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Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 02:25:19 UTC No. 16080429
Are the jannies schizophrenics themselves?
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 02:29:38 UTC No. 16080435
>>16080429
I think everyone is just tired of hearing "schizo, schizo, schizo!" over and over again
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 02:35:02 UTC No. 16080442
>>16080429
maybe it's not so much that we are being harassed by schizos and pol-tards, but that we already adapted to the phantasm of harassment that we act as if.
by that I do not only mean that we are fighting straw-men in our head but also that due to the way of how we react to each other we force our counter-parts into increasingly more schizophrenic argumentation.
almost as if we were being taken hostage by a paranoid delusion. ..
maybe, we were the schizos all along.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 02:36:48 UTC No. 16080446
>>16080429
i dont know. i think they just deal with the easiest, low-hanging fruit. if someone calls out jannies, delete. someone spams NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER in an OP, delete. anything else? probably not getting dealt with.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 02:37:51 UTC No. 16080448
>>16080429
jannies are all for lolbertarian free speech until it means criticizing their horseshit ideology and the complete shit show that has become this board
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 03:12:51 UTC No. 16080484
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 03:33:13 UTC No. 16080505
>>16080429
No. They deleted the thread because I reported the last few posts by the bumpfag shortly before and they were too lazy to delete every single one of those.
Now let's move on to more productive things.
Like actually scraping sci.
I've looked at warosu and all you get on warosu is html. You could run a script that just runs curl and does some regex stuff to parse the posts. I've done that in a semi automated way to get my posts once.
Anyone willing to look at what eientei has to offer?
Another mirror would be boards fireden net/sci
wiki archiveteam org/index.php/4chan lists some more mirrors.
Also interesting would be the sci archive of yuki la from 2021.
You can get it at archive ph/TOQ4i (torrent, you will have to select /sci/ only or you will have to download 500GB). It is raw html. Unzipped /sci/ makes up about 20GB. Would be great if anyone is willing to parse this. Maybe some nice json file.
Maybe I'll do it (but I am very lazy)
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 03:46:34 UTC No. 16080520
>>16080429
The removal of the IP counter is going to completely destroy the site.
All the previous posts were made by me and you can’t prove otherwise. There is only one poster in this thread, me.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 03:57:37 UTC No. 16080533
and these "jannies" that you speak of
are they in the room right now?
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 04:03:50 UTC No. 16080540
>>16080505
It's unbelievable. The archive from yuki.la contains 594,439 threads.
I'll keep you updated.
And maybe I'll actually upload a json file after proper parsing. But probably it will be 5GB big or so.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:33:52 UTC No. 16080630
I find the bot posters the most annoying. I'm so sick of seeing "what is it about black holes..." and "talking about yourself on social media..." and "do you look like a scientist" and "where are all the aliens" and soforth. At least I can filter the last two. The people creating these need to die
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:37:22 UTC No. 16080636
>>16080429
Every opinion expressed on this board, especially regarding Covid or vaccines, is dismissed as schizo by the disingenuous reddit-tier fag mob who don't want their viewpoints or internal, politically-motivated narratives challenged, whether the evidence is on their side or not.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:38:52 UTC No. 16080638
>>16080636
>every opinion
Every opinion that runs contrary to certain political narratives, I mean
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:44:34 UTC No. 16080646
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:45:04 UTC No. 16080647
>>16080636
the covid and vaccine and climate change posts can get annoying after seeing them almost every day. The people creating them are just agenda-posting
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:48:11 UTC No. 16080654
>>16080647
>The people creating them are just agenda-posting
Or maybe this is one of the only places on the internet with even moderate traffic that allows them to openly discuss these issues (particularly covid and vaccines), issues that happen to be among the most important of our time?
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:48:57 UTC No. 16080655
>>16080630
Twum is the best thing thats ever happened to /sci/, she is pretty much the only unique board culture /sci/ has ever developed. You probably only get upset at seeing her because you're a racist, a sexist or homophobic (probably all three).
