๐๏ธ ๐งต Flatten the curve
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 10:12:51 UTC No. 16064778
If the red volume/area of the chart is smaller than the blue volume/area, then doesn't that suggest a short, intense pandemic may have been less deadly overall than a protracted, drawn-out, lengthened one?
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 10:17:31 UTC No. 16064783
>>16064778
Sure, just like a quick falling off the roof obviously is healthier and less painful than going down the stairs.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 10:28:25 UTC No. 16064788
What's that blue line?
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 11:24:23 UTC No. 16064825
>>16064778
if 500 people show up at once at a hospital with gunshot wounds, doctors would probably be overwhelmed and there will be more deaths than if instead 10 people show up every day for 100 days, even though there are more gunshot victims in the second case.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 12:53:52 UTC No. 16064883
>>16064788
That's the line between nurses doing tiktok dances and doctors popping patient lungs with ventilators.
>>16064825
What if most of those gunshot wounds were from doctors shooting the patients? Wouldn't it be better to stop the doctors from shooting them in the first place than spreading the shootings out over time?
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 13:13:34 UTC No. 16064895
>>16064883
Are you a doctor?
Then don't go an tell them who they can shoot.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 13:34:52 UTC No. 16064915
Why did nurses and other medical workers have so much extra time on their hands? In all the stock footage we saw presented as many different hospitals around the world, they were slammed.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 14:33:34 UTC No. 16064985
>>16064825
That's a poor analogy.
A pandemic burns itself out as people catch the illness and a critical number acquire immunity, enough that the disease no longer spreads freely. Flattening the curve involves slowing the spread of the disease and thus delaying the acquisition of immunity by the population. Because the disease is circulating for longer, there are more opportunities for reinfection and mutation than if the disease were permitted to burn itself out more rapidly.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 14:58:49 UTC No. 16065007
>>16064985
The crucial part you're omitting here is that letting a disease run freely throughout the population would kill a lot of people
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:02:05 UTC No. 16065016
>>16065007
In both scenarios, the disease is spreading through the population. In both scenarios, a lot of people are killed.
It's possible that a low-level spread for a longer amount of time leads to more overall deaths than a high-level spread for a shorter amount of time.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:05:05 UTC No. 16065020
>>16064788
How many Doctors we have available at any given time. The problem is it includes those dancing for tik tok.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:38:25 UTC No. 16065202
>>16064985
sure. I just mean it in terms of capacity. if you have more patients than you have staff/beds, you're going to compromise and some people will get worse treatment.
but if you allow the disease to spread in the population for longer, more people get infected. so it's going to depend on how significant the impact of treatment is on survival.
if hypothetically there was a 0% chance of death with treatment, then as long as your healthcare is under capacity, no one dies. people only die when facilities are overloaded.
and the opposite, if treatment doesn't change the outcome, then you want to shorten the total amount of time the infection can exist in the population, and being overloaded doesn't matter.
the reality is between these.
Cult of Passion at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 18:07:17 UTC No. 16065231
>>16064783
>less painful than going down the stairs.
How many flights and how high of a roof?
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 18:15:04 UTC No. 16065239
Had we done literally nothing at all but impose voluntary quarantine on the vulnerable, millions fewer people would have died, and the world would not have imploded socially, economically and politically. But saving lives was never the fucking point, quite the contrary.
Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 19:09:51 UTC No. 16065323
>>16064915
they flattened the curve too successfully and made the pandemic last years instead of months
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 02:26:01 UTC No. 16065896
>>16064915
They had so much free time that some of them were even able to film for a whole 60 seconds at a time on their breaks, and there were so few patients that they weren't even piling into bathrooms and break rooms
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 02:30:18 UTC No. 16065900
>>16064883
>>16064915
>>16065020
I'm not a conspiracy retard, but jfc how much can you buy into this Chinese psyop? Did you really let the CCP turn you against your own healthcare workers?
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 02:31:34 UTC No. 16065903
>>16064778
>>16064788
>>16064825
yfw jews try to consensus crack
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 02:32:07 UTC No. 16065904
>>16064778
why is the health care system capacity not going up over time?
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 02:35:54 UTC No. 16065914
>>16065903
Is that Nicholas Cage?
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 02:39:57 UTC No. 16065919
>>16065914
Nikolai Kugelwitz
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 03:04:33 UTC No. 16065939
>>16065900
Just to be clear: you're claiming those videos were made in China?
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 03:08:22 UTC No. 16065943
>>16065896
>a full 60 seconds
A full sixty seconds they could have been treating the plague-level number of dying patients, as is their job, or at least taking a break right? Clearly they had enough energy in them to make these tiktok videos. You propogandized faggots will never cease to amaze me.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 03:11:30 UTC No. 16065944
>>16065939
Read again and ask you teacher if you have trouble understanding English.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 04:05:56 UTC No. 16065976
>>16065007
the crucial part he's omitting is that people don't build immunity to covid, and the vaccines don't do shit either. if that weren't true, it would be a perfect argument.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 04:36:18 UTC No. 16065994
>>16064778
Yeah or at least the same. Can't believe people looked at this chart and said yeah let's waste 2 years of our lives
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 05:43:36 UTC No. 16066020
>>16065944
NTA but really not sure how else to read that post besides "the chinese made those videos"
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 05:46:34 UTC No. 16066029
>>16066020
he's not really in control of his actions, his response shouldn't be taken literally, it's more of a rhetorical flourish
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 07:06:00 UTC No. 16066087
>>16066020
The Chinese decide which of the billion random videos goes "viral". They decide to show dancing nurses and whatever else they want on your phone.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 07:28:54 UTC No. 16066100
>>16064883
What you're asking for is impossible because doctors love killing people
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 07:30:04 UTC No. 16066102
>>16066087
Just to add further examples: TikTok decides that "pranks" go viral in America. Pranks which are basically pure harassment. The more of a menace to society you are, the more clicks you get. Meanwhile this kind of content is banned in China. If your harass other people and post a video on Chinese TikTok it's being removed. They don't want this shit ruin their society. Do you remember the "Kia challenge"? A bunch of kids were "challenged" to steal cars. Can you imagine this shit would fly in China? Of course not. However, in the US, such society-breaking behaviour went viral. Eight people died. Countless of vehicles were totalled.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 10:17:00 UTC No. 16066196
>>16065976
>that people don't build immunity to covid
Science deniers conspiracy theorists please go. Natural immunity is real.
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 16:03:01 UTC No. 16066526
>>16066087
>The Chinese
haha... yeah
Chinese
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 16:04:18 UTC No. 16066531
>>16066102
>TikTok decides that "pranks" go viral in America. Pranks which are basically pure harassment. The more of a menace to society you are, the more clicks you get. Meanwhile this kind of content is banned in China
Sounds like a certain other group in the US
Anonymous at Sun, 10 Mar 2024 16:07:28 UTC No. 16066536
>>16066087
Can't you fucking morons just accept that your own fucking government has more incentive, means and power to control you with propaganda than the fucking Chinese? All those Russian/Chinese/Iranian/[insert current geopolitical enemy here] bots are a psyop. It is YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT doing this to you, to keep you stupid and divided, and not worrying about how THEY are fucking you over. China has other things to worry about, like China.