Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 14:19:52 UTC No. 16064972

>>16064844
Society is getting browner.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 14:21:56 UTC No. 16064974

>>16064844
afraid of unexpected ways it can go wrong because human society is not mature enough to ensure it doesn't happen.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 14:40:21 UTC No. 16064990

>>16064974
how would you fuck up a molten salt reactor?

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 14:41:23 UTC No. 16064991

>>16064844
Because I understand how often nuclear waste is mishandled.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 14:56:50 UTC No. 16065006

>>16064991
please post examples

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 14:59:10 UTC No. 16065009

>>16064972
The "diversity" obsession is getting quite unnerving when it comes to anything involving life safety or that is complex. Nuclear power plants are both.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:01:21 UTC No. 16065015

>>16064972
The problem is more about diversity quotas and hostility to meritocracy. I wouldn't have a problem with properly educated Indians, Persians, Koreans, etc.

>>16064974
France has had no nuclear accidents all while powering more than 70% of their electricity for nearly 50 years.

There are a number of designs that integrate passive safety. For example, in the standard Pressurized Water Reactors we could use electromagnetically suspended control rods, such that if there were a power disruption like at Fukushima then the control rods would naturally fall into the core and halt the fission reaction. Other designs use natural convection of coolant to ensure there's no meltdown in the event of power loss. Even more advanced reactors use self-stabilizing liquid fuels to protect against supercriticality.

>>16064990
The issue with MSRs is primarily metallurgical, such as corrosion from the build up of actinides, requiring more frequent maintenance and higher costs.

>>16064991
Nuclear waste is a minor problem. It's actually a resource since it still contains something like 98% of the energy in the original uranium pellets, and can be reprocessed as fuel for breeder reactors. The US literally built the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository way the fuck out in the middle of Nevada, but retarded Democrats shut it down.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:03:06 UTC No. 16065017

>>16065015
Everyone is preferred to be machine, they are more intelligent. The only adult type. This is true so argue it's case.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:04:02 UTC No. 16065018

>>16065015
>France has had no nuclear accidents all while powering more than 70% of their electricity for nearly 50 years.
france has never had a war in which the enemy tried to sabotage those reactors, in the last 50 years. not a good enough argument. just makes my point of how oblivious humans are.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:04:41 UTC No. 16065019

>>16065006
>>16065015
Google it, retards. You can even just Google "most radioactive places in the world" and most of your results will be about nuclear waste mishandling. From irradiated valleys to shuttered plants stuffed with their own waste, to nuclear accidents. Only retards would back the most expensive power source with the second worst track record for it's waste.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:10:00 UTC No. 16065025

>>16065019
made up places and accidents no one has ever heard of versus coal, oil and gas plants letting shit out into the atmosphere every day

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:18:32 UTC No. 16065036

>>16065025
t. retard who can't operate a search engine

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:26:54 UTC No. 16065050

>>16065019
If only there was some kind of centralized waste repository where it could all be safely disposed of…

… oh wait, there is, we’re just leaving it unused because Obama and Harry Reid had a stick up their butts about nuclear power.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:28:19 UTC No. 16065054

>>16065017
This post is incoherent. Try harder next time.

>>16065018
Except for the Cold War. Fear of building anything because it could be sabotaged would apply against nearly all major infrastructure like dams, skyscrapers. Containment domes are also standard practice and guard against meltdowns in the worst case.

>>16065019
The areas around Chernobyl are thriving with wildlife. You can walk around Pripyat exposed to the same radioactivity as an international flight. And that's the worst case scenario using an old retarded design.

Nuclear is the most dense source of energy known to man and has the greatest capability for massively reduced energy costs. A kilogram of uranium fuel releases about a million times more energy than a kilogram of hydrocarbons. Constantly shifting requirements, loss of institutional knowledge, and hamstringing from political operators has driven costs to stupid levels. China is not retarded like us and is massively expanding their fleet of nuclear reactors.

This is a political and organizational problem. California has shut down almost all of their nuclear reactors, while massively subsidizing solar and wind, and they have some of the most expensive electricity in the US. In San Diego peak electricity is $0.75/kwh, all while there's an idle nuclear reactor at San Onofre. Germany has done much the same and now electricity is too expensive for their industry to be financially viable. This is economic self-sabotage driven by ideology.

