind of graph theoretic approach to getting a gf?
I am all ears.
So someone being associated with more males increases your association with females that want to have sex with you?
Wow this is just like an ecosystem graph.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 00:28:01 UTC No. 16059027
>>16058862
Many things change
We're human, having a gf should be part of our function.
Otherwise darwin was wrong
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 00:28:37 UTC No. 16059029
>>16059017
Expressing an interest is not something you do by declaring it. It's something that is demonstrated by your attitude towards someone. Saying you "express an interest" in someone you just met fails to actually express an interest.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 00:29:39 UTC No. 16059030
>>16059027
That doesn't follow.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 01:03:28 UTC No. 16059062
>>16059024
He's a cancer PUA zealot from /adv/, never gonna give you any objective scientific advice other than roll the dice and try to approach women. Then hope one will look past all your lower social value or buy you feigning confidence or delulu narcissist(won't be a good relationship). Approaching women gives them stress and pressure, which is not something you want, but you need to sell yourself somehow. So you gonna spend alot of time with 100s of rejection especially if you are ugly and don't understand social values/cues like not getting trolled easily and demanding respect(or having any). Women require a man is strong and can maturely handle her throwing shit at you, in which case, don't allow yourself to be humiliated or don't waste your time with them. Some people cannot be convinced otherwise.
Or you can join our /fit/ brethen, approach women with more success, and still have time to study quantum physics while slaying, instead of PUA circle masturbating. But yeah you do you.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 01:11:10 UTC No. 16059067
In a later thread I will publish results of a study conducted by me using 12 men age 20-40 who I personally know well enough to quantify all of the tested variables for each of them. The only variable {looks, height, confidence, personality, extroversion, body, etc.} that correlated at all with a man's current sexual accomplishment (their gf/nogf status and attractiveness of current gf) is HOW MUCH SEX HE HAS ALREADY HAD!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's over for latebloomerbros! The foundation for sexual success is set in stone before age 20.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 01:16:10 UTC No. 16059076
>>16059029
>It's something that is demonstrated by your attitude towards someone.
I don't get what you're saying.
>Saying you "express an interest" in someone you just met fails to actually express an interest.
That doesn't make sense.
>>16059030
Well... that OR something much scarier... Which would be the converse hypothesis.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 01:23:53 UTC No. 16059085
>>16059012
Basically what this anon said >>16058859.
>There are few universals in the most general terms; details are (sub)culturally determined and subject to individual preference.
You can't just 'get' a gf because it largely depends on who you want to get in the first place. Even though you can make some generalisations, they can only get you so far.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 09:16:02 UTC No. 16059618
>>16059062
The funny thing is that even though you have this weird obsession with PUAs, you have more in common with them than the other anons you've been calling PUAs. You have a similar outlook on women and relationships and you're trying to sell a "magic bullet" solution. Does your dislike simply stem from competition?
I don't think you're really interested in understanding women so much as coming up with coping mechanisms for your lack of success due to factors you don't wish to address due to the cognitive dissonance it causes. Your image of women and relationships seems inherently adversarial, where you're trying to manipulate, coerce, goad, or deceive women into doing something they inherently have no desire to do. When, actually, women are people like you and me and they have interests and motivations and they enjoy sex and companionship.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 09:17:40 UTC No. 16059619
>>16059076
>Well... that OR something much scarier... Which would be the converse hypothesis.
How do you imagine that? It simply doesn't make any logical sense.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 09:54:01 UTC No. 16059650
>>16058219
I'm going to use myself as a case study here.
1. I've been told I'm handsome and fashionable. I am also, however, short (in my country), and I started going bald in my early 20s. I am fit, skinny with a small amount of muscle definition.
2. I have no title or claim to fame. I have no prestigous job title. In fact, up until recently I was a NEET living with my mother. Now I do odd jobs, rent a room, and get around by bike. I do hold two MAs (in a humanities-related subject) and am well-liked in my social circles, though.
