last gnostic at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 12:29:36 UTC No. 16081072

>>16081061
how can you assume that space-time is fundamental when even reality is subjective, i.e. mental? what I am saying now may be philosophical, not scientific, but even the majority of philosophers say that reality is subjective and mental. you should read gnostic texts.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 12:43:07 UTC No. 16081090

>>16081061
Spacetime is just a math model to calculate influence without having to bring quantum dynamics into play, but you are correct in your assumption that reality is filled with unseen matter which is also the driving force behind all the forces, that's what quantum mechanics is trying to figure out right now, but the problem is that, for things so small in scale, the current human method of problem solving will never cut it, the forces at play on the smallest levels might as well be literally magic

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 12:51:26 UTC No. 16081102

>>16081072
>>Reality is sooobjective...
The 21st century sissy idealogues need to stop fapping to this shit. Universe runs on the absolute principles of the God. If the reality was actually that subjective, we wouldn't have constants like pi, e, the golden ratio,etc

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 12:57:33 UTC No. 16081116

>>16081090
>That reality is filled with unseen matter which is also the driving force behind all the forces.
Yes, that's what I meant, actually. I mean, there are many things that we can perceive with our human mind, and we can explain their working principles with abstract concepts. The nature of matter, what atoms are, and for a while they were considered to be the smallest building blocks of the universe. Then we discovered subatomic particles and we learned that atoms are not the smallest building blocks of the universe, but everything we discovered and everything we are working on are entities manifested from quantum fluctuations. So what you call 'unseen matter' here is nothing but the unmanifested, chaotic and formless foundation of the universe.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:12:15 UTC No. 16081141

>>16081102
We can prove that reality is not subjective. There are millions of people who think that the Earth is flat, that it is surrounded by glacial walls, that the Moon and the Sun are not millions of kilometers away from us and millions of times bigger than we think they are, but that they are close to us and smaller in size. The fact that millions of people think this way does not change the reality, because we use our knowledge of mathematics and physics to prove that it is not what they think. So there is only one truth and there are abstract tools, like math, that help us to get to that truth.

The 21st century populist ideas and the ideas of the Sophists who lived in Ancient Greece completely coincide. People who constantly repeat such statements are nothing but charlatans.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:29:19 UTC No. 16081159

>>16081141
You cant even prove you arent a delusion in my head. And yet, if we give you that for amusement, i am supposed to somehow believe that your literal government sponsored eeucation center(brainwashing101) told you anything about reality? Lmao.

🗑️ Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:35:55 UTC No. 16081165

>>16081159
Go back to your 3rd grade science class and relearn that science should be testified and falsified to be called science quitter

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:38:45 UTC No. 16081172

>>16081159
Go back to your 3rd grade science class and relearn falsifiable principle and testable principle before you hop into the discussion quitter
To quote, “your saying is not even wrong”

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:40:57 UTC No. 16081177

>>16081061
Spacetime is bullshit.
Speed of light - or more precisely speed of electromagnetic waves propagation - isn't constant in space - it likely depends on, let's call it, "gravitational density" at given position in the field.
Time is affected because no matter how you look at it, in the end we measure time using electromagnetic waves - speed of light is affected - time is affected.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:43:03 UTC No. 16081183

>>16081116
These "quantum fluctuations" are just a placeholder name for some undescribed fundamental matter, which in turn itself is probably made from something and so on, it's just easier to do arithmetic if you treat actions/reactions as numeral values without having to put too much guesswork into what exactly you are looking at.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:47:14 UTC No. 16081192

>>16081177
When you say speed of light, you are saying speed of electromagnetic wave in vacuum. And universe is not a vacuum, at least not perfectly ideal.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:59:00 UTC No. 16081215

>>16081177
1. What you are referring to as time is subjective information perception, true time doesn't exist
2. The speed of light is not the limit of information propagation, but for us to go further than that requires another billion years of evolution

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 13:59:26 UTC No. 16081218

>>16081183
>PROOOOOOOF?
>THE UNIVERSE IS MADE OF LE NOOOTHING
>SPACE BETWEEN ATOMS SEEM EMPTY, THEREFORE SPACE IS EMPTY OK CHUD?
>REALITY IS LE SOOOBJECTIVE

