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Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:47:06 UTC No. 16081031
How do you have ensure reliability and power quality in power systems that are almost entirely run on renewables?
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 11:56:34 UTC No. 16081038
>>16081031
Petroleum-based backup power.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 12:30:59 UTC No. 16081074
>>16081031
You don't mostly. You have something providing baseload that can scale up or down quickly depending on how much renewable energy there currently is in the grid. Which I think is part of the VPP idea.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 12:36:13 UTC No. 16081082
>>16081031
you burn coal of course
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 12:37:36 UTC No. 16081084
>>16081031
>renewables are unstable
im from venezuela, we had blackouts in a city next to an oil-fired power plant next to an oil field
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 12:38:41 UTC No. 16081085
>>16081074
Or just make baseload demand like data centres more flexible and fast ramping
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 12:39:59 UTC No. 16081087
>>16081084
Well yeah, but that's a Venezuela problem, not a petroleum based power-grid problem.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 12:51:22 UTC No. 16081101
>>16081031
Your mistake is assuming climate policies have scientific grounding.
They don't.
It's all political.
USA pushing electric cars to outcompete European and Japanese car manufacturers.
Germany banning nuclear power, pushing windmills and natural gas, later (after NS and NS2 were blown up) heat pumps to economically dominate EU.
Chinese pushing everything as it makes it easier for them to gain global domination against energy-starved West.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:12:29 UTC No. 16081230
>>16081031
My power has never failed and most of it's renewable. I suggest moving out of hindustan or where ever you live if this is a problem you encounter.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:21:49 UTC No. 16081242
>>16081031
Power transmission. The wind is always blowing and the sun is always shining, somewhere. A well operated supergrid minimizes the amount of energy storage that you need.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:22:56 UTC No. 16081245
>>16081087
Tell that to Texas. An inch of snow completely fucks their grid.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:48:49 UTC No. 16081277
>>16081245
>Get a 100-year storm
>Some poor texans freeze because they've never had to drive their trucks in the snow or use a blanket
>solarwouldhavepreventedthis.jpg
Just eradicate all power grids and make everyone use a battery system, problem 'solved'
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:57:02 UTC No. 16081284
>>16081031
China is building more solar farms and eolic parks than any other country...
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:59:45 UTC No. 16081288
>>16081031
>chinese nukes
I don't think anyone trusts chinese nuclear engineering they probably stick to coal
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 15:18:01 UTC No. 16081315
> VPPs are networks of small energy-producing or storage devices, like solar panels and batteries, that are pooled together to serve the electricity grid. With their participants' approval, their energy can be tapped by utilities during times of high demand, or can be reserved for later use.
Sounds pretty gay ngl
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:53:57 UTC No. 16082083
>>16081085
Fast ramping is also dependent on mechanical stuff
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:55:03 UTC No. 16082084
>>16081084
>im from venezuela
Lmao pana, oil is not the problem there.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:57:50 UTC No. 16082088
>>16081277
>solar would have fixed this
The funny thing is it wouldn't because blizzard fucks up transmission and mb lines either way when they are not designed for snowy areas.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:59:49 UTC No. 16082094
>>16082088
He's saying they wouldn't need transmission lines if they had rooftop solar and battery backups.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:59:50 UTC No. 16082095
>>16081284
China is building more of everything than any other country. They are still heavily reliant on oil and coil.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:01:22 UTC No. 16082097
>>16082095
Less reliant every year. By their accounting they've transitioned to more than 50% green energy
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:16:37 UTC No. 16082125
Well, for 600k I am going to tell you the secret.
Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 23:17:48 UTC No. 16082128
>>16082097
>By their accounting
Well I'm sold.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 00:23:28 UTC No. 16082221
>>16082128
They include nuclear in that figure and it might just be for their electricity production. Investigate the claim for yourself.
https://english.www.gov.cn/news/202
https://www.ft.com/content/2233f1de
https://www.reuters.com/business/en
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 18:13:44 UTC No. 16083276
>>16082084
i know, its an everything problem