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Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 22:57:41 UTC No. 16058930
If there was a hypermassive singularity at the start of the universe then it would've just been a black hole and stayed stuck like that.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 22:58:43 UTC No. 16058932
>>16058930
no because inflation of the universe wouldn't allow it
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 23:00:51 UTC No. 16058936
>>16058932
>Space inside the singularity expands
>All the matter/energy instantly attract each other back into a dense lump
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 23:00:51 UTC No. 16058937
It's called the Great Vortex, and that's not a black hole. We're in the vortex now, the fact it spins is all the motion in the universe. The pressure is the external universe, and your trajectory through it is consc. Experience.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 23:01:57 UTC No. 16058940
>>16058936
translation: derp, I'm a retarded NPC. As is everyone else on this board.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 23:03:29 UTC No. 16058943
>doesn't know about a naked singularity
fucking undergrads
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 23:04:12 UTC No. 16058945
>>16058940
Oh ok I guess gravity just took a break during that time. I guess this is the arbitrary universe where laws of physics just change randomly.
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 23:35:06 UTC No. 16058975
>>16058936
space expanded from less than the size of an atom to 10 light years wide in less than a second. It was too fast and the matter was evenly distributed for gravity to do anything
>Modern theory asserts that the initial state of the universe, at the beginning of the Big Bang, was a singularity.[7] In this case, the universe did not collapse into a black hole, because currently-known calculations and density limits for gravitational collapse are usually based upon objects of relatively constant size, such as stars, and do not necessarily apply in the same way to rapidly expanding space such as the Big Bang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravi
Anonymous at Tue, 5 Mar 2024 23:51:13 UTC No. 16058990
>>16058930
>>16058932
>>16058936
>>16058940
>>16058945
>not a single calculation to support the points
astrophysics don't work on intuition or fucking vibes
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 00:06:53 UTC No. 16059007
>>16058975
We don't know the initial rate of expansion, that is just pure conjecture.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 01:31:15 UTC No. 16059094
>>16059007
Inflation had to happen within a certain time for one of the next phases to be able to start which was neutrino decoupling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expan
You can find the order that things occurred and their times in the table here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chron
And the amount is mentioned here, with 10^26 being equivalent to a nanometer to 10 light years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infla
Pages 42-44 of this book here
https://books.google.com.au/books?i
El Arcón at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 01:34:30 UTC No. 16059097
>>16058930
>If there was a hypermassive singularity at the start of the universe then it would've just been a black hole and stayed stuck like that.
That sounds right to me.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 06:25:53 UTC No. 16059421
>>16058930
Black holes still produce radiation, so what do you mean by stuck?
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 06:41:26 UTC No. 16059447
>>16059421
Stuck for a long while
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 06:47:56 UTC No. 16059455
>>16059447
So by "stayed" stuck like that you meant that it wouldn't actually stay like that, it would eventually change?
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 06:49:42 UTC No. 16059457
>>16059455
It would've been a black hole and then scattered photons, not whatever we see today.
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 13:56:09 UTC No. 16059876
>>16059457
>look into the universe
>photons
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 14:01:09 UTC No. 16059884
>>16058930
Yes. That's why we say we're fortunate that force of gravity is not stronger than it actually is.
However calling it a hypermassive singularity is not quite right given the state of space then
Anonymous at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 14:31:19 UTC No. 16059916
>>16058945
Gravity hadn't been invented yet
El Arcón at Wed, 6 Mar 2024 14:42:28 UTC No. 16059924
>>16059421
If the entire manifold was confined to the singularity, where would the radiation go, dumbass? Also, which experiment do you think demonstrated the veracity of the prediction that black holes emit radiation?
Anonymous at Thu, 7 Mar 2024 02:50:39 UTC No. 16060785
>>16059924
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te