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:00:55 UTC No. 16081220

>>16081218
Wrong thread/post, anon

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:04:00 UTC No. 16081226

>>16081072
> reality is subjective and mental
Only the hallucination we experience to give meaning to the information from the real world collected by our senses. The raw data is not subjective at all.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 14:17:51 UTC No. 16081232

>>16081141
You're literally rephrasing what I've just said. Also no the 21st and 20th century philosophy is bleak delusional and does not coincide with the based ancient greek philosophy. But i have to agree these iq obsessed scientioid coomers would say anything to present their idea of thier depressed and delusional ideas of reality using quantum nut theory and string theory lore none of which has real applications. While most scientists and before Einstein like Newton, Maxwell, Reimann, Mendel etc who literally made the foundation of modern science were based christ lovers and had their principles.

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 16:27:17 UTC No. 16081408

>>16081061
See pic rel OP

What we refer to as "space" is literally just an aftereffect of anti-space, or the Ether

We could draw tons of different analogies here, but the hourglass is the most succinct and perfect one (right after the ocean one)

If you're looking for a kind of unifying force, look no further than EM. Fits the bill in all the aspects that matter, and demonstrably so.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 08:56:55 UTC No. 16082717

>>16081061
Shut the fuck up stupid goy the science is settled

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 09:00:57 UTC No. 16082723

Spacetime is false. Relativity is false.

The michelson-morley experiment was a psyop. Aether theory is completely true.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 09:47:41 UTC No. 16082793

>>16081061
"Space-Time" is not physical/material. Space is just something that we use to measure the distance between 2 or more objects. It is arbitrary and invariant, meaning we can use whatever coordinates we want, and that no frame is preferred for measuring the distance, thus physically it is meaningless. Time is something we use to measure "distance" between 2 events and is also physically meaningless. So when people say Space-Time has contracted, dilated or curved. What they mean is that the distance between 2 or more objects has contracted, dilated or curved and the distance between 2 events has contracted, dilated or curved. Its the "curved" part of Einsteins general relativity that gives me the troubles, as mathematically it makes sense but how would such a thing translate into the real world effect of gravity? According to Einstein the relation is [math]R_{ab}=\kappa(T_{ab}-\frac{1}{2}Tg_{ab})[/math], Which can be thought of as saying the change in the volume between 2 paths in "Space-Time" is equal to the density of energy in "Space-Time" minus some boundary condition that makes sure the derivative of the left side is zero. The thing is, is that the left hand side is a purely mathematical expression devoid of any physical meaning. In classical physics we use the concept of potential and force to get what we want, which have physical meanings, but the concept of Space-Time? Not so much. Personally I'm much more inclined to believe that gravity is the result of some sort of pressure by simply saying that the gravitational force (F(g)) is proportional to the pressure force on the surface area of a sphere F(g) ∝ F/(4πr^2) which gives you an inverse square just like Newtons law.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:02:55 UTC No. 16082813

>>16082793
>Personally I'm much more inclined to believe that gravity is the result of some sort of pressure by simply saying that the gravitational force (F(g)) is proportional to the pressure force on the surface area of a sphere F(g) ∝ F/(4πr^2) which gives you an inverse square just like Newtons law.

https://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0205035

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:18:32 UTC No. 16082819

>hay guise!!! I'm super smart, I know everything about the entire universe!!!!
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 11:30:43 UTC No. 16082898

>>16081061
Go on, write an equation

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 06:57:41 UTC No. 16084350

>>16081141
>There are millions of people who think that the Earth is flat, that it is surrounded by glacial walls, that the Moon and the Sun are not millions of kilometers away from us and milli
oh bullshit this and the whole "most rural Americans think the world was created 7000 years ago and all animals come from Noah's Ark" and all that shit is just jewish shit talk and attempts to discredit the goyim

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 11:50:15 UTC No. 16084677

>>16081061

Perfect geometry is WHD x distance x time x gravity
6D for normal particles.

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 13:07:22 UTC No. 16084728

>>16081061
Look at this https://youtu.be/GL77oOnrPzY?si=UdqDzkbjAkwY-2wL

Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 13:53:03 UTC No. 16084771

3-space can contain oceans by itself
time is a fake dimension put to the equations