๐งต PROOF PI IS RATIONAL
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 16:36:42 UTC No. 16083169
PROOF PI IS RATIONAL
It is well known that pi has an infinite amount of digits so therefore every possible sequence of digits exists in the digits of pi. Therefore the sequence "xxxx..." infinite times exists in pi which means pi is some digits then x repeating. X could be 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, whichever infinite sequence of the same digit comes first. This also means that there is a last digit of pi. As a programmer I don't usually mess around with mathematical concepts but you guys can't seem to make up your minds on whether or not pi is irrational so I thought I'd give my two cents. Also, if discovering this wins me one of your dumb prizes I don't care, you guys can claim it for yourself, trust me, I don't need the money.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 16:41:43 UTC No. 16083174
>>16083169
you need the meds
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 16:44:16 UTC No. 16083180
>>16083169
>infinite amount of digits so therefore every possible sequence of digits exists in the digits of pi.
Just because a number is irrational doesn't mean it contains every possible finite sequence of digits. Consider for example the irrational number 0.01001000100001000001...
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 16:48:03 UTC No. 16083184
>>16083180
This is circular reasoning, the number 0.010010001000010000001... is clearly rational because eventually there will be an infinite amount of 0s
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 17:22:26 UTC No. 16083227
>>16083169
>has an infinite amount of digits so therefore every possible sequence of digits exists in the digits
Fallacious reasoning. The decimal form of one third has an infinite number of digits, yet all of them are 3 and you obviously cannot find every possible sequence of digits in it.
>but you can with pi
I'm not disputing that. I'm refuting the part I quoted.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 17:43:42 UTC No. 16083250
>>16083227
Yeah and its rational
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:21:00 UTC No. 16083354
>>16083169
>>16083180
Only the digits you compute will ever be real. Beyond that is just pure fantasy.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:25:14 UTC No. 16083366
>>16083169
Anon, come on, it's so simple, pi is irrational because it's an attempt to quantify a qualitative property of reality which has no definitive boundary.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 19:28:52 UTC No. 16083374
>>16083366
The number is never ending but reality becomes discrete when you zoom in enough.
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:12:34 UTC No. 16083469
>>16083374
yeah, no
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:15:20 UTC No. 16083480
>>16083469
there's mathematical evidence for that tho. what are you basing your claims on?
Anonymous at Sun, 17 Mar 2024 20:25:09 UTC No. 16083499
>>16083480
>there's mathematical evidence for that tho
There's mathematical evidence that our mathematical models don't work at that scale because we're unable to quantify the properties of reality, ergo you have the opposite of evidence, all you've proven is that you have no data about these scales and you aren't able to know anything what's happening on that level, because math is just representing states of a system as numbers, but since you are unable to observe the system at that scale you can't assign any numbers to it
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 00:03:25 UTC No. 16083810
>>16083169
Computation is symmetrical
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 00:10:20 UTC No. 16083819
>>16083499
>evidence that our mathematical models don't work at that scale
I think that's what the mathematical evidence implies, that shit should work if the smallest shit is planck scale. Planck postulate
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 00:26:52 UTC No. 16083848
>>16083169
>every possible sequence of digits exists in the digits of pi
Pi has not been proven to be normal. And that only deals with finite sequences anyway.
>Therefore the sequence "xxxx..." infinite times exists in pi which means pi is some digits then x repeating. X could be 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, whichever infinite sequence of the same digit comes first.
Even if pi were normal, if X in your example is 0, that means an infinite sequence of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9 does not exist, contradicting your premise that every (or any) infinite sequence exists.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 00:28:28 UTC No. 16083855
>>16083184
Liouvilles constant contains even longer sequence of zeros. By your reasoning, it should be rational too?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lio
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 01:09:12 UTC No. 16083896
>>16083169
LMAO. You are retarded AF.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 01:11:49 UTC No. 16083898
>>16083819
>that shit should work
I don't think you understand what mathematics is and how it works
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 01:21:35 UTC No. 16083906
>>16083169
> As a programmer I don't usually mess around with mathematical concepts
You don't even know how to code you stupid piece of shit.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 01:22:09 UTC No. 16083909
>>16083898
his math which checked out for some shit, also predicts spacetime is quantized. same as Einstein's work predicted shit which was eventually confirmed. if anything it's strong evidence, especially since your "no it isn't" means absolutely nothing in comparison.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 01:31:08 UTC No. 16083921
>>16083909
Are you fucking retarded??
>"he [Planck] considered quantization as being purely a mathematical trick, raher than (as is now known) a fundamental change in the understanding of the world"
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 01:34:29 UTC No. 16083923
>>16083921
you seem to be, for missing the "rather than as is now known". his math has been fucking proven, it's not a trick. we don't have proof that spacetime is quantized, but we have mathematical evidence, from same math which has been proven with other stuff.
๐๏ธ Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 01:36:28 UTC No. 16083928
>>16083354
There is a base where ฯ is 2.2222222222222...., an infinite sequence of twos.
In base 10 the digits ...dcba represent this number:
a + 10 * ( b + 10 * (c + 10 * (d + ...)))
In that base the digits ...dcba represent this other number:
a + (1/3) * ( b + (2/5) * ( c + (3/7) * (d + ...)))
This algorithm converts ฯ from that infinite sequence of twos into an integer base, implemented using a generator of decimals in base one billion:
https://godbolt.org/z/MzKvxnMKc
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 01:39:04 UTC No. 16083936
>>16083169
(22/7)/sqrt(e^3)
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 01:47:37 UTC No. 16083955
>>16083923
>you seem to be, for missing the "rather than as is now known"
You seem to be, for you are missing the part where the guy who came up with the math thought that quantization was a consequence of higher intelligence making shit up and he would be correct in his assessment
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 03:33:59 UTC No. 16084122
>>16083169
I proved PI is national
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 04:54:43 UTC No. 16084190
>>16083169
>As a programmer
ah, the glue eaters of mathematics
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 04:56:32 UTC No. 16084192
>>16083819
>planck scale
ah, the sub-wit's crack-cocaine
DoctorGreen !DRgReeNusk at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 05:23:32 UTC No. 16084228
>>16083169
>has an infinite amount of digits
Wrong. It has less digits than the total entropy posibilities of the cosmos. I chaught you violating the laws of thermodynamics, fool
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 05:55:52 UTC No. 16084262
>>16084190
If you didn't realize yet OP is a troll.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 06:23:17 UTC No. 16084295
>>16084262
oh, you are right, sorry
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 06:57:24 UTC No. 16084348
>>16083184
>is clearly rational
Then what two numbers form the ratio that results in that value?
You do know that is what rational means, right?
elipo at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 11:00:36 UTC No. 16084640
>>16083169
>Therefore the sequence "xxxx..." infinite times exists in pi which means pi is some digits then x repeating.
NO, you fucking retard, an infinity of numbers on a single dimension cannot be contained by an infinity of numbers in a single dimension too.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 11:05:38 UTC No. 16084645
>>16084640
There is no such thing as an "infinity of x" since infinity is the uppermost upper limit rather than a specific number, so x tends toward infinity but can never be infinity.
Anonymous at Mon, 18 Mar 2024 14:12:26 UTC No. 16084786
pi is irrational because perfect circles don't exist in nature
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Mar 2024 05:55:33 UTC No. 16086059
>>16084786
No, it has nothing to do with nature, its that diagonals and curved diagonals can't be represented by square units.
Anonymous at Tue, 19 Mar 2024 09:36:29 UTC No. 16086214
>>16083174
fixing this is beyond the capabilities of contemporary medical science.