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Anonymous No. 16064418

People always throw the word "genius" around about every smart person or clever person but who are some actual Geniuses

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Anonymous No. 16064428

Beethoven

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Anonymous No. 16064452

I'm still debating if Gary was a genius for making this or if he just got lucky

Anonymous No. 16064458

I also wonder how many geniuses live today but just get lost in the numbers/bureaucracy/small incremental knowledge discovery

Anonymous No. 16064483

>>16064458
>I also wonder how many geniuses live today but just get lost in the numbers/bureaucracy/small incremental knowledge discovery

This. I'm pretty sure most of us have the capacity for genius.

Anonymous No. 16064486

>>16064418
Claude Shannon was a proper genius, as was Von Neumann.

Kolmogorov was a proper genius, as was Chebyshev and Markov.

I'd say Harald Cramér was also properly a genius, and Kalman definitely could fit well in that category.

There are quite a few that have made just absolutely monumental contribution to their fields with properly revolutionary ideas.

Anonymous No. 16064501

>>16064418
>but who are some actual Geniuses
shouldn't we be rather asking 'what is the algorithm for doing genius things / becoming a genius?'

Anonymous No. 16064503

>>16064501
There is no "algorithm" for becoming a genius your comp-sci brain poisoned faggot.

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16064507

>>16064503
>There is no "algorithm" for becoming a genius
yeah, not for you. for those able to ask 'why not?' or 'how?' (and not shoot it down with 'I can't' like an impotent faggot) when facing a seemingly impossible endeavour there might be, since after all:

if it exists you can imitate it or artificially trigger it.
at least to some degree.

Anonymous No. 16064552

>>16064452
That has zero predictive power and cellular automata were not invented by him.

Anonymous No. 16064570

>>16064552
>That has zero predictive power and cellular automata were not invented by him.

If a team with actual funding gave it a go I think they use it to make predictions. To Gary's credit he was one of the only people I know of who predicted the massive galaxies seen by James Webb in the early universe. He says the prediction came out of his simulation. It's a fractal or something and he thinks we'll find older and older galaxies forever, but possible it was just a lucky guess. I don't know.

Anonymous No. 16064572

>>16064552
>cellular automata were not invented by him.

Well obvious Von Neumann was on another level.

Anonymous No. 16064761

>>16064418
einstein
higgs
feynmann
oppenheimer

Anonymous No. 16064792

i am impressed that von neuman also invented explosive lenses used to compress these uranium or plutonium spheres

Anonymous No. 16064797

>>16064761
you only know about celebrities shilled by hollywood

Anonymous No. 16064804

>>16064418
Dirac

Anonymous No. 16064808

Most scientists from the quantum era have been laiuded as smart. One cant help by being impressed because the concepts are not intuitive, quantum is not something one sees in daily life unlike falling apples.
I like Eugene Wigner for explaining how all quantum laws were just group theory

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Anonymous No. 16064899

>>16064797
>the layers of significance

Anonymous No. 16065114

>>16064458
the thing separating a genius from a madman is timing

Anonymous No. 16065139

>>16064458
They work at spacex and are designing an interplanetary spaceship

Anonymous No. 16065230

>>16064761
Physicists are weird creatures but not geniuses

Anonymous No. 16065236

>>16064503
It's just magic.

Anonymous No. 16065238

>>16064797
(((hollywood)))

Anonymous No. 16065241

>>16064899
GPT brain

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Anonymous No. 16065244

>>16064418
elon musk <3

Anonymous No. 16065257

>>16064418
Is this guy actually smart or is it the scientist's equivalent of chinese whispers where accounts of his brilliance varies from person to person and over time he is deified

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Anonymous No. 16066272

>>16064418
Leaving aside everything else, pic related MUST be a genius because:
a) He is the only philosopher I've read who is able to express his ideas clearly, without resorting to jargon and mysticism; and
b) As an undergrad he abandoned his study of statistics because he intuitively concluded that the field relied too heavily on the presumption of the applicability of normal distribution (see, https://towardsdatascience.com/your-data-isnt-normal-54fe98b1f322).

Anonymous No. 16066273

>>16065257
H was just that good. Probably one of the Top 10 minds humanity has ever produced.

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Anonymous No. 16066535

>>16066272
also you can't help but think he was a handsome lad

Anonymous No. 16066575

>>16066272
>>16066535
Rothbard was spot on his criticism of the State but he didn't provide any viable solution to the State problem. Robert Nozick's approach to Minarchism is more pragmatic and realistic.

Anonymous No. 16066651

>>16065257
Just from results alone his name will raise eyebrows. Then when you look at the countless testimonies of his everyday demeanor through his life there's no question, he shaped the world in the 20th century more than any other human being and he had fun doing it.

Anonymous No. 16066889

>>16066272
I dont know anything about this dude, other than he hated jews and was opposed to social programs. Basically a lolberg, theres a million like him.