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:51:46 UTC No. 16080661
>>16080647
>my opinion
>covid very bad
>vaccine very good
>soience
>ur opinion
>covid no big deal
>vaccine highly sus
>AGENDA-POSTING. GO BACK TO /POL/. THIS IS SOIENCE BOARD
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 05:56:52 UTC No. 16080663
>>16080636
The contrarians do this too. Acting like you're an attorney and it's your job to be biased in the "correct" direction is no less annoying when you do it but it's the standard.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 06:02:14 UTC No. 16080668
>>16080663
But what is a contrarian? If you take covid seriously and still want answers about the the unsafe and ineffective mRNA gene therapies, you're a contrarian? If you believe in climate change but have serious questions about human contribution to it, or its actual threat to human existence, you're a contrarian? Because you don't come to the same conclusions? Sounds very dogmatic of you.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 06:06:20 UTC No. 16080670
>>16080668
"Skeptics" then. What do I care what label you wear.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 06:07:59 UTC No. 16080672
>>16080670
"Skeptic" and "contrarian" are very different terms, with very different implications, Mr. Soience. It's important to be precise with your language.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 06:12:04 UTC No. 16080679
>>16080672
Alright I take it back. You are a totally a contarian.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 06:23:24 UTC No. 16080682
>>16080679
How?
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 07:03:06 UTC No. 16080706
>>16080661
i didn't get the vaccine though. I just don't feel like I have to fight people online over something i don't care about
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 07:04:53 UTC No. 16080707
>>16080654
just don't get the vaccine if you don't want it. Pretty easy. That's what I did. People talk about covid and the vaccine a lot on twitter and r/conspiracy and other subs
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 07:12:35 UTC No. 16080713
>>16080706
>>16080707
You're on a fucking science board, moron, where questions of fucking science are discussed. How are you this dense? You didn't get the vaccine, congratulations, here's a medal. We should still be discussing the scientific merits of the largest vaccination campaign in human history, and its effects on a global population that will have to deal with the virus the vaccine was developed for, for the rest of time. This is not some twenty yeat old issue, you stupid fuck, it's new and constantly evolving. Now fuck off back to your reddit echochamber, pseud.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 07:15:45 UTC No. 16080717
>>16080706
>I just don't feel like I have to fight people online over something I don't care about
So why are you currently fighting someone online about something you don't care about? And no one's forcing you, so if you don't care, don't engage in these threads. Problem solved. Simple, right? But the world doesn't revolve around your faggot ass, and some of us would like to discuss these issues, so politely fuck off.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:02:50 UTC No. 16080989
>>16080429
I fucking swear to god
I posted what I thought the set up was for the bots trashing this website
and suddenly this thread gets deleted as well as all the trash
If you just keep mentioning that the mods and jannies should do their jobs and actually clean the board
If you just keep mentioning that there are bad actors utilizing bots to spread the same garbage over and over to destroy the board
They'll have to clean it up because they do not want you to realize that the bots buy 4chan passes which are their current main source of income
This is how it's done
>build a scraper that scrapes 4chan and /sci/ posts
>do it in such a way that you get all the direct and indirect (reply chain) (You)'s for each post as well as the age
>set up a linear regression model that values posts according to the following formula
>Value = (Number of direct and indirect (You)'s) / Age of the post (probably in days)
>just a simple example of a valuing method
>set up an LLM
>train it on general dialogue using standard datasets
>refine weights on 4chan posts in general (that's why you scrape 4chan in its entirety)
>refine further on /sci/ posts
>highest valued (i.e. most (You)'s) post from the regression model becomes input for the LLM
>make the LLM post 'synonymous' posts to its input
>build a post bot that makes threads or posts using the output from the LLM
>buy 4chan pass (THIS IS WHY THEY LET THE BOTS ROAM FREE BECAUSE THEY PAY FOR IT)
>start shitting up website
This is the method I described and after that suddenly the thread got deleted. Not even archived naturally but deleted. So finally a fucking jannie did what he's supposed to do and started reporting threads. Or finally a fucking mod did what he's supposed to do and started deleting threads.
The solutions are simple
>take on more jannies
>take on more mods
Hell you could even set up your own counter LLM and a GAN to determine which are low quality bot posts and which aren't and automatically delete them.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:11:58 UTC No. 16080995
>>16080989
>So finally a fucking jannie did what he's supposed to do and started reporting threads. Or finally a fucking mod did what he's supposed to do and started deleting threads.