3. No inherited money. I live a frugal lifestyle.
I have a girlfriend, though. She's objectively beautiful (has worked as a model) and has no shortage of male attention. I can offer her no money or prestige. And yet she chooses to be with me. Has made sacrifices for me. And she can't get enough of this dick. She begs me for my cum.
So, what can explain this? Am I just that handsome that the rest doesn't matter? Doubtful; it would've worked for me earlier (I've had only a few romantic successes before). Is she just weird? Possibly; although then again, she's also not the *only* woman who has expressed an interest in me. Or could romance simply be more complicated than you're making it out to be? I'm leaning towards this one.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:01:08 UTC No. 16059654
>>16059618
>women are people like you and me and they have interests and motivations and they enjoy sex and companionshi
That actually doesn't sound very much like me at all. Therefore, I can only conclude women are not human if I am human.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:04:06 UTC No. 16059656
>>16059619
Well I'd like to believe that the human genome isn't experiencing some kind of harmonic drop off effect, that would indicate that so called "autistic" people need to perish and certainly will perish due to their poor fitness brought on by some kind of harmonic effect in genetic variance leading to drop off of fitness.
It displeases me because I want to live, I don't think it's fair that I am somehow dysgenic due t cruel fate. So I refuse it and therefore Darwin is wrong through my protest.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:11:02 UTC No. 16059662
>>16059650
HA! women express interest too. And people were calling me a weird autist for doing the same.
I knew it was illogical nonsense. If you have interest in people you should be honest about it.
Interesting, so in my axiomatic view you lack 1 and 2, so then you much have 3.
That's interesting. How did she become your girlfriend because in my current model of getting a gf in order for women to know your character and see if it is appealing you must increase the amount of time you interact.
Which is a problem for me because I don't know what you're supposed to do with a woman besides supposedly sex or says biology textbooks... though frankly I'm not sure what to do with humans in general. They seem sort of a useless commodity especially if they do not see me as inherently value by some bizarre bio-social culture... i.e. my human family.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:19:57 UTC No. 16059677
>>16059654
>Therefore, I can only conclude women are not human if I am human.
"If"
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:27:46 UTC No. 16059686
>>16059662
>HA! women express interest too.
I should mention that none of them have ever told me "I am expressing an interest" or "I want to have sex". Well, my girlfriend has told me the latter, I suppose. While in the relationship.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:29:45 UTC No. 16059691
>>16059662
If you want to reduce humans to a commodity then just save up and go to a sex worker. Saves everyone time and effort and it's the most honest thing on both sides of the equation.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:33:07 UTC No. 16059696
>>16059677
If I am not human than what is my species?
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:35:02 UTC No. 16059699
>>16059691
Hmm? I don't get what you mean? I was just explaining that I don't understand them as a commodity.
Also I don't think a wife is supposed to be a prostitute.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:38:37 UTC No. 16059702
>>16059696
I don't know, what planet are you from?
>>16059699
You have a long, long way to go before you can start thinking about marriage. If you want to fuck, pay someone.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 10:57:33 UTC No. 16059714
>>16059656
>So I refuse it and therefore Darwin is wrong through my protest.
Only if your efforts are fruitful. My money's on Darwin.
bodhi at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 12:29:02 UTC No. 16059779
what is e actual fuck is happening itt? look little nerd this is how it works. If you want to get a gf you have to meet women. You meet women by going out and doing things where women are. You have to let them know you are interested in them. The best way to do this without looking like a simp or weirdo is buying them drink at a bar or w/e. If they sit by yo and talk to you then you know they got the message and are interested in you too. Ask for their number at the end of the night and you call them in a few days and take them to a movie or something.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 12:38:25 UTC No. 16059789
>>16059779
I know empathy is hard for you but can't you see that your advice is useless to OP? You literally might as well tell him to be confident.
bodhi at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 13:56:14 UTC No. 16059877
>>16059789
If he cant be "confident" then he cant get a gf. How do you think lying to him about this is "empathetic?" You know what is kind and empathetic? Being honest with people
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 13:59:23 UTC No. 16059883
>>16059779
Are you an incel or silent generation?
bodhi at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 14:01:50 UTC No. 16059885
>>16059883
are you a twink or a troon?
