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🧵 What are some /sci/-approved ways to remain productive?

Anonymous No. 16072610

I'm a college student and I have a really hard time getting to work and studying consistently. I probably have ADHD but I don't want to waste my hard-earned money on a psychiatrist for a useless diagnosis. I know people who just take modafinil/ritalin when they need it but I'd rather avoid drugs/medications.

One thing I've noticed is that when people expect me to do something, or when my work is to be directly graded and compared with others, I get very motivated and productive. But alas there's no such competition/camaraderie in college and I'm all by myself. So what usually happens is that I do nothing for 3 months then try to cram an entire semester's worth of classes in seven little days before the exams.

Tl;dr: college student, can't get to work, can't study consistently, what do

Anonymous No. 16072618

>>16072610
Block all social media
Sit down

Anonymous No. 16072799

>>16072618
4chan is the only "social media" I use, I've tried blocking it but I always end up coming back

Anonymous No. 16072922

>>16072799
>>16072799
Not a /sci/vet so take my advice with some grain of sault. Try a Reward punishment or otherwise known as positive and negative reinforcement model. Basically write down what you want to do and how much you have achieved that day. When you reach a certain threshold the reward yourself with sth. you like and can remember later in your long term memory.
Be careful when you use it, do not become dependent on it. Alternatively try to do some of the more fun or interesting aspects of your class,when you can not concentrate. "Fun" is a powerful supportive tool.

poop No. 16072928

>>16072610
Firstly, ignore ADHD, it is not a "mental disease" but a product of enviromental conditions. Absolutely never take any medication for it or any kind of psychiatric drug.

You have to understand the biological/physiological reason for why you are lazy and can't get to do anything productive.

Every living being is programmed to seek pleasure. It is pleasure that drives us to do actions which will benefit us. It is pleasurable to eat healthy/tasty food, to have sex, to sleep, to smile, etc. We are rewarded by Mother Nature when we do what is healthy for us.

Now I will use an example of something "productive". Is there any reward and pleasure from cleaning your room? Absolutely zero. The body has no idea what is "cleaning your room" because it was not naturally programmed to know what cleaning your room actually means. All your body knows is that it is a stressful waste of energy.

Almost anything we categorize as "productive" has zero natural meaning which is stressful and not pleasurable. Being lazy is natural because your body always wants to be in comfort and not waste energy. It is comfort that heals and makes you fertile.

All "pleasure" we get from "productive activity" is actually the relief of finishing the activity as in finishing the stressful waste of energy. Don't you feel relief when you finish that hot garbage homework?

Enough of mumbo jumbo and here is the actual solution: Do you remember when you were a kid and the way your parents made you do the dishes or clean your room was limiting your pleasure? "You will only able to play video games if you clean your room!".

This is exactly what you should do. You should only turn on your computer/phone or do something you like only after you did your chores. Your brain will now begin associating your boring chores as something naturally meaningful.

Anonymous No. 16072941

>>16072928
To be fair sometimes Meds can help, but only if you have a biological Problem, for example a reduced dopamine production (the Hormone for Pleasure Seeking/the hormone that is released when you "feel happy/pleasure".

poop No. 16072943

>>16072610
>One thing I've noticed is that when people expect me to do something, or when my work is to be directly graded and compared with others, I get very motivated and productive.

Yea exactly. Your body expects a natural meaningful pleasure when you finish your chores.

poop No. 16072954

>>16072941
Every biological problem is a special program of nature. To intervene it with medication is to stress your body. learninggnm dot cum to learn more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z57uBCcOdvI

Anonymous No. 16072970

>>16072954
Please elaborate. Do you mean that environmental Factors like multiple periods of stress, that can reshape the DNA structure, have their cause in the "nature" or do you mean "nature" as in evolutionary Reflexes or sth. like that?

poop No. 16072981

>>16072970
enviromental factors = the stuff around you

Anonymous No. 16073005

>>16072981
Yes. So you are suggesting that issues like ADHD, can not be affected positively by Meds and that ADHD diagnosed at the kinder garden age could not be caused by a cormorbid psychological issue? I´m also not angry at you. I would just like to understand what you mean exactly.

>>16072610
Sorry if we are rambling here, but I think we both approve of each others suggested methods for you to overcome your problem.

poop No. 16073027

>>16073005
>So you are suggesting that issues like ADHD, can not be affected positively by Meds?

Yes, they also cause infertility problems.

> and that ADHD diagnosed at the kinder garden age could not be caused by a cormorbid psychological issue?

Yes, kids are diagnosed with ADHD because they think school sucks and they wont bother to pay attention. But I'm pretty sure agitation can be caused by genetics.

