Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:53:08 UTC No. 16078973

>>16078971
According to whom?

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:01:11 UTC No. 16078978

>>16078973
Causality

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:02:48 UTC No. 16078981

>>16078971
The total energy of the universe is 0

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:07:32 UTC No. 16078990

>>16078981
If so, why did it arrange itself into a dense chunk at the big bang? Should've just stayed an even 0.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:12:37 UTC No. 16079001

>>16078990
It did stay an even 0. The total energy of the universe is 0.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:15:50 UTC No. 16079009

>>16079001
I meant evenly distributed, not as net 0. Also I'm pretty sure "negative" energy is just a maths abstraction in newtonian physics and not an actual thing.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:16:26 UTC No. 16079011

>he doesn't understand what "usable energy" is

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 12:18:47 UTC No. 16079014

>>16079011
No, supposedly any type of energy can not be created or destroyed.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 14:33:14 UTC No. 16079178

>>16078971
The universe started off as just a blob of energy when the big bang happened, so the energy was already there. I think energy can be created or destroyed in some processes though, I remember reading something about that, I can't remember, my brain is not good

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 14:33:15 UTC No. 16079179

The Big Bang is a lie told by physicists to grift tax money.

Do a thought experiment you brainwashed retards, pretend Simulation Theory is real. Just pretend OK? Now starting from that position try to explain all the "problems in cosmology" like the one OP outlines. See how many of these "problems" are solved when you plug in this solution. Now go cry in your bed for days on end and try to forget what you just learned because you are too weak and pathetic to confront the unrealness of your reality. Fucking cowards.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 14:41:39 UTC No. 16079196

>>16079179
I don't know if this is some kind of bait, but the big bang is a decent idea that resolves a few cosmological problems. In particular, the CMB tells us that the universe is very homogeneous and that the background temperature varies very little across the universe, like less than 1 degree K. To be in thermodynamic equilibrium like that means there must have been heat transfer between various regions of space. But those regions are currently further apart than the speed of light could travel in that time, which means that those regions must have been much closer and basically compressed together at some point

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 15:01:52 UTC No. 16079233

>>16079196
The big bang doesn't explain anything just like the trajectory of a thrown ball does not explain the underlying biochemistry of the arm that threw it.

Yes stuff was closer together before, very neat fact snippet but nothing more than that. Is there some sort of energy creation mechanism that spat out all this energy we see? What was the prime cause?

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 16:07:37 UTC No. 16079355

>>16078971
The simple explanation is that energy cannot be created or destroyed within the confines of a universe that obeys causality. Nothing is really stopping absurd bullshit from happening outside of those constraints though.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 16:28:27 UTC No. 16079386

>>16078971
It was never created and it will never be destroyed, what's so hard to understand?

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 16:48:00 UTC No. 16079444

>>16079386
>It was never created
Then causality doesnt exist and we live in schizoverse

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:43:43 UTC No. 16079880

>>16079444
seems to exist inside of the universe.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:53:38 UTC No. 16079906

Mathematically speaking, since the universe always boils down to a 0, we will have and had this exact same lifetime play out an infinite amount of times.
I wish we could transfer some sort of information to the next replay of the universe, but I'm afraid that's impossible.
We're stuck in an endless and pointless replay of the same exact infinite universe, as a mathematical inevitability.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 20:54:30 UTC No. 16079908

>>16079906
nah, it varies each time.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:31:14 UTC No. 16080002

>>16079908
The universe is a non-existent manifestation of mathematical zero, therefore it can only ever exist in a single way. Determinism ensures that there are no variations possible.
The pain and suffering in your head, you have already experienced it an infinite amount of times, and you will continue experiencing it, as well as re-reading my comment an infinite amount of times. Do your future iterations a favor, and stop having negative emotions. It's the only thing your consciousness (believes) it can control. ;)

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:36:33 UTC No. 16080010

>>16080002
>zero
why?
>Determinism ensures that there are no variations possible.
prove it. predict random events

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:52:39 UTC No. 16080035

>>16080010
Are you midwit saying all maths and physics mean shit as there will always be variations?