You've put in a lot of effort for somebody so new he doesn't realize jannies can delete threads
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:13:24 UTC No. 16080999
>>16080505
The thing is to not just build a bot.
We'd need to build a counter-bot. Basically a GAN that detects whether a bot is a bot or not. However we don't know their valuing method for determining post value. Although it's definitely dependent on (You)'s. However we don't need to.
In fact by just manual annotation of a few thousand examples we could get more than enough training data to set up a Neural Net which could beat a linear regression algorithm.
So the trick would be to create a bot just like I mentioned here:
>>16080989
But instead of linear regression valuing we would use an NN to value posts. This way we can use non-linear regression to overcome the issue of not knowing what the value function is for the bot posters
To train that NN we would need to annotate data, could also be done really easily. Just annotate a few thousand posts from the archives which are garbage posts. And a few thousand which are good posts. Probably need more like 10k per category and maybe we'd need more categories but from my experience after you've got about 1k of examples an NN starts recognizing what it is.
Now however we only have a very general (which is good) bot poster.
We would need to recognize bot posters instead. We can do that with a GAN which uses the bot poster model to consistently determine whether a post is a bot post or not
I'll need to read into a few things but I'll start having some thoughts about it. I'm almost done with my thesis so after this I've got some actual free time.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:14:26 UTC No. 16081003
>>16080995
wait jannies can delete threads?? I thought they had to report it to mods and then the mods deleted them. I always imaged them to be gigacucked over it but apparently they can just do their job. Which begs the question, why don't they.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:17:42 UTC No. 16081007
>>16080646
The absolute saddest thing about this is that we might not even be suffering from bots
just a fuckton of worthless indians shilling the most garbage worthless posts for 3 cents per You.
>>16080636
>>16080655
>>16080660
>>16080661
see all these posts
just useless dismissive garbage
none of it discusses the thread at hand
because they're either indians
or bots
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:18:17 UTC No. 16081008
>>16080636
>Covid or vaccines
Why do we need 7 threads about this? We don't. One should suffice since it's all the same "vaxx baaaad".
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 12:48:29 UTC No. 16081096
>>16080999
This will never be possible. You can't actually distinguish bots or payed posters.
Btw: I think they come from russia (at least payment wise). Also the schizophrenia of this thread is really a bit too much imo. The bots are annoying, but they will not go away. And you can't just ban everything like a redditor.
I am here because I like seeing every viewpoint without censorship. It's a really fine line between banning annoyance and making the board sterile. Probably there is no line.
My interest in the dataset is less detecting bots. I am more interested in how the board culture changed (which I imagine happens all the time) and why.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 12:58:47 UTC No. 16081120
>>16081096
>I am here because I like seeing every viewpoint without censorship.
shut the fuck up nigger
>>16080661
>>16080660
these posts are beyond garbage
they're meant to be garbage to stiffle discussion
https://crestresearch.ac.uk/project
read this shit
it's not fucking russia
it's the UK, the US, and all western fucking states because the Western Empire is just as disgustingly pro censorship as the Russian Empire.
Holy shit imagine thinking it's the goddamn russians shitposting here. Why, why would they do that?
/pol/ is pro-Russian in the sense that they're anti-Western. Most of this website despises Western tranny propaganda. There's no use for Russia to shill here. It's not to their advantage. After 2016 the bots started pouring in. Because the whole Trump fiasco was in part because of /pol/. And now /pol/ is destroying utterly. Who oh who fucking profits off of that.
Think nigger. It's our own elites doing this to destroy discussion.
>I am more interested in how the board culture changed (which I imagine happens all the time)
no not really. Board culture is still the same. The only real difference is the rise of bots which chase away most people.
And you can detect bot posts. Or atleast utter low quality garbage posts such as I showed you before. They're garbage and can easily be detected. Stop well poisoning.
You can easily 3day ban every nigger posting utter garbage. You can still discuss flat earth theory, ancient ayylmaos, and every other non-censorial point of view, but only one thread per subject and no effort shitposts should all be considered bot posts and be hit with a 3 day ban.