Anonymous No. 16066891

>>16066889
a lolberg?

Anonymous No. 16067423

Luis Alberto Spinetta
Alexander Grothendieck

Anonymous No. 16067588

>>16066891
Yes, a lolberg.
Never understood what people see about him, at least Ayn Rand wrote novels, i almost finished Atlas Shrugged, it kind of got too sci-fi by the end (galts gulch) as if the billionaires could survive in some commune.

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Anonymous No. 16068069

>>16066889
The thought occurs that announcing you 'don't know anything' about someone, and then passing judgement upon them and the body of their work may not be the best way to have your assessments heeded.

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Anonymous No. 16068076

>>16066575
Nozick's attempts to justify the existence of the state are seriously problematic. I don't blame you for not realising that though, as his prose is turgid and his reasoning employs frequent small but CRUCIAL leaps of logic.

For cogent and substantive criticisms of Nozick which may interest you, I would recommend Ch. 10 of Michael Huemer's 'The Problem of Political Authority' and Rothbard's paper 'Nozick and the Immaculate Conception of the State'.

Happy reading, anon. :)

Anonymous No. 16068080

Genius here, ask me anything.

Anonymous No. 16068113

>>16064418
Genius is something you have, not something you are. Calling someone a genius is like calling a great artist a muse.

Anonymous No. 16068139

me, Anonymous

Anonymous No. 16068170

>>16064418
me desu

Anonymous No. 16068237

not me

Anonymous No. 16068248

>>16066272
b mirrors Taleb's reasoning, interesting.

Anonymous No. 16068336

>>16068069
He deserves none of my attention
"social program bad"
Ok, fair enough. I get it.

Anonymous No. 16068346

>>16064418
james kaiser

Anonymous No. 16068358

>>16068113
Genius is not something "you have," it is something one has. Type in proper English, you imbecile.

Anonymous No. 16068515

>>16068358
this is an american board on an american website. we don't give a fuck about proper english.

Anonymous No. 16068845

>>16068358
Is that something you just learned in esl class?

Anonymous No. 16070064

>>16064797
I'll give you one that no one has mentioned, and I guarantee very few of you even know who the fuck he is.
>Yakov Zel'dovich
Arguably one of the most important scientists of the time...that know one knows about. There is good reason for that because his work has a metric fuckton of classified defense applications, but I digress.

Anonymous No. 16070409

>>16064418
John Von Neumann was not a genius, just watch his interview on YouTube.

Anonymous No. 16070448

>>16070064
i only know him as the one that thought about hawking radiation before hawking

Anonymous No. 16070941

>>16070448
Optical phase conjugation is the reason why the military wants to stick lasers on everything. (((Allegedly))) his research was exfiltrated to the US, and the applied science portion was given to Robert Hellwarth at USC to come up with applications.
>Laser self-focusing
>Photon time reversal in a non-linear medium
Hellwarth took it way further. Not just SBS, but multiwave mixing schemes (2/3/4 wave).
I'm surprised you know about BH Superradiance, that's not what's he's known for. "Principals of Phase Conjugation" is his seminal work as far as the DoD is concerned. Take his methane cell and substitute a BEC or Fermionic condensate, and you'll be on the right track. Then add the work from Lene Hau at Harvard and Wolfgang Ketterle at MIT, and Bob's your uncle.

Anonymous No. 16070945

>>16070448
He was also arguably the principal behind the Soviet nuclear weapons program. Sakahrov was the "Oppenheimer" , but Zel'dovich was was responsible for most of the Soviet fission and thermonuclear research.

Anonymous No. 16070952

>>16070941
>Optical phase conjugation
that is one weird trick

Anonymous No. 16070959

>>16070952
You have no idea. Look up the patents for Robert Hellwarth and Lene Hau in particular. There is hardly any. Yet, this was groundbreaking science in 1999-2004.
>Why is that?
I could tell you, but no one would believe me.

Anonymous No. 16070962

>>16070959
I won't swear at you but can't promise for other anons. that being said, tell us.

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Anonymous No. 16070964

>>16070962
Buddy...
>What is a polariton driven gamma ray laser
What happens to the wave length, /sci/?
https://groups.seas.harvard.edu/haulab/slow_light_project/slow_light_project.htm

Anonymous No. 16070967

>>16070962
>16070964
I won't even talk about artificial Kerr Singularities

Anonymous No. 16070988

>>16070962
>>16070964
I will post more if someone can answer my question

Anonymous No. 16071023

Anyone?

Anonymous No. 16071045

No one...
>Alas...

Anonymous No. 16071049

>>16071045
dam bro that's pretty fucking smart. you're pretty interesting and shit. got that smart shadowy allure. wish I was half the man and intellect that you are. fucking hell, rare unit right here.

Anonymous No. 16071067

>>16071049
Don't be a faggot. What happens to the wavelength? Answer my question.

