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๐Ÿงต mach effect

Anonymous No. 16065162

seems pretty simple in concept, have 2 capacitors, charge 1 and move the capacitors apart, charge the other and move them closer
as energy has mass this will generate small amounts of thrust in one direction
however wouldn't the electricity flowing between the components counteract this force?
i only say this because its been in development for 30 years and has received multiple grants from NASA, if I'm smart enough to see that then I'm sure they would too

Anonymous No. 16065403

>>16065162
id do the same thing but with flywheels in place of the capacitors. Flywheels "charge up" spinning at relativistic speed and gain mass, discharge and move, repeats like your one by same principle.

Anonymous No. 16065453

>>16065403
to increase mass by 10% you would need to go at 42%c
i think past 0.001c the flywheel would disintegrate

Anonymous No. 16065457

>>16065162
Sounds like crackpot science. Energy has mass but energy and momentum are still conserved, so I'm not sure what the point is. You can't change the mass/energy or momentum of an isolated system, period. If you have a more detailed description of the mechanism I could probably find the specific error that is being made.

Anonymous No. 16065466

>>16065403
>Flywheels "charge up" spinning at relativistic speed
no flywheel ever "charged up" anywhere near relativistic speeds

Anonymous No. 16065530

>>16065457
this is a NASA report on the actual devices working
https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/niac_2018_phii_woodward_macheffects_2_tagged.pdf?emrc=8e4663

this seems to be an actual paper on the theory
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/269207998_Theory_of_a_Mach_Effect_Thruster_I

I was more just wondering if the transfer of energy through a wire produces a force
or any energy transfer for that matter

Anonymous No. 16065636

The positive results were conclusively shown to be a non linear vibration artifact a couple years ago.
The Woodward thread in the New Physics section of the NasaSpaceflight forums has the details.

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Anonymous No. 16065712

>>16065636
seems pretty recent discussion too
thanks man, seems like a cool site

Anonymous No. 16065747

>>16065457
It would be conserved, the energy is expended on the capacitor which causes motion.