You can pretend that's censorship but you know it isn't. Saying flat earth is real and atleast having some arguments is already more than enough to have a 'medium quality' post. Just posting a basedjack with no text should be an immediate 3day ban.
Do you really think you can't between extremely low quality shitposts and medium quality posts
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:03:54 UTC No. 16081131
>>16081120
>just posting a $oyjak with no text should be an immediate 3 day ban
based
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:07:18 UTC No. 16081132
>>16081120
>https://crestresearch.ac.uk/projec
Jesus Christ.
>One way to achieve this would be to regularly post content that looks genuine (using the right language, imagery, etc.) yet is meaningless – this would dilute the message of these boards and make their threads uninteresting, thereby reducing their attractiveness and sense of community.
This is literally what's happening here. Absolutely incredible.
>the Western Empire is just as disgustingly pro censorship as the Russian Empire.
Based knower. The only solution for the west at this point full on revolution, but that's a discussion for /pol/
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:14:58 UTC No. 16081145
>>16081132
>this is literally whats happening here
i dont think they anticipated children flooding 4chan and assimilating with their bots
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:17:40 UTC No. 16081146
The low functioning schizos are only a minor annoyance. Bodhi, Barkun or the maid fag usually stick to one or two threads where they get mocked. I can easily ignore that.
Much worse is the clearly non-authentic 24/7 anti science, anti math and anti intellectualism spam. That's clearly not created by genuine individuals but either by bots or by Indian click workers. Some organization seems to have an incentive to invest a lot of resources into making this board as shitty as possible.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:19:16 UTC No. 16081148
>>16081120
>shut the fuck up nigger
Aaaah yeeees. You're so dirty! More!!!
>Think nigger. It's our own elites doing this to destroy discussion.
Oooh yeah!
We might actually be able to check this if we are clever about it.
>Board culture is still the same.
No. It changes all the time (and I am going to show you once I have the statistics).
By culture I mean what is talked about.
>And you can detect bot posts. Or atleast utter low quality garbage posts such as I showed you before. They're garbage and can easily be detected. Stop well poisoning.
This is not well poisoning. Some anon is going to get the idea of making a live post rating and cry bot about everything that fails his stupid rating without ever thinking about it. But yes, garbage should be banned.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:29:30 UTC No. 16081160
>>16081148
>This is not well poisoning. Some anon is going to get the idea of making a live post rating and cry bot about everything that fails his stupid rating without ever thinking about it. But yes, garbage should be banned.
uhm yes. This is already my idea :)
make a nice little chrome add on for 4chan where you can instantly see a bot rating
because i'm a top tier nigger /pol/ack with an actual msc level education I won't turn it into literal reddit
you'll just get a 4 level category system
>bot tier
>low tier (could be an improved bot or an indian spamming or just a schizo schizobabbling or just a poster shitposting)
>medium tier (flat earth with actual arguments or schizo shitpost but reasonably thought out)
>high tier (actual good info or even flat earth with seriously thought out arguments)
then automatically hide bot tier posts
ez pez then bots will literally become irrelevant
the only way to keep botposting is by upping the quality of the bots
in which case i'll up the quality of my bot detection mechanism
the only way for bot posters to win is to start posting more reasonable material which is exactly what we want
so what if it's bots if they start posting about galois theory or flat earth theory with serious ideas on why and how it works
maybe some sort of frequency detection mechanism so if they post 3 threads with flat earth niggers shit the bot detector can hide the 2 lower quality ones
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:32:57 UTC No. 16081162
>>16081145
it says a lot about the current 18 year olds intelligence
I hope they'll be more inclined to leave the interwebs
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:38:25 UTC No. 16081171
Oh btw: I found the biggest thread in board history: >>9488305 4.25MB
>>16081160
You need more tiers to distinguish quality among actual posts. Maybe a rating system ;)
Also I always imagined the perfect moderation as decentralized. Everyone offers their own moderation services and each and every anon can choose their corresponding mod/janny. That would be easiest to implement via subscription lists through an addon.
So if you are actually going to develop an addon, make shared moderation lists a feature. This way everyone can stay in their own stupid bubble.
A bit like delegated voting.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:47:01 UTC No. 16081191
>>16081171
No. All of that is reddit.
Ratings will divulge into a like system. Never ever do numerical ratings unless you want reddit.