Anonymous No. 16073051

>>16073027
I´m still unsure. When I say Meds, you know I mean tested Medicamentation, prescribed by personal doctors, who deal with ADHD on a regular basis. To be fair the dosage also plays a big part, I think 10 or 20mg spread over 3 to 5 hours is okay. Are you from America or Germany. The Vide was at least German.

>Yes, kids are diagnosed with ADHD because they think school sucks and they wont bother to pay attention. But I'm pretty sure agitation can be caused by genetics.

So you are essentially saying we are trapped in our own bodies, because we have no Control over our Genetics? Also because I find your theory interesting, when you meant "causing stress to your body", would that be harmful over longer periods of time or would the body not acclimate to the stress?

poop No. 16073075

>>16073051
To be honest I know nothing about meds, I just don't trust a bunch of chemicals going into my body. I just know a guy that had bad reactions from it such as infertlity.

>So you are essentially saying we are trapped in our own bodies, because we have no Control over our Genetics?

Yes and no. We are trapped in our own genetics but we have the ability to change it.

>when you meant "causing stress to your body", would that be harmful over longer periods of time or would the body not acclimate to the stress?

Stress is always harmful on long periods and yes, the body will acclimate to it but this is not something you want because all acclimations of stress will cost your fertility and longevity.

Anonymous No. 16073076

>>16072610
you sure do seem to like talking about yourself on social media

Anonymous No. 16073085

>>16072610
>useless diagnosis
A diagnosis is the most useful thing you can do for yourself, dumbo. Especially if you suspect something. But they might rule it out as well, which is also useful. Or they might point you in the direction you never suspected.
Don't argue. I won't be staying here and wasting my energy to convince you. But we already know you will ignore it because you're too scared to learn about yourself and carry on making damage to yourself and your life pursuing blind misaimed self-improvement or even self-medication.

Anonymous No. 16073089

>>16072928
>Firstly, ignore ADHD
Firstly, ignore that anon. I didn't even finish reading the rest of that sentence.

Anonymous No. 16073144

>>16073075

>Yes and no. We are trapped in our own genetics but we have the ability to change it.
I think I agree

>when you meant "causing stress to your body", would that be harmful over longer periods of time or would the body not acclimate to the stress?

>Stress is always harmful on long periods and yes, the body will acclimate to it but this is not something you want because all acclimations of stress will cost your fertility and longevity.

That is true. However if the Medication does not cause Stress then you´re probably fine, though..

>To be honest I know nothing about meds, I just don't trust a bunch of chemicals going into my body. I just know a guy that had bad reactions from it such as infertlity.

I know how you feel. Caution and Introspective are good Things. Unsupervised and reckless intake of Meds can cuase addiction or problems like your friend describes. The Thing is always, if you have a Secondary Health Problem, Medication ain´t it. Especially when it is a Methamphetemine. The Dosage, your surroundings/environmental factors and how often you check up with the Doctor who prescribes you your Medication, that determines if you profit from Medication.
Because Surprise, surprise I have been taking Meds since I was 5 and I think now Medication can help, but only when it is in a responsibly used, maybe even with therapeutic elements. But never, never and I will agree with you on that one, just use Meds as the first and only Response to "Health Issues", such as ADHD.

Anonymous No. 16073230

>>16072610
I have ADHD and been taking therapeutic doses of amphetamines for few months. They surely help IF you have list of things in your hand already -- because if you aren't sure what to do, your brain's reward system would take over and then you'd be drawn to "most rewarding" evolutionarily salient like porn, masturbation, and sex addiction. This is why some people (including me) experience hypersexuality with these drugs -- if you aren't determined enough to get shit done, you shouldn't take the dose.

Personally, creating artificial deadlines help. For example, let's say I'm having a midterm on 20th March, and today is 10th March. I usually fuck around procrastinate until 18th March and cram my entire syllabus into 2 days of study just to barely pass the exam. Since the medication, it helped me develop metacognitive skills. I create artificial deadlines, like a topic that must be completed by 14th March, and another topic completed by 17th March, etc.

Use a digital calendar. I found Google calendar very useful (don't listen to autistic retards here going REEE on using jewgle). Google also have "tasks" built-into the calendar which is very useful to keep track of todo-tasks. Use Google Keep for quick notes (I also found that to be ADHD friendly).

Anonymous No. 16073621

>>16073230
This. I constantly set artificial dead lines. Sometimes, I keep a timer running too, helps me not procrastinate

🗑️ Anonymous No. 16073632

you sure do seem to like talking about yourself on social media