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 14:25:47 UTC No. 16059913
>>16059618
It sounds like I have caused cognitive dissonance in you anon. My position stems from years of research and high quality statistical data from institutions. It's funny how you PUAs only can attack people and especially those who prove your world view paradigm is incorrect instead of going into the gritty details of probability and distributions. A person like you doesn't try to understand people in general and you certainly know only little about women. A testament to your ignorance.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 15:10:42 UTC No. 16059957
>>16059877
Buddy, confidence isn't even remotely the issue. You're not even in the same ballpark of the issue. OP is actually overconfident that he's going to math his way into marriage, but he's not on the right track, and just like that, you're also not on the right track to helping him. It's like handing a caveman a computer. It might be a really user-friendly one but he doesn't even have a spot to plug it in m8
>You know what is kind and empathetic? Being honest with people
Not really, also, but that's a separate matter.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 15:14:49 UTC No. 16059965
>>16059913
>It's funny how you PUAs
Dude, drop the PUA shit. Your position doesn't stem from anything because you're clearly just projecting some sort of strawman to make yourself look better in comparison. Years of research? Whose? Probably not your own, is it? Statistical data? Means fuck all if you're a biased idiot who can't do statistics. Fuck data, you're clearly basing this entirely on your feelings because you're dragging in heaps of baggage. You're bitching that PUAs can only attack? You came in swinging and accusing people of random bullshit. And the only real advice you had was get /fit/. Oh wow, that's what PUAs say as well. You've yet to actually prove anything, though.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 15:43:01 UTC No. 16059994
>>16057300
Have you ever been tested for Autism?
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 16:59:48 UTC No. 16060054
>>16059650
>and am well-liked in my social circles, though.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:02:15 UTC No. 16060059
>>16059779
>>16059883
Don't take advice from bodhi. The only women he ever interacted with were southeast asian prostitutes. He never had a gf, let alone a wife.
bodhi at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:28:13 UTC No. 16060079
>>16060059
tell your mom that, I am your real dad
bodhi at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:29:15 UTC No. 16060080
>>16059957
I didnt say anything about confidence you fucking moron, you did. Do you not understand what quotation marks mean?
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:29:41 UTC No. 16060081
>>16060079
Way to tell us that your genes are shit tier.
bodhi at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:30:55 UTC No. 16060082
>>16060081
son why do you hurt your father so?
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:33:04 UTC No. 16060085
>>16060082
I'm Oedipus. Are you ready for the castration, father?
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 17:53:54 UTC No. 16060103
Black pill guys say that looks tramp everything. This is not true and objective reality proves it. My boss is an average height, slightly overweight, balding dude. Yet, he fucks hot chicks every week and has a stunning 20 year old gf. I will give more examples from the real world. Dustin Poirier is objectively very handsome dude, but countless chicks were not even acknowledging him as a human being prior to his fight with Conor Mcgregor. Similarly, around 10 years ago, they interviewed ring girls about hottest welterweights. Their common answers: GSP(champion) and Carlos Condit(top 5 fighter on a win streak ), completely ignoring Alan Jouban, who is objectively more handsome than both, but much less of a fighter. One last example. In 2004, one Dutch magazine conducted a poll on the most desirable football player in the league. The winner? Mateja fkn Kezman. In a league full of chads they picked him. Go look him up, it's not even funny, he is one ugly motherfucker, but at the time he was crushing Dutch league scoring a goal every match. You all can come up with similar examples. Social Status > Looks. Every single time. If you lack status, the next best thing is having social skills, which signals social status. Being confident, assertive, laid back, humorous and witty signals that to women that you have power and their reptilian brains can't really distinguish the difference. This is where pua books help. They specifically teach how to interact with women and what signals tickle their prehistoric core. When it comes to looks, you need to pass the filter, but the bar is very low. If you are 5/10, you are good to go. If not, get in shape, change your wardrobe and groom yourself.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 19:52:58 UTC No. 16060259
>>16060080
Are you new to 4chan? "Jus b confident" is a meme because it's vapid, useless advice that exposes the gap in experience between autistic incels and normie bros. You're the one who responded to it seriously and insisted, ackchually he really should be confident! Except now you're denying it so what was even the point? If you think confidence isn't the issue then why pretend to disagree? If you think it actually is the issue then why pretend otherwise now?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 00:08:14 UTC No. 16060590
>>16059699
I believe he meant that if you were to treat humans as a commodity and did not know what to do with women besides sex, you should visit a prostitute so that you could be completely honest and get sex without worrying about the intricacies and irrationality of human interaction. He did not mean to find a prostitute and try to marry her, but rather to avoid marriage entirely and go directly to the sec part without anything else.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 00:30:23 UTC No. 16060614
>>16059994
No I don't like physicians and even less so psychologists.