Anonymous No. 16071080

>>16071067
I literally don't know because I can't read from the article that you'd read anyway. even tho I learned nothing from you, you managed to steal this appreciation without actually saying or doing anything. I find this power of yours extremely interesting. I'll stick around maybe I'll learn a trick or two from you, god knows I need some of this good stuff in my life. truly inspiring anon
I will tell my friends about this deep realization I experienced in your presence. they will be in awe

Anonymous No. 16071092

>>16071080
Bro, i've literally highlighted what you need to read. Again, don't be a faggot. What happens to the wavelength, other that eliciticing a faggot comment from (you).

Anonymous No. 16071104

>>16071092
it gets shorter? at least it would seem to? suppose it pops back out with original wavelength?

Anonymous No. 16071150

>>16071104
You would think, or does it? She conveniently leaves that out. What if it was compressed into the gamma regime? What then?

Anonymous No. 16071152

>>16070964
does time pass faster inside the BEC? or?

Anonymous No. 16071153

>>16071080
And it's posted in the link.

Anonymous No. 16071158

>>16071152
I mean, LiJun Wang and Ulf Lenonhard thinks it does.
https://www.scribd.com/document/208319/NEC-Time-Travel-Experiment-in-2000
This is his follow up to his Nature article on "Gain Assisted Superluminal Propagation"

Anonymous No. 16071159

>>16071153
didn't yet look at link. but will

Anonymous No. 16071163

>>16071158
*Ulf Leonhardt

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Anonymous No. 16071166

>>16071159
You should...
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread901726/pg3
>Inb4 ATS
Refute the assertion

Anonymous No. 16071175

>>16071152
>>16071159
And I would add, I would love to know that I am retarded...but I don't think I am. I think it's exactly what he says it is. Keep in mind, Wang went from NEC America Princeton directly to the Max Planck of Quantum Optics, where Ketterle came from initially before his Nobel at MIT.

Anonymous No. 16071179

>>16071158
>LiJun Wang and Ulf Lenonhard thinks it does.
would it mean it travels for longer distance? like a sort of space expansion inside the BEC?

Anonymous No. 16071189

>>16071179
No, he specifically states in his Nature followup that is is not a "phase versus group velocity" anomaly, and that is should be investigated further. When "rephrasing" is mentioned, it appears he is that the group velocity may be time reversed. The plasmonic excitation in the experiment travels 300x faster than actual photons in the same vacuum traversal distance.

Anonymous No. 16071192

>>16071179
To add, a BEC functions as a non-linear medium same as one that support phase conjugation.

Anonymous No. 16071216

>>16071158
>>16071175
>>16071179
>>16071192
I would love to know an actual explanation of this. It sure seems like FTL is possible, given alterations of permiability and permittivity of the vacuum ground state. The vacuum is ground state temperature average is 25 Kelvin. These experiments are pico-Kelvin.

Anonymous No. 16071223

>>16071158
>https://www.scribd.com/document/208319/NEC-Time-Travel-Experiment-in-2000
says photons pop out faster than traveling in vacuum. has this been replicated?

Anonymous No. 16071246

>>16071223
That's the odd thing, it hasn't. Everyone shit on Wanf experimentally with "muh phase versus group velocity", but no one actually replicated the experiment. This is odd because at the same time the EXACT same experiment was going on at different universities using the not only the same electomagnetically induced transparency setup, but THE SAME ALKALI GAS. Ketterle won his Noble using the same setup shortly before Wang was published in Nature. Rice verified a BEC formation in Lithium, MIT/NEC Princeton in cesium, etc. etc. If anyone knows anything about this, the PATENTABLE applications are huge. Like billions of dollars in licensing. But almost zero parents. Why is that? Ketterle's Nobel work generated exactly one patent, and that was on the EIT trap and owned jointly by MIT and Harvard. Most importantly, all the above's research was funded by the Office of Naval Research directly. Why is that?

Anonymous No. 16071256

>>16071223
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s003400050293
https://arxiv.org/abs/0910.0634
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12471267/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%80%93Einstein_condensate
Lots of follow-ups, all funded by the EXACT same organization

Anonymous No. 16071314

>>16071256
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bose%E2%80%93Einstein_condensate
BEC is weird af. interesting read

Anonymous No. 16071325

True geniuses are those who completely changed their fields. The bigger the impact the bigger a genius they were. Creativity trumps processing speed, which is why the greatest geniuses are the likes of Einstein, Heisenberg, Planck, Gauss, Da Vinci, Euler, Mozart, Beethoven, Newton, Godel, Riemann, Grothendieck, Maxwell, Faraday…

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>>16064418

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Cult of Passion No. 16071370

>>16068113
>Genius is something you have, not something you are.
No, I am genius, what I have is a failing vessel called a body.

I am not body. I am genius.

https://youtu.be/X3jUhOTJfHE

Anonymous No. 16071759

>>16071370
you sure do seem to like talking about yourself on social media