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:54:44 UTC No. 16080040

>>16080035
>Are you midwit saying all maths and physics mean shit
nope. that's exactly what I think you are doing, supposing shit without proof.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 22:03:59 UTC No. 16080052

>>16080010
>predict random events
No event is ever random. Only so complex, that it becomes near impossible to predict, unless you re-create the entire universe, but with less parameters.

🗑️ Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 22:05:47 UTC No. 16080056

>>16080040
Show me your proof then rocket scientist.
Show me you next day wake up as a turkey before Christmas

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 22:13:26 UTC No. 16080066

>>16080040
Maybe you rocket scientist can prove randomness by waking up tomorrow reincarnating as a hog

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 22:14:49 UTC No. 16080070

>>16078971
There is an equal but opposite universe somewhere, and it's full of UN-ergy

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 22:16:15 UTC No. 16080072

>>16080040
Also FYI, the definition of supposition IS An idea or theory is assumed to be true without concrete evidence, often based on conjecture or speculation.
Buy yourself a dictionary dickhead

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 22:22:30 UTC No. 16080080

>>16079355
The universe is a choas fractal. All states are fleeting and temporal, leading to other states. You are excluded from a complete calculation of irrational numbers, and yet the particles are made from these numbers. You can predict, but you can never be. We are in the temporal realm, a happy coincidence dreamt up the the eternal irrational.

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 22:46:21 UTC No. 16080123

>>16080052
>No event is ever random. Only so complex
kys
>>16080072
same

Anonymous at Fri, 15 Mar 2024 23:01:42 UTC No. 16080149

>>16079233
The energy was there at the start of the big bang. The theory is that the universe was very small and then expanded to become very big. It doesn't assume where the energy came from. It's not possible to know that with the information we have

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 02:14:55 UTC No. 16080416

>>16078971
What do you think the physical basis for energy is?

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:40:33 UTC No. 16080639

>>16080149
>It doesn't assume where the energy came from
Right, but let's just come up with ideas here. Either the energy was created by some mechanism or the universe does not have causality and just does weird shit sometimes.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:46:45 UTC No. 16080649

>>16080639
>Either the energy was created by some mechanism
prove it. create some energies
>or the universe does not have causality and just does weird shit sometimes.
is causality inside. outside yeah..most likely very weird shits

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:49:30 UTC No. 16080657

>>16078971
>>Energy can't be created or destroyed
stopped reading here

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:50:21 UTC No. 16080658

>>16080649 Me
>outside
if there even is such a thing. all we see might be all there is in literally any conceivable sense.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:57:23 UTC No. 16080664

>>16080649
>prove it. create some energies
The observation of it is enough. Only when discussing this topic do you get such weird responses. It'd be like if we observe life on Earth and then instantly turn around and claim it is impossible to have life on Earth

Either you concede that causality is not real or energy can be created from nothing.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 07:38:51 UTC No. 16080735

>>16079444
You have a misconception that reality operates according to your limited beliefs

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 08:50:08 UTC No. 16080800

>>16080664
>The observation of it is enough.
not if the thing you observe is causing causality as it were. you can't extend that without proof, seems like a pretty special case. especially with the whole "seems you can't really create energy" bit. unless you can?
I get it that it's intuitive to suppose it was created, I understand why, I'm just pointing out you have no proof for it being created, you just have evidence, it existing and all. but without creating some of this energy that "was created" you can't really say it was created, you can at most make a wild guess, at most.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 09:10:13 UTC No. 16080817

>>16080800 me
think about it, it always existed for an infinity is the same type of fucking retarded as this shit even existing in the first place. even if "created" by some god or chance. like that is more sane or what?

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 09:19:47 UTC No. 16080824

Is everyone underage here? It feels like I'm chatting with edgy 13 year olds who watched a cartoon science show their entire lives

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 09:21:21 UTC No. 16080827

>>16080824
you could have made a point instead

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:05:34 UTC No. 16081296

>>16080824
welcome to /sci/ lol

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:31:30 UTC No. 16081330

>>16078971
Actual energy is pure, unrestrained potentiality at perfect rest, thougheverbeit

It's not really accurate to speak of dissipating force in motion as "energy"

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 20:40:40 UTC No. 16081862

>>16081330
everything is this primordial energy anon. you and I and the planets and everything else we see.