It sounds smart but that's exactly the issue. If it sounds smart it tends to end up badly. Dumb ideas have a simplicity to them that can't be easily undermined.
>grug ai say post is bot/extremely low quality
>grug ai say post is not bot
The purpose would never be to distinguish quality really. Just to get rid of the lowest quality posts and force bots to up the quality of their posts to get the (You)'s they crave.
Also decentralized moderation is literal discord and it's cancer. How did you earlier say you want no censorship but are now arguing for bubbles. Nigger we should have a simple AI algo that determines the lowest quality posts and bans them. Inevitably you'll end up upping the quality of the board. I don't want bubbles. No one should want bubbles. We tried bubbles and we ended up with /lgbt/ troons complimenting each other at how much they're real women while sucking each others dicks and looking a like fat 40 year old balding loser in a dress
No fuck bubbles.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:04:17 UTC No. 16081227
>>16081191
>How did you earlier say you want no censorship but are now arguing for bubbles
The idea is that no one bans any posts (except for the mods banning actually illegal ones). But you can choose to subscribe to other people's hidelists if you want to filter stupidity.
This would 1. enhance freedom 2. make for better filters
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:28:24 UTC No. 16081249
>>16081227
bubbles decrease freedom. Freedom is not an individualist trait but a collective trait. Lolbertarians think freedom is an individual concept and look at what their retardation brought to this world. They're far more guilty of the current worthless state of society than even the leftists. They're enablers of evil. If you're free to hide in your own little bubble you're not free. You're a cuck sitting in your pod.
You're only as free as your neighbour. So you must both experience the same freedom. And that means having the same set of filters. Once you get into bubbles/allowing individualised filters you inevitably end up with some leftypol troon fags retreating into an echo chamber and right wing tards retreating into an echo chamber. It is exactly the problem of our society. The Internet and old /pol/ used to work because everyone was in it together, they weren't stuck in their echo chambers. Old forums were not echo chambers.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:32:50 UTC No. 16081254
>>16081096
>I am here because I like seeing every viewpoint without censorship
Without basic rule enforcement that is exactly what you do not get.
It's fine if people have questions about vaccines, don't understand population genetics or biology and have been tricked into "race realism", or whatever other "edgy" contrarian thing you think you're getting.
It's not fine to have over 9000 posts on these where the interlocutors appear to be bots, or so dishonest as to be indistinguishable from bots, and are unable and unwilling to engage with any of the academic SCIENTIFIC MATERIAL on a SCIENCE BOARD.
I have infinite patience for people with genuine questions. Nobody should have any patience or tolerance for people being willfully ignorant for undisclosed reasons. There's also a term for this: Trolling. There's also a rule for this: Trolling outside of /b/. Guess what rule is never enforced?
Then you have the blatant /pol/ spamposting that never gets banned either despite being obviously off topic.
>I am here because I like seeing every viewpoint without censorship
So this is a contradiction. You're not getting "every viewpoint", you're getting the most dishonest and unhinged viewpoints and the rare person with time to waste who demonstrates immense understanding of the subject material, cites sometimes dozens of scientific articles and describes processes despite active trolling and disinterest and mockery, and everyone else auto-hides the noise for good reason. You're not getting "every viewpoint" because any meaningful discussion can't take place when the whole discourse is hijacked by the most unhinged minority. Whether bots or trolls. That means you are ultimately only getting TWO viewpoints: Science and anti-science.
You're getting ZERO, or nearly zero, genuine discussion of the plurality of viewpoints about the actual science. Cut the shit.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:34:14 UTC No. 16081256
>>16081249
>old /pol/
No such thing. /pol/ will always be what pulled in all the newfags. We used to joke that /b/ was always cancer, but 4chan became the worst type of cancer when /pol/ attracted unironic neonazis. You see the damage on this very board. It's supposed to be a science board and it's mostly about global warming denial, antivaxx bullshit and other schizophrenia.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:39:21 UTC No. 16081266
>>16081249
>Irrelevant spergout about an irrelevant burger political party
Damn anarchists are like gods or supervillains or demons for burgers huh?