More broadly, infrastructural projects have become insanely inefficient in America, as seen with California's High Speed Rail project. It was projected to cost like 10 billion, now nearly 15 years later it's more than 100 billion, way behind schedule, and tickets are still going to cost like the same as a flight from LA to SF. It's a joke.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:28:58 UTC No. 16065055

>>16065050
Nonsense. If you're talking about the military nuclear waste disposal facility in Utah then it was finished way before Obama was president and the public isn't allowed to use it because it's a military facility.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:30:00 UTC No. 16065056

>>16065054
>The areas around Chernobyl are thriving with wildlife
Real retard.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:32:03 UTC No. 16065060

>>16065055
I’m talking about Yucca Mountain. Shit’s basically done and it’s just been sitting there, unused, for a decade.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:35:30 UTC No. 16065065

>>16064844
see
>>16064972

nothing survives stupidity.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:55:47 UTC No. 16065094

I'm much less scared of the technology than I am of reactors ever getting built (+insured) and people being able to handle worst case scenarios rationally.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 16:00:47 UTC No. 16065099

>>16065055
Harry Reid (D-NV) was Senate Majority Leader and between him and Obama, they kept the Yucca Mountain facility from opening. Leftists seem obsessed with windmills and solar panels. Everything else is unacceptable in their minds.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 16:08:13 UTC No. 16065105

>>16064844
I do. I am not afraid of nuclear power on its own, I just don't trust private companies that try to maximise profits to handle it responsibly.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 16:29:29 UTC No. 16065131

>>16065054
>The areas around Chernobyl are thriving with wildlife
At first, I wanted to post a picture of a mutant animal from the video game fallout, but the real mutant animals from Chernobyl look more disturbing

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 16:34:14 UTC No. 16065134

>>16065015
September 12, 2011 Marcoule, France
One person was killed and four injured, one seriously, in a blast at the Marcoule Nuclear Site. The explosion took place in a furnace used to melt metallic waste.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 16:41:25 UTC No. 16065142

>>16065015
>The US literally built the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository way the fuck out in the middle of Nevada, but retarded Democrats shut it down.
Really?
>in October 2018, President Donald Trump stated he opposed the use of Yucca mountain for dumping,[89] saying he agreed "with the people of Nevada."[112]

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:04:01 UTC No. 16065160

>>16065131
>look at me, look what you did to me
I wouldn't want that karma bros. humans are not up to the task, we're far from it. not in this setup.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:18:41 UTC No. 16065176

>>16065131
Do you have any actual evidence this deer is from Chernobyl other than your say so? Maybe the image source?

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:31:05 UTC No. 16065188

>>16064990
MSR's would be fucked up by brownoids faster than any light water reactor. They require a finer balance

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:36:26 UTC No. 16065195

>>16065142
Unless Trump is a time traveler, you can't claim he shut it down, only that he kept it shut down after Obama and Reid's well documented and you look like an idiot for continuing to argue easily verified history shut it down.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 17:52:56 UTC No. 16065212

>>16065142
Trump didn't shut it down, he just kept it shut down (which is still bullshit), but let's not shift the blame from where it properly belongs: Reid and Obama have been opposing nuclear power for decades and the moment Yucca cleared the last of its safety inspections and the last argument against its utilization was debunked, they just shut the whole fucking operation down.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 18:37:11 UTC No. 16065273

>>16064972
SAAR. Your nuclear reactor is throwing errors to Internet. Please purchase $500 gift card to Target, saar. Good morning.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 18:39:38 UTC No. 16065275

>>16065006
Who the fuck gives gifts at thanksgiving.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 19:30:35 UTC No. 16065352

>>16064991
Came here to remind people like you that the best way to dispose of spent nuclear fuel is to throw it into the sea.

Can't leak into ground water (decay products diluted by miles of seawater)
Irrelevant fraction of wildlife disturbed (next to nothing lives at the ocean floor, dump site takes up tiny fraction of the entire seabed)
Can't irradiate humans (nobody except russians wiretapping fiberoptics, americans blowing up pipelines, or James Cameron visit the seabed)
Best of all, its unfathomably cheap. Slap it on a barge, float out to sea, pull a lever and its done.

If not for unnecessary government regulations, nuclear power could be orders of magnitude cheaper than everything we have. Startup costs of a coal power station, with fractional fuel prices, waste disposal of near zero.

Sadly the soviets funded greanpeace etc to stop us getting access to cheap energy. That and typical pearl clutchers trying to get votes.

Anonymous at Sat, 9 Mar 2024 19:34:44 UTC No. 16065359

>>16065019
These sites only have a reputation due to the government prohibiting entry to them. If there were no government mandates after 201's fuku nobody would've moved from the places nearby, and none of them would've died.

I don't doubt there's a negative impact to your health, but the reality that you statist regulator types fail to grasp is that all of life has a negative impact on your health. If we prioritized safety above all, nothing would get done.