Why?
>>16060590
But isn't sex reproduction?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 01:05:58 UTC No. 16060651
>>16060614
Sex is reproduction, but the part of it which drives most people to seek it out is a combination of the biological urge to engage in the act itself and the large amount of pleasure that is felt during the act itself. He assumed that you were driven by these same things, and so he recommended you to the way which would make the most sense to you (ie in a direct and tangible exchange of resources for sex rather than the more common way of socially engaging with members of the desired sex in a way which may eventually result in the formation of a relationship).
The other anon recommended that you get tested for autism as your approach to human social interaction and your inability to understand human social dynamics which is in most people a capability present from birth are both highly indicative of the disorder.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 01:39:54 UTC No. 16060685
>>16060651
I wouldn't know I've never had sex.
I just know humans are supposed to do it and I feel a natural inclination to want to do sex with women
>your inability to understand human social dynamics
What do you mean I think my theories are pretty good.
From birth? That's ridiculous, that's like saying you know calculus from birth.
bodhi at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 02:53:11 UTC No. 16060790
>>16060259
holy autism, yikes
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 04:28:56 UTC No. 16060852
>>16060685
I wouldn't personally know either; it's just what I've gathered from observing those around me. Your approach to human social dynamics is based on a straightforwardness which is seen as unnatural by most, as evidenced by the reactions to your "expressing interest" line being too direct. Humans do not interact in a fully logical manner, rather they use social instincts which have been ingrained into humanity over the course of evolution to weed out those who may cause them some harm. This has resulted in human social dynamics being dominated by irrational behaviors and many intricacies which must be accounted for in order to not be seen as creepy, awkward, or strange. To a person with a healthy brain, all of these things are done without any conscious effort, and they cannot imagine it being any other way. To the autistic, however, these behaviors are not innately understood and they will seem strange and illogical, as they do to you and I. This is why he suggested that you may be autistic.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 11:21:44 UTC No. 16061213
>>16060790
Buddy, you said something stupid. There are no two ways about it. You didn't understand the conversation and contradicted yourself. You can't "yikes" your way out of that one.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 11:34:43 UTC No. 16061225
>>16060685
OP, you must have realised that social interaction is harder for you than most people, same way that mathematics come easier to you than most people. If maths skills and social skills were directly transferable to one another, it'd probably look a lot different. You're trying to use a skillset you possess to compensate for one you don't, but it's at best a band-aid solution. I think the first step is to realise that you need to apply completely different skills.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 17:01:52 UTC No. 16061526
foreword: I apologize for my complete derailment of this thread towards discussing autism instead of methodically getting a gf.
I am not a psychologist, biologist or doctor.
>>16060614
>No I don't like physicians and even less so psychologists.
I don't think that this is a justified dislike.
Psychologists (maybe less so psychiatrists) might help you in your research on human behaviour (they do it professionally after all).
You decide whether you want to take drugs or not.
I think you need to understand with which people you would really connect and be able to lead a proper life together. It is probably easiest to imagine what the person you are thinking of would be doing all day and how you two could interact. I'll try to show you how I go about this (I am less of an autist than you are, but I still show some signs, especially special interests).