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:46:24 UTC No. 16081273
>>16081249
You make a cogent argument, and I think it resembles the paradox of tolerance. In much the same way that same paradox affects discourse: Without even bare minimum standards on reciprocity the discourse can only ever sink to the lowest common denominator. In much the same way you point out, that you are only as free as your neighbor, the discourse is only as good as you mutually make it.
In effect without any kind of meaningful rule enforcement you only get noise because who the hell is going to bother adjusting and tweaking and filtering it out when I can just go somewhere else? However small the added effort the fact is that effort is there.
In a way that is the essential toxin of the lolbertarian view of the world. Ultimately, like many US corporations, they have a notion of "efficiency" that is as communally inefficient as possible by offloading the costs of that complex balancing act a community can carry by its culture. Instead, individuals are forced to pay that hidden cost, and collectively there's now massive inefficiency as each individual must put forth work of some kind to filter their lives where once common decency rendered it effortless.
In a way, there's an economy of scale to communities and administration. All the jannies are doing by not enforcing any rules is ultimately ensuring anyone of value goes elsewhere, unless they want to fuck with the nutcases for fun. Because what happens once you do filter out the noise?
>146 threads hidden
Hm. Yeah. At that point the board might as well have 0 posts.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:00:30 UTC No. 16081289
>>16081256
>It's supposed to be a science board and it's mostly about global warming denial, antivaxx bullshit and other schizophrenia.
I unironically doubt that any real /pol/ack is wasting his time posting this stuff. I deny global warming and never took the vaxx. I do want to see a thread on the vax stuff and a thread on global warming where we can discuss not just muh nanoparticles quantum dots altering dna or nuhuh pollution no exist. A real /pol/ opinion would be that global warming measures are meant to make the cost of living higher to slowly destroy the middle class and turn society into a two tier system of the upper classes enjoying the luxuries that were meant for the middle classes and the lower classes having to subsist off of "plant based protein", bugs, and wheat (like slave classes were relegated to in the ancient past). Or that vaxxing young strong people against what basically amounts to a slightly worse flu is a form of governmental shaming like the communists in China do where they force people to admit to crimes they didn't commit by torturing them until they broke.
There's not supposed to be 8 threads on muh vaxx and multiple threads on muh global warming is muh hoax.
It's made by bots. I don't believe most /pol/acks are this dumb that they don't know they're only making their arguments seem like spam. You know who profits off of making shit tier bait /pol/ arguments? The government and activist groups who want to destroy any sense of discussion.
bodhi at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:02:46 UTC No. 16081293
>>16080647
Or perhaps they are "counter-agenda" agenda posting and those topics were the agenda posts from the regime narrative spinners. Ever think of that?
bodhi at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:05:41 UTC No. 16081297
>>16080707
you shed, bitch
bodhi at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:13:14 UTC No. 16081310
>>16081096
>You can't actually distinguish bots or payed posters.
The morons on this board that call everyone "schizo" -it is actually mainly just one person with Narcissistic Personality Disorder doing it who is too stupid to actually contribute anything to any threads so just tries stir drama and chaos, as NPD's do but that is besides the point- also called me schizo for years for saying the bots and shills were even here. The people that call everyone schizo are either shills, low IQ idiots who can't understand complex topics/new ideas they werent spoonfed some pop sci source or actual schizos themselves projecting. You cant have a conversation about specialized knowledge topics without the mass of morons who post here shitting up the thread with their idiocy. This is a pop sci midwit forum not a place where actual science is discussed with like minded high IQ individuals
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:16:25 UTC No. 16081313
>>16081310
To be fair, whether or not someone is a schizo has nothing to do with being "coincidentally" correct. It's all about epistemic justification. If your justification is insane, lacking coherence, you're a schizo.
A stopped clock being right twice a day isn't evidence that it's functioning correctly.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:19:38 UTC No. 16081317
>>16081146
I think all of the real posters here, who for some ungodly reason do hang out on the web for math and science, pretty much agree on what the problem is. Obviously anti-science bullshit doesn't belong on a science board.
The crazy thing is you could still have many of those discussions. All you'd do is require people actually engage with the discussed material instead of going "la la la muh conspiracy nuh uh", which should obviously get you a ban for trolling. Even that rule on its own would improve matters massively.