Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:02:21 UTC No. 16082013

>>16081995
if your first statement is true then the second is true by definition

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:04:16 UTC No. 16082016

>>16081995
it's pulsing, it has a heartbeat

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:15:58 UTC No. 16082031

>>16082013
Sure, but why not start at 0? How was the high energy state created?

Your answer is just a spin on the anthropic principle.

Barkon at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:28:50 UTC No. 16082041

Anonymous at Sat, 16 Mar 2024 22:39:34 UTC No. 16082057

>>16082013
Which came first: high energy state or low energy state?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 04:29:32 UTC No. 16082521

>>16081995
God

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 04:37:48 UTC No. 16082532

>>16082521
how is God different from "the universe"? it pretty much matches is for a bunch of stuff. we and everything else is literally made out of this "primordial energy" which nobody seems to be able to create. always existed and will exist forever and all that

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 05:32:51 UTC No. 16082570

>>16082057
Neither

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 11:28:16 UTC No. 16082893

>>16082041
That dog looks fucking shit

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 16:30:35 UTC No. 16083167

>>16081995
>If the universe always goes to a lower energy state, ho
it does not, read about "conservation of energy"

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 17:14:29 UTC No. 16083222

>>16081995
The universe doesn't evolve to a lower energy state: The net energy of the universe is effectively zero. What it does is evolve from a low entropy state to a high entropy state.

The fluctuation theorem addendum to the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics allows for regions within a system to spontaneously transition to lower entropy states on length and time scales which are small compared to the characteristic length and time scales of the system.

If you have infinite space and time, then even the probability of a fluctuation in entropy large enough to fuel the dynamics of a 'universe' goes to 1.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 17:29:45 UTC No. 16083239

>>16082532
If the definition of god is: “that which has always existed and always will exist”, then yeah, it is kind of like WE ourselves (the stuff we are made of) are god. Personally, I think that’s kinda neat.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 17:33:44 UTC No. 16083244

>>16083222
So the low entropy big bang could’ve been a local entropy decrease that took place after an insane amount of time?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 17:49:10 UTC No. 16083255

>>16083244
Precisely. The idea is that there would be similar smaller fluctuations happening all over the infinite, it's just that the vast majority don't produce large enough local reductions in entropy to result in anything interesting happening like separation of field forces, formation of different types of matter, etc.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 18:06:39 UTC No. 16083267

>>16083255
sounds like a bunch of hogwash, you will never have evidence for these crazy ideas

Barkon at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 18:08:49 UTC No. 16083269

>>16083244
There's no such thing as entropy, entropy is a field of magic in Dragon's Age that wills the forces of disease and nature into magical attacks. Stop it.

Kys now

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 18:11:22 UTC No. 16083273

>>16083239
>If the definition of god is: “that which has always existed and always will exist”,
thats not the definition of god

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:00:39 UTC No. 16083321

>>16081995
It didn't Big bang is bullshit. The origin of all things is found in the primordial cold. The beginning is something closer to the bose-einstein condensate. Entropy is mythology.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:10:05 UTC No. 16083342

>>16081995
lowER retard, the universe has to start at some energy one way or another

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:13:26 UTC No. 16083345

>>16083342
Going from nothing to an extremely dense state is a huge entropy drop though, how is such a happening possible?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:42:50 UTC No. 16083403

>>16083345
>Going from nothing

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:46:01 UTC No. 16083409

>>16083345
>nothing
did you learn astrophysics from Rick and Morty?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:03:43 UTC No. 16083439

>>16083403
>>16083409
>Believes the big bang was the start of everything
Popsci redditors from 2010. Literally 0 physicists believe the big bang popped in from nothing

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:03:49 UTC No. 16083442

>>16083273
Okay. Then define god. I defy you.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:07:37 UTC No. 16083451

>>16083239
>If the definition of god is:
no human can define who or what God is, for you.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:09:32 UTC No. 16083457

>>16083442
Creator of the universe, omniscient and all-powerful, etc. Everyone know this, why do you want to play dumb?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:10:52 UTC No. 16083463

>>16083457
Brahma? Cool

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:17:18 UTC No. 16083485

>>16083463
I dont know who Brahma is, are you a pajeet? I figure hes some kind of pajeet deity.
I was just using the definition for Yahweh, which is the default god in western culture and what everyone thinks about when one thinks about god. Pajeet culture is polytheist and they have many gods, obviously they all did not create the universe. Is Brahma supposed to be the top god among them? Dont care, nobody cares about your reddit shit

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:18:04 UTC No. 16083486

>>16083439
8/10, you got me

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:33:44 UTC No. 16083510

>Decent thread for a couple of posts
>Christtranny comes in and starts talking about muh kike on a stick when the topic is cosmology
You know there is a board for religion, right?

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 21:01:24 UTC No. 16083571

>>16083485
Fuck off to /his/ with your faggot ass theology, fucking spastic

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 21:38:39 UTC No. 16083622

>>16083571
Fuck you nigger bitch nobody asked you to come here. Fuck off

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 21:40:20 UTC No. 16083624

>>16081995
יהוה

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 22:07:25 UTC No. 16083645

>>16083622
Why are you even on /sci/? You hate science for dunking on your kike deity but believe your crap will gain legitimacy by being associated with science? Just fuck off to your board, retard.

Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 22:25:24 UTC No. 16083679

>>16081995
It is very possible that the universe as we know it is just a higher density bubble, a random fluctuation upwards (towards higher orderedness), embedded in some supra-universe where broadly exactly the same rules apply, including the one you mentioned.