Here is what I do all day: I sit in front of the computer and read stuff or watch informative videos related to my personal current interest (Is there anyone here who can do a differential diagnosis to ADD? As of yet I am uncertain.) Today is not as good of an example because I am more open minded. I am informing myself about political news/analysis/interviews. The last topical interest I had was related to the acquisition of members of a former secret service of my country as well as secret services in general and to the often corresponding genocides with the underlying motivation of understanding how member acquisition strategies of secret services can enhance resistance to politically pro genocidal stances.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 17:02:55 UTC No. 16061528
>>16061526
Now you tell me: Which gf would be interested in living together with someone obsessing about "something big" such as trains, weapons, rockets, power/influence or really anything of that sort (one flavor of autism, I don't know which one you have, it seems more like hormonal developmental interruption, instead of special interest fueled developmental interruption, but you tell me)?
I don't think I can find non-autistic girlfriends as long as I am obsessing about this.
So what have we learned? I will only ever be able to befriend autistic girls (preferably with similar special interests).
For you this may be different. It could be helpful to understand in which way your psychosocial development might have been interrupted. This could be something like prenatal exposure to hormones or endocrine disruptors. Based on what you told I would guess that you were exposed to some kind of developmental inhibitor from 4-6 (onset) years of age up to 9-15 (inhibition ended) years of age. This is all just my weird schizo understanding of how autism works, so I stand to be corrected. For me onset happened when I got access to a computer at the age of 10 and ended when the covid pandemic and my corresponding loneliness led to my need of actively seeking out other people (Probably It's not real autism, but rather a lack of social contacts).
There are many possible culprits. I would search in your family's cosmetics, food (including plastic packaging) and the drugs your mother took during pregnancy. If applicable also tap water or air contamination.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 17:04:50 UTC No. 16061531
>>16061528
If you found the culprit, you can first experiment around whether turning it off or keep on using it will help your psychosocial development.
If you are below 21-25 years of age you still have a chance to develop intuitive social skills. I'd guess you are 16-19, so you should still have some time. Consulting a professional will help you here too (For help in identifying the culprit and what to do about it I would ask a neurobiologist who professionally researches autism.)
But back to girlfriends. As I said, you should try to think about what they are doing in their free time. Maybe just upfront ask them about it. Also try to understand what they are thinking about most of the time. But you cannot think about this in abstract terms. Instead if you want to understand how a "normie" thinks, you should try to think about the same things as well. I am afraid that this will make you depressed (when I have talked to other people about changing your cognition on such a deep level they have developed depression (exploding head syndrome to be concrete)). So you should at the same time try to understand why you yourself don't normally think in this way and be cautious and self-reflecting.
Good luck!
(please give me some feedback on how weird or whatever I am. I kind of crave that)
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 17:29:18 UTC No. 16061558
>>16061526
>>16061528
>>16061531
TL;DR
1. If you want to get a girlfriend, you should first think about what girlfriends you click with. If you want to know more, see a psychologist (run away if they mention Freud).
2. Your autism may have been caused hormonally. Possible culprits are found in: Cosmetics, food, drugs your mother took during pregnancy), plastics from toys or food packaging, tap water contamination or contaminated air (if you live near a chemical plant). If you want to know more, see a neurobiological researcher.
(3. Does my attention problem sound like autism or ADD? Where's the difference?)
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 18:18:17 UTC No. 16061622
Long term relationships are defined by compatibility and goals.
Speed of finding a new is defined by your looks/status.
It's really that simple, along with putting yourself out there and not wasting time with larps in this thread that get off on not having you become competitive in their league.
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 18:27:36 UTC No. 16061629
>>16057300
ah shit, here we go again
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 18:44:06 UTC No. 16061639
>>16057300
simple maths.
talk to more people -> make more friends -> some of the friends will be female, and your friends have friends(female)
the chance of success is based on your looks/personality etc. Hypothetically lets say its 10%
so if you meet 10 girls then you will get 